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Mr Hyde
05-05-2010, 01:45 PM
not to dissuade you but I kind of side with Charlie on this...I'd be really nervous about getting surgery done by some Mexican border town doctor. I know it's practically a suburb of San Diego but Tijuana? That sounds like trouble.

Then again, you live there and know more about it than I do...

Zinaida
05-05-2010, 02:08 PM
sugartoes has cute sandals

charlie61
05-05-2010, 02:09 PM
^ Very true! :)

Zinaida
05-05-2010, 02:12 PM
Either way wish me luck heehee!

charlie61
05-05-2010, 02:14 PM
^ Good luck sweetie!!

Mr Hyde
05-05-2010, 02:24 PM
Either way wish me luck heehee!

When do you want to have this done Z? I can't wait to see the results. You have two of my favorite breasts in the world...heh.

Zinaida
05-05-2010, 02:40 PM
cream cheese cake is good.

Mr Hyde
05-05-2010, 03:03 PM
If you're gonna go through all of that time and expense, and use an out of country doctor, have you thought about just flying to some other country where the the whole thing is less expensive and you can just get the size you want right now?

charlie61
05-05-2010, 03:05 PM
I've heard Costa Rica and Taiwan are great for medical vacations?

Zinaida
05-05-2010, 03:40 PM
weeee!

Mr Hyde
05-05-2010, 04:29 PM
Cool...just throwing the idea out. You still thinking about doing a cross country stripping trip this summer?

Zinaida
05-05-2010, 04:39 PM
holy mackerel

Melonie
05-08-2010, 05:10 AM
Technically speaking, it is really only the US ... and by fallout of dependence on US medical device suppliers, Canada ... that have effectively 'outlawed' large breast implants. The large implants were indirectly outlawed when the US FDA instituted a requirement a few years ago that every different size of implant constitutes a different medical device, thus every different size of implant must undergo expensive FDA approval testing in order to be legal for use in US medical facilities. With FDA approval costs approaching 1/2 million dollars per implant size model, and with the prospect of very low volume demand for implants rated at 1000cc or larger to offset the 1/2 million dollar FDA testing cost necessary to be able to sell them, all of the implant manufacturers simply pulled their larger models out of the US catalogs.

For a fact, most European countries have no problem whatsoever with custom breast implants in any size. In fact, the premier producer of large custom breast implants is P.I.P. which is located in France. But as you correctly summize, these implants are made to order thus involving some $6000 in implant costs ( if you order 3 in order to have a spare ) as well as several months worth of wait after the custom implant order is placed. You are correct in assuming that even though foreign implant manufacturers are able to produce custom implants in larger sizes, they do not 'stock' such large implants. This is not only due to the comparatively low demand for larger sizes, but also because girls requesting large custom implants often want specific shapes / profiles / extra features added. I would also add that a new source of large custom implants is now available from Hong Kong ... see

P.I.P and V&J Technology also make custom implants with extra features ... one such feature being that the implants are adjustable in size AFTER they have been 'installed' ... via the injection of additional saline solution ( or silicone gel in the case of V&J) through a special filler port built into the custom implants. With adjustable implants, its possible to custom order a set rated for say 1500cc ... have them 'installed' only filled to say 1000cc ( in order to avoid overstressing the breast skin ) ... but then injecting an extra 250cc every 3 months or so ( as the breast skin adapts ) to wind up with overfilled 2000cc implants a year later without any additional surgeries or costs !

http://www.stripperweb.com/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=6317

In fact, a German 'acquaintance' of mine got a set of P.I.P. custom adjustable implants about a year ago, and has gradually been able to fill them up to the point where she is now starting to draw a lot of attention and earning a whole lot of money !!!




From the standpoint of a purely 'business' discussion, with the introduction of the FDA implant regulations a few years ago and the consequent 'outlawing' of implants larger than ~800cc rating to US girls, today there are essentially zero new American girls competing in the 'big boob fetish' niche of the dancing / featuring / modeling business. The remaining American girls who are still working this niche market are all getting older - and it shows ( no offense intended, but you can't stop time ) . This in turn has opened the door for new competition from younger european girls like my 'friend' from Germany. However, foreign girls are limited in their ability to actually physically work within the USA ( thanks to Patriot Act legal requirements limiting such work to US citizens and green card holders), thus the competition they represent is primarily via websites and foreign produced magazines / videos.

