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AngelKing
05-21-2010, 09:46 AM
This is good advice. My ex was a bouncer for several years (never at a SC though) and the mental focus and powers of observation that he developed were astonishing. As a bouncer you need to be observing everyone and everything all night long. If you can learn how to do this your ability to read people will skyrocket. There's wayyyyy more things you need to pay attention to when working security in a strip club besides the hotness of the girls. I wouldn't even pay any attention to them for your first few shifts until you get comfortable with the rest of the job. They will just be a distraction.

Absolutely, the best guys I ever worked with were the ones that could see trouble happening before the troublemakers themselves could. People think bouncing is just about cracking skulls, and although that is part of it, there is so much more to it than just that. Here is an example of bouncing at its finest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWfetF1jCO4

Athenathefabulous
05-21-2010, 12:31 PM
I was just saying that I don't plan on posting on the blue side of the forum with the guys who consider themselves Strip Club Junkies because that's not me at all. Not that I don't enjoy a trip to the Strip Club every once in a while, unfortunately I now work for the club I would frequent the most so I imagine I will never be getting another dance at this club again.

actually, i think you should use the blue side as practice for telling perverted customers who like to heckle dancers to fuck off. }:D

not saying that all of the blue is like this, but a significant percentage of it is. just like at the titty bar! :D

Kylea2
05-21-2010, 12:49 PM
^^^ Lol - good practice.

Djoser
05-21-2010, 02:24 PM
Absolutely, the best guys I ever worked with were the ones that could see trouble happening before the troublemakers themselves could. People think bouncing is just about cracking skulls, and although that is part of it, there is so much more to it than just that.

Spot on. Far better to talk potential troublemakers out of the club than to throw them out bodily. Not always possible, of course, but entirely possible and much preferable in many cases. Less noise, less disruption to the club atmosphere, no one knows there was even a problem, vs. a big uproar, everything stopping to watch the fight and yelling, and then the cops and possible lawsuits, etc. Which is better?

We have had so many fights and problems with violence in my club that at this point we are at a disadvantage. If we wind up hurting someone in the process of throwing them out, as can so easily happen, we will probably get fired. Even if they started the shit, we still will get fired. This has happened to three friends of mine in the last 1 1/2 years.

I have a lot less risk as all I do is keep an eye on the dressing room and girls' bathroom and keep the guys from going in, and provide backup should the bouncers be outnumbered. But they have a lot more to worry about.

It's a far cry from my last club in Daytona, where after an initial probationary period, new bouncers were literally required to fuck someone up to keep their job!

It is funny how you can spot troublemakers from the way they walk and talk so often, or if they are trying to grab every girl that walks by, even if she is on her way to stage, etc. I am the DJ, not really a bouncer, but after ten years I can usually spot trouble before it starts, as well.


As far as tipping policy goes, do cut the girls some slack if they had a bad night. The cool ones will remember this and tip you more the next time they bank, and in the long run you will make more. But also watch out for the ones that will lie to you and string you along, claiming they didn't make enough to tip you, when really they made several hundred. There are a lot of them too. You will learn to tell which ones are lying and which ones are cool.

New Bouncer
05-21-2010, 06:40 PM
As far as tipping policy goes, do cut the girls some slack if they had a bad night. The cool ones will remember this and tip you more the next time they bank, and in the long run you will make more. But also watch out for the ones that will lie to you and string you along, claiming they didn't make enough to tip you, when really they made several hundred. There are a lot of them too. You will learn to tell which ones are lying and which ones are cool.
Does the tipping policy hinge on the particular club or is it pretty standard throughout?

I wasn't expecting to be tipped at all but if its standard than I look forward to reaping that money for doing my job well.

Kellydancer
05-21-2010, 06:54 PM
Does the tipping policy hinge on the particular club or is it pretty standard throughout?

I wasn't expecting to be tipped at all but if its standard than I look forward to reaping that money for doing my job well.

