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Kylea2
05-07-2010, 11:42 PM
Zinaida, you can't just say you are "against sugars" as a blank statement. There are different types of sugars that digest differently, and there's TONS of stuff that people don't think about that have sugars in them - tomatoes and bread for example. Plus, you have to look at quantity.
Baked potato
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2770/2
Bread
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/baked-products/4850/2
Red raw tomato
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2682/2
SweetVibrance
05-07-2010, 11:46 PM
Here - this is a great example of why 18 grams of sugar really isn't that much when talking about Slim Fast. It's comparable to a banana or a slice of watermelon. Grapes, at 20 - 23 grams, have more sugar per serving than Slim Fast
http://www.sugarstacks.com/fruits.htm
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/fruits-and-fruit-juices/1920/2
compared to http://www.sugarstacks.com/shakes.htm
You're forgetting that your comparing two totally different kinds of sugars. One is natural, and in moderate amounts good for your body, while the other is processed and harsh on the body. So really, that's not a straight comparison. Grapes/fruit do not have the artificial chemicals and HFCS that SF do either.
And just to clarify for everyone, SlimFast Ultima is the 18g of sugar.....the regular one has 34g:O
ETA to last post: the starches in potatoes and bread are also not the same.
Kylea2
05-07-2010, 11:58 PM
You're forgetting that your comparing two totally different kinds of sugars. One is natural, and in moderate amounts good for your body, while the other is processed and harsh on the body. So really, that's not a straight comparison. Grapes/fruit do not have the artificial chemicals and HFCS that SF do either.
And just to clarify for everyone, SlimFast Ultima is the 18g of sugar.....the regular one has 34g:O
ETA to last post: the starches in potatoes and bread are also not the same.
No, I didn't "Forget"... like I said:
you can't just say you are "against sugars" as a blank statement. There are different types of sugars that digest differently
You just re-iterated my point.
Also, the powdered can I have upstairs says 18g. I may have linked to the wrong one. I watch pretty closely what I take in. Here:
http://www.slim-fast.com/products/powder/w/wiki/High-Protein-Creamy-Chocolate-Shake-Mix.aspx?ProductID=8
Here's my qualms with sugar......
At one point I loved sweets, dark chocolate, any gourmet dessert, pie, etc. I purged all the sugar out of diet, even artificial sweeteners, to the point I ate absolutely nothing sweet whatsoever. Even now, I drink black coffee cut with cold water. No splenda, stevia, nothing.
When I did this, I realized that I no longer craved the sweets anymore, or anything sweet for that matter. I then came across an article online talking about how even if you drink artificial sweeteners like Diet Coke, they trigger your body to crave sugar later on. I feel it's best (for me) to eat no sweets, sweet drinks, chocolate, nothing. I know I still get sugars from fruit that eat occasionally or vegetables, whatever, but its NOT the same as eating "sweets".
So for example, I personally could never eat the low carb waffle recipe lilmissunshine posted because I know it would start a downward spiral for me. If you are one of the people like Kylea or lilmissunshine that can eat "healthy sweets" like this, try Coconut Bark. It has almost no carbs, and uses stevia as a sweetener. It's basically cocoa powder, coconut oil, and stevia frozen and broken into bars. It's really good, but terrible for me, I have no stop button when it comes to sugar!
*Jade*Love
05-07-2010, 11:59 PM
I don't really think drinking a slimfast in the morning or on the go every now and then is really all that bad... I'm like Kylea and am totally addicted to chocolate! Well i'm pretty much addicted to sugar in general and really need to get it under control. But if it comes down to choosing between a Slimfast or a chocolate bar, I don't think the Slimfast is going to do mass destruction on your body lol.
Love this thread though! Let's keep it going :)
I find it hard to eat certain green leafy veggies, so I get this juice at Trader Joes that is very much like the green juice Zinaida was talking about. I just plug my nose and chug it! It doesn't have any sugar, it's just all juice from leafy greens.
Nuts and dried apricots are great for on the go and they keep you full.