However, if a particular American girl already has the connections with a good plastic surgeon who is located outside the US / Canadian FDA implant size restrictions, and that plastic surgeon has the connections for ordering custom made adjustable implants, and if that American girl was interested in maximizing her industry earnings potential ( and doesn't mind 'standing out' to do it LOL ), that American girl could theoretically become the only 'new blood' in the US 'big boob fetish' market i.e. US club feature gigs, US big boob magazines and videos etc. !!! And by pure coincidence, a significant portion of those magazines and video producers are located in SoCal !!!

Don't mind my ramblings ...

~

Love Technician
05-08-2010, 10:23 AM
As far as sub-par work, need I remind you that you can find plenty of that within the borders of this country? I have seen great Mexican boob jobs, I have seen bad Mexican boob jobs, I have seen great American boob jobs, I have seen bad American boob jobs. In Mexico, like the US, it all depends on who you go to.

Also, if I end up not liking Dr. Fuentes for whatever reason when I meet him on Tuesday I spoke with a doctor in the Lake Tahoe region who could do my breasticles. ;);)

Actually, Dr Fuentes is certified by the American Society of Plastic Surgery, in addition to his Mexican credentials. He is known to produce very good work, and a lot of clients from Southern California cross the border for his services. There is a website called www.plasticsurgeryjourneys.com that you may find useful... all information about traveling to different countries for plastic surgery, and Dr Fuentes is the most popular one in the Mexico forum. I personally have know 3 ladies who have gone to him and are happy with their results. Plastic surgery is very popular in Central and South America....some of the best doctors come from Venezuela, Colombia and Brazil. I actually had my 2nd BA in Ecuador and received far better post-op care than I did for my 1st surgery here in Canada. As with any doctor though, it's best to look up their credentials, communicate your needs, and feel comfortable. And since you are in SoCal, it will be easier for you to travel back for post op checkups or if you need to see the doctor again.
Good Luck!
LT

Zinaida
05-08-2010, 09:25 PM
only pot pies i like are beef.

Zinaida
05-08-2010, 09:29 PM
Melonie ramble all you want, hell ramble more! You are a greatly appreciated wealth of knowledge.


And by pure coincidence, a significant portion of those magazines and video producers are located in SoCal !!!

Ooh I really didn't think of this. Sometimes I fail to be aware of/take advantage of my area, I forget that I'm in quite the hot spot!

Christyismyalias
05-10-2010, 01:57 AM
OMG Lexi that site is crazy... some of those pics made my jaw drop for reeeeal
http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Zena_Fulsom (not real)

http://www.boobpedia.com/boobs/Norma_Stitz

4everresolutions
05-10-2010, 03:32 AM
I normally LOVE me some big-boobies, but those two...are kind of nasty....at least in my view.

Melonie
05-10-2010, 04:31 PM
for the record, Zena has 'glue on' boobs made of foam rubber, and Norma Stitz has Norma Severythingelse ! These girls were 'novelties' but never really successful.

Here are a few highly successful girls in the 'big tit fetish' niche market







all have now retired, and nobody new has 'risen' to take their place ... in the USA at least

KS_Stevia
05-10-2010, 04:36 PM
I know ladies who have gone to Dr. Fuentes and have been very pleased.

paladine
05-10-2010, 04:39 PM
It's pretty crazy you women do breast implants. What I always wondered is how much research you all do before you do it. How many of you know beforehand that every 10 years your going to have to get them redone because no implant lasts forever.

Every decade you have to get that horrible surgery done and recuperate for what a month afterward? I mean damn....

KS_Stevia
05-10-2010, 05:29 PM
This dude needs to GTFO.

Melonie
05-11-2010, 03:14 AM
^^^ actually I never worried about the 10 year implant life, because after every couple of years my 'boobie greed' ... as well as my desire for higher earnings ... had me back at the plastic surgeon's office to 'trade in' my old implants for new and even bigger ones !!! And while the first surgery can be painful with a long recovery, once the breast pocket for implants has already been created during the first surgery it's far less painful and far faster recovering when all the surgeon does is place a new and larger implant back into the same breast pocket. And with adjustable implants, there isn't any additional surgery required to add extra saline ... just an injection into the implant's filler valve.

charlie61
05-11-2010, 10:15 AM
It's pretty crazy you women do breast implants. What I always wondered is how much research you all do before you do it. How many of you know beforehand that every 10 years your going to have to get them redone because no implant lasts forever.

Every decade you have to get that horrible surgery done and recuperate for what a month afterward? I mean damn....

I think it was very nice for Mr. Paladine to address these issues. The dumb stripperz does have problems searching the interwebz for such information. We are lucky to have such selflessly helpful informants on our little forum here.

