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KS_Stevia
02-24-2010, 10:29 AM
I openly admit that I am judgemental of people who play with feces. Sucking a dick within a few feet of a pubic toilet IS dirty. It has nothing to do with any moral crap, it's just unhygenic. Any woman who performs oral sex in the men's room of a nightclub has some serious issues. It is jugemental but I have the same feeling about people who eat shit for erotic purposes.
Some people are into public sex, its not even that weird a fetish. Germs are everywhere anyway. If you keep your toothbrush in your bathroom, its likely covered the micro organisms that spring out of your toilet when you poop. So, technically, most people put some level of feces in their mouths every day.
MarvelGirl
02-24-2010, 10:59 AM
Some people are into public sex, its not even that weird a fetish. Germs are everywhere anyway. If you keep your toothbrush in your bathroom, its likely covered the micro organisms that spring out of your toilet when you poop. So, technically, most people put some level of feces in their mouths every day.
I'm aware of what is in my bathroom. However, I see a huge difference between germs in my bathroom and germs in the bathroom of a room utilized by hundreds of drunk men nightly.
I'm not going to change my mind. I'm aware that my toothbrush probably has some of my feces on it, but they're mine, not the feces of hundreds of strangers.
I feel the same way about escorts who rim their clients. It grosses me out and I am convinced that it is extremely unsanitary.
JayATee
02-24-2010, 12:15 PM
^ For real man. It's getting close.
He got laid. That's all this thread is about. Who da fuck cares.
He does. Enough to create an SW acct in order to get validation.
I really do love snow days... :D
mediocrity
02-24-2010, 12:22 PM
Some people are into public sex, its not even that weird a fetish. Germs are everywhere anyway. If you keep your toothbrush in your bathroom, its likely covered the micro organisms that spring out of your toilet when you poop. So, technically, most people put some level of feces in their mouths every day.
WTF?
...... you're kidding me, right?
mediocrity
02-24-2010, 12:23 PM
quote=Scoundrel;1905907]I know this will come off as bragging, but I don't know any other way to ask. I'm a 48 year old man. I'm 6' 3" tall and weigh about 225 lbs. I never buy lap dances, but sometimes tip at the stage. I like to dress well. For some reason dancers like me. Last week I went into a club I'd never been to before and within 20 minutes a girl in her late 20s was all over me and a couple of hours later we were having sex in the parking lot. I didn't offer her any money or drugs or anything. She just liked me and said I give off a "pimp" vibe. I assume that's a complement? This kind of thing happens to me fairly often.
Am I just the exotic dancer boyfriend type?
All sorts of red flags come up just in your first 3 posts. You talk about creating "butterflies" in some of these women, that sounds like "love" yet you claim that the reason you like dancers to date is because its just about sex to them, and i guess more than one of these 17 you first did in the parking lot or something similar? because you also said those kind of things happend "fairly often"
Why would a college girl or some young girl from a college bar suck your dick in the bathroom? Even if she too had the "butterflies. You are middle aged, you got bad teeth, since the pic shows you smoking then I can fairly assume you're not really in good shape despite being almost normal weight for your height. Sorry, but any girl sucking a guy's dick in that siutation is definitely a slut, its the very definition of the term.
You say you are a hs dropout and have no education yet you are (later) citing Maslow which nearly every freshman learns about their first year of college, and that would fit in with this being a PUA college age guy. People are self taught fine, but what are the odds here when you bringing up Maslow?.
OMFG. Set me on fire and throw me to the wolves, I agree with westcoast.
I no longer have a reason to live.
sxcbbw
02-24-2010, 12:25 PM
^ If you can smell poop, you're technically, TECHNICALLY inhaling a fine poopmist.
Third year chemistry was amazing when we learned that. "There's poop and farts up your nose. Don't eat what's up there." - I miss that teacher.
hockeybobby
02-24-2010, 12:34 PM
This thread just took a bad turn for the worse.
yoda57us
02-24-2010, 12:35 PM
I'm not going to change my mind. I'm aware that my toothbrush probably has some of my feces on it, but they're mine, not the feces of hundreds of strangers.
True, about your toothbrush...but the money you take from customers has plenty of stranger DNA on it. Yep, feces is everywhere!
KS_Stevia
02-24-2010, 12:44 PM
WTF?