I mostly just keep frozen veggies like broccoli and green beans in my freezer and eat them with brown rice and chicken or fish.
Kylea2
05-08-2010, 12:01 AM
J.D., I can't have aspartame/stevia/nutra sweet etc. All of those give me really terrible migraines. Splenda & real sugar I'm okay with, but I take in moderation.
SweetVibrance
05-08-2010, 12:04 AM
LOL. I didn't reiterate your point. If I did then you contradicted yourself, because you made the statement you say I reiterated, but then tried to compare the sugars in fruits vs SlimFast. No, it's not just about how they're digested. For starters, they're chemical composition is different.
I really want a berry smoothie now. Thanks thread.
*Jade*Love
05-08-2010, 12:04 AM
Here's my qualms with sugar......
At one point I loved sweets, dark chocolate, any gourmet dessert, pie, etc. I purged all the sugar out of diet, even artificial sweeteners, to the point I ate absolutely nothing sweet whatsoever. Even now, I drink black coffee cut with cold water. No splenda, stevia, nothing.
When I did this, I realized that I no longer craved the sweets anymore, or anything sweet for that matter. I then came across an article online talking about how even if you drink artificial sweeteners like Diet Coke, they trigger your body to crave sugar later on. I feel it's best (for me) to eat no sweets, sweet drinks, chocolate, nothing. I know I still get sugars from fruit that eat occasionally or vegetables, whatever, but its NOT the same as eating "sweets".
So for example, I personally could never eat the low carb waffle recipe lilmissunshine posted because I know it would start a downward spiral for me. If you are one of the people like Kylea or lilmissunshine that can eat "healthy sweets" like this, try Coconut Bark. It has almost no carbs, and uses stevia as a sweetener. It's basically cocoa powder, coconut oil, and stevia frozen and broken into bars. It's really good, but terrible for me, I have no stop button when it comes to sugar!
I sooooo need to do this. I eat really healthy in all other areas of my diet but always break down an succumb to sugar. It's like crack! I'll get these hardcore cravings and go hunt down a cupcake and then my brain releases those feel-good chemicals and I'm cool again. I think it has something to do with my hypoglycemia... I'm gonna try to start cracking down on myself and just eat fruit when I'm breaking down.
SweetVibrance
05-08-2010, 12:08 AM
And btw, although I am aware of the effects and unhealthiness of processed sugar, don't let that fool you. I know it's bad but I eat a ton of it::)
Kylea2
05-08-2010, 12:09 AM
Jade Love - It's funny to me that I consider sesame seed crackers "breaking down" and you consider a cupcake "breaking down". LOL that made me smile.
Anyhow, the Slim-fast does help keep me away from real chocolate. People who like chocolate really should eat dark because most have higher levels of cacao... but I'm more of a fan of milk chocolate.
SweetVibrance
05-08-2010, 12:22 AM
This thread just made me choose fresh strawberries over ice cream. Awesome.
Right now, my body is probably the BEST it has ever looked in my entire life, and here's what I eat:
Tilapia (buy it organic at Whole Foods frozen for like $3) thaw, cook on medium heat with a tiny bit of grapeseed oil (which I also use as a makeup remover LOL) I throw half a can of Rotel over it, cover and simmer for 10 minutes or so. I thaw out some butternut squash, or lightly sautee some Swiss Chard, or whatever vegetable I feel like.
Bistec (organic beef cube steaks) pounded out thin with the end of a knife, then sprinkled with Goya Adobo con Pimiento and marinated with some (not very much) grapeseed oil for about an hour, then I pan sear them and they cook really fast! I eat this with sauteed kale, sliced tomato, sweet potato, whatever random vegetable I grab. This goes really well with rice, but I am just not a rice fan.
Shredded chicken breast with a spoonful of peanut butter, mediterranean spices (comes in a tube, is a paste, you can also use Turmeric root, curry in place of this) sliced mushrooms, spinach, crushed red pepper, any other random frozen vegetables, this makes something similar to a Thai dish, it's yummy!
