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yoda57us
02-19-2010, 09:47 AM
is a reach around a hand-job or something? lol im not familiar with that term.
Why yes, yes it is....
He spent that amount, or perhaps more I guess over a month or so, visiting maybe every two weeks. He finally worked out I wasn't going to suck his dick.
I see this all the time. I guess there are two approaches to trying to get your dick sucked in a strip club. The first is to just wait until an extras girl offers, the second seems to be spending a ton of money on a really hot woman (who is never going to do it) hoping that she will make you an offer for ITC or OTC extras.
My morals aside it didn't make economic sense to suck his dick. He paid me between $1-$2k ITC to dance for him and yet he offered $1k to suck his dick.
And this is why I don't waste time trying to get sex from strippers! If sex is all you want the ROI from a good escort is much better.
SteveSmith
02-19-2010, 10:35 AM
My presence in the club is a couple of times a week, an hour or two at most each time. My friends don't flaunt their assets in front of me, I don't ogle them, and I suggest they cover up when something becomes obvious and, I notice it, and it seems inappropriate.
Bem, I don't get why when you and Phil-W become "friends" with the dancers, the both of you won't look at the dancer being naked, and they don't want you to see them naked, and the dances stop.
You can be friends with women and still be physical: FWB or fuck buddies.
yoda57us
02-19-2010, 10:40 AM
Bem, I don't get why when you and Phil-W become "friends" with the dancers, the both of you won't look at the dancer being naked, and they don't want you to see them naked, and the dances stop.
You can be friends with women and still be physical: FWB or fuck buddies.
You most certainly can, but in the strip club environment the physical part, and even the looking part, involves spending money...
bem401
02-20-2010, 09:53 AM
That's BS BEM. The post is here in black and white.
I know absolutely nothing about KS. All I know is that you are generally required to pay women for any attention they give you because you're a veteran of the club, spa, and escort circuits by your own admission.
By the way, it's not "OTC" if the woman involved isn't a dancer.
Here's a newsflash for you Yoda: this is a SC forum. The women here for the most part are, were, or are considering being strippers. To me, OTC only identifies where something happens. I read nothing more into it than that. You apparently do. I live my life 165 hours a week OTC.
bem401
02-20-2010, 10:42 AM
Bem, I don't get why when you and Phil-W become "friends" with the dancers, the both of you won't look at the dancer being naked, and they don't want you to see them naked, and the dances stop.
You can be friends with women and still be physical: FWB or fuck buddies.
Because they're friends first and dancers second at that point and I interact with many of them away from the club. I try not to treat them any differently in the club than I do away from the club. Do you sneak peeks at your aquaintances in RL? How would that go over if you got caught?
Would I want to be physical with them? Some yes, some not particularly. The reason I've become friends with some of them isn't because they make me horny.
It just seems to easier not to view them as strippers when you're friends. Hell, when I once became friends with my ATF adult actress, I threw out every tape or dvd of her work I had because it wasn't something I'd be comfortable watching any longer. I guess I view interacting with my friends in the club as dancers the same way.
bem401
02-20-2010, 10:53 AM
You most certainly can, but in the strip club environment the physical part, and even the looking part, involves spending money...
But neither Phil nor I are there are there to ogle or grope in the first place, so what's your point?
Dirty Ernie
02-20-2010, 11:22 AM
Because they're friends first and dancers second at that point and I interact with many of them away from the club. I try not to treat them any differently in the club than I do away from the club. Do you sneak peeks at your aquaintances in RL? How would that go over if you got caught?
Would I want to be physical with them? Some yes, some not particularly. The reason I've become friends with some of them isn't because they make me horny.
It just seems to easier not to view them as strippers when you're friends. Hell, when I once became friends with my ATF adult actress, I threw out every tape or dvd of her work I had because it wasn't something I'd be comfortable watching any longer. I guess I view interacting with my friends in the club as dancers the same way.
Oy Vey!
If you're no longer comfortable ogling your "friends" when they are naked, why the fuck do you insist hanging out at their work where their job requires them to be so?
Oh, that's right-the gossip. You're a hen. Some guys place status on banging strippers, you place it on sharing secrets like schoolgirls.