...... you're kidding me, right?
Damp toothbrush in a damp bathroom where toilets get flushed and elimate is agitated by the spinning of the toilet water....bacteria flys all over the air and settles everywhere, reproduces, dies off, etc.
Its a teeny, tiny amount, really....but its true. Still, we touch and inhale waste and bacteria everywhere we go, hence its good to wash hands with soap and hot water several times a day....this reminds me, I need to clean my bathroom, lol.
Plus, the mouth has a ton of germs already in it, many that are stronger than the weakened bacteria that might remain and reside in our toothbrush.
All I'm saying, is that life is gross. Public sex is fun.
Dammit, I had to delete some of my posts because I feel like I'm coming off as "defending" the OP. I'm not.
I have to go to a state agency this afternoon and am procrastinating hard. Ick, government workers, I'm more afraid of them than I am of public toilets! :P
yoda57us
02-24-2010, 01:05 PM
I have to go to a state agency this afternoon and am procrastinating hard. Ick, government workers, I'm more afraid of them than I am of public toilets! :P
I don't blame you. A little bacteria can be dealt with by applying soap and water...Government worker slime is much tougher to wash off...
JayATee
02-24-2010, 01:13 PM
Damp toothbrush in a damp bathroom where toilets get flushed and elimate is agitated by the spinning of the toilet water....bacteria flys all over the air and settles everywhere, reproduces, dies off, etc.
Its a teeny, tiny amount, really....but its true. Still, we touch and inhale waste and bacteria everywhere we go, hence its good to wash hands with soap and hot water several times a day....this reminds me, I need to clean my bathroom, lol.
Plus, the mouth has a ton of germs already in it, many that are stronger than the weakened bacteria that might remain and reside in our toothbrush.
All I'm saying, is that life is gross. Public sex is fun.
Dammit, I had to delete some of my posts because I feel like I'm coming off as "defending" the OP. I'm not.
I have to go to a state agency this afternoon and am procrastinating hard. Ick, government workers, I'm more afraid of them than I am of public toilets! :P
That's why you close the lid....
MarvelGirl
02-24-2010, 01:18 PM
True, about your toothbrush...but the money you take from customers has plenty of stranger DNA on it. Yep, feces is everywhere!
I don't put that money in my mouth either. I also wash my hands after touching money before I touch my face.
MarvelGirl
02-24-2010, 01:18 PM
WTF?
...... you're kidding me, right?
Yeah, the mythbusters episode on toothbrushes was pretty disturbing.
WestCoast101
02-24-2010, 01:30 PM
Ok, you are for real.
It has to be the usual (non controversial) alpha factors, with near ideal height and weight a huge plus, on that, probably combined w/ better than avg conversational ability and personality, and what you lack in education compensated for elsewhere. Lets assume that already puts you in the top 10% for middle aged guys in clubs, minus the (lack) of resource factor.. Your general area (ie the clubs) could also be a bit more sleazy than typical, not sure though
Then there has to be a majorX factor at work here ( in clubs and RL), and my guess is that somehow w/o you even knowing it necessarily, you are putting out this horndog vibe thing, constantly giving females the impression that sex with large volumes of women is something you believe in and engage in., and that X factor is kicking the chemistry up huge. Its all subconscious for women, so i don't thing many will agree in here with that, but its the best explanation. There is no other way to explain this
hockeybobby
02-24-2010, 01:39 PM
Yup....right down the toilet.
http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/wp-content/media/uploads/2009/11/toilet.jpg
rubyredlipsss
02-24-2010, 01:43 PM
i dont know hb, all this poo talk seems appropriate now, i mean this guy sounded pretty shitty to begin with :D
Scoundrel
02-24-2010, 02:04 PM
i dont know hb, all this poo talk seems appropriate now, i mean this guy sounded pretty shitty to begin with :D
LOL yep that sounds like me.
Scoundrel
02-24-2010, 02:13 PM
Ok, you are for real.