Calamari tubes and tentacles (optional: add octopus and shrimp), minced garlic, a splash of white wine, cilantro, sliced leeks, shallots, and a tiny bit of grapeseed oil, all sauteed together, then simmered for about ten minutes. You can also use half a can of tomato sauce, leave out the the garlic and white wine, add onions, black beans, for more of a Mexican style.
Salmon baked at 375 for about 20-30 minutes, with a vegetable or salad.
Ground Turkey Breast, browned, then add in a big pot with one can of organic stewed tomatoes, sliced leeks, assorted frozen vegetables to your preference (I like okra, mixed vegetables, haricot verts, peas, lima beans, all organic of course! I buy the 365 brand in the frozen section at Whole Foods for cheap) add crushed red pepper to taste, simmer 15 minutes. This is probably my favorite recipe out of all of them!
Also, once a day I will eat a huge all organic spinach salad. I go through a whole tub of spinach within 2-3 days! I tear the leaves in smaller pieces, slice a tomato, one of those smaller gourmet cucumbers, sometimes avocado, dump an entire can of chunk white albacore tuna on it, and I LOVE Annie's Naturals shitake sesame dressing, but I only use a little bit.
So basically, I eat a serving of protein, with a vegetable each day. I also eat a salad each day as well, and for breakfast I eat Ezekiel bread with almond butter and a sliced banana on top, or Chobani 0% greek yogurt with some fresh berries. After a workout or for a snack, I eat organic hard boiled egg whites. I go through a dozen and a half eggs each week. I never eat the yolks though. I've read that egg whites are THE purest form of protein you can possibly put in your body. I love salmon because of it's high protein content as well. I'm with Zinaida, I consume a ton of protein, but also a ton of vegetables, but honestly that's about it! (except for breakfast) I try to eat the majority of my carbs early on in the day as well.
I take a multi vitamin, Pharmaceutical grade Arctic fish oils 820mg (I take 4 a day), Relora 3x a day, 1 in the morning and two at night, Vitamin D once a day, Nioxin hair vitamin once a day. I take Alpha Lipoic Acid before I eat meals, around 3 times a day. Not only does ALA improve your moods, is a potent antioxidant, but it regulates your blood sugar, so you don't get those mood swings/hunger/carb cravings, it helps tremendously! Try it!
I just got a juicer, so I can't wait to start juicing my greens, adding a green apple so it doesn't taste disgusting, and lots of ginger!
I lift heavy weights 3x a day, free weights circuit style training. I do an hour of cardio twice a week, and one outdoor activity or class once a week.
This is what has worked for me, so maybe you ladies can try out my routine :)
I sooooo need to do this. I eat really healthy in all other areas of my diet but always break down an succumb to sugar. It's like crack! I'll get these hardcore cravings and go hunt down a cupcake and then my brain releases those feel-good chemicals and I'm cool again. I think it has something to do with my hypoglycemia... I'm gonna try to start cracking down on myself and just eat fruit when I'm breaking down.
Jade, I know exactly how you feel! I used to feel like a crack addict the way my body craved sweets, it was insane! Purge it out girl! No more of Crystal Light, Diet Coke, any fake sweeteners, train your body to get used to pure simple foods/drinks. Water, unsweetened grassy green tea, Kombucha, etc. I can't even drink anything mildly sweet anymore, it is too sickeningly sweet for me. Try the Alpha Lipoic Acid too! I use Jarrow brand, and take it 3 times a day before meals to control my insulin and those swings and cravings. It works! It was actually recommended to me by an M.D.
P.S. I used to CRAVE Taco Bueno like you wouldn't believe, after eating like this for about six weeks, I tried to eat a burrito from Taco Bueno, and I swear to God it didn't taste anything the same! It tasted like straight butter and way too rich for me to handle!
lilmisssunshine
05-08-2010, 12:39 AM
JD I totally agree with what you said about sugar. Diabetes runs in my family and I am already insulin resistant. Artificial sweeteners still spike blood sugar. I know this, my mom can't seem to have a diet soda without her blood sugar spiking. It's the spiking that causes sugar cravings. I, too, have problems when I eat something sweet on heading on a downward spiral and eating everything with sugar. Its not about which sugar or sweetener is the best, it's all sugary sweet evil goodness in the end.