Geez, I think you're nearly as deluded as most any RIL or PL.
I thought WestCoast was way out of line in that other thread, but you seem to like passing out bullets.
KS_Stevia
02-20-2010, 12:13 PM
But neither Phil nor I are there are there to ogle or grope in the first place, so what's your point?
It doesn't make you better than the ones who are there to do so as long as those guys are paying. You are still looked at as a cretin because you spend hours a week hanging out in the SC, not spending money on the dancers. Until you completely stop living this mythical life of a pseudo-hero, that's not going to change.
And I'll let yoda defend himself against your other flame. Obviously you are trolling for a reaction, and assuming that no women would otherwise speak to a person who occasionally patronizes sex workers is just stupid. Have you ever even had a real girlfriend?
bem401
02-20-2010, 02:41 PM
It doesn't make you better than the ones who are there to do so as long as those guys are paying. You are still looked at as a cretin because you spend hours a week hanging out in the SC, not spending money on the dancers. Until you completely stop living this mythical life of a pseudo-hero, that's not going to change.
Never said it made me better than anyone and I spend just an hour or 2 a week there at the invitations of those I'm friendly with. If they agreed with you even a little bit, I'd either be ignored or told to get lost.
yoda57us
02-20-2010, 02:59 PM
But neither Phil nor I are there are there to ogle or grope in the first place, so what's your point?
LOL, Bem, why are you assuming that I was talking about you or Phil. I merely pointed out to the OP that, in the play 4 pay arena you have to pay before you can play...
bem401
02-20-2010, 02:59 PM
Oy Vey!
If you're no longer comfortable ogling your "friends" when they are naked, why the fuck do you insist hanging out at their work where their job requires them to be so?
Oh, that's right-the gossip. You're a hen. Some guys place status on banging strippers, you place it on sharing secrets like schoolgirls.
Geez, I think you're nearly as deluded as most any RIL or PL.
I thought WestCoast was way out of line in that other thread, but you seem to like passing out bullets.
I wouldn't say I hang out there very much, a couple hours a week. Given the layout of the club, its not too hard to avoid ogling them. Sharing secrets? That's what you call it when friends talk to each other? If you ever actually became legitimate friends in a non-SC way with a girl or two at the club, maybe you get where I'm coming from.
yoda57us
02-20-2010, 03:13 PM
I know absolutely nothing about KS. All I know is that you are generally required to pay women for any attention they give you because you're a veteran of the club, spa, and escort circuits by your own admission.
You have never been more right BEM. You know absolutely nothing.
Here's a newsflash for you Yoda: this is a SC forum. The women here for the most part are, were, or are considering being strippers. To me, OTC only identifies where something happens. I read nothing more into it than that. You apparently do. I live my life 165 hours a week OTC.
News falsh for you BEM, OTC stands for OUTSIDE THE CLUB. Your back- pedaling here is, as usual, absolutely hysterical. Lots of conversation goes on here on Stripperweb that has to do with real world endeavors. If you were not so desperate to try and find some way to take a shot at me you would not have chosen to make such a stupid and groundless comment in the first place...and yet you did. You need to get over this obsession you have with how much time I spend in strip clubs BEM. I actually haven't been in one at all so far in 2010. It's one thing to comment on my posts, quite another to assume that you actually know anything about me other than the opinions I post here. We are both here on a strip club board. What is it about my posts that would indicate that I spend any more time inside a strip club than you do? Based on your posts, you actually spend more time in clubs than I do even if you don't spend any money. So what we come back to once again is your continued passive aggressive insistence that, as a non spender, you are some how a better person than the rest of us lowly customers.
Here's something else for you to ponder BEM. All of your "friends" are strippers. Not retired strippers but actual current strippers. Have I ever even once accused you of paying them for their time or company outside of the club? Have I ever even alluded to it? The answer, on both counts, is no. So again, who exactly is making this personal?
sxcbbw
02-20-2010, 03:21 PM
I propose a new thread, in blue, for endless posturing.
KS_Stevia
02-20-2010, 03:23 PM
I heard a rumor that yoda had to pay his female doctor for a physical. He also had to pay for his oil change at a Jiffy Lube where a woman was working the desk. He handed her the cash, so technically he had to pay, right? He also had to pay this chick to, ummmm, bring him his dinner at Chilis one night. OMFG!!!!