Depends on the club. Most of the clubs I danced at tipping wasn't required. I would still tip a bouncer if he did something that went above his job (like helping me get a customer). Other clubs it was "suggested" and others it was a requirement. The bouncers I liked the best (actually I never had problems with a bouncer) were the ones who didn't treat me as a slut or anything like that, just as someone doing a job. I would personally suggest not to get too friendly with the dancers. Do your job, be nice to them, but don't play favorites.

Kylea2
05-21-2010, 06:59 PM
^^^^ Really? Almost all the clubs I've ever worked it was standard to tip the bouncers.

Kellydancer
05-21-2010, 07:17 PM
^^^^ Really? Almost all the clubs I've ever worked it was standard to tip the bouncers.

For me most clubs I didn't have to. Maybe it's because I quit dancing in clubs years ago, or many other reasons. I still did tip those who went out of their way to help me (I did this to any staff member) but it usually wasn't required. I know I'd be livid if I had to tip a bouncer and he didn't even walk me to my car.

Kylea2
05-21-2010, 07:27 PM
^^^ My guess is that probably changed when lap dances became more common. :-( I enjoy lap dances if more customers behaved, but if we went back to none or table dances I'd probably be very happy.

Kellydancer
05-21-2010, 07:49 PM
Possibly. When I danced at clubs (still do parties though less and less) air dances were common and lap dances not so much. Of course that was also when the economy was better anyway so that might make a difference.

New Bouncer
05-22-2010, 01:10 AM
I went into the club tonight with a few buddies to hang out and get to know the bouncers as I was encouraged to do by the owner the night I applied.

They are a tight knit group but were very receptive to me and made me feel at ease. I'm looking forward to starting up work.

As far as the dancers go...well lets just say that if tonight was any indication there will be many interesting stories from my time working at the club.

jasmine22
05-22-2010, 01:27 AM
Your worried about the girls and "temptation"? Yet you've never actually handled anyone physically? I'm sorry but you should worry more about dealing with customers because some of these men are seriously violent assholes, especially when they're drunk. Keeping everyone safe is the most important thing. As a dancer bouncers who walk me to my car and take care of assholes get tipped well from me.

You'll more likely find drama with the girls than temptation....I think working in this industry will kill the fantasy real fast once u see how the girls really are when they arent on stage.

Kylea2
05-22-2010, 01:42 AM
^^^ Agreed, some of the customers are violent. I had a customer/stalker/wanna-be regular that tried to tell the bouncer I was his girlfriend. He sent another bouncer back to the dressing room to ask me, and I told the 2nd bouncer that the customer was NOT my boyfriend. The guy got pissy and threw a glass bottle at the bouncer's head!

Djoser
05-22-2010, 02:00 AM
Haha I remember well this poor damned fool that tried to break a bottle over one of my favorite manager's head. Well, actually, he did break the bottle on his head. I think he (the manager) got a little cut from that, but all the blood on his pants was from the other guy (with the bottle). It looked like he slaughtered a small farm animal or something. That was the wrong guy to mess with...

OTOH some of these guys you throw out will come back with guns. It doesn't matter how big you are, or how muscular, when they have guns.

Two manager friends of mine have gotten shot, one before I worked in the club, one while I was there. The one manager was the toughest bouncer in Daytona for several years--until he got it point blank 2-3 times in the gut, from a .357 I think it was. Anyway he had huge holes in his stomach, I saw them a few years later--it was a miracle he lived.

The other guy was a serious badass as well. But now his left elbow is shattered and his left arm pretty much useless. He saved his life by shielding himself with his left arm when they pulled up next to him and started shooting. But the passenger in the truck was my best friend the DJ who died. They had followed them about 10 minutes, then pulled up next to them after turning their lights off and speeding up.

Then there's that guy who got set on fire in that other thread, jesus.

sunshine16
05-22-2010, 02:08 AM
^^bahahahaa that's freggin great. Anyone in this business that does well has the smarts, not just the looks or size- includes dancers and bouncers. Give the guy total props, kicking a guys ass? Good for the moment but he won't care , or probably remember. Kicking a guys in his ego? Oh, he'll remember. lol.