I took a ton of homoepathic/holistic healing classes and they reinforced in our heads that there are two main basic causes of disease, STRESS+SUGAR. Nothing will age you or kill you faster.
With that being said, the waffle recipe I posted would be the lesser of the evils if one were to give into sugar cravings. The trick is not to hit the downward spiral. Perhaps eating it with eggs or some other protein to stabilize blood sugars will help. Certainly, they are better than real waffles.
lilmisssunshine
05-08-2010, 12:40 AM
I am even toying with doing a zero carb lifestyle to get away from sugars.
One more thing I wanted to add...
You can use those big green leftover leek stalks as well as the stalks from Swiss or Rainbow Chard, boil them in some water for an extended period of time, and you just made a great stock minus the high sodium for a healthy soup!
J.D., I can't have aspartame/stevia/nutra sweet etc. All of those give me really terrible migraines. Splenda & real sugar I'm okay with, but I take in moderation.
You should try making that Coconut Bark with Splenda. I think you would really like it! There is even a recipe for a white chocolate version of it, hardly any carbs, sugar, just enough to satisfy that chocolate craving! LOL. Look it up!
lilmisssunshine
05-08-2010, 12:44 AM
I wanna try the Alpha Lipoic Acid. And coconut bark? Where is that? Health food store? Whole Foods? Central Market? Sprouts? or will they even have it at the nicer HEB'S?
JD I totally agree with what you said about sugar. Diabetes runs in my family and I am already insulin resistant. Artificial sweeteners still spike blood sugar. I know this, my mom can't seem to have a diet soda without her blood sugar spiking. It's the spiking that causes sugar cravings. I, too, have problems when I eat something sweet on heading on a downward spiral and eating everything with sugar. Its not about which sugar or sweetener is the best, it's all sugary sweet evil goodness in the end.
I took a ton of homoepathic/holistic healing classes and they reinforced in our heads that there are two main basic causes of disease, STRESS+SUGAR. Nothing will age you or kill you faster.
With that being said, the waffle recipe I posted would be the lesser of the evils if one were to give into sugar cravings. The trick is not to hit the downward spiral. Perhaps eating it with eggs or some other protein to stabilize blood sugars will help. Certainly, they are better than real waffles.
Lady, seriously look into Alpha Lipoic Acid, it really does help me stabilize my blood sugar tremendously. For example, when I'm at work, and I'm starting to feel a little hungry, I take one and it KILLS that mood swing/sugar/carb craving/bitchy feeling completely. It totally helps! I take the Jarrow brand. It works! :)
Coconut Bark Recipes: http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/lowcarb-recipe-help-suggestions/495315-give-me-your-coconut-bark-recipes.html
As you can see, some people make them more like milk chocolate, some like them really really dark chocolatey (like me), and some are white chocolate. I personally added a little peanut butter to mine, and it was good, definitely did not taste like a chocolate candle, LOL.
It's a really easy recipe, you make it yourself, it uses like 3 or 4 ingredients, thats it. Very simple and easy!
SweetVibrance
05-08-2010, 12:51 AM
I am even toying with doing a zero carb lifestyle to get away from sugars.
I learned in nutrition class that cutting out anything like that entirely is not very healthy? Carbs are sugar. Glucose. The stuff our entire bodies use, down to every little cell that makes ATP.Low carb, OK I understand. But zero carb?.....:O Even JD sounds like she's getting SOME carbs.
Tell us more?
lilmisssunshine
05-08-2010, 01:03 AM
I actually first heard of zero carb from someone here on SW and then found this forum - . I started reading up on it and found it really interesting. I have not tried it. I am not even sure if I can live that way. I have been pretty darn close though, cutting carbs down to almost nil, and I gotta say that after the initial weaning period, I actually felt better than ever.
