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charlie61
11-21-2021, 08:16 PM
I'm obsessing over rescuing another cat. I have a huge soft spot for shy cats. Like, I'm totally fine with it if i rescue a cat and hardly see it for months. Just give them a safe place to live and relax.

carmen_b
11-21-2021, 08:39 PM
I think it may have been projection ( my partners weird foot in mouth incident ).
I say that because he *knew* the time frames of my family visits will in advance.
HE " got bored " out of his own doing.

When he was having verbal diarrhea I wish I would have just said " Oh this is weird feed back because I was gone 2p.m. - 8 p.m. every day so any boredom would be on you since you knew these time commitments well ahead of time ".
Instead I was panicking and wondering if we were going to slide down a negativity slope.

I was gone about 18 hours total in three days .
He only booked himself something to do for a couple hours ( a jazz night thing that sounded nice ).

I'm going to be doing some inner work on this ( trying to figure out if he is being needy or if it's something in me that is contributing to feeling that vibe ).

chanzep
11-21-2021, 09:00 PM
Of worth you stressing about. If he's bored that's his business. It's good that you told him about your triggers. I hope you had a good time with your family.

carmen_b
11-21-2021, 10:45 PM
^ I couldn’t let it go so we re-hashed it an hour ago. :/
He admitted it was possibly a mistimed conversation.
You think ?!? I was sitting there so happy and content cuddling on the couch before the convo !

While I really HATE complaining ( especially not quickly followed by ideas ) I don't want to brush him off.

I think we are butting heads on the sexual frequency issue overall .
I'm in a place currently where I can't really offer more than 3 times a week roughly without feeling agitated and burdened *but* maybe there are some solutions like doing some heavy self care in the week . I have scheduled my fitness but not really other self care ( it's just missing ). I outright told him that he can't take ALL my energy to the point where I have none left for myself and I needed help brainstorming.

I am admittedly worried and refuse to be inauthentic ( I won't pretend to want to be sexual if I don't really want to ). I feel like that could get into an abusive vibe. I find the feedback difficult because we keep up the same pace as the start of the relationship ( he had limited schedule just like now AND we still find time a few days a week ) . I don't feel like I "turned off the tap" per say. It's similar in pace as 17-18 months ago. I'm *concerned* today but don't feel like we are that far off from a meeting in the middle point. I mean .... maybe I can find the energy 4 times a week if it would keep the peace but I don't want to feel any sense of forcing the issue. We have tried to talk it out ourselves but might need to bring a therapist in to go over some things.

I'll book my self care first and see if it gets my energy up a bit .

indiegirl
11-22-2021, 08:00 AM
I've been dreading Thanksgiving and they're starting to catch on. I've been getting more silent in my texts trying to avoid going once again. I hate socializing unless I'm paid for it. It feels like a waste of my time and people lose their patience with my excuses to avoid going to social functions. Socializing feels unproductive and similar to small talk....brutally exhausting. It's only 2 hours I would have to endure but the logical part of my head thinks "why can't we just eat a 5 dollar pre-made meal from the grocery store at home instead of wasting money at a restaurant driving all the way to Newport Beach?" Extroverts are too much.

The same goes for people who constantly want to go to the movies when I think "Why can't we just stream it online from home for free from someone who illegally uploaded it?" Wasting 10 dollars on a movie ticket plus pricey snacks and gas costs is being wasteful.

My brain is weird.

I tried to push myself to do this event but mannn I'm not wanting to go.

carmen_b
11-22-2021, 08:30 AM
^ I'm glad we are keeping it low key. We will either do a simple meal ( like just ham and potatoes / veggie ) or order something the DAY BEFORE . So glad my partner isn't pressuring with some large outing or elaborate plan.

I see why you don't want to go to in a way. I think it mean to have people working on a holiday so I can't enjoy that out of guilt .

WendiStarr
11-22-2021, 11:42 AM
I like reading Literotica sometimes because the only action I get other than my vibrator is the ob/gyn sticking his fingers up there for a pelvic exam all the damn time it seems because I'm high risk pregnancy again.

charlie61
11-22-2021, 12:45 PM
I'm obsessing over rescuing another cat. I have a huge soft spot for shy cats. Like, I'm totally fine with it if i rescue a cat and hardly see it for months. Just give them a safe place to live and relax.

I did it! Picking him up on 12/4. I hate waiting!!

whirlerz
11-22-2021, 12:53 PM
I did it! Picking him up on 12/4. I hate waiting!!