But Bem, you get all the stuff for free, right, 'cause a few bored strippers make idle conversation with you on occasion? ::)
bem401
02-20-2010, 03:23 PM
LOL, Bem, why are you assuming that I was talking about you or Phil. I merely pointed out to the OP that, in the play 4 pay arena you have to pay before you can play...
Ummm, because it was your response to a question directed at us.
yoda57us
02-20-2010, 04:30 PM
I propose a new thread, in blue, for endless posturing.
LOL, we already have plenty of those over there. I was thinking of just starting a BEM and yoda thread....
yoda57us
02-20-2010, 04:34 PM
Ummm, because it was your response to a question directed at us.
And? You play the same game all the time BEM with your "who, me? I said no such thing" responses.
Think whatever you like. Nothing in my post mentions your name or Phil's.
yoda57us
02-20-2010, 07:20 PM
I heard a rumor that yoda had to pay his female doctor for a physical. He also had to pay for his oil change at a Jiffy Lube where a woman was working the desk. He handed her the cash, so technically he had to pay, right? He also had to pay this chick to, ummmm, bring him his dinner at Chilis one night. OMFG!!!!
KS, have you been following me again?;)
Dirty Ernie
02-21-2010, 03:20 AM
Sharing secrets? That's what you call it when friends talk to each other? If you ever actually became legitimate friends in a non-SC way with a girl or two at the club, maybe you get where I'm coming from.
Much like Phil, I get the impression you believe somehow once your interaction with a stripper starts, the curtain is dropped simply because you're not paying her. The ATF retired 10 months ago and moved back to her home state. She drops me a text message every week or two despite my insistence she lose my number. We've met up in Hawaii over the holidays. She is one of the least complicated women I've ever known. I, however, recognize certain behaviors that preclude me from determining whether her actions are based on friendship or the culmination of experience while working as a stripper. It really doesn't matter to me, but you seem to place an inordinate amount of importance on an aspect of your "friendship" that you are, apparently, in no position to judge accurately.
I would guess if you stopped hanging out at the club, minimal as it may be, your "friendship" with the dancers within would end. You're merely a fixture, a constant element, but in your absence, one that is quickly forgotten or replaced.
Or you could just admit to being a cheap-ass voyeur, who has found a way to satisfy your fantasy without having to pay for it.
Hopper
02-21-2010, 07:16 AM
Burlesque is a completely different animals from being a stripper in a club, earning your money from lapdances. I know burlesque well, and its almost apples to oranges with stripping.
Where were you when I needed you?
Hopper
02-21-2010, 07:17 AM
:O Yeah, precisely why I don't call myself a stripper.
And you?
Hopper
02-21-2010, 07:19 AM
I understand burlesque and stripping are two different things
You were there.
jaizaine
02-21-2010, 07:36 AM
And this is why I don't waste time trying to get sex from strippers! If sex is all you want the ROI from a good escort is much better.
why do men do it then? i don't get it?
Melbourne must be one of the easiest cities to get sex. There are brothels everywhere and apparently u can get sex for about $120. The brothels are also really close by to the strip clubs. Is it coz that makes it too easy? They can walk in and just get sex. Maybe they want the thrill of the chase with a stripper?
I've asked a few customers this and they said prostitutes in the brothels are too unattractive. I dont think this is necessarily the answer. Yes strippers in general are probably more attractive than prostitutes who are getting 1/2 of $120 for FS but I think some men feel extra pathetic going into a brothel or something?
When this regular realised I wouldn't give him head he said he enjoyed every time he spent with me in the club and he got more out of it than I would ever know. He actually came in to see me last week and spent good money. I just don't get this industry sometimes LOL.
yoda57us
02-21-2010, 08:34 AM
why do men do it then? i don't get it?
Don't scratch your head too much trying to figure out why men act the way they do when it comes to sex. We are being controlled by our dicks most of the time so there is little logic involved.