Like I said, I am toying with the idea. Dunno if I can actually handle it though. Diabetes runs in my family, but if you read the forum, you will understand that on a zero carb lifestyle, diabetes is not even an issue any more. No carbs = no insulin spikes.
I thought it was totally unhealthy and that these people were totally crazy at first, but after looking into it, I am not so sure they are...
Sadly though, I would rather be a vegetarian for moral purposes
*SIGH*
lilmisssunshine
05-08-2010, 01:04 AM
Gonna try the Alpha Lipoic Acid. Was also doing Glutamine to help with sugar cravings. Don't know if you have ever tried that J.D.
SweetVibrance
05-08-2010, 01:30 AM
Yeah but I just don't get how it's a good idea. No offense. Our cells use glucose for everything. What do they use if there's zero carbs (glucose) to function?
Also, if somebody has Type 1 Diabetes, not even no carb will help them sadly :(
Looking further, it seems to be very black and white thinking. There's not a lot of talk about good carbs vs bad carbs. Plus there's trace amounts of carbs in just about everything....
I can't do no carbs, no way! I NEED my carbs because I love my high impact workouts too much. I try to use carbs as fuel for my workouts, which in turn turns my body into a fat burning furnace, carbs are the fuel that feeds the fire, LOL. Now, I am picky about how/where I get my carbs. No refined sugars, pasta, white bread, etc. I try to get my carbs from vegetables like sweet potatoes, or IF I eat bread, I eat Ezekiel organic sprouted bread, which also has high protein. I think the most important thing is what you eat exactly. I really just try to eat lean meats, vegetables, and fruit (in the mornings) I eat some greek yogurt for calcium reasons, but other than that I don't really eat much dairy.
Gonna try the Alpha Lipoic Acid. Was also doing Glutamine to help with sugar cravings. Don't know if you have ever tried that J.D.
I've never tried Glutamine, isn't that a post workout recovery type supplement? I'm not sure, but I am interested in learning about new things!
lilmisssunshine
05-08-2010, 01:49 AM
Not sure about Type 1 diabetes. Dunno much about it. My family all has Type 2.
Yes, there are trace carbs in everything, so technically zero carbs is not really possible. My mother's doctor advised her to eat less that 20 carbs a day. She may as well do a "zero" carb diet, because with trace carbs she would be getting fairly close to that more than likely. It's real freakin hard to eat only 20 carbs a day.
And if you read the forum, they state how the zero carb diet is definitely not for everyone and can be difficult to follow. They don't talk about good vs. bad carbs because they see all carbs as bad.
Frankly I couldn't see how anyone could do it and not fall over dead from heart disease or a lack of nutrition, but these people have been doing it for years in that forum. Makes you wonder about the nutrition they teach in schools and what validity it has. I think we can all agree the four food groups/three squares a day they taught us back in the day was just hogwash.
It is interesting to see what these people are doing/saying about it, and I am still on the fence about trying it.
lilmisssunshine
05-08-2010, 01:58 AM
Some people use glutamine for post recovery to help maintain muscle mass. However, if you take it consistently, it is supposed to help stop sugar binges.
I read about it in this book I have called The Diet Cure. She talks about Carb addicts and also talks about how food can affect your moods and how some mental issues can actually be nutritionally based.
Anyhow, your brain prefers glucose to burn for fuel. It does not like to burn fat. But when it runs out of glucose, it will burn fat but it goes through the process of ketosis to get there. Those cravings we get are supposed to be when our bodies are telling us there is no glucose left and it doesn't feel like resorting to fat burning and ketosis, so it basically sends us signals to go eat some sugar. Glutamine is supposed to bridge the gap and help feed the brain and stop sugar cravings.
That is my best somewhat scientific explanation of it. I tried it and it did seem to help. I was having low blood sugar and shaking so I took a pill and was fine after about 15 minutes. I just ran out of the pills so I stopped taking it. I need to get my lazy ass to the store and get more.
