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Athenathefabulous
03-04-2010, 12:10 PM
Same as you no when a need is legitimate. I just get pissed off when I see it abused. which I do frequently. We lived on food stamps and govt hand out stuff like the coffee can of peanut butter that needed the oil stirred back in everytime, the five pound cheese brick, the white boxes of powdered milk. I can't count the number of times that oatmeal with govt powdered milk and honey was for dinner. My mom actually used the oil from the peanut butter as lamp oil to save on the electrical bill.

Now the way I see it and this is my opinion, in order to qualify you have to pass a drug screen, be on birth control, and if not actually at a job, attend parenting/life skills/basic education courses with childcare included. You can't just through money at the problem. Education is the answer, and if that too is rejected, cut them off.

Ive seen people abuse it. Example: A girl i worked with at my club in cleveland made a decent amount of money, based on her customers i am going to say it was because she was dirty (the customers who did CRs with her are the ones who tended to want only dirty girls). I also know she lied and said her income was only 200 a week so she could qualify for all sorts of help. That is something that you shouldnt be doing, especially if you are making over 1k a week.

Trem
03-04-2010, 12:35 PM
I doubt anyone would argue that it isn't abused, only the conclusion that just because some people abuse it we shouldn't have it.

Athenathefabulous
03-04-2010, 12:40 PM
yea i wasnt arguing either way. i was just citing an example of ridiculous abuse.

I used to be very against welfare, but then i lived in the Cleveland Ghetto with 3 roommates from the hood. It changed my perspective on a lot of things. I think lot of people who get really against giving aid have never really bothered to get to know some of the poorest parts of America.

Kellydancer
03-04-2010, 01:34 PM
Welfare needs to be limited. I was getting unemployment and these were a few things I had to do while getting it: I only got it 6 months at a time (total one year) but during that time I had to send a list of jobs I applied for. I'd like to see the same thing happen for those on welfare. I've seen my share of freeloaders abusing the system and reported a friend because she was taking her welfare check and buying things she wanted (a car, drugs, etc). Same thing with food stamps (or as it's here, the Link Card). While Christmas shopping I saw this woman trying to buy electronics with her Link card (luckily it was rejected). Food stamps should only be used for real food, not pop, snacks, candy, and certainly not luxury items like lobster (yes, I've seen this abuse). I also firmly believe that welfare should not be for illegals (I've seen this a lot in Illinois too). If welfare was stricter and it was only for those who truly needed it for a short time then more people would be understanding. In Illinois being on welfare really pays off and you get so much including food, housing, all utilities paid, medical, free college, and now even a free cell phone!

Might sound rough, but try getting assistance in Illinois if you are single. You might get a small amount of money for food, but that's it. I've worked since I was 16 and resent those who take advantage of the system. I don't want to see welfare eliminated, just limited.

Trem
03-04-2010, 04:37 PM
Welfare is limited.

rubyredlipsss
03-04-2010, 05:52 PM
^ especially when you look at how welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, etc each constitute about 1 percent of the total government spending.

Lemonz
03-04-2010, 06:04 PM
Wasn't Philly also voted the most ugly city? So now it is ugly AND miserable...

Trem
03-04-2010, 06:06 PM
Wasn't Philly also voted the most ugly city? So now it is ugly AND miserable...

I seriously doubt philly can be uglier than detroit. Detroit looks like the city from Fallout 3.

papillonluvr
03-04-2010, 06:33 PM
Im just glad that I have never wanted to live in any of those places. :)

ArmySGT-are you in C/S?

ArmySGT.
03-07-2010, 11:09 AM
Im just glad that I have never wanted to live in any of those places. :)

ArmySGT-are you in C/S?

Yep, and I just signed a one year lease! ;D

papillonluvr
03-07-2010, 03:20 PM
^^Ever been to PTs Appaloosa or Deja Vu-you might have seen me at either one before lol

Congrats on the lease! I hope it's in a decent part of town :)

ArmySGT.
03-08-2010, 11:36 AM
^^Ever been to PTs Appaloosa or Deja Vu-you might have seen me at either one before lol

Congrats on the lease! I hope it's in a decent part of town :)

I have been to the VU, another Member contatcted me becuase i am the one that told her about SW! Never been to PTs or Appaloosas. I did go to Dolls on Platte. Awful. VU beautiful Ladies but the corporate atmosphere was too much. If only I was a twenty something GI again.

questella
05-28-2010, 11:14 AM
Go OHIO! You are on there 5x!