Zinaida
05-11-2010, 10:20 AM
Just ignore him, he's a weirdo.

rubyredlipsss
05-11-2010, 10:25 AM
seriously, everything he posts is so ignorant. but to topic, there was a girl on this board who went across the border for her implants and everything came out just fine. my only advice would be to try to find a way to travel as safely as possible to tj and back. i've been there a bunch of times but not recently since the drug wars and taxi cabs can be shady but you're smart so i'm sure you're figuring out all those details just fine and be safe ;)

paladine
05-11-2010, 10:51 AM
I think it was very nice for Mr. Paladine to address these issues. The dumb stripperz does have problems searching the interwebz for such information. We are lucky to have such selflessly helpful informants on our little forum here.

I never called any of you " dumb stripperz ". I just asked how many of you do some actual research into the subject. I've asked lots of women who have gotten them and very few knew that they had to be replaced every ten years.

Its your body for f'ks sake. I was just curious how many of the women on HERE have done the research.

As to the two bitches who followed your post, you can f'k off too. You people are way too defensive.

Zinaida
05-11-2010, 11:02 AM
Go away weirdo. *yawns*

rubyredlipsss
05-11-2010, 11:13 AM
it's what you imply that makes you sound like you're calling dumb and say ohhh i wasn't calling you that, but then proceed to call us bitches. you obviously don't get the point of this forum. as a new member i suggest you stay out of the pink side trying to offer your 'advice' to women who are obviously more knowledgeable than you are on many subjects. try the blue side, i'm sure you'll have better success. and don't tell us to fuck off on OUR forum. you're new, get out of the pink side until you learn how things work. and when you do come back don't be surprised if you still get the beatdown.

okay i'm bored now.

so z, any word on what you're gonna do? are you leaning towards dr. fuentes? at this point you've done your research and if it were me i would just go with my intuition. ya know?

Melonie
05-11-2010, 11:55 AM
I just asked how many of you do some actual research into the subject. I've asked lots of women who have gotten them and very few knew that they had to be replaced every ten years.

since 'strippers' usually depend on their breast implants to help them earn a living, I can assure you that most if not all 'strippers' do a significant amount of research. Also, because of the additional 'abuse' that implants are subjected to by pole dancing and working out, the 10 year median life for saline implants is actually closer to 7 years for 'strippers'. However, you did not mention that silicone implants have an expected lifespan that is double that of saline implants ... simply because abrasive saline wears at the implant bag at a much faster rate than slippery silicone !



o z, any word on what you're gonna do? are you leaning towards dr. fuentes? at this point you've done your research and if it were me i would just go with my intuition. ya know?

oh right ... today was the day for her consult in TJ ! I'm betting that she's going to commit to the 'serious professional dancer' idea and hook herself up with a set of large custom implants !

Zinaida
05-11-2010, 12:43 PM
only soups i like are beef too.

Melonie
05-11-2010, 02:51 PM
are you going to go with the adjustable size saline implants ?

Zinaida
05-11-2010, 05:29 PM
Nope, looks like I'm going with 1200cc silicones. My doctor doesn't even think the company he orders from would even make XL salines and even if they did he says he wouldn't use them, and he also said that my incisions for the silicone wouldn't be humongous, he is confident that he can go within the limits of my first scars and has done many XL breast augs. So I am very happy about that!

... Adjustables may be my next endeavor!

I won't know what type of profile I will be getting, his assistant needs to check to see if they even make anything other than moderates. She said that this company can be pretty strict on what they will custom-make since they basically have a monopoly.

I put 4k down on my 5k total. ;D

Oh, and it's not Dr. Fuentes! I have been mistaken this whole time, I'm seeing Dr. Quiroz of the same practice:

Zinaida
05-11-2010, 06:16 PM
Whut whut yo.

charlie61
05-11-2010, 06:32 PM
^ Report him to the supermod: Stripperweb

Zinaida
05-11-2010, 06:53 PM
I just put him on ignore, hopefully that will just block him from sending to me?

charlie61
05-11-2010, 06:55 PM
^ Either way, harrassment is NOT tolerated on this board. Report him without hesitation to the supermod.

Zinaida
05-11-2010, 07:04 PM
You got it sexy.

Djoser
05-11-2010, 09:38 PM
^I loves ze small boobies.

Yeah me too. I hate threads like these for that reason, but it's none of my business.