I also highly recommend that book. It was awesome.
SweetVibrance
05-08-2010, 02:16 AM
Oh OK. Real quick then for your info....type one is caused by an abnormality of receptor sites/cells on the pancreas that regulate insulin and glucagon. It's autoimmune. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_mellitus_type_1 Now in rare cases diet can be a factor, but it's only usually a factor in type 2.
:)
miabella
05-08-2010, 02:22 AM
Not sure about Type 1 diabetes. Dunno much about it. My family all has Type 2.
Yes, there are trace carbs in everything, so technically zero carbs is not really possible. My mother's doctor advised her to eat less that 20 carbs a day. She may as well do a "zero" carb diet, because with trace carbs she would be getting fairly close to that more than likely. It's real freakin hard to eat only 20 carbs a day.
And if you read the forum, they state how the zero carb diet is definitely not for everyone and can be difficult to follow. They don't talk about good vs. bad carbs because they see all carbs as bad.
Frankly I couldn't see how anyone could do it and not fall over dead from heart disease or a lack of nutrition, but these people have been doing it for years in that forum. Makes you wonder about the nutrition they teach in schools and what validity it has. I think we can all agree the four food groups/three squares a day they taught us back in the day was just hogwash.
It is interesting to see what these people are doing/saying about it, and I am still on the fence about trying it.
Eating a high-fat (healthy fats, not vegetable oils like canola and soybean) and moderate protein diet will do it on the low-carb front. You get all your nutrients in, you are satiated (so you don't eat terribly much, and overeating/binging is pretty difficult to accomplish), and you can easily stay under 50g and often even 25g carbs a day.
I have great bloodwork, excellent muscle tone and strength, all the standard markers of great health, and a usual carb count for me is 15-25g per day. and when i was dieting, i lost almost entirely fat and kept the muscle and didn't have bloating/water retention issues.
those results aren't unusual or atypical.
a lot of women who eat this way find that they don't eat much, but it's all very nutrient-rich. an example is very physically active women going from 2000+ per day to 1600-1800 per day and getting better results with their workouts.
it is certainly possible to be stupid eating very few carbs (like the people who live off ground beef patties and water), but a saner approach is to include fibrous veggies like broccoli, and work out on a case by case nuts/dairy/fruit, tailored to your personal situation.
but the main point is that minimal carbs is perfectly healthy and nutrient-rich, provided you stick with high-quality sources for your fats and protein and what few carbs you do end up eating.
and now i'm going to eat some goat milk ice cream!
Kylea2
05-08-2010, 09:50 AM
^^^^ Goats milk ice cream is delicious! Naturally sweet too.
I don't do a "no carb" diet, that would be pretty impossible, but like Mia I do a low carb diet.
The good fats vs bad fats that Mia was referring to means you should stick primarily to monosaturated/poly unsaturated/Omega 3 fats rather than less healthy fats like saturated/trans fat.
Also JD, I'm a HUGE fan of anything coconut. In terms of sweet and nuts products, coconut has one of the highest levels of protein. It's in the "water" and the meat of the coconut.
If you like coconut and want something slightly sweet without the sugar and calories, I'm a huge fan of the Tea Dojo's white tea called coconut creme:
http://www.teadojo.com/Tea_Dojo/White_Tea.html
miabella
05-08-2010, 07:13 PM
actually, the healthy fats are primarily saturated and monounsaturated. trans fats are never saturated, and in fact are usually a form of processed vegetable oil like canola/soybean oils.
human breast milk is about 40% saturated fat. it's good stuff and shouldn't get mixed up with trans fats.
omega-6 is ok to get from nuts and seeds (i.e., from the source) and stuff like avocado, but the ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 should be less than 5:1, i.e., you should be eating mostly saturated fats and maybe some monounsaturated fat like olive oil, and not a lot of sunflower oil or nuts or pumpkin seeds. lots of omega-6 can cause inflammation and other problems.
saturated fat is ok, especially if the sources are healthy animals and plants (for coconut oil, not all coconut oil is well-sourced).