One theory I hear from guys on other boards is that they would rather meet a girl in a club and try to get sex from her because they already know that she is hot. I find this fascinating since "hotness" doesn't guarantee a good time in the sack, especially with a woman who sells sex for a living. Some of the most beautiful escorts on TER have the most lackluster reviews and, speaking form experience, the two or three worst experience I have had with escorts have all been with very beautiful but vacuous women. Some women can bank in a strip club and some can't. We all know that looks are only part of the equation. Escorting is no different in that the majority of the experience, and the enjoyment of it, is mental. Unfortunately, when it comes to beautiful women it seems like many guys are wired with their eye sockets going directly to their penis and totally bypassing the brain...
Also, there is the stereotypical belief that a lot of guys hold which leads them to think that strippers are hookers. It's an uphill battle for some of these neanderthals...
When this regular realised I wouldn't give him head he said he enjoyed every time he spent with me in the club and he got more out of it than I would ever know. He actually came in to see me last week and spent good money. I just don't get this industry sometimes LOL.
I went where he went a long time ago and learned my lesson. It's a lot more fun going to a club without putting pressure on yourself to actually think you might get laid in there if you spend enough money...
Sometimes it's just a lot of fun to sit with a pretty, intelligent woman for a few hours.
jaizaine
02-21-2010, 09:05 AM
^^
I love that you used the term vacuous. My best friend is an exceptionally smart woman - a clinical psychologist and part time stripper and she uses that word all the time. I love it! ;D
I make a lot of money from men who think they will ultimately sleep with me. I seem to cultivate obsession LOL. It's a profitable game but such a mind fuck for me.
yoda57us
02-21-2010, 09:16 AM
^^
I love that you used the term vacuous. My best friend is an exceptionally smart woman - a clinical psychologist and part time stripper and she uses that word all the time. I love it! ;D
It's one of my favorites. It says so much more than just calling someone stupid.
It really describes someone who has just mentally checked-out of life...
I make a lot of money from men who think they will ultimately sleep with me. I seem to cultivate obsession LOL. It's a profitable game but such a mind fuck for me.
Well, that's a key hustle for a lot of dancers I know and there's really nothing wrong with that. You are not responsible for what goes on in a guy's head simply because you are naked and being nice to him. Guys who can't deal with the fantasy of enjoying a beautiful women in a controlled (and contrived) environment are their own worst enemy inside a strip club.
I'm not gonna lie, when a dancer is doing a really intimate and sexy LD for me I am certainly thinking about how nice it would be to have her in the sack. I just draw the line at offering her $300 to go back to my place...
Hopper
02-22-2010, 05:37 AM
What are your views of married men clubbing too much?
I've been happily married 15 years but from the first year of our marriage, I've been going to clubs. In time the frequency increased from once a month to two three times a week. On the one hand I feel guilty doing this behind my wife's back, but it's my only chance to see and touch young women. It's really exhilirating for me.
How much do you spend each time you go? How many LDs do you get each time? How long did it take to go from once per month to three times per week?
My fear would be that if my wife (I don't have one, but say I did) knew that I satisfied my longing for attractive women somewhere with other women, she would take it as a cue to stop trying herself and let it all go.
bem401
02-22-2010, 07:02 AM
Much like Phil, I get the impression you believe somehow once your interaction with a stripper starts, the curtain is dropped simply because you're not paying her.
It really doesn't matter to me, but you seem to place an inordinate amount of importance on an aspect of your "friendship" that you are, apparently, in no position to judge accurately.
Well Ernie, more of them pulled the plug on dances than I did, for the same reasons I did. I think I'll place more weight on what they say than what you or others here do.
I would guess if you stopped hanging out at the club, minimal as it may be, your "friendship" with the dancers within would end. You're merely a fixture, a constant element, but in your absence, one that is quickly forgotten or replaced.
Your first sentence calls my presence minimal, your second calls me a fixture. Nice consistency. I still don't get your point. But yes, if I demonstrated to them I had no interest in interacting with them going forward, I'm sure they'd accept that whether that involved me ending my visits or not. Similarly, I'd react the same way if they exhibited that to me.
Or you could just admit to being a cheap-ass voyeur, who has found a way to satisfy your fantasy without having to pay for it.
You're just demonstrating your mindset when it comes to visiting clubs, one I might have shared initially, but have since outgrown.
