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Mindy Bares All
05-13-2010, 08:32 AM
^^ I'm so sorry that happened. But it just means something better is to come of it. ;) Chin up. I hope everything works out for the best.

Zinaida
05-13-2010, 10:38 AM
Well my cogel loophole may not work out after all. I found a place in LA that can order cogels up to 1000ccs(still too small for me) from a company in Brazil, but but it takes a year for the implants to get here! W.t.f. I know Dr. Foster would not be ordering the cogels from Brazil, but still. Could take a year for French cogels too. I emailed him asking how long they'd take to arrive once ordered.

Melonie
05-13-2010, 11:06 AM
Actually there is another major implant company in france ... EuroSilicone. They actually list 1100cc rated adjustable saline implants in their standard catalog ... which could easily be overfilled to 1400-1500cc if you were so inclined ...



there non-adjustable saline and silicone standard catalog implants both stop at an 800cc rating though.

It is my understanding that foreign companies are NOT able to ship non-FDA approved implants into the USA any longer - and by definition no custom made implants can have an FDA approval. This basically leaves two options. See if the doctor in Mexico can order them for shipment into Mexico, or plan on taking a trip to France to pick them up yourself and bring them back in your luggage !!! This is where the e-bay connection comes in ! Of course if you're up for a trip to France, you could just as well have the implants put in over there and avoid hassles with US customs.

PS the 1000cc cogel thing was part of an FDA approved 'study group'. The FDA allowed X number of patients into the 'study group' and no more. Thus if the 'study group' has been filled up by now, 1000cc cogel implants are no longer going to be available within the USA since they don't have a general FDA approval ( and no implant company wants to pony up the 1/2 million bucks to file for one).

Zinaida
05-13-2010, 11:10 AM
Dr. Foster said that he would have the implants shipped to Mexico City, where they would then be shipped to Rosarita Beach(which isn't too far from me!) where I would then pick them up and carry them across the border.

However, I just called Dr. Pousti's office and the girl told me that he recently got approved to use like, 1400cc salines. I asked her if they had to be custom ordered(the bane of my existence) and she said that no, he keeps them stocked. We'll see, I have a consultation with him next Thursday. However if Dr. Foster is able to actually get me 1300cc cogels and within a reasonable amount of time I may just choose him. Although it would probably be in my best interest to stick with Dr. Pousti and the salines because if anything were to go wrong/I needed a repair, him and his salines are right where I live.

Melonie
05-13-2010, 11:15 AM
I like the sound of the 1400cc salines ... because it avoids the necessity of you having to buy a third custom implant to keep as a spare ( or wind up out of business for a year or more if a custom implant fails on you ). However, I would be very specific in asking the question of whether or not the supposed 1400cc saline implants the doctor 'stocks' are actually rated for 1400cc, or whether he really plans on overfilling an 800cc / 1000cc rated saline implant to 1400cc !!!

PS more cc's are always better in this business !!!

Zinaida
05-13-2010, 01:49 PM
^^^I was thinking that too. Although I believe that cogels have virtually no chance of leaking. But, what if in a year I am ready to switch out my implants again? If that's the case it would make more sense to stick with the the less expensive salines.

I just emailed the Pousti office asking about actual 1400cc implants vs severely overfilled 800s....

Zinaida
05-13-2010, 02:08 PM
^^ I'm so sorry that happened. But it just means something better is to come of it. ;) Chin up. I hope everything works out for the best.

I hope so babe! Thanks for the good luck. :)

Zinaida
05-13-2010, 05:07 PM
Also my peeps in MX just now said that they think they have found a way to get custom-made 1000cc Beckers with no 3-5 month wait if nothing else works out. But still, overfilling a 1000cc implant isn't going to give it the diameter of a larger-sized implant!! I wish I could just call around, research and order myself. I really believe that the only way to get something done right is to do it yourself, it's so frustrating relying on middlemen...

rubyredlipsss
05-13-2010, 08:23 PM
it's boob smuggling! i love it. :D

Zinaida
05-13-2010, 09:05 PM
it's boob smuggling! i love it. :D

I should just stuff 'em in my bra huh? Nah it'll be perfectly legal, although the implants sure would look funny going through the x-rays... :D:D

Dr. Foster just emailed me back, said that it would take about 3 months for the cogels to arrive from France to MX. He sounds pretty certain, he says knows the owner of the company in France.