AngelKing
05-22-2010, 09:05 AM
OTOH some of these guys you throw out will come back with guns. It doesn't matter how big you are, or how muscular, when they have guns.



100% true. And it was after a couple of experiences like you had with your co-workers that I decided that bouncing just wasn't worth it anymore. I'm sorry that had to happen to the people you worked with, and I hope they all recovered well.

These days unfortunately we are faced with violent situations where the only recourse is to take someone to death's door just to keep him from coming back with a gun, and my taste for violence really mellowed out over the years, and I'd really much rather see someone beaten without being beaten.

New Bouncer
05-22-2010, 10:18 AM
Your worried about the girls and "temptation"? Yet you've never actually handled anyone physically? I'm sorry but you should worry more about dealing with customers because some of these men are seriously violent assholes, especially when they're drunk. Keeping everyone safe is the most important thing. As a dancer bouncers who walk me to my car and take care of assholes get tipped well from me.

You'll more likely find drama with the girls than temptation....I think working in this industry will kill the fantasy real fast once u see how the girls really are when they arent on stage.
I guess I phrased it wrong. I am 6'6" and 300 pounds of muscle. I've been in very few fights in my life because people simply do not want to fight me.

My life outside of this new job involves me physically going against guys my own size at full speed. In a real life situation I've thrown five grown men to the ground when they all came at me, I don't consider that a fight because I did not throw punches.

I am more than capable of dealing with violent assholes by myself, much less with the assistance of my team that I spent time getting to know last night.

New Bouncer
05-22-2010, 10:22 AM
Haha I remember well this poor damned fool that tried to break a bottle over one of my favorite manager's head. Well, actually, he did break the bottle on his head. I think he (the manager) got a little cut from that, but all the blood on his pants was from the other guy (with the bottle). It looked like he slaughtered a small farm animal or something. That was the wrong guy to mess with...

OTOH some of these guys you throw out will come back with guns. It doesn't matter how big you are, or how muscular, when they have guns.

Two manager friends of mine have gotten shot, one before I worked in the club, one while I was there. The one manager was the toughest bouncer in Daytona for several years--until he got it point blank 2-3 times in the gut, from a .357 I think it was. Anyway he had huge holes in his stomach, I saw them a few years later--it was a miracle he lived.

The other guy was a serious badass as well. But now his left elbow is shattered and his left arm pretty much useless. He saved his life by shielding himself with his left arm when they pulled up next to him and started shooting. But the passenger in the truck was my best friend the DJ who died. They had followed them about 10 minutes, then pulled up next to them after turning their lights off and speeding up.

Then there's that guy who got set on fire in that other thread, jesus.
This all does sound very serious and dangerous. Luckily the club I will be working in does not have those kinds of issues. It's small, laid back. It doesn't serve alcohol. People are there to have a good time. I talked to one bouncer last night and he said that using the metal detector they have only ever found one gun in 12 years of the club being open.

Most of the clientele are regulars and the bouncers seemed to know most of the people that came in. I will only be working at the club for the summer and I do not anticipate having to deal with any situations remotely close to what you've described. I am not saying it is impossible, just unlikely. It sounds like the scene in Daytona is a lot more dangerous than at the club I'll be working at up here.

Violet_Dawn
05-22-2010, 10:31 AM
for me as a dancer, the hardest part of the night is when I have to go to my car. Our bouncers walks every girl to her car and i always tip nicely, even if i had a shitty shift...i just started and i have had problems with custies waiting for me or other dancers outside. one girl got her car broken into; the custie was hiding in her backseat. had the bouncer not seen movement (observation skills!!) in the car, she would have been SOL.

i have been told, and read on here, that not all bouncers walk girls to their car. your #1 job, as it relates to the dancers, is to keep order and keep the dancers safe. yes, social capital is great, esp when bouncers will direct you to high paying customers, but safety is crucial. that starts from the beginning of your shift to the very end. this is a job that you can't half-ass, b/c the potential for shit going down is too much

a bouncers job is so multi-faceted that to be mostly worried about girls hitting on you is really the least of your worries.