Aw!
That's great, when I adopted my last bun, I had to wait also, she'd just been spayed (they get cancer otherwise) they wanted her to recover.

LoveyD
11-22-2021, 03:27 PM
I noticed in the safe parking where I've been staying there is a mom and daughter now. The daughter must be about 4. I'm grateful I was able to keep a roof over my son's head until he turned 18. It would have been awful if I had to sleep at safe parking with my son. I feel so bad for that mom and daughter. Who knows how they wound up there. A lot of us are there to flee abusive homes and just don't have the money to get our own places yet.

carmen_b
11-22-2021, 06:42 PM
Just admit you were wrong J.
It’ll all flow and get back into orbit.

I just can’t not believe he would bitch for “ only “ getting attention 2 days out of the four my family was here. I am still so appalled by it.
I mean ... I guess we didn’t have much that week if you count a week starting at Monday but I remember sexy times the Sunday before the week start too.

I think I should be allowed to have a busy week ( here and there ) without him melting down . It is not EVERY week ! Sorry for so much on the topic ugh ! It hasn’t even been 48 hours. Maybe calm vibes will come....

chanzep
11-22-2021, 07:07 PM
Hopefully you will feel better soon but you have every right to feel how you do. You seem to be very considerate in your relationship. You did nothing wrong he is being a brat.
I also agree you shouldn't do it if not in the mood . Hopefully things will sooth out.

carmen_b
11-22-2021, 07:31 PM
^^ Thanks ! I’m hoping.
I am on the fence about asking for counseling.
I do realize I need to give it 4-5 days and it hasn’t even been two days.
Last week had it quirks. His daughter stayed home 2 of 3 school days M-W.
It was that covid scare situation in her classroom. Typing it out is reminding me it wasn’t ALL my fault !
We didn’t really have much alone time to work with earlier in the week ( no ones fault ).
I wish it was clear to BOTH of us that this is hardly a “ disaster “ ... it was just a busy week.

charlie61
11-22-2021, 08:14 PM
Carmen, that would shock me, too, because every real relationship goes through natural ebbs and flows depending on so many factors. It's like, some people in relationships get diagnosed with cancer and don't have sex for months... could you not handle that?? I know that's dramatic, but my mind would be going there. Even a few weeks of less sex (due to family obligations, stress, whatever) shouldn't be a big enough deal in a long-term relationship to say something about it, as long as it's not due to issues in the relationship itself.

Maybe he just voiced a passing thought and didn't mean to emphasize it the way it was received? Idk. Would be a huge turnoff for me.

carmen_b
11-22-2021, 08:30 PM
Yeah I am not thrilled to due to *overall context* of things ( given most weeks where we are at that 3 times or so mark maybe more sometimes ).
I literally wish I had kept tabs now but I don’t have that info ! I’d say we safely average three times a week .
I already *am* experiencing a health issue. My bladder pain thing can kick up during penetrative sex so we made adjustments to only go for that a couple times a week ( he was good about the adjusting ). He has never pestered me in a high pain week . He has been really good about that overall .
I have that fear though.
I’m trying to not assume anything .

I have tried to look up some articles / tips.

LoveyD
11-22-2021, 11:25 PM
I'm glad to hear he's been cooperative regarding bladder pain. The last thing you need is someone selfishly pushing you to do more when you aren't feeling well.

miss.a.p1600
11-23-2021, 07:17 AM
^Men are NOTORIOUS for gaslighting women when they’re in pain.

Especially when you tell them you can’t have sex cause you’re in pain.

I feel you cause L hassled me daily about getting the damn vaccine. Well I’m not working around the public n I don’t go out n I order online so I didn’t think I needed the vaccine as bad as he did.

Well turns out I have constant pain I can only attribute to the vaccine. And when I’m feeling pain, I’m trying to aloe I ate my pain not alleviate his carnal desires.

Hope you find a resolution and your dude will be a bit more understanding of your perspective

carmen_b
11-23-2021, 08:22 AM
^ Thanks. I’ve calmed down a *bit*.
He was acting disappointed but I guess it did end there.
We probably both over reacted if I'm being honest.
It wasn’t high pressure or anything like that. He didn’t suggest we just go forward .

I have talked to him openly now about how I consider pouting to be getting into a “ grey “ line that could lean towards abuse. I mean it’s all *context*! If I had a habit of sex starving him like only offering sex once a week for months and months and he didn’t get his one time that week ... that would be different !!