I'm gonna call Dr. Pousti tomorrow morning and double check about these XL saline implants his desk girl mentioned, make sure they don't mean severely overfilled 800s!

Ben Sanderson
05-13-2010, 10:29 PM
I love HUGE implants. Like DDDs, they make for awesome sex visuals. I'm a fan of technology.

Zinaida
05-14-2010, 10:36 AM
Pousti only works with extremely overfilled 800s as feared. The girl on the phone told me that they recently overfilled an 800 bag by 1000ccs.... I'm not interested. I told the woman on the phone that overfilling still wasn't going to make the diameter any larger and she said "Nope, what it will actually do is make the implant harder." Ummm....so why would I want to switch my currents out for ever-so-slightly larger but way harder implants? She was a bitch when I told her I wasn't interested. Although I still have to go to the consultation because it's one of those 'no-show fee' places. I told her I was talking with another doctor about possibly ordering custom XL cogels and she got all snippy about how illegal it was. Well bitch, if overfilling salines by more than double is so 'legal' and a-okay why does the company revoke their warranty when you overfill it past a certain percentage(she told me)??

I'm emailing Dr. Foster, he says how much the surgery will run me depends on whether or not he needs to use expanders($7200) or if he thinks he can expand me with the 960 Mentor salines($4130). Honestly I wouldn't think I'd need expanders since with my first surgery I started with very little breast tissue and went to 720ccs. I always thought that whatever they were able to fit in you the first time, double that amount should fit in the second time. But I'm no doctor obviously! And I'm worried that if I need expanders, that that means two surgeries? Am I going to have to go home for a while with the Mentor salines(I'm assuming I won't need the serious $7200 expanders since I'm barely doubling my implant size?)? Go back when I'm stretched out?

I called, they said yes I'd have to go home with expanders for a while. How inconvenient! Looks like I'll be out of commission for longer than I was thinking too. :/

ariel1228
05-14-2010, 11:48 AM
How big are you trying to go? Like what is your cup size goal ?

Zinaida
05-14-2010, 12:07 PM
F/G. Right now I'm a C/D.

Melonie
05-14-2010, 04:05 PM
expanders and adjustable implants are essentially the same thing. Nothing says that expander / adjustable implants can't be left in place for many years ... except the doctor's wish to collect another surgery fee and another implant sales commission !!! Before getting my polypropylene string implants I had adjustable PIP implants for something like 4 years. Of course, I also kept getting them filled up more and more as time went by !

Zinaida
05-14-2010, 04:14 PM
^^^You just gave me an idea....what if instead of getting the 1300cc cogels I just got expanders instead...? I guess it would depend on what size the expanders start at. Arg so many questions!! If I get the 1300cc cogels and decide I want to go bigger, the most I can upgrade to at this time is to 1500cc cogels.

What his site says:

Achieving beautiful results with extra large breast augmentation requires the use of special techniques. To successfully accommodate breast implant sizes over 1200cc, Dr. Foster uses expanders ($7200). After a series of weekly injections ($225 each) the expanders are replaced with silicone gel implants up to 3500cc ($4310 plus the cost of the implants themselves).

Mindy Bares All
05-14-2010, 05:02 PM
^^^ I think that you and Melonie are onto something there. I think I heard that sometimes plastic surgeons used the expanders for mastectomy patients for reconstructive purposes. So in my eyes they're like 98% the same thing- 2% room for uncertainty.

Mr Hyde
05-14-2010, 07:49 PM
I don't know if this will help, but this woman (mentioned earlier in this thread) went to Brazil and got 10000 cc implants.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1450287/sheyla_hershey_owns_worlds_largest.html

Zinaida
05-15-2010, 12:13 AM
Hmmm...so apparently I'd need to use expanders until they were 10% bigger than the cogels he'd be putting in me, 3 months after I've hit that size he'd then switch me to the cogels. I'm hoping he means he can expand me in one shot, if he is going to need to add more ccs to me every two weeks...well that really doesn't work for me. Am I supposed to relocate to Lake Tahoe? wtf. What do his patients that are coming from other countries do??

Also I don't see why I need expanders period. With my current breast augmentation I went from zero to 720ccs in one shot, no problems. So why can't I add another 580ccs in one shot?