The handful of girls who seem to appreciate my presence presently (since I'm more or less there with their approval, if not at their invite) will not dance for me for money nor will I pay them for taking a break from their work to talk to me. They will sit with me between performances or PD's and leave me the minute they smell an opportunity to make some money. We all agree the less time they sit with me in the club the better. We do virtually nothing there we don't do away from the club on occasion. Why is that so hard to understand?
yoda57us
02-22-2010, 02:59 PM
My fear would be that if my wife (I don't have one, but say I did) knew that I satisfied my longing for attractive women somewhere with other women, she would take it as a cue to stop trying herself and let it all go.
LOL, that would be getting off easy. My ex would have simply cut my penis off in my sleep...
Jessie_tinydancer
02-23-2010, 08:49 AM
It's one of my favorites. It says so much more than just calling someone stupid.
It really describes someone who has just mentally checked-out of life...
Well, that's a key hustle for a lot of dancers I know and there's really nothing wrong with that. You are not responsible for what goes on in a guy's head simply because you are naked and being nice to him. Guys who can't deal with the fantasy of enjoying a beautiful women in a controlled (and contrived) environment are their own worst enemy inside a strip club.
I'm not gonna lie, when a dancer is doing a really intimate and sexy LD for me I am certainly thinking about how nice it would be to have her in the sack. I just draw the line at offering her $300 to go back to my place...
Thank god since any club I've worked at the hour rate was $200-$600 (depending on the club). I laugh my ass off when guys offer anything less than $1K... not that I'm going to take them up on it anyway, but geez at least make the offer interesting.
yoda57us
02-23-2010, 09:19 AM
Thank god since any club I've worked at the hour rate was $200-$600 (depending on the club). I laugh my ass off when guys offer anything less than $1K... not that I'm going to take them up on it anyway, but geez at least make the offer interesting.
LOL, I picked $300 because that's the going rate for an hour with a very good escort in my neck of the woods. Speaking strictly out of practicality, I would never pay a dancer more for sex than I pay an escort for sex simply because she is a dancer. By the same token, I totally understand why a dancer who makes good money wouldn't consider having sex with a guy for the same money that she makes teasing him inside the club.
Regardless of whether you are buying or selling, It's all about your personal comfort level...I have my own and I don't waste time trying to get a lady to go beyond her's.
thatguy6673
02-27-2010, 03:35 PM
Does it really matter if a dancer 'respects' the customer married or not?
Strip clubs are fantasy entertainment. Why would a dancer care if she morally/spiritually/intellectually respects a guy when her only interaction will likely be a a 5 minute convo followed by a 10 minute dance she gets paid for? why would a customer's personality really matter that much as long as they followed normal social conventions and were not grabby/jerks/blatantly disrespectful?
it is possible to be entertained by people who don't respect you. Nirvana openly disdained their more 'mainstream' fans (which I was at the time they broke), but I still liked their music. NWA/Wu-Tang would probably not want to hang out with a boring midwest middle class nerdy guy who followed all federal/state/local drug/gun regulations that had no street cred, but it doesn't make me not enjoy their rhymes and beats.
why would it be necessary to care if all actors/actresses in a play 'respected you as a person' or if you had a 'real outside the theater' friendship with them? what if I just want to go to a play, and I don't care about the performers' pet care/laundry tips/one night stands/ sick grandma?
I think it is more well adjusted to go the club, enjoy the beauty/charisma/personalities of the performers, then go home and get on with work/friends outside of a strip club. I think the 'white knights' that go the club (despite 'totally having real perfect platonic deep friendships outside da club'), and NOT PAY THE DANCERS ANYTHING should start a white knight club. here are the rules:
1. the white knights cannot ever think the dancers are hot or get a boner (since that would ruin the platonic friendship!)