Will
05-29-2010, 07:09 AM
A couple of surprising ones: Miami and NYC.

At first glance, I can see why you would feel that way. However, they base it on a specific formula:

"The rankings are based on jobless rates, inflation, taxes, commuting times, crime rates, performance by the city's sports teams, weather, pollution and corruption by public officials."

And so on. If you look at it from the objective numbers like that, NYC does not look like a great place to live "on paper."

What does surprise me is, how does NYC or Chicago make the list, but Baltimore does not? Talk about a dump for a city. I would live in most of the cities they listed over Baltimore.

Will
05-29-2010, 07:19 AM
The people are rude, the cost of living is high,

Looks like someone has never been the the north east. :O

Mr Hyde
05-29-2010, 11:44 PM
^ especially when you look at how welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, etc each constitute about 1 percent of the total government spending.

That's not true.

2010 government spending across all levels (fed, state, local) is projected at 6504.7 billion dollars.

"Welfare" alone is 750.5 billion dollars. That's well over 10% of all spending, and doesn't take in to account federal spending on medical and educational aid that is given as social services. I did a rough estimate and figured with that thrown in, it's 1160.0 billion dollars, which is over 17% of total government spending.

In other words, if a guy takes you to VIP and you make 200 bucks off that bump and grind, $35 of that goes to food stamps, housing vouchers, etc for people that aren't working.

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/welfare_budget_2010_4.html#usgs30270

BeatrixKiddo
07-14-2010, 02:19 PM
Just when I thought I couldn't get any more depressed about living in Misery...ahem, I mean Missouri.

I'm definitely motivated to get the hell out of the God-forsaken Bible Belt...ironic, huh?

mandy216
07-14-2010, 04:13 PM
Just when I thought I couldn't get any more depressed about living in Misery...ahem, I mean Missouri.

I'm definitely motivated to get the hell out of the God-forsaken Bible Belt...ironic, huh?


I agree get out of the Bible Belt but avoid the Rustbelt too!!LOL
Cleveland fails in so many ways. I must be crazy to still be here!!
At least we are #1 at something :/

kthnx
07-15-2010, 03:24 AM
looks like all cities that vote heavily democratic and have a large welfare class. Sorry for the politics but that is what that list looks like to me.

i agree. my city has one of the highest city wage taxes in the country and i know its partly due to the corrupt city administration (esp the 'ripple effects' still felt from the previous admin of a few yrs ago), and partly due to how many people are mooching welfare...including a few strippers who hide their cash in safes so they can collect benefits. i know i resent paying the city wage tax as a result, and thats considering i WORK for the govt!



yea i wasnt arguing either way. i was just citing an example of ridiculous abuse.



I used to be very against welfare, but then i lived in the Cleveland Ghetto with 3 roommates from the hood. It changed my perspective on a lot of things. I think lot of people who get really against giving aid have never really bothered to get to know some of the poorest parts of America.

heres a diff perspective. a girl i was acquaintences with in college was so poor she had to involuntarily leave college (didnt have the $ for tuition) and when things didnt improve much from there she eventually became HOMELESS (like seriously sleeping in subway cars homeless) for a while. during that time she jobsearched like crazy and STILL refused to apply for govt aid becuz she had too much pride to be a "welfare mooch", in her words!

!

pixierocksonthepole
07-18-2010, 05:58 PM
None of the cities named surprised me one bit. I was a little taken off about Flint being on there because I don't quite remember it being so bad but, I live right next to Detroit...that is no big surprise at all. Kilpatrick is a prime example for why Detroit is so lost in the underworld. What a dickhead he is. And it's really upsetting, because I lived in Detroit for a while with my mother. I have family that is moving out finally because their house has almost been broken into three different times in the last month. A radio stolen from their truck. Stray fighting dogs wandering around the neighborhood. And it is so upsetting for me because many of the homes and buildings in Detroit have such amazing architecture work done on them and it's like the people living/using them stopped caring for them and now they all look like they have become crack houses. The one my mother and I lived in...got burned down so many times in the past that they stopped rebuilding it. At the corner of that street is where the gangs like to blow up the stolen cars. Just for the hell of it.

It is so miserable. And depressing.