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Violet_Dawn
05-02-2010, 11:29 PM
The elite are the ones pushing homosexuality on us. Oprah, the single most influential person in the media, backs them all the way, so we can assume that her network, her employer, also does. They have a number of top rating TV shows all to themselves. The government is proposing special legislation for them, particularly "hate crime" legislation which will stop people even having a disapproving opinion of homosexuality. Over one hundred top corporations have fully conformed to the Human Rights Campaing Corporate Equality Index, which sets guidelines on homosexual workplace and hiring practices. http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/4776.htm

Not exactly haters.

The reason AIDS "targets" homosexuals is because many of them live a lifestyle which runs down their immune systems and general health. Clubbing, alcohol, several different drugs taken simultaneously, frequent sex (a number of times in one night), and anal penetration (the rectal wall is vulnerable to damage and disease and in a uniquely unhygenic area of the body). Many elites are themselves homosexuals.

As for blacks - Obama, Rice, Powell - all top elites. Martin Luther King's birthday is a national holiday. Although there is black civil rights legislation and welfare programmes, so perhaps you are right - considering the effects of these on blacks.


the hate crime legislation is being inacted to protect their civil rights. one may disapprove of homosexuality for various reasons, and that is one thing, but to be targeted for a crime (and i believe that these are usually violent crimes) simply because of your sexual orientation (whether it is factual or perceived as such) is wrong. that is the same thing as being targeted for a crime simply because you are a female, black, latino, disabled, etc... it is for protection. also to say that many lead that lifestyle is unfair and biased...you do not know that for a fact.

I think that the perception of AIDS "targeting" homosexuals is that they were the first demographic that were really known to have it...if anything AIDS is now "targeting" black women because many who are in monogamous relationships contract it due to their male partner sleeping with other men, unprotected, and bringing the disease to their gf/wife.


umm...how do you know that many "elites" are homosexual? and as a curiosity, what does MLKs bday have to do with anything?

MissShyGirl
05-02-2010, 11:40 PM
so what would you suggest as an alternative to hospital births? i am not trying to be rude, i am genuinely interested in it, as my sister is 7 months pregnant and was looking for alternatives to hospital birthing.

Getting a mid wife and doing a home birth, or even a birthing center. If she can get a midwife or doula she is set. Home birth is so much better for Momma and Baby. Though she may be a bit to far now. But even if she can still get a Doula they will attend a hospital birth and help you through it and help you make the right decisions in the hospital.

camille27
05-02-2010, 11:50 PM
violet, yes, anthropologically, midwives and/or doulas are the way to go.

Violet_Dawn
05-02-2010, 11:58 PM
thanks, i'll definitely tell her that.

Hopper
05-03-2010, 03:31 AM
the hate crime legislation is being inacted to protect their civil rights. one may disapprove of homosexuality for various reasons, and that is one thing, but to be targeted for a crime (and i believe that these are usually violent crimes) simply because of your sexual orientation (whether it is factual or perceived as such) is wrong. that is the same thing as being targeted for a crime simply because you are a female, black, latino, disabled, etc... it is for protection.

If it is just violent crimes that the legislation is intended to protect homosexuals from, then they are already protected from that by existing laws along with everybody else. The reason why a person is targetted for a violent crime does not affect whether those laws are enforced. Whatever form of "attack" it is, it should be penalised according to the severity of the attack, not the motive of the offender or the category of the victim.


also to say that many lead that lifestyle is unfair and biased...you do not know that for a fact.

Have you seen the size of the inside of some homosexual clubs? I've seen them on TV. They are packed wall-to-wall. That's many.



I think that the perception of AIDS "targeting" homosexuals is that they were the first demographic that were really known to have it...if anything AIDS is now "targeting" black women because many who are in monogamous relationships contract it due to their male partner sleeping with other men, unprotected, and bringing the disease to their gf/wife.


I used "targetting" in quotes - because the person I responded to who claimed that the elite were targetting homosexuals - and blacks - with AIDS, which he said they also engineered for the purpose.


umm...how do you know that many "elites" are homosexual?

http://www.steveyuhas.com/columns/gayappointments.htm
http://www.palmcenter.org/press/dadt/releases/military_analysts_see_progress_in_gay_pentagon_app ointee_opposition_to_gay_hire_seen_as_beyond_the_b ounds


and as a curiosity, what does MLKs bday have to do with anything?

It must have been inaugurated by decree of elites. Again, this was in response to the claim that the elite are targetting blacks with AIDS.

Trem
05-03-2010, 06:44 AM
If it is just violent crimes that the legislation is intended to protect homosexuals from, then they are already protected from that by existing laws along with everybody else. The reason why a person is targetted for a violent crime does not affect whether those laws are enforced. Whatever form of "attack" it is, it should be penalised according to the severity of the attack, not the motive of the offender or the category of the victim.


Bullshit, motive does count in the severity of the crime. That's why we have different types of murder charges. Killing someone because you caught them fucking your wife is not the same as killing someone in order to terrorize an entire population.

sxcbbw
05-03-2010, 10:45 AM
Hopper, seeing a gay club on TV does not give you the right to say that gay man en masse club all night, fuck all night, get jacked up and sleep around.

All the gay clubs I've ever been to in the UK have been quieter than most of the regular clubs.

A hate crime is a hate crime.

Hopper
05-04-2010, 05:41 AM
Bullshit, motive does count in the severity of the crime. That's why we have different types of murder charges. Killing someone because you caught them fucking your wife is not the same as killing someone in order to terrorize an entire population.

That doesn't make an attack on a homosexual or a black worse than an attack on a straight white.

Hopper
05-04-2010, 05:47 AM
Hopper, seeing a gay club on TV does not give you the right to say that gay man en masse club all night, fuck all night, get jacked up and sleep around.

I didn't say all. But many do. TV is the only way I get to see homosexual clubs, not being homosexual myself. Just looking at the free homosexual street mags tells me that there are many in that lifestyle - that's the audience the content of these mags is obviously designed to cater for.



All the gay clubs I've ever been to in the UK have been quieter than most of the regular clubs.


I didn't say that all homosexuals club hard either, or that all clubs are the same. I don't see why a girl would go to the hard-core kind. Are you saying there aren't any like that in the UK?


A hate crime is a hate crime.

What other sort of crime is there?

Trem
05-04-2010, 08:33 AM
That doesn't make an attack on a homosexual or a black worse than an attack on a straight white.

Yes it does, when a straight white is murdered it is not done to intimidate every other straight white in the country. It is the same reason terrorist acts are prosecuted under different rules than simple murder, when you are committing a crime in order to terrorize a whole group of people that is a worse crime than just killing someone because they pissed you off.

StripperWeb
05-04-2010, 09:42 AM
Okay, everyone. I'm closing it down. It's getting a little heated and a lot off topic. We'll just end it before it turns ugly! :)