I haven’t decided on the therapy thing.
He did say he wants more ( not in a high pressure way ) .
He just wouldn’t be opposed to 5 times a week and I’m just not there.

carmen_b
11-23-2021, 08:25 AM
^ With the pain I have *thought* of using the excuse but I never have.
I only say I’m in pain when I really am.
I want my partner to have a real gauge of pain days per month .
I don’t want to be just excusing myself over ( faking ) pain. On a good month I might only have 1-3 painful days. A bad one could be 7 days or so . I have many good days.

carmen_b
11-23-2021, 10:48 AM
THANKS for talking out these thoughts with me ladies !
I'm a little *less* mad but I feel " eh " in terms of wanting to grab him and head to bed.
I am hoping my natural horniness will kick in and save us but it doesn't seem to be kicking in today.

We missed our window today and his daughter is home tomorrow .
By the way WTF the holiday isn’t until Thurs.! It seems like this school always lets them out way too early for everything.

There is something about complaining that is my instant lady boner killer .
Hopefully if it STOPS and gratitude and compliments are offered we can turn a good direction.

I am little resentful honestly missing my two day window to dance ( yesterday and today ). I can use the money right now since day job work is slow but we were spending all that time circling. I felt so guilty leaving.
I’m going to aim for M-W next week even though I’d normally only do two days. I’m feeling unsettled but not desperate for $ . I just want to see some consistency. The day job is very inconsistent right now.

Aurora_Sunset
11-23-2021, 06:58 PM
I've hit a weird point in my depression where I can't... picture my future... at all.

Not in a SI way - nothing like that.

But, like, I used to be able to imagine myself in different scenarios. Different jobs, different hobbies, getting out of where I am currently, having a different life in some way... and I could fully PICTURE that, even if, somewhere deep inside, I didn't believe that I would ever do the thing. I could still fantasize about it. Now, every time I try to think about the future, I can't. If I say to myself, "picture your dream life," it's like a big, black, blank square in my brain. There's nothing there. Nothing I aspire to. If I actively force myself to picture being in a certain job or devoting myself to something, I will almost immediately resort to thoughts of, "Wow, fuck, I don't wanna do that. That seems awful. That's work I'm not willing to put in. There's probably so much crap that comes along with that."

When I used to come up with some new "track" for my life, I usually could ride that high for awhile. Now, I max out at probably a week, and then dismiss it. Nothing seems worth the trouble. It's like I've tried so many things in my life, and thought, "I'm getting my life together" so many times, only to have it not happen, that I don't even believe myself anymore.

WendiStarr
11-23-2021, 07:51 PM
I tried to sign up on FetLife again. I was planning on using it to find a sub man into the pillow princess thing and pregnancy. Apparently the site won't let me create an account again because last time I only used it for promoting my cam persona. I tried POF but ended up deleting my account after 2 hours because it seemed like the guys that messaged were only looking to collect pictures and not do anything else. Tinder seemed like nobody was reading my profile and just sending generic messages. I don't want to fuck. I just want oral. Lame. Maybe I'd have better luck at a lesbian website except the belly. I don't think lesbian women would be into a pregnant belly. The universe is against me having any pleasure, I guess.

carmen_b
11-23-2021, 07:57 PM
^ Oh ! I found one of my subs on POF and the other on Tinder. :)
That sounded more exciting ( I saw them in different time frames to clarify )
Omg I love men who serve. Swoons.

One of my ultimate life goals is to get a subbie for my forest property ( I have a partner now so this is off the table for now ha ).
Anyway, I dream that sub boy will make my tea , get a fire going, and unpack all my stuff when I get there . Maybe will offer a massage. Maybe a ton of compliments. Then of course lick. :)
Then he will say THANK YOU for allowing him to be there.

Sends you ALL the great sub vibes. :)

Clearly I haven't thought of this scenario at ALL.

charlie61
11-23-2021, 07:57 PM
I've hit a weird point in my depression where I can't... picture my future... at all.

Not in a SI way - nothing like that.