It has to be the usual (non controversial) alpha factors, with near ideal height and weight a huge plus, on that, probably combined w/ better than avg conversational ability and personality, and what you lack in education compensated for elsewhere. Lets assume that already puts you in the top 10% for middle aged guys in clubs, minus the (lack) of resource factor.. Your general area (ie the clubs) could also be a bit more sleazy than typical, not sure though
Then there has to be a majorX factor at work here ( in clubs and RL), and my guess is that somehow w/o you even knowing it necessarily, you are putting out this horndog vibe thing, constantly giving females the impression that sex with large volumes of women is something you believe in and engage in., and that X factor is kicking the chemistry up huge. Its all subconscious for women, so i don't thing many will agree in here with that, but its the best explanation. There is no other way to explain this
Well, they say if you can reach just one person... It was the finger that did it. Wasn't it?
JayATee
02-24-2010, 02:17 PM
i dont know hb, all this poo talk seems appropriate now, i mean this guy sounded pretty shitty to begin with :D
Yeah I was gonna say, it was circling the bowl from the very beginning.
rubyredlipsss
02-24-2010, 02:25 PM
:rolf:
hockeybobby
02-24-2010, 03:03 PM
But, it's true that I never finished high school. I have dyslexia and simply couldn't keep up. That's also why I never went to college.
You seem to have dealt with this challenge quite well (you're writing is better than decent)...I'm curious to know how you were able to overcome this? (not a trick question, I am genuinely curious)
It reminds me of how my father used to playfully tease his step-granddaughter. He'd raise his fist in the air and yell "dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!! He was a goof sometimes.
Now tell the truth, were you the subject of this book?
http://blog.syracuse.com/shelflife/2008/05/scoundrel.jpg
WestCoast101
02-24-2010, 03:20 PM
Well, they say if you can reach just one person... It was the finger that did it. Wasn't it?
No, it was the sign itself.
I go with probabilities, and since one has to conclude that a bored college type PUA test drive guy would be photo shopping around, and while he might find one group of pics for use in his fictional persona. there is near zero probabilty of such a pic also including such a sign. Now its possible to use photo shaping etc, but then its gets into the realm of absurdity
Now as for your details, yes some are extreme and a bit sleazy, but overall there is consistency to your claims, and your answer in regards to the "butterflies" is reasonable, therefore I have to conclude you are real and your details either accurate or very close.
chris91
02-24-2010, 03:25 PM
Public sex is fun.
Sure it is. Just not if you're doing it with a lame douchebag who will later sign up for stripperweb just so he can brag about it.
Scoundrel
02-24-2010, 03:32 PM
You seem to have dealt with this challenge quite well (you're writing is better than decent)...I'm curious to know how you were able to overcome this?
It reminds me of how my father used to playfully tease his step-granddaughter. He'd raise his fist in the air and yell "dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!! He was a goof sometimes.
Now tell the truth, were you the subject of this book?
http://blog.syracuse.com/shelflife/2008/05/scoundrel.jpg
Thank you. I'm still a slower reader than most. I have a spell checker that underlines every misspelled word and I visit dictionary.com a lot. I'm also ADHD and that's likely why I don't do so well in relationships. I forget a lot of things often and it drives many women nuts. They think I just don't listen or worse, don't care. I'll be on my way to do something, get distracted and start playing guitar. LOL But, it also make me fairly high energy and fun to be around in the short term.
Scoundrel
02-24-2010, 03:45 PM
No, it was the sign itself.
I go with probabilities, and since one has to conclude that a bored college type PUA test drive guy would be photo shopping around, and while he might find one group of pics for use in his fictional persona. there is near zero probabilty of such a pic also including such a sign. Now its possible to use photo shaping etc, but then its gets into the realm of absurdity
Now as for your details, yes some are extreme and a bit sleazy, but overall there is consistency to your claims, and your answer in regards to the "butterflies" is reasonable, therefore I have to conclude you are real and your details either accurate or very close.
If that hadn't worked I was going to up load a video on you tube. LOL
charlie61
02-24-2010, 03:57 PM
This is literally the first time I've ever been tempted to misuse my moderating powers and shut down a thread that doesn't really require closing. Just so I don't have to read it anymore.
yoda57us
02-24-2010, 04:47 PM
This is literally the first time I've ever been tempted to misuse my moderating powers and shut down a thread that doesn't really require closing. Just so I don't have to read it anymore.