Melonie
05-15-2010, 04:31 AM
Going back to basics, expander / adjustable implants really only have two differences from 'standard' implants. A. they have a built-in filler valve, and B. the implant bag material is designed to be somewhat stretchy. While the ASPRS promotes the approach that expander / adjustable implants should eventually removed and replaced with 'standard' implants, because expander / adjustable implants theoretically have a higher probability of implant failure due to a leaking filler valve or a failure of the stretchier implant bag, in point of fact there is no absolute medical necessity to do so. There are 'huge boob' feature girls who have had the same expander / adjustable implants in place for 10 years !!! Thus from a dollars and cents standpoint, replacing expander / adjustable implants with 'standard' implants immediately after the expander / adjustable implants have been filled to a 'final' size amounts to CYA against expander / adjustable implant failure by the implant manufacturer plus extra income for the plastic surgeon.

As to 'fillups', my involvement with several plastic surgeons in this regard comes down to this. It's possible to fill expander / adjustable implants in steps of 10% or more of the implant rating as long as you wait long enough in between fillups for the breast skin to adjust. Additionally, while the risk is small, every time a hypodermic needle is inserted into the implant's filler port it carries a risk of introducing an infection and/or the possibility that the filler port won't completely re-seal after the needle is removed. Therefore the position of my own plastic surgeons was to 'get me where I wanted to go' implant size wise via as few fillups as possible ... with each fillup involving as many cc's as possible. It appears that the one doctor you reference who is charging $225 for a weekly addition of 25cc - 50cc at a time has a profit motive - and is ( technically speaking ) not acting in the best health risk interest of his patients !!!

To give you some perspective, if you look at my pictures at , the two pictures in the center row are of the same set of custom PIP adjustable implants. Size wise, I went from the picture on the right to the picture on the left with a SINGLE fill-up of 700cc each. My doctor actually rigged up two 1000cc IV bags of saline solution, and two motorized 'transfusion' pumps, and hit the switch.


I'd elaborate on the effect of sitting on the doctor's exam table in front of a mirror and watching my boobs grow 3 cup sizes bigger, and feeling my boobs grow 3 pounds heavier, all inside of 5 minutes - but that's probably best left for a different thread LOL


On a 'smaller' scale, the two pictures on the top row show my very first set of McGhan 850cc rated 'expander' implants. If I remember right, these got put in filled to 1000cc or so (picture on the left), and I got three fillups of about 150cc each before the implants started getting so round / firm / fake looking ( picture on the right) that I decided to 'trade up' to the custom made 2500cc rated PIP's shown in the center row.

As you speculated, when I had the overfilled 850cc rated McGhan implants filled way beyond their rating, they stuck out a mile, but there was a huge gap between them and they were hard as rocks. This really didn't work all that well with club customers ( i.e. I did better with 1150cc in them than I did with 1450cc in them because at 1150cc they didn't look or feel as obviously fake ). When I switched to the higher rated custom made PIP adjustable implants though, even early on when they were only filled to 2000cc the club customers went nuts over them - probably because they provided excellent cleavage and were very soft !!! When they were filled even more (to 2700cc) is when I finally started having some serious success with feature bookings / magazines / videos, as well as with 'fetish' club customers who were willing to drive to clubs from 200+ miles away to spend money on me !!! And when I 'traded up' again to the PolyString implants and a 3500+ cc size, fugeddaboudit !!!!!!!!!!!



Also I don't see why I need expanders period. With my current breast augmentation I went from zero to 720ccs in one shot, no problems. So why can't I add another 580ccs in one shot?

This all depends on how 'thick' and/or 'tight' your skin is covering the implants that you have now ... and also the 'distance' between major blood vessels in your breast skin. Again this is not an issue if you go with expander / adjustable implants and simply plan to leave them in 'permanently'. After all, what's the worst case scenario ... an implant fails and you need a second surgery to have it replaced. This is no different than having a second surgery to swap out expander / adjustable implants for 'standard' implants ... other than the latter can be scheduled in advance.



I don't know if this will help, but this woman (mentioned earlier in this thread) went to Brazil and got 10000 cc implants

to be technically correct, Sheyla had her earlier set of 3500cc rated custom made PIP implants swapped out for a new set of 5000cc rated custom made PIP implants. Unfortunately, PIP is the implant company that recently went 'belly up' such that they're no longer a viable source for custom made implants.