But, like, I used to be able to imagine myself in different scenarios. Different jobs, different hobbies, getting out of where I am currently, having a different life in some way... and I could fully PICTURE that, even if, somewhere deep inside, I didn't believe that I would ever do the thing. I could still fantasize about it. Now, every time I try to think about the future, I can't. If I say to myself, "picture your dream life," it's like a big, black, blank square in my brain. There's nothing there. Nothing I aspire to. If I actively force myself to picture being in a certain job or devoting myself to something, I will almost immediately resort to thoughts of, "Wow, fuck, I don't wanna do that. That seems awful. That's work I'm not willing to put in. There's probably so much crap that comes along with that."

When I used to come up with some new "track" for my life, I usually could ride that high for awhile. Now, I max out at probably a week, and then dismiss it. Nothing seems worth the trouble. It's like I've tried so many things in my life, and thought, "I'm getting my life together" so many times, only to have it not happen, that I don't even believe myself anymore.

This is a long shot, but I've been reading a lot about how ADHD presents in adult women, and your post reminded me a lot of that. An inability to commit to career paths, associated depression from the lack of direction, no hobbies, etc. I can definitely relate and have thought about asking a doctor if i might have undiagnosed ADHD. If i do, then a lot of my symptoms are masked by anxiety, making me very high-functioning.

Sometimes it can be SO HARD to assess yourself as an adult, because you're questioning, "do i really relate to X? Or do i just relate to everything?" But childhood behaviors can offer clues. For example, I've always had a HUGE procrastination issue. Huge. All the way through college, i wouldn't even start on major assignments until the night before they were due, sometimes even going to bed and waking up at 2:00am to start and finish them. Same thing for studying for tests. I was a great student due to my desire to please others, and because cramming worked exceedingly well for me. I told myself that i was just doing that to challenge myself, but i seriously wonder if this was one of many ADHD red flags. That's just a small example of many, not sure if you relate...

Folks with ADHD often have histories of eating disorders, depression, anxiety, even binge drinking and drug use. These more obvious issues can mask the real, underlying problem.

carmen_b
11-23-2021, 08:02 PM
^ I was going to add Aurora that I could *see* feeling directionless and " futureless " as a presentation for depression.
When mine kicks up it mostly gives me an exhausted fog like feeling. I'm functional typically so this is more internal . To other people I just look ..... lazy ( because I'm not " sad " or " upset " doing acting out behaviors ).
I *think* I remember you mentioning consider medication a try but have you tried any by chance ?

I ask because I have had great luck so far on a small dose of wellbutrin. For those who " present " with exhaustion as the main symptom it can be worth a try ( but there are MANY you can talk to a Dr. about ). I would say to see your Dr. and get a referral to a specialist . I feel like depression is something you need to fight HARD back at. The right TEAM ( Dr. + a therapist ) may help you be able to see some improvement. Life shouldn't have to be just endured and there should be SOME bright spots even if things are hard at times !

charlie61
11-23-2021, 08:11 PM
^i really get the sense from aurora that she's more like me, where depression is a symptom of a different issue. I'm 'depressed' because i can't stay interested in any hobbies, for example, not even something simple like cooking. I sometimes even lose patience when making toast and just stop the process before it's finished. I'll start chopping a vegetable and will immediately be so distracted / unfocused on what I'm doing that i could accidentally cut myself. It's like, wtf is wrong with me?

I'll get INTENSELY interested in something for a day or a week and then COMPLETELY stop caring about it afterwards. That can feel pretty depressing.

Not saying you're wrong, of course, i have no clue. It could just be depression. Just mentioning it based on relating to so many of her posts.

indiegirl
11-23-2021, 08:22 PM
I made up a lie to my dad that I was going to Hawaii with my mom so I could avoid a pre-thanksgiving meal with him that was supposed to be today. He always talks about his sugar babies, his lame sugar baby movie god knows it's at a level below straight to dvd LOLLL, uncomfortable conversations that aren't appropriate, etc. even to the point my brother told the planners not to let my dad talk at his wedding over the microphone. My dad is fine to text over the phone but damn a narcissistic lawyer in person is a very different situation.

I appreciate when he helped me in court and purchased a nice gift card for his birthday at a 5 star restaurant but damn.....he is not an easy person to get along with unless it is dealing with law.