Zinaida
05-08-2010, 09:04 PM
J.D. I LOVE your diet!
^^^ I've tried a few, but honestly I really love Slim Fast. There used to be a low carb slim fast but they discontinued it. I use the Slim Fast High Protein chocolate now. It's good, but not as good.
It's crap. Second ingredient is sugar, as in table sugar (sucrose)
"Whey Protein Isolate (Milk), Sugar, High Oleic Sunflower Oil, Gum Arabic, Maltodextrin, Cellulose Gel, Soy Fiber, Buttermilk Powder, Potassium Phosphate, Xanthan Gum, Dextrose, Salt, Guar Gum, Soybean Lecithin, Artificial Flavor...."
The list of chemicals and general crap continues...
BTW: The kind of sugar that is in a Snickers or a SlimFast is NOT the same kind of 'sugar' that is in a piece of fresh fruit.
Fruit contains fructose, glucose, and others in various amounts and ratios depending the fruit, as well as fiber, vites, various phyto nutrients, etc.
Slimfast is pure junk containing table sugar (sucrose), vegetable oil, etc, and a small dose of vites. The can cost more then what's in it.
J.D., I can't have aspartame/stevia/nutra sweet etc. All of those give me really terrible migraines. Splenda & real sugar I'm okay with, but I take in moderation.
BTW, Slimfast product you are using contains the synthetic sweetener ACESULFAME POTASSIUM. A basic write up if interested:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acesulfame_potassium
Right now, my body is probably the BEST it has ever looked in my entire life, and here's what I eat:
Since we started discussing your nutrition plan a while back, I see huge improvements in your approach, and I have no doubt you look and fee better for it. Guess my "thanx for the advice Will" card got lost in the mail. }:D
Anyway, good work kiddo. 8)
Will, how do you feel about the Jay Robb protein powders vs. The one you were telling me about on Skype? (BTW, I need that link again)
I tried the Jay Robb last night, and the only thing that concerns me is it didn't say lactose free on it, and not only do I hate dairy, I feel like my body is sensitive to it. On the ingredients list it said "milk by products" whatever that means.
Also, I can't get over how his face is on all the packaging, he's standing there with his arms crossed smiling, you know he did that on purpose, he's thinking "Yeah, that's right, you just drank my protein bitch!" Ha ha :)
Also Will, do you think Redline is crap? It has Sucralean (sucralose) in it. Not sure about that stuff... /threadjack
actually, the healthy fats are primarily saturated and monounsaturated. .
You're mixing up your fats. The healthy fats are omega 3 poly unsaturated EPA/DHA/LNA (e.g. derived from fish, flax, etc)*, the Omega 6s** (i.e., LA) which combined = EFAs. Then the mono unsaturated (e.g, derived from olive oils and others), and the saturated, but it's more complex then that as saturated lengths also appear to matter, ergo short, medium and long chain SFA's
* Omega 3 from fish vs flax is not the same, but to save space, they are together above
** People generally get too much of them anyway, but they are an EFA and thus must be listed
Also Will, do you think Redline is crap? It has Sucralean (sucralose) in it. Not sure about that stuff... /threadjack
I'm not anti sucralose personally, but as you pointed out already, it simply keeps the sweet cravings active. It's best to simply retrain your brains cravings for sweets and synthetics do nothing but keep it going. That's really my major issue with sucralose.
chanzep
05-10-2010, 04:54 AM
J.D. I LOVE your diet!
Me too!
Ima try some of the recipes they sound good, Im loving this thread.
Will, how do you feel about the Jay Robb protein powders vs. The one you were telling me about on Skype? (BTW, I need that link again)
Would have been life Extension Foundation I mentioned. Compare labels and prices. Looking at the standard JR whey product:
Cold-processed cross-flow microfiltered whey protein isolate, natural flavor, xanthan gum, lecithin, stevia
Protein: 25 g per 30g serving
Cost listed on site for
Cost: $43.76 for 1.5lbs
http://www.jayrobb.com/cat_proteinWheyVan24.asp
Life Extension:
$38 for 2.2 lbs (even less if you are an LEF member BTW)
CFM whey isolate (highest quality isolate in my opinion)
natural vanilla, stevia sweetended, and added lactoferrin.