I never called any of you " dumb stripperz ". I just asked how many of you do some actual research into the subject. I've asked lots of women who have gotten them and very few knew that they had to be replaced every ten years.

Its your body for f'ks sake. I was just curious how many of the women on HERE have done the research.

As to the two bitches who followed your post, you can f'k off too. You people are way too defensive.

This, on the other hand, is my business. You didn't call them 'dumb stripperz', instead you called them bitches and told them to fuck off. I will not tolerate you getting abusive with the dancer members. Points are being given for this.

rubyredlipsss
05-11-2010, 10:04 PM
it looks like he's gone but z, did he pm you too? ::)

Djoser
05-11-2010, 10:24 PM
Gone or not, he got points. That is showing.

If you put someone on ignore, they can't send you PMs, no.

Zinaida
05-11-2010, 10:30 PM
it looks like he's gone but z, did he pm you too? ::)
Yup haha. Whateva. ::)

Melonie
05-12-2010, 02:22 AM
Nope, looks like I'm going with 1200cc silicones.

going from ~700cc to 1200cc will definitely make a noticeable difference !!! It should also allow you to 'stand out' from other dancers in virtually every US club ! You're 'off and running' !

Mindy Bares All
05-12-2010, 08:55 AM
Gah! I'm so vicariously excited! Hehehe. Those are gonna be some serious titties. ;)

Zinaida
05-12-2010, 09:01 AM
going from ~700cc to 1200cc will definitely make a noticeable difference !!! It should also allow you to 'stand out' from other dancers in virtually every US club ! You're 'off and running' !

I hope so! I'm hoping that because my implants are 630s(overfilled to 720) that I'll be making a significant jump diameter-wise with the 1200s. ;D *crosses fingerz* And if I end up getting moderate profiles I think it will make them look bigger than they would have with HPs too.

Zinaida
05-12-2010, 05:41 PM
BAD NEWS

The French company that makes these XL silicone implants has gone bankrupt. My surgeon's office told me today. The REALLY bad news is that even though they're calling around to other companies, they don't think they will have much luck. They said I will get my money back at least... Now I am basically completely screwed.

Zinaida
05-12-2010, 05:43 PM
Melonie where did your German acquaintance get her adjustables??

Melonie
05-12-2010, 07:21 PM
from PIP in France.

But keep in mind that there is now a new company in Asia that is making saline and silicone implants in custom sizes too .....

In fact, the emergence of this new company may be the reason that PIP wound up going bankrupt ( on top of the euro's currency problems, high taxes etc. ). This was also the reason that I tried to post as much information as I did BEFORE you went to your consult.

However, outside the USA, you can still get 1000cc rated saline implants from Silimed without resorting to a custom made situation ... implants that can easily be overfilled to 1200cc plus.

Zinaida
05-12-2010, 07:30 PM
My coordinator said that they went out of business do to too many lawsuits...LOL. I was thinking about the Thai possibility that you had mentioned. My coordinator is going to call me back tomorrow to see what she finds out about other companies, I'm going to ask her about V&J.

God damn it I wish I could just order them myself! Dr. Foster in Lake Tahoe says that a lot of his patients have actually acquired the implants that he placed in them through e-bay and craigslist.... I don't dare to try lol!

This guy may have to be my savior, he says he does XL augmentations. Although God knows, I've heard that before... :(



All I know is there's definitely a market for this type of thing, so someone somewhere has got to accommodate me.

Zinaida
05-12-2010, 11:32 PM
I wrote to V&J, basically asking who the hell and where the hell they supply to...not sure if they answer questions from non-medical civilians like myself...

However I may have found a loophole---but of course I may not have. I have exchanged basic correspondences with Dr. Foster(the guy in my link) for few weeks now and tonight I emailed him saying that the French company that makes custom XL silicones has gone bankrupt and out of business and that I felt completely option-less. He said he could get me 1300 or 1500cc cogels from France. I don't know how many implant manufacturers there are in France capable of making them BIG but I'm guessing not many. If he thinks he can order implants from the company that recently went down...well I'm SOL. Like my other surgeons, he might think they're still available because he hasn't had to order any recently and so hasn't heard otherwise. Or it might mean that while it's currently barely possible to get XL silicones, it may be perfectly possible to get XL cogels? He said he'd be ordering the cogels from Sebbin which apparently is "in Pont Toise just outside of Paris."

He sounded pretty certain, but then again so did my last two surgeons.

I'm gonna see what 'my people' in MX find out tomorrow. I'd still love to do it through them since it would be ridiculously cheap and so close to home! :P