My dad decided to call my sister about this Hawaii trip and he said, "I think she is making it up and I will be around and I do expect to see her for lunch." LOLLLL.

chanzep
11-23-2021, 08:25 PM
Miss P do not let that man or anyone pressure you to take another vaccine. I remember you saying you had a bad reaction before. Trust your body and instincts. It's your choice . Is he going to pay your bills if you get hospitalised.I have seen all reactions personally from nothing to death. Also a baby of someone who had almost died after breastfeeding. Everyone is different so don't let anyone pressure you .

chanzep
11-23-2021, 08:28 PM
Why can't my stupid job give us Friday off as well. I'm going to sit there eating leftovers the whole time.
I'm not sure I want to go out for Thanksgiving. I will be tired the next day after socializing and I prefer the dinner I cook.I just want to eat and watch football all day.

SnuffleUffleGrass
11-24-2021, 10:49 AM
Confession- I'm going to throw a tantrum if my boyfriend won't go with me to get food at the grocery store. He keeps me around because of my cooking prowess but is bitchy about having to go get groceries. Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

carmen_b
11-24-2021, 11:22 AM
^ If you cooking send him with a list. :)
Cooking takes skill !

Aurora_Sunset
11-24-2021, 06:37 PM
Thanks for the replies, guys. I haven't tried any medication or therapy yet - financial roadblocks, mostly. As far as ADHD goes, I kinda wonder, because I've been seeing a LOT recently on ADHD symptoms and undiagnosed ADHD in adult women that I resonate really strongly with. But then other things, I don't, so I'm like, "mmm, maybe I'm just over-self-diagnosing." But it could be like you mentioned, charlie, anxiety taking over and making me appear "functioning" because of it. It's definitely something for me to look into more.

miss.a.p1600
11-24-2021, 07:39 PM
Bertha coming to get her kids!!!!


Hallelujah!!!! …. Amen!

miss.a.p1600
11-25-2021, 07:35 AM
Bertha coming to get her kids!!!!


Hallelujah!!!! …. Amen!

now he’s saying “ima let the kids decide”

Im am absolutely sick of him AND his kids at this point.

I couldn’t get my edibles cause his ass was rushing me yesterday while I was out holiday shopping.

Anyways. I’m already over thanksgiving and ready for him and his kids to leave.

indiegirl
11-25-2021, 08:38 AM
Ahhhh I couldn't keep up with all the requests last night. Seriously I am celebrating Thanksgiving a few days later because it is always wild as fuck the day before Thanksgiving and the day of with making money. There's a lot of people who have to tolerate family and want an outlet. The best money is on holidays. Even in the strip club it was busy for me in the past and I would leave with 2k.

I'm trying to leave with 2500 or 3000 because I'm an elderly woman ready for an electric wheelchair LOLLL and that is my maximum. Man I make my living off of mostly asian as well as white men lol!!

miss.a.p1600
11-25-2021, 08:46 AM
^When I did adult work I always worked holidays cause when Bubbles was resting n relaxing, I was cleaning up!

Pretty much no or minimal competition.

Sometimes when everyone is doing something (like taking a vacation) it is lucrative to do the opposite.

indiegirl
11-25-2021, 08:52 AM
^When I did adult work I always worked holidays cause when Bubbles was resting n relaxing, I was cleaning up!

Pretty much no or minimal competition.

Sometimes when everyone is doing something (like taking a vacation) it is lucrative to do the opposite.


Bahaha "Bubbles"

carmen_b
11-25-2021, 08:57 AM
Miss P : I keep coming back to your story of his disorganized mess.

I know you've mentioned it to a him a couple times.
Are you sure you are REALLY hitting the point home ?
Like .... EVERY time it's last minute ...... I would throw a fit given that you have already talked about it.

I think you've got to set a time to talk and then sit down with him and warn him that it's a FINAL conversation on the topic.
There is just no damn reason he can not set a schedule 3-4 days ahead.

I feel like you are afraid to speak up on this at some level .....

I mean have you said these words :
" L we have talked about planning in advance with the house schedule . I want 3-4 days notice for everything to feel comfortable. If you don't give me this I'm going to be extremely upset. Here is the calendar. Please write down the exact schedule in the next 3-4 days . "

carmen_b
11-25-2021, 09:33 AM
Add to that :
" I need the house quiet to work. I have tried working when the kids are here but it is negatively impacting my work. "
Then offer solutions like :
* If they are there they are there during your work hours they are NOT allowed to knock at the room door or need anything from you during your working hours.
* Quiet ONLY during your working hours.

carmen_b
11-25-2021, 09:46 AM
OH I'll add that at some level Bertha might be pushing this last minute nonsense . I'm not sure but it's possible. You sometimes need to force the guy to stand up to his ex and start doing things YOUR way !