2. since the dancers respect their friendship so much and get math tutoring and pet babysitting from the white knights, they could NEVER get paid for dances/time since that would 'ruin the perfect platonic friendship'
3. dancers would have to TORTURE their 'platonic friends' by dressing in sexy clothes, but they could be so relieved only their white knight friends who 400% respect them as platonic friends would be there to have tea party conversations about how great it is that pervos, married, and weird guys are not longer allowed to pay them for dances. there would be plenty of time for the dancers to tell their 'friends' what errends to run, what home improvement tasks to do, while the 'platonic friend' doesn't think about how hot the dancer is and decides whether the dancer should wear a burka outside the club.
why is it honorable or not effin stoopid to hang out with mickey mouse outside of disneyland, and interrogate him about if he thinks his customers are stupid since they 'go along' with him pretending t be mickey mouse at disneyland? just saying, don't see the difference
time to hit the club, pay gorgeous mysterious women with exotic names $20 a song to dance, then go home, eat a pizza, read a book and sleep like a baby. I'm sure the dancers will be so sad I'm paying them and I'm not following them around outside the club like a puppy pretending I don't thinks they are sexy and I only want to put up their wallpaper and walk their dog.
Dirty Ernie
02-27-2010, 04:48 PM
+1. Pretty impressive for your 3rd post.
I think my first 3 posts were:
LOL
I Agree!
Bewbies
:D
WestCoast101
02-27-2010, 05:07 PM
very good analysis over all.
the original OP question i agree is absurd, he's looking for approval, i just don't how that matters one way or the other, but of course in here its a specialiy site, and the minutia of the strip club experience get discussed all the time
in theory one might think of it like a Broadway play, but the women in the play are not grinding you, nor are they kissing you, and (iof course rarer cases) certainly not fucking you (ITT o OTT) , nor are the ocassionallyy scanning (as a small segement of dancers do) into the audience as a sort of shopping cart to pick out either RL playtoys, or in some cases keeping an eye out for OTC sugar daddies to fund their lifestyles.
now of course grinding is very common, various other things less common to varying degrees, but every single one of them is some element of the business, of course sex not part of the regular business model per se, as its also prostitution at some level, in most cases.
i think you are mixing up 'white nights' (guys trying to save girls from the business )with 'cheap ass time wasters", some of whom also see themselves as RL friends of dancers because since they spend nothing can hang via high time segments at clubs,. but your analysis is quite good otherwise.
you've also said on some other posts you have very little club experience, spend only moderate amounts, and have doubts about your looks, however it you flip all that around including freqent visits to many clubs over a number of yrs, the club dynamic can become alot more complicated than you are laying out.
chris91
02-27-2010, 07:38 PM
time to hit the club, pay gorgeous mysterious women with exotic names $20 a song to dance, then go home, eat a pizza, read a book and sleep like a baby. I'm sure the dancers will be so sad I'm paying them and I'm not following them around outside the club like a puppy pretending I don't thinks they are sexy and I only want to put up their wallpaper and walk their dog.
The voltron stripper thinks that you are awesome.
mediocrity
02-27-2010, 07:42 PM
Does it really matter if a dancer 'respects' the customer married or not?
Strip clubs are fantasy entertainment. Why would a dancer care if she morally/spiritually/intellectually respects a guy when her only interaction will likely be a a 5 minute convo followed by a 10 minute dance she gets paid for? why would a customer's personality really matter that much as long as they followed normal social conventions and were not grabby/jerks/blatantly disrespectful?
it is possible to be entertained by people who don't respect you. Nirvana openly disdained their more 'mainstream' fans (which I was at the time they broke), but I still liked their music. NWA/Wu-Tang would probably not want to hang out with a boring midwest middle class nerdy guy who followed all federal/state/local drug/gun regulations that had no street cred, but it doesn't make me not enjoy their rhymes and beats.
why would it be necessary to care if all actors/actresses in a play 'respected you as a person' or if you had a 'real outside the theater' friendship with them? what if I just want to go to a play, and I don't care about the performers' pet care/laundry tips/one night stands/ sick grandma?
I think it is more well adjusted to go the club, enjoy the beauty/charisma/personalities of the performers, then go home and get on with work/friends outside of a strip club. I think the 'white knights' that go the club (despite 'totally having real perfect platonic deep friendships outside da club'), and NOT PAY THE DANCERS ANYTHING should start a white knight club. here are the rules:
1. the white knights cannot ever think the dancers are hot or get a boner (since that would ruin the platonic friendship!)