I have to admit I don't envy your dilemma charlie. The rest of us, except, for you and FBR, can pick and choose our poison here on CC. You two poor bastards have to read every single sentence of this foolishness....:O
hockeybobby
02-24-2010, 05:00 PM
http://memegenerator.net/Instances/992/Foul-Bachelor-Frog-THIS-THREAD-NEEDS-MOAR-ANAL.jpg
WestCoast101
02-24-2010, 05:07 PM
Scoundrel
note the "horndog phenomenom", or whatever one might call it, is very counterintuitive, and I think that pisses women off when someone brings it up, because it actually goes against what they honestly believe they want in a man, i.e. a sincere, nondeceptive, non-controlling, and most important monogamous guy. They often run into these guys having the the usual conventional things (intelligencee, looks, height, strength etc), and all the non-horndog things, but then they complain "there is no chemistry" and they cannot figure why.
I see "Jack" from Houston earlier saying by accident he discovered something like this, althought he doesn't describe it the same way. I found it out years back, at a time when I was so busy doing other thing, i literally have very little time for spending time with certain women, and I would get accused of cheating, then I noticed something must be going on, then you realize its the horndog vibe at work. I didnt connect the dots until i saw the article by Robert Wright (author of The Moral Animal) who wrote the Time Mag Cover piece back in 1994 entiltled "Is male nonmonogamy the evolutionary norm"? and its then when i talked with him as to whether this might be an explanation , and he agreed it was possible, but at that point he had not even considered it.
charlie61
02-24-2010, 05:31 PM
I have to admit I don't envy your dilemma charlie. The rest of us, except, for you and FBR, can pick and choose our poison here on CC. You two poor bastards have to read every single sentence of this foolishness....:O
True that mah brotha. I must be an altruist. :P
chris91
02-24-2010, 07:25 PM
Scoundrel
note the "horndog phenomenom", or whatever one might call it, is very counterintuitive, and I think that pisses women off when someone brings it up, because it actually goes against what they honestly believe they want in a man, i.e. a sincere, nondeceptive, non-controlling, and most important monogamous guy. They often run into these guys having the the usual conventional things (intelligencee, looks, height, strength etc), and all the non-horndog things, but then they complain "there is no chemistry" and they cannot figure why.
I haven't been reading your posts throughout this thread in order to protect my brain from bullshit overload, but for some reason I couldn't avoid this one.
Why do you insist on saying things that you know will offend people? Have you not noticed that this is a website created for and dominated by women?
Can you not see how offensive this is? As if we are not capable of deciding what we want. I know exactly what I want, and that is for you to shut your stupid mouth. Seriously, What is wrong with you?
KS_Stevia
02-24-2010, 07:29 PM
I must disagree WestCoast, although I see where you are coming from. My current SO is totally the horndog type you describe, yet is passionately monogamous. I enjoy watching him fool around with other girls immensely, yet he NEVER EVER pushes for it..sometimes it just happens.
Sometimes, decent guys can give off that vibe too. Not saying that Scoundrel is the same...but I just think your hypoethesis could use some refinement.
Scoundrel
02-24-2010, 08:05 PM
I must disagree WestCoast, although I see where you are coming from. My current SO is totally the horndog type you describe, yet is passionately monogamous. I enjoy watching him fool around with other girls immensely, yet he NEVER EVER pushes for it..sometimes it just happens.
Sometimes, decent guys can give off that vibe too. Not saying that Scoundrel is the same...but I just think your hypoethesis could use some refinement.
I think what westCoast101 means to say is some men give off the vibe that they get laid often while other men don't and many women seem to prefer the former. He may be right. I don't know. I think it's simply some guys are more fun than others and women like fun men. Again I don't know who's right.
sxcbbw
02-24-2010, 08:10 PM
^ It's the specific use of the term "non-monogamy" that's getting people riled up. Not just "laid often" - "laid with lots of different women" is what's being presented here.
And presented badly, though I'm not sure how a man can present "I know what women want better than women because it's all subconscious for them" in a way that goes down well.
I have to admit I don't envy your dilemma charlie. The rest of us, except, for you and FBR, can pick and choose our poison here on CC. You two poor bastards have to read every single sentence of this foolishness....:OYoda, charlie shoulders most of the load. She wakes me up every once in a while with a question but generally she lets me sleep. Sleeping is what old farts do well ;D
FBR
Almost Jaded
02-24-2010, 10:53 PM
Anytime anyone has a problem with one of my posts re my relationships with dancers etc, I'm linking to this debacle, LMAO.