I just say that from my own experience where a couple times I have gone " This is 100% not acceptable anymore " and got the change I wanted.

Ex's can mess with each other. She might not be seeing anyone for example but she knows he is . She knows he will get " less " out of life ( not able to plan weekend trips away for example ) if it's all last minute.

miss.a.p1600
11-25-2021, 10:09 AM
^never thought of it that way and that’s a good point!

I brought it up again this morning and even my damn mom had to tell him he was out of order.



He can keep doing it his way and he will find his ass sexless n back single again.

carmen_b
11-25-2021, 10:21 AM
^ Well you have both told him so now he is actively just doing things to make you uncomfortable if it doesn't change. Ask him to " sell " you the last minute idea if it's THAT important to him. He won't be able to ! If you guys go to therapy about this the therapist will tell him to plan in advance a week minimum.

Kids shouldn't " just decide " . They should have parents creating structure.

carmen_b
11-25-2021, 10:51 AM
My updates :
I'm trying to gain peace with my partner. We seemed to have talked every day.
I do feel less sexually responsive to him when the complaining stuff started ( I was open about it a couple days ago ).
It was pouting over the sex " only " twice in that week that tipped my bucket into anger at him but admittedly he wasn't aggressive. I think we just had very different views of how that evening would happen. There was a couple other complaining moments about other small things . He bought us floor tickets to this concert and I didn't want to be crowded or dance .... I wanted a seat. I'll dance when I'm being paid , thanks ! I wanted a seat and told him I was going to find one , ha! He was free to stay and get crowded on that floor .
The concert was a thing that I heard WAY too much about. :(

I'm going to try to end this battle before it becomes a war . :)
I won't tolerate complaining.
This recent 6 day sex diet might be enough " point making " .
I will now end my stand off in the battle.

carmen_b
11-25-2021, 10:55 AM
^ Want life smooth with me ?
DON'T BITCH.
It's unattractive.

Attractive = planning dates , offering compliments , ect.!
The stuff that gets you good luvin at the start of a relationship still works in an established one. :)

Time to move forward though ....

miss.a.p1600
11-25-2021, 06:16 PM
^youd think men would get a clue. They can be boneheads sometimes

carmen_b
11-26-2021, 09:47 AM
^ I can't cut him off for weeks on end though, ha !
So I'm attempting to come up with some peace. :)

I may have to drag him to therapy if these requests that I be more " lively " or energetic ect. are not handled with a little more tact.
I could give him *shit* for not doing more wellness like I do ( yoga / meditation / inner work ) .
I am not running around being critical because ..... it seems like a bad idea.
It seems like a good idea to let partners be themselves. :/

It's just part of the trade I'm afraid.
I simply don't like party environments unless I'm $$cashing$$ in.
I can give *somewhat* like of course go out on the town together ( dinner or a drink ect. ) but there are just certain pieces I can't give on ( large crowds and staying up late are not an option very often for me unless cash is involved ). I hope I am not being too inflexible but I feel really strongly on these things.

miss.a.p1600
11-26-2021, 10:36 AM
^i feel ya.

I think the older we get the less “lively” we naturally tend to get. That’s normal.

It can be draining to be perked up on demand but some compensation (whatever that may be) may make it easier to do.

carmen_b
11-26-2021, 04:49 PM
We are having a good time today at a casino.
He’s not annoying me . Maybe it was a weird week but I think there was something valid to how I was feeling. I can’t give more energy than I have so don’t be greedy. Let me recharge. Hopefully the point was hard hitting.

charlie61
11-26-2021, 07:24 PM
I really want to start getting massages regularly, but it can be an expensive process to hunt down a massage therapist you really vibe with. I got a massage today, and it was good, but it really didn't have any soul to it, and she skipped a couple of my favorite areas that, even for us in school, were part of every full-body massage (face and scalp - i diiiie for scalp massages).

I think I'll keep trying to find someone great, just hope it happens sooner than later!

whirlerz
11-26-2021, 07:33 PM
I had, at one point, one of the best massage people ever.. Lost touch years ago.

Now, since I have permanent whiplash, I want to get some type of device to use, I have a wooden knob thing but want something better.

One of my physical therapist showed me one on Amazon..can't remember what it was.

I also can't go back to pt, using my insurance, I'd have to pay 50.00 (might've gone up since) per session.

I also wanted to go to a special sports medical pt doctor my regular doctor recommended, he does not take my insurance.