AngelKing
05-22-2010, 10:58 AM
I am 6'6" and 300 pounds of muscle.

Weren't you 270 yesterday?

papillonluvr
05-22-2010, 11:40 AM
^^lol maybe he's rounding up?

As far as tips, at every club I worked at $5-$20 for a bouncer is pretty much required.

Keep an eye on the guys who walk in the door drunk-I work at juice bar and those guys that are already smelling of alcohol are trouble, as are the one's wearing very baggy clothing and/or "bling". They have attitudes.

If a girl comes to you with a problem, deal with it and don't brush her off for later. I've had that happen and the guy I was dancing for ended slapping me and I almost lost $200 for a chamapgne room-he took my money but luckily the manager stopped him.

Really the "temptation" will be non-existant, so start worrying about the real problems you'll have.

Kylea2
05-22-2010, 12:28 PM
If a girl comes to you with a problem, deal with it and don't brush her off for later. I've had that happen and the guy I was dancing for ended slapping me and I almost lost $200 for a chamapgne room-he took my money but luckily the manager stopped him.

I've had problems with bad management/security lately as well. That's a growing problems in the club... and another good reason to go independent! Trust me, when they are only responsible for you and you are paying them their salary - they don't ignore you! 8)

Djoser
05-22-2010, 12:48 PM
Sorry papillonluvr, I would have to say he could indeed have trouble with temptation, from the sounds of it. It seems to be a concern of his, which means there could be a reason to worry--for his girlfriend anyway lol. And if he wants to avoid drama at work. If you sleep with the dancers in your own club, there is always drama.



...I talked to one bouncer last night and he said that using the metal detector they have only ever found one gun in 12 years of the club being open.


Wow, that's pretty tame, yeah. I doubt you'll have much trouble then. In my club at the Keys we find weapons every single night people are trying to bring in, and there are a lot of fights. Not as bad as the one in Daytona, but still.

The Keys are weird that way. It's one of the most peaceful, relaxed places on the planet, and yet violence lurks in the air here, especially when the bigger special events brings the Miami crowd down here.


Weren't you 270 yesterday?

Yeah what's up with that?

New Bouncer
05-23-2010, 01:17 PM
for me as a dancer, the hardest part of the night is when I have to go to my car. Our bouncers walks every girl to her car and i always tip nicely, even if i had a shitty shift...i just started and i have had problems with custies waiting for me or other dancers outside. one girl got her car broken into; the custie was hiding in her backseat. had the bouncer not seen movement (observation skills!!) in the car, she would have been SOL.

i have been told, and read on here, that not all bouncers walk girls to their car. your #1 job, as it relates to the dancers, is to keep order and keep the dancers safe. yes, social capital is great, esp when bouncers will direct you to high paying customers, but safety is crucial. that starts from the beginning of your shift to the very end. this is a job that you can't half-ass, b/c the potential for shit going down is too much

a bouncers job is so multi-faceted that to be mostly worried about girls hitting on you is really the least of your worries.
i walked all the girls out last night which was my first shift and none of them felt inclined to tip me :'(

oh well, the job was very fun and the money is great

New Bouncer
05-23-2010, 01:19 PM
Weren't you 270 yesterday?
I low-balled my weight because most people think fat when they hear 300.

I rarely tell people that I am 300 lbs but it doesn't really matter. To be honest its more of a personal thing since I don't like being as heavy as I am but I am by no means fat. 300 with 4 abs so at the end of the day I'm happy.

New Bouncer
05-23-2010, 01:24 PM
^^lol maybe he's rounding up?

As far as tips, at every club I worked at $5-$20 for a bouncer is pretty much required.