FWIW, I totally believe the OP. The same way I really believe that the authors of those lame-ass "bag a stripper" pickup books CAN in fact claim that their system works.
If you're willing to take the bottom feeders, you'll be awash in pussy most of your life, LOL.
I've been with just over 50 women in my life. Some people are shocked by that "high" number, others are amazed that it's that low given my history and reputation, lol. But I am PICKY with who I will sleep with. That number could be 10x that if I was willing to hook up with any willing chick.
I know guys like that. STD's and all the other valid concerns aside, I just can't imagine having sex with just anybody because your criteria consist of "willing", and that's about it. And I am a self proclaimed slut, about as non-judgmental as they come when it comes to others' likes and dislikes and kinks and whatever.
Bleh - I'm rambling. To summarize - the OP sounds a LOT like guys I know who will fuck anything with a pussy and a pulse. And because he sounds JUST like them, I believe him.
Why he needs to share it with the world, I don't know. Why the world cares to the tune of 13 pages, I know even less. But hey - people watch Springer, too, so there ya' go...
Dirty Ernie
02-24-2010, 11:23 PM
Ok, you are for real.
It has to be the usual (non controversial) alpha factors, with near ideal height and weight a huge plus, on that, probably combined w/ better than avg conversational ability and personality, and what you lack in education compensated for elsewhere. Lets assume that already puts you in the top 10% for middle aged guys in clubs, minus the (lack) of resource factor.. Your general area (ie the clubs) could also be a bit more sleazy than typical, not sure though
Then there has to be a majorX factor at work here ( in clubs and RL), and my guess is that somehow w/o you even knowing it necessarily, you are putting out this horndog vibe thing, constantly giving females the impression that sex with large volumes of women is something you believe in and engage in., and that X factor is kicking the chemistry up huge. Its all subconscious for women, so i don't thing many will agree in here with that, but its the best explanation. There is no other way to explain this
This is way too analytical for what is obviously going on with Scoundrel.
Back in the days of ASSC it was widely known that the stereo-typical boyfriend of a stripper was an immature, unemployed, game playing, wanna-be musician, otherwise known as a "parolee".
Perhaps some of today's strippers are fighting against that stereo-type and have moved up(?) to the mature, under-employed, wanna-be musician known as Scoundrel. :P
Almost Jaded
02-25-2010, 12:08 AM
Roflmao!
Dunno why, that just cracked me the fuck up, lol.
Pretty_Penny
02-25-2010, 12:26 AM
I dunno guys. The more he talks the more I feel my vagina being magnetically pulled towards Texas. It's almost... like I can't... stop myself...from.... turning...into.. a .....
..sex zombie.... .....must have..
.......... scoundrel dick. *twitch twitch*
peachplumpear
02-25-2010, 12:40 AM
I went for a guy like this recently....
It really did have to do with the vibe he put out. He did buy dances but after every one when I asked if he wanted to keep going he'd just say "whatever you want to do". Since I wanted his money, of course I wanted to keep dancing, but then because he didn't seem to NEED MY SERVICES and was basically only paying for as long as I wanted to dance... I ended up really liking him and seeing him outside the club.
He's 6'4" really boistrous, fun and a little ADD, always talking about fun stuff or planning something fun.
Then again he was in the right place at the right time maybe, but there's something to be said the "Take it or leave it" attitude as it makes a women really question her desire and how much she wants to pursue someone. When you take money out of the equation but still offer something of value, your personality, it's very attractive to me. Not the dancer "me" but the real me.
This guy has also told me that alot of dancers like him, so there's that non-monogamous vibe that makes me want to try a teeny bit harder. It also makes me him seem like a more valuable mate, even though I know they're all just responding to the same thing that I did.
Right now I'm just trying to work the game backwards and make sure he knows I'm not going to fall in love with him and be on his beck and call like I'm sure so many girls have before. His attitude is one that women are pleasureable yet expendable experiences that complement his life but really do not have a lasting place in it. I think when men present themselves this way, it stirs up a bit of a hopeless romantic in some dancers (myself mainly). Like they're thinking...if I just fuck him really good he'll want me around all the time. and: I can change his mind, I want to be the only woman he needs.