17g of protein per 20g serving size
Info:
http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item01092/Enhanced-Life-Extension-Whey-Protein-Vanilla.html
Don't know the JR product tastes like, but the LEF product is very mild, not very sweet, so for those who expect their protein drink to taste like a sweet milk shake, that's not how LEF tastes. Some simply flavor up with some fruit, etc.
J.D. I LOVE your diet!
It's much improved from what it was, that's for damn sure. Where's my new pics of your progress JD?
Anyway, if interested in a real diet of another real person, who is in great shape, very pretty (not that it matters, but I figured I wold throw that in...), a mom, who is training hard to take her body and fitness to the next level for her, see blog post:
http://www.brinkzone.com/training-programs/sumis-hybrid-journey/#more-2114
I'm sure she would appreciate your comments and encouragement. ;)
Me too!
Ima try some of the recipes they sound good, Im loving this thread.
If you want a bunch of great, healthy recipes, all with cals, macros, etc all figured out, on my free download page:
http://www.brinkzone.com/general-brinkzone-stuff/free-e-book-download/
Free download there called "tasty fat loss recipes."
Can't beat the price, that's for damn sure. ;)
Let me know if you try some of the recipes, and how you like 'em...
Will, you are the most valuable fitness/nutrition resource I have EVER found! Thank you so much for taking the time to personally talk to me on here and on Skype, you rock! I'll send you some more pictures soon.....
Ladies, one more thing..... if you follow this type of diet/exercise plan, don't expect to drop the weight and/or change quickly. Change will happen slowly, but will stay longer. When you drop weight fast, you put it back on just as fast! In fact, I was starting to get seriously pissed because I wasn't noticing any difference in my body and nobody was commenting (I guess because they see me everyday)..... BUT two and half months later when I went out of town to work, and nobody had seen me in a while, EVERYBODY was so shocked and kept telling me how awesome I look! People were saying I look much more defined, toned, WAY smaller waist, six pack, I have a glow and I seem so much more confident, on and on...... so when you are staring at that Snickers bar with lust, remember....
NOTHING TASTES AS GOOD AS HEALTHY, FIT, AND SEXY FEEL!!!!!
Will, you are the most valuable fitness/nutrition resource I have EVER found! Thank you so much for taking the time to personally talk to me on here and on Skype, you rock! I'll send you some more pictures soon.....
Good! Want to see the results of the hard work.
Ladies, one more thing..... if you follow this type of diet/exercise plan, don't expect to drop the weight and/or change quickly. Change will happen slowly, but will stay longer. When you drop weight fast, you put it back on just as fast! !
OMG, you WERE listening! I now believe global warming, world peace, and white people learning to dance is all possible!!!!!!
Right now I am drinking Glutamine powder mixed with some green tea I made, a combination of Yogi Super Antioxidant green tea and Yogi Kombucha green tea. I ate slightly steamed kale along with a spinach salad with grilled chicken, tomato, avocado, and 1 tbsp of vinaigrette. I had a packet of jay robbs protein before I worked out today, and for breakfast I had ezekiel toast with almond butter and 6 hard boiled egg whites. I did fuck up at lunch though, had a veggie burger (no bun) and 2 turkey dogs. I have a sick lust for the taste of turkey dogs. Nasty processed crap! They are going in the trash right now! How did you guys do today?
Zinaida
05-11-2010, 12:35 AM
I ate good today....except for a cheese danish. :( It hurt so good.
chanzep
05-11-2010, 04:13 AM
Yesterday I was good, but just now i ate a lemon slice:'( : , I wanted something sweet and my greek yoguhrt is finished, i wanted yoghurt bluberries and brazil nuts but i ate cake instead, I find it very hard to be good when im on my period but its only morning im gonna do good 4 the rest of the day.