(snip)"A French court Tuesday ordered the closure of a company making breast implants after health investigators ordered a recall of its products for using non-authorised silicone gel.

"The company's 100 employees have been made redundant and the plant must close," insolvency administrator Xavier Huertas told AFP after the Toulon court ruling."

The Poly Implant Prothese (PIP) company is alleged to have made the implants fraudulently using unsanctioned silicone gel.

The agency that oversees health care products here, the AFSSAPS, also ordered a ban on new sales of the implants.

Around 90 percent of PIP's breast implants are exported.(snip)

^^^ It's an absolute bitch that you didn't get things underway a couple of months earlier while PIP was still producing custom made implants. The French court ruling just took place ( i.e. three weeks ago - last week of March ! )


I would also add that the 'other' implant company that offered custom made implants in the past ... EuroSilicone ... was recently purchased by McGhan ( forming a new larger company called Inamed ). However, since the French EuroSilicone division is now managed by an American implant company, they are much more risk adverse to lawsuits etc. and thus much less likely to continue the production of large custom made implants. This has probably only gotten worse as the result of the French court ruling shutting down (former) competitor PIP. Thus the only real hope of finding a 'new' source of large custom made implants probably lies with the new Asian implant company represented by V & J !!!


Under the current situation, your best option in the short term may be to try and hook up with a plastic surgeon who is part of the FDA study group for Mentor / Becker implants. They offer a model that is RATED for 1200cc total volume - that can be overfilled to the 1500cc ballpark without turning into two 'softballs glued to your chest'. See and look at model 354-8000 . Unfortunately, as an 'investigational device', if your doctor is in the US the doctor has to be signed up as a participant in the FDA study in order to be able to buy / use these Becker implants. However, a Mexican doctor may be able to get Becker implants from Mentor Corp. without the FDA study group obstacle presenting a problem. The Mexican doctor may also agree to put Becker implants in for you without attempting to charge an astronomically high 'monopoly' based surgeon's fee ( as compared to the tiny handful of US doctors who are the only ones who have access to Becker implants in the US as part of the FDA study group )

The Becker implants are quite interesting. They actually consist of a fixed volume silicone filled outer implant surrounding an adjustable saline implant at the center. This offers the advantage that the outer surface of the implant feels like silicone, while the implant size can still be 'pumped up' by the post-operative addition of saline injections into the center implant via a remotely located filler valve ( at the end of a plastic tube) that the doctor typically locates in the girl's armpit. The kicker of course is that the construction of these implants is complicated and thus their price is very high.

I looked at Becker implants briefly when dediding to 'trade up' from my original 850cc rated McGhan adjustable implants, but they didn't offer me enough extra size capacity compared to the 2500cc rated PIP adjustable implants that were also available to me at the time. In other words, I went from 1450cc overfilled McGhans to 2000cc underfilled PIP's ... a 37% increase in one surgery. But if you are stepping up from 650cc rated implants, where a similar 37% increase from 720cc would be ~1000cc, then the 1200cc rated Becker implants might be 'just what the doctor ordered' LOL. Going to 1000cc underfilled 1200cc rated Beckers during the surgery, and then 'pumping them up' to the 1400cc ballpark via a couple of 200cc 'fill-ups' spaced a few months apart, would definitely get you 'where you want to go' in terms of your immediate goal. This may be particularly the case if the Becker implants are the only immediately available option, with PIP ( and probably EuroSilicone ) custom made implants being taken off the table, and with the new Asian company represented by V & J not yet having the channels established to produce and distribute large custom made implants outside of Asia.


Believe it or not, at this point readers of this thread probably know more about the world-wide situation regarding implants larger than 800cc than the vast majority of American plastic surgeons do !

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Mindy Bares All
05-15-2010, 08:50 AM
Believe it or not, at this point readers of this thread probably know more about the world-wide situation regarding implants larger than 800cc than the vast majority of American plastic surgeons do !

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True. I do feel very enlightened. ;D

4everresolutions
05-15-2010, 09:02 AM
Melonie, you're blowing my mind.....how the hell do you know all this? How do you store all this in your brain at once?!?!