WestCoast101
02-25-2010, 12:52 AM
I must disagree WestCoast, although I see where you are coming from. My current SO is totally the horndog type you describe, yet is passionately monogamous. I enjoy watching him fool around with other girls immensely, yet he NEVER EVER pushes for it..sometimes it just happens.
Sometimes, decent guys can give off that vibe too. Not saying that Scoundrel is the same...but I just think your hypoethesis could use some refinement.
valid point
i've been shortcutting it a bit recently in the interests of keeping it concise, but if you look back you will see many posts referring to the concept of what accurately could be described as "genetic perception", the point being what genes BELIEVE not what is actually happening - is the most critical factor..
in Scoundrel's case (probably the more common situation) they are both the same, as he is both being perceived as nonmonogamous and in fact is nonmonogamous . However it is entirely possible for a male (for a time at least) to be perceived as nonmonogamous (or give off the vibe) yet not actually be nonmonogamous. In genetic terms the outcome is the same, both IMHO will kick up the chemistry.
Everything is about what genes believe, even if such beliefs are mistaken, as they arguably are in the case of genes today believing high volume seed spreading as having significant genetic survival benefits in modern times relatived to male monogamy and resource focused investment in offpring.. Genes in general simply do not understand modern constructs, as they appear to operate out of earlier primordial timframes. For example birth control obviously mitigates much of the advantagee of high volume seed spreading.,yet genes don't seem to recongnize that simple fact, and if they did, typical modern males would have far less interest in having sex with large volumes of females.
Think of a genetic lottery, with the horndog perceived (mistakenly of course)l as a safer bet in terms of getting those genes moved forward
chris91
02-25-2010, 01:33 AM
His attitude is one that women are pleasureable yet expendable experiences that complement his life but really do not have a lasting place in it. I think when men present themselves this way, it stirs up a bit of a hopeless romantic in some dancers (myself mainly). Like they're thinking...if I just fuck him really good he'll want me around all the time. and: I can change his mind, I want to be the only woman he needs.
I do not understand why you would want to be with a man like this. I mean, I get that some women see this type of guy as a challenge and believe that they will somehow be validated if they can change him. What I don't get is why you, being aware of what's going on, would continue to do this. Surely, you deserve better than a guy who could take you or leave you.
Hopper
02-25-2010, 02:00 AM
I do not understand why you would want to be with a man like this. I mean, I get that some women see this type of guy as a challenge and believe that they will somehow be validated if they can change him. What I don't get is why you, being aware of what's going on, would continue to do this. Surely, you deserve better than a guy who could take you or leave you.
Obviously because she thinks she can change him from a man who can take or leave her to a man who needs her. She would of course also be attracted by the man's other qualities or she would not want to change him. It's not necessarily about validation.
WestCoast101
02-25-2010, 02:38 AM
I went for a guy like this recently....
It really did have to do with the vibe he put out. He did buy dances but after every one when I asked if he wanted to keep going he'd just say "whatever you want to do". Since I wanted his money, of course I wanted to keep dancing, but then because he didn't seem to NEED MY SERVICES and was basically only paying for as long as I wanted to dance... I ended up really liking him and seeing him outside the club.
He's 6'4" really boistrous, fun and a little ADD, always talking about fun stuff or planning something fun.
Then again he was in the right place at the right time maybe, but there's something to be said the "Take it or leave it" attitude as it makes a women really question her desire and how much she wants to pursue
someone. When you take money out of the equation but still offer something of value, your personality, it's very attractive to me. Not the dancer "me" but the real me.
This guy has also told me that alot of dancers like him, so there's that non-monogamous vibe that makes me want to try a teeny bit harder. It also makes me him seem like a more valuable mate, even though I know they're all just responding to the same thing that I did.
Right now I'm just trying to work the game backwards and make sure he knows I'm not going to fall in love with him and be on his beck and call like I'm sure so many girls have before. His attitude is one that women are pleasureable yet expendable experiences that complement his life but really do not have a lasting place in it. I think when men present themselves this way, it stirs up a bit of a hopeless romantic in some dancers (myself mainly). Like they're thinking...if I just fuck him really good he'll want me around all the time. and: I can change his mind, I want to be the only woman he needs.
Absolutely a DIL situation, with you clearly being "in love" at some level, but maybe he's just a super attractive guy with the horndog factor having no causative effect. For example Sean Conneryi(in his younger days at least) attracted most women, and he was also a horndog, but women's attraction toward him had very little to do with him being a horndog.