2. since the dancers respect their friendship so much and get math tutoring and pet babysitting from the white knights, they could NEVER get paid for dances/time since that would 'ruin the perfect platonic friendship'
3. dancers would have to TORTURE their 'platonic friends' by dressing in sexy clothes, but they could be so relieved only their white knight friends who 400% respect them as platonic friends would be there to have tea party conversations about how great it is that pervos, married, and weird guys are not longer allowed to pay them for dances. there would be plenty of time for the dancers to tell their 'friends' what errends to run, what home improvement tasks to do, while the 'platonic friend' doesn't think about how hot the dancer is and decides whether the dancer should wear a burka outside the club.
why is it honorable or not effin stoopid to hang out with mickey mouse outside of disneyland, and interrogate him about if he thinks his customers are stupid since they 'go along' with him pretending t be mickey mouse at disneyland? just saying, don't see the difference
time to hit the club, pay gorgeous mysterious women with exotic names $20 a song to dance, then go home, eat a pizza, read a book and sleep like a baby. I'm sure the dancers will be so sad I'm paying them and I'm not following them around outside the club like a puppy pretending I don't thinks they are sexy and I only want to put up their wallpaper and walk their dog.
I laughed, I cried, I wondered if this was posted by my boyfriend.
YOU GET IT. This makes you the winner. http://spoongod.gazaxian.com/9901.OMFG!!!11!%20U+TEH+WINNAR!!!1!!.jpg
Hopper
02-27-2010, 09:05 PM
^Winner of what? An award for stating the obvious? No points off for composition? Good analysis or not, the "white knight" issue is nothing to do with the OP. Personally I can understand the "white knights" - it's a natural reaction. Stripping goes beyond acting. The question is why they go to SCs if they disagree with it. And it's the stripping white knights disagree with, not sex.
hockeybobby
02-27-2010, 09:48 PM
Yeah, I don't get the relevance of the white knight post to this thread either. But eh.
WestCoast101
02-27-2010, 11:36 PM
^Winner of what? An award for stating the obvious? No points off for composition? Good analysis or not, the "white knight" issue is nothing to do with the OP. Personally I can understand the "white knights" - it's a natural reaction. Stripping goes beyond acting. The question is why they go to SCs if they disagree with it. And it's the stripping white knights disagree with, not sex.
True, much of is very obvious, but probably not to somebody with little experience in clubs, and I believe he's still in the "wow" stage with most strippers, but it won't last. HINT: much of it is done with lighting and platform heels. I;m still wowed with about 10% and that's alot of girls. so I am not complaining.
The "White Knights" issue is hopelessly intertwined with the "cheap ass time waster" issue., and its hard to unravel it all.
The lap dog paragraphs are drawing the expected raves, gee I am so surprised. LOL
Interesting and entertaining commentary nonetheless.
Hopper
02-28-2010, 12:15 AM
^What's the "wow" stage? He's never seen a naked woman before going to SCs?
chris91
02-28-2010, 01:10 AM
It doesn't matter if parts of his post were irrelevant to this thread. We've been swimming in bullshit for so long in cc, that I can't help but get excited when a dude says something that isn't retarded.
Also, Hopper, "the wow stage" is another piece of made up westcoats101 bullshit. Kind of like the "horndog" theory, the "10% of dancers will kiss you" theory, and the "commas are just as good as periods" theory.
WestCoast101
02-28-2010, 01:14 AM
^What's the "wow" stage? He's never seen a naked woman before going to SCs?
probably not many in RL, and probably not many very hot, and I'm getting that impression from specific comments in one of his other posts.. As I've said other times, to me most strippers (except for a 20 yr age variance issue) are generally well within the range of girls I have been involved with in RL and this includes many of the more attractive dancers in clubs, Now there are probably approx 10% above my range. and with those at least (age issues aside from the moment) I would say those I do still get a bit of the "wow" factor often times
The age factor is important of course, and a girl typicallly 20 yrs younger can by itself make her far more attractive to you than she otherwise might be.
Hopper
02-28-2010, 01:59 AM
probably not many in RL, and probably not many very hot, and I'm getting that impression from specific comments in one of his other posts.. As I've said other times, to me most strippers (except for a 20 yr age variance issue) are generally well within the range of girls I have been involved with in RL and this includes many of the more attractive dancers in clubs, Now there are probably approx 10% above my range. and with those at least (age issues aside from the moment) I would say those I do still get a bit of the "wow" factor often times
So it's just the nudity. I thought that your "hint" about lighting and heels might mean that it is to do with a specifically stripper appeal of some kind. You meant only that they enhance attractiveness/hide shortcomings of strippers?