Very informative though. I plan on upsizing considerably in the next few years, and this thread will be an awesome source of info. Thanks Z!

Melonie
05-15-2010, 09:55 AM
How do you store all this in your brain at once?!?!

Contrary to popular belief, just like having flash drives I actually store the information in my boobs LOL !!!



I plan on upsizing considerably in the next few years, and this thread will be an awesome source of info

then you can find out for yourself how much 'smarter' you can become LOL !!!



how the hell do you know all this?

going through 5 sets of implants and 3 different plastic surgeons myself, plus working with other feature girls dealing with similar issues in regard to their own custom made implants and their own plastic surgeons, had a lot to do with it ! Also, prior to ever working in the 'adult entertainment' industry, I had also obtained a degree in Respiratory Therapy and spent several years working in major hospitals in NY and NJ. This brought me into direct contact with a bunch of doctors / surgeons, as well as in contact with gov't regulators.


I didn't want to come out and say this too bluntly, but for a fact the vast majority of plastic surgeons in the USA and Canada are dealing with implant patients who are working girls and housewives that get just one set of averaged sized implants ( with average being in the 250-400cc range ). To these doctors, 600cc implants are big and 800cc implants are huge. They have no conception that, overseas, girls are getting much bigger implants. For example, my German 'friend's' new custom adjustable implants are rated 5000cc !!! What 98% of American / Canadian plastic surgeons know about current implant availability is mostly limited to what their Mentor and/or McGhan company representative tells them while the two are playing golf !

I will also tell you that there is a direct correlation between the recent FDA restrictions against large / custom implants, and the appointment of a certain female director of the FDA's implant division who apparently has 'issues' with the types of girls who are the primary 'beneficiaries' of large / custom breast implants ! I know for a fact that she was responsible for the 'outlawing' of my PolyString implants.

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Zinaida
05-15-2010, 01:23 PM
I will also tell you that there is a direct correlation between the recent FDA restrictions against large / custom implants, and the appointment of a certain female director of the FDA's implant division who apparently has 'issues' with the types of girls who are the primary 'beneficiaries' of large / custom breast implants ! I know for a fact that she was responsible for the 'outlawing' of my PolyString implants.

I'm really not surprised. I figured it was something like that anyway. Restrictions like this are rarely legit!

If my peeps in MX are able to get their hands on the 1000cc Beckers I'm most likely going to go with them. However when I last spoke with them they weren't 100% certain that they could get their hands on them...I'm keeping my fingers crossed and they're gonna lemme know what they find out on Monday. Plus, once I have 1200-1400ccs in me I imagine that I could switch pretty effortlessly to 1300-1500cc cogels from Dr. Foster, no expanders needed!

I just don't know how I could work the process of expanding into my schedule, I'm pretty damn far from Lake Tahoe and I certainly am not going to be getting twice weekly injections, especially with the safety concern you mentioned Melonie. Although say he was able to put expanders in me, let me leave, and I could come back at my discretion to get them filled(like maybe every 3 months or so...), that might be doable. Depends on the starting size of the adjustables though.

Arg. This is so frustrating! The jump that I'm trying to make size-wise right now is a jump that women all over the country make every day, but because of my larger proportions I am SOL at every turn!! >:(

K I had asked Dr. Foster if he'd be able to expand me enough in one shot with the 960cc Mentors and if I could go home and wait till I was expanded enough for the cogels and he said probably, but that he couldn't say for sure till he examined me in person. I dunno, I honestly think it would be cheaper and possibly even more effective period to just 'expand myself' with 1200ccs in Mexico.

Mindy Bares All
05-15-2010, 07:39 PM
Arg. This is so frustrating! The jump that I'm trying to make size-wise right now is a jump that women all over the country make every day, but because of my larger proportions I am SOL at every turn!! >:(



I was actually pondering this earlier. It really sucks that one woman gets to control (in a sense) how large women in the US can go with implants, thus ultimately controlling their image. Which, seems contrary to the first amendment. But that's purely at a surface glance, without going too much deeper into the details and technicalities.

But I agree- I think that it's stupid that I can go from an A to a C/D if I wanted but you can't go from a C/D to an F/G...

I had a thought....Does anyone (or could anyone) find out about how the woman with the world's largest breasts got her implants, Dr, implant types and such? I'm assuming that might be helpful, IF she didn't get the PIP implants...Just a suggestion.