What makes you think he's a true horndog?
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chris91
02-25-2010, 02:42 AM
Obviously because she thinks she can change him from a man who can take or leave her to a man who needs her. She would of course also be attracted by the man's other qualities or she would not want to change him. It's not necessarily about validation.
She just said that the reason she went for him "really did have to do with the vibe he put out." I assume she's referring to his vibe of total indifference, since it's the first, last and middle thing she talks about in her post.
I'm sure she does find him attractive and fun as well. My question is why not look for a man who also finds you attractive and fun, instead of slobbering all over a dude who doesn't give two craps about you.
peachplumpear
02-25-2010, 02:56 AM
geez guys :) Oh, well I guess it's his ambition I'm attracted to the most, I like the fact that he has something OTHER than me to worry about all day. It's not that I'm being ignored? idk Plus I think as soon as he would actually turn into someone that really needs me that bad I would just get disgusted and be over it. It totally is the challenge. I'm fully aware it's a fruitless pursuit in some ways. But I want to live a fun life now and not a boring one...players can play eachother. That's what the OP mentioned a few times, that's there's nothing wrong with a woman being really turned on by something and then just going with it. I waited weeks before I went for it with this guy.
peachplumpear
02-25-2010, 03:05 AM
My question is why not look for a man who also finds you attractive and fun
I guess because that's just about everyone I've met and it got boring. I don't like to have my way all the time, thats why the PUA stuff can actually work because it's NOT kissing her ass like a puppy dog but just being comfortable, cool and not acting like it's the end of world if she doesn't like you back, having fun with it. btw he does find me attractive and fun, that was just describing how we met, he was enjoying his dances just not all like a customer about it, more natural and relaxed like "If you want to keep going"
Scoundrel
02-25-2010, 03:51 AM
I went for a guy like this recently....
It really did have to do with the vibe he put out. He did buy dances but after every one when I asked if he wanted to keep going he'd just say "whatever you want to do". Since I wanted his money, of course I wanted to keep dancing, but then because he didn't seem to NEED MY SERVICES and was basically only paying for as long as I wanted to dance... I ended up really liking him and seeing him outside the club.
He's 6'4" really boistrous, fun and a little ADD, always talking about fun stuff or planning something fun.
Then again he was in the right place at the right time maybe, but there's something to be said the "Take it or leave it" attitude as it makes a women really question her desire and how much she wants to pursue someone. When you take money out of the equation but still offer something of value, your personality, it's very attractive to me. Not the dancer "me" but the real me.
This guy has also told me that alot of dancers like him, so there's that non-monogamous vibe that makes me want to try a teeny bit harder. It also makes me him seem like a more valuable mate, even though I know they're all just responding to the same thing that I did.
Right now I'm just trying to work the game backwards and make sure he knows I'm not going to fall in love with him and be on his beck and call like I'm sure so many girls have before. His attitude is one that women are pleasureable yet expendable experiences that complement his life but really do not have a lasting place in it. I think when men present themselves this way, it stirs up a bit of a hopeless romantic in some dancers (myself mainly). Like they're thinking...if I just fuck him really good he'll want me around all the time. and: I can change his mind, I want to be the only woman he needs.
This is a very insightful post. This is a young lady that understands what motivates her. This kind of clarity is a rare thing indeed. She knows herself much better than most.
You are a VERY special woman.
You have given me the answer I was asking for when no one else even came close. Thank you so very much.
Rayna Skye
02-25-2010, 04:48 AM
How did I end up on this post?
SteveSmith
02-25-2010, 05:02 AM
I guess because that's just about everyone I've met and it got boring. I don't like to have my way all the time, thats why the PUA stuff can actually work because it's NOT kissing her ass like a puppy dog but just being comfortable, cool and not acting like it's the end of world if she doesn't like you back, having fun with it. btw he does find me attractive and fun, that was just describing how we met, he was enjoying his dances just not all like a customer about it, more natural and relaxed like "If you want to keep going"
Yeah, women play hard to get, too, and that works sometimes. People want want they can't have. It doesn't mean they want a non-monogamous partner. A SC is the perfect example of women playing hard to get and the men who lust after them.
Maybe WestCoast is confusing playing hard to get with non-monogamy.