There is not even 10% (on average) in clubs near me who I would date. There is only the occasional wow. But then some girls I date are wow for me. (It would be sad if none were.) But I hear some things are different in clubs elsewhere so maybe this is another.
The age factor is important of course, and a girl typicallly 20 yrs younger can by itself make her far more attractive to you than she otherwise might be.
How many 40 yo guys haven't seen many pretty young naked women before?
Hopper
02-28-2010, 03:01 AM
It doesn't matter if parts of his post were irrelevant to this thread. We've been swimming in bullshit for so long in cc, that I can't help but get excited when a dude says something that isn't retarded.
I know that feeling.
Also, Hopper, "the wow stage" is another piece of made up westcoats101 bullshit. Kind of like the "horndog" theory, the "10% of dancers will kiss you" theory, and the "commas are just as good as periods" theory.
I'm still not exactly sure what WC101's "wow stage" is. As far as I can make out it means either the customer seeing naked girls in the club which he doesn't get to see naked IRL (i.e. they are out of his league) or a customer who has not seen naked girls (i.e. been with) before visitting a SC for the first time.
princessjas
02-28-2010, 08:07 AM
It doesn't matter if parts of his post were irrelevant to this thread. We've been swimming in bullshit for so long in cc, that I can't help but get excited when a dude says something that isn't retarded.
Also, Hopper, "the wow stage" is another piece of made up westcoats101 bullshit. Kind of like the "horndog" theory, the "10% of dancers will kiss you" theory, and the "commas are just as good as periods" theory.
:rotfl: OMG, I just spit diet sprite out my nose. ;D The dog is looking at me funny cause I can't stop laughing. hehe
yoda57us
02-28-2010, 08:56 AM
1. If people where capable of grasping the obvious most of the threads on CC would run for about five posts and we wouldn't need a moderator...
2. There are examples of White Knight'ism all over this thread.
WestCoast101
02-28-2010, 10:59 AM
"ThatGuy" clearly is mixing up White Knights'Ts with THETHECheap Ass withthstates
" I think the 'white knights' that go the club (despite 'totally having real perfect platonic deep friendships outside da club'), and NOT PAY THE DANCERS ANYTHING should start a white knight club. here are the rules:"
More proof its also about "cheap ass time wasters" is the specific reference to offering "math tutoring", which clearly refers to a certain party who (I believe) spends almost nothing at his club, yet views dancers as RL friends, all of which was part of an extensive thread discussion last month.
WestCoast101
02-28-2010, 11:24 AM
(typo thing, correcting earlier post;)
there is very little if anything directly or indirectly in this thread about "White Knights". The comments by Bem have nothing to do with that white knights issue,. Same with references to Phil W from London, he's not trying to save anyone. Bem says that buying dances from his friends has become "uncomfortable" and "doesn't work for him or his friends" (ok no big thing), but then mentions (as he has before) that his dancer friends don't like their customers, but then Bem specifically mentions on this thread that married guys are the customers that they dislike the most. However, BEM (from the posts l've read here and elsewhere) is not acting as any White Knight, nor do I think he is claiming that he is acting as such.
Some "White knights" pay and some don't, some are cheap and some are not, some have lots of money, the essence of what they do is a (normally) misguided attempt at saving dancers from something, whereas "cheap ass time wasters" are about just being cheap or just not having the funds, and Bem may not be a subset of that group. because he's referring to the RL friends issue.
the point is "thatguy" is clearly confusing two different issues.
WestCoast101
02-28-2010, 12:38 PM
FYI "White Knight Syndrome" (urbandictionary.com)"a state of mind whereby a male feels the need or obligation to rescue maidens from unfortunate circumstances."
KS_Stevia
02-28-2010, 01:16 PM
I'll take a white knight who pays over a Bem cheap time waster any day. At least with the WK, I can just grin and nod like an idiot, all the while thinking of where I'm going to eat after work.