Melonie
05-16-2010, 03:59 AM
If my peeps in MX are able to get their hands on the 1000cc Beckers I'm most likely going to go with them. However when I last spoke with them they weren't 100% certain that they could get their hands on them...I'm keeping my fingers crossed and they're gonna lemme know what they find out on Monday.

Hopefully they're asking for the 1200cc rated size, model number 350-0800 (smooth) or 354-8000 (textured). Becker implants do also come in a 1050cc rated size, but it's model number 350-0700 (smooth) or 354-7000 (textured). You definitely want to go with the 'big guns'. Technically speaking, the 350-0800 or 354-8000 models are rated for 200cc of silicone plus 800cc of saline plus another 200cc of manufacturer approved overfill = 1200cc ... but can easily hold more overfill.



Plus, once I have 1200-1400ccs in me I imagine that I could switch pretty effortlessly to 1300-1500cc cogels

yes it would be a super-fast surgery with little or no additional stress on your breast skin. However, Becker implants have a silicone outer layer so they're going to feel like silicone implants too ( even though the center is filled with saline). Also Becker implants are rated to be used as permanent implants even though they are adjustable. Thus you and your surgeon could leave them in 'forever' with the blessing of the AMA and ASPRS.

Based on the 37% 'safe size increase' factor when 'trading up' to bigger implants with a subsequent surgery, if you spent a year with Becker implants overfilled to 1400cc you would then have a shot at trading up to 1400 * 1.37 = 1917 ~ 2000cc rated custom silicone implants. These would cost the same as 1500cc rated custom silicone implants - and would be equally easy or difficult to obtain as 1500cc rated custom silicone implants. However, at a 2000cc size you would definitely be in a position career wise of attracting the attention of magazines, video producers, feature dancer booking agents etc.

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Zinaida
05-16-2010, 10:32 AM
They did say 1000cc overfilled to 1200. Let's hope they can get them or I gotta go to fucking Lake Tahoe! *crosses fingers, toys and eyes*

Everyman
05-17-2010, 07:16 AM
If you MUST get implants (and I won't even beat that dead horse), show the doc a picture of Tess Taylor. She's natural, but large boob perfection. The adjectives she has you should reach for are large, slight teardrop, great BOTTOM BOOB fullness (top boob fullness looks completely unnatural), some sway. Yummmmy, she is.

Sway is very important, they have to move on their own.

Zinaida
05-17-2010, 02:35 PM
^^^Too small for me!

So CosMed(in MX) said that they haven't gotten an answer back on the 1000cc Beckers, they are pretty confident that they can get 950cc Beckers, but of course not certain. Wtf. People I already PAID you get me some definite answers. I know I know they can only do so much. I'm just very pissy. I know their surgery schedule fills up quickly, my fear is that by the time they find out a solution(IF they find one period) that I won't be able to have my surgery on time! Although she has assured me that since I already put so much down that I was 'guaranteed' a spot, that they'd squeeze me in someway. Words don't mean too much to me though. Say I end up having to go to Dr. Foster though, I'm still aiming for late August/very early September, the longer I have to wait to find out if I'm going to him the more my plane tickets will cost, the more his schedule is going to fill up...

Mr Hyde
05-17-2010, 05:39 PM
I have nothing constructive to add to this thread. I just want to say that Zinaida makes me very happy. Please keep doing your thing, I am loving this.

XAnastasiaX
05-17-2010, 09:49 PM
I like Tess's but yes she is most likely a DD is that is too small for the OP I like them myself though also like Jordan Katie Prices I am going to show both to my doc

Zinaida
05-18-2010, 12:24 AM
If Tess was the chick that I saw when I tried to pull up her name on a search engine, well she is definitely too small. If anything she looks like what I have now! I may have the wrong chick though. Mr. Hyde I love you too! :D

Anywayz.....so it looks like I will be switching out to 960cc silicones for the meantime. Dr. Quiroz said he really didn't feel comfortable giving me the Beckers, said that they are made for reconstructive surgery, are made to be refilled(adjustables I guess) and he said they have no projection. He basically thinks they will end up looking very funky on me. However I assume that he's assuming that I'm gonna have them for a long time...however if everything goes according to my plan I won't even have them for a year. I was tempted to tell him to get me them anyway just because I know they're not for long-term....but then again I figure I've had so many problems so far who knows, I might end up having them for longer than planned. And I'm planning all of this around a doctor I've never met(Dr. Foster) so....nothing's concrete so I decided to be safe and get the 960s.

After this I will be 360ccs away from the coveted 1300cc cogels. If Dr. Foster thinks I need to be expanded for a mere 360ccs I will denounce him as a quack and wouldn't want to go to him period. That would be ridiculous. I also think it's odd that he wants to expand me to where I'm 10% bigger than the 1300cc cogels.....I know plenty of women who got cogels and they didn't have to be expanded like that beforehand.

Of course there is also the possibility though that once I have the 960s in and see what a minimal difference it has made(honestly 240ccs on me ain't jack shit, I won't be surprised if they look just like they do now) I'm not going to want to upgrade a mere 360ccs more, I might want the 1500cc cogels and then Dr. Foster would insist on expanding me for sure I'm certain!

Melonie
05-18-2010, 03:42 PM
^^^ in regard to increasing cc's versus increasing breast size, keep in mind that implants get larger in 3 dimensions not just one. So while going from 720 to 960cc represents a 33% increase in one dimension, over 3 dimensions it is only an 11% increase ( cube root of 1.33 = just under 1.11 ). This increase will be barely noticeable.

If you want my honest opinion, going to 960cc silicone implants from 720cc current implants is a comparative waste of time and money. I would take my chances on the Beckers with the stated intention of only keeping them in for a year ( to chill the doctor out ) ... and during that year gradually overfilling them to the 1300-1400cc ballpark via injections into their filler port ( at which point they will gain some significant projection). From there you then have a direct shot at 1500cc or even 2000cc custom silicone implants in a subsequent surgery ... which would probably not be possible from a 960cc starting point.

Zinaida
05-18-2010, 04:00 PM
^^^You're totally right and I have been kicking myself. And like you say, who cares if they have no projection because they are adjustable and can be pretty highly overfilled, there's projection right there! I called them today and asked if they had already ordered the silicones because if not I'd switch to the Beckers. She's gonna find out for me. Although....if they already ordered them maybe I should buy the Beckers anyway and sell the 960s to my friend who is wanting an XL silicone breast augmentation by my same doctor in a few months....LOL. Who knows if they'd even do that...although I don't see why they wouldn't. If they already paid for and ordered a set of 960cc silicones will be delivered to them either way, they could use them on my friend and we'd do our own transaction under the table. However she wasn't sure that the 800s wouldn't be too big, she might not want to go to 960!

Okay my friend said she is more interested in something in the 700 range. Well fuck her. (j/k lol!!!) But, it would be neat if say I did get a spare set of 960cc silicones that I could take home with me(would they even let me do that? You'd think so right?) because then I could possibly have the fun and interesting task of selling them on ebay or something! Dr. Foster said a lot of his patients get their implants off of CL and Ebay. I'd definitely have the check the legalities involved(like, would I get in trouble for selling an outlawed size). Would be an interesting experience!

But best case scenario would be that the 960s haven't been ordered yet lol.

KS_Stevia
05-18-2010, 04:48 PM
If you MUST get implants (and I won't even beat that dead horse), show the doc a picture of Tess Taylor. She's natural, but large boob perfection. The adjectives she has you should reach for are large, slight teardrop, great BOTTOM BOOB fullness (top boob fullness looks completely unnatural), some sway. Yummmmy, she is.

Sway is very important, they have to move on their own.

She looks like she's had implants, very well done, IMO.

Zinaida
05-18-2010, 04:53 PM
If this is here a) they're real and b) she's smaller than what I have now!!





Do not want!

Melonie
05-19-2010, 01:50 AM
you definitely won't have a problem 'getting rid of' a brand new set of 960cc rated silicone implants

malayataylor
07-01-2010, 06:21 PM
Oh....Denise Milani...you'll like her...


damn i like her!

HailToTheBoob
07-02-2010, 03:32 PM
Melonie, you're blowing my mind.....how the hell do you know all this? How do you store all this in your brain at once?!?!

Very informative though. I plan on upsizing considerably in the next few years, and this thread will be an awesome source of info. Thanks Z!

Have u read her thread about the gulf oil spill? She amazing.