Keep an eye on the guys who walk in the door drunk-I work at juice bar and those guys that are already smelling of alcohol are trouble, as are the one's wearing very baggy clothing and/or "bling". They have attitudes.

If a girl comes to you with a problem, deal with it and don't brush her off for later. I've had that happen and the guy I was dancing for ended slapping me and I almost lost $200 for a chamapgne room-he took my money but luckily the manager stopped him.

Really the "temptation" will be non-existant, so start worrying about the real problems you'll have.
I got lots of practice with patting people down and using the wand last night. I took a knife off of one guy.

The drunk guys definitely got extra attention from me and the very few problems came from the guys who were hammered.

As far as non-existent that's not further from the truth seeing as I already had one girl simply give me her phone number and another invite me to hang out after work. It's not like they came right out and said "lets fuck" but both of those actions I just described are indications that they would like to in my experience.

I figure its mostly because I'm the new guy in the club so I'm going to get some extra attention from the girls.

I threw away the number and declined the invitation to hang out from the other dancer, my girl doesn't have anything to worry about but the temptation will definitely be relevant.

sunshine16
05-23-2010, 01:24 PM
i walked all the girls out last night which was my first shift and none of them felt inclined to tip me :'(

oh well, the job was very fun and the money is great

Exactly-it was your first shift. Once they get to know you, and you help them out etc, I'm sure they'll start tipping.

New Bouncer
05-23-2010, 01:29 PM
Sorry papillonluvr, I would have to say he could indeed have trouble with temptation, from the sounds of it. It seems to be a concern of his, which means there could be a reason to worry--for his girlfriend anyway lol. And if he wants to avoid drama at work. If you sleep with the dancers in your own club, there is always drama.




Wow, that's pretty tame, yeah. I doubt you'll have much trouble then. In my club at the Keys we find weapons every single night people are trying to bring in, and there are a lot of fights. Not as bad as the one in Daytona, but still.

The Keys are weird that way. It's one of the most peaceful, relaxed places on the planet, and yet violence lurks in the air here, especially when the bigger special events brings the Miami crowd down here.



Yeah what's up with that?
It is definitely pretty tame, my last couple of posts kind of described how it went last night which was a Saturday.

Had a few guys try to touch the girls where they shouldn't. We were on high alert during the time when the DJ called all the dancers to the stage (I don't know if that's something that is par for the course at all clubs) and people came up to fluff their butts and tip. I was told we almost always have to throw someone out from that but last night I just had to give one guy a warning during the time they were all on stage.

The guy I worked with was great with telling me what to do in what situation and about how we work as a team. He said I seem to have a natural eye for seeing the guys who will potentially cause trouble, it seems like common sense to me.

As I said a few posts ago, I did take a knife off of a guy last night. It is beyond me why he would leave it clipped on his belt when he saw his three friends in front of him get wanded. Probably the fact that he didn't speak any English. Suffice to say I wanded him every single time he came back inside the club from getting more alcohol outside. He didn't try to bring anything else in.

New Bouncer
05-23-2010, 01:32 PM
Exactly-it was your first shift. Once they get to know you, and you help them out etc, I'm sure they'll start tipping.
Hopefully but I'm not expecting it, my partner told me that he doesn't get tipped by the girls because they are stingy at our club. He said to target the older, well dressed customers, get them cups, get them a nice seat, send the best girls their way, etc for the best chance at getting tips from the customers.

He legitimately said he gets tipped more by customers than by dancers and he's not a dick, all of the girls are very friendly with him.

But I'm happy with the money I made last night, tips would just be icing on the cake.

mediocrity
05-23-2010, 01:36 PM
I thought I'd add that I'm seeing someone and have no intentions of cheating on her with anyone, much less a coworker.

Do any of you think that I will have to deal with advances from any of the girls?

I'm a nice, outgoing, attractive man so its not uncommon for me to get hit on. I'm hoping that I do not have to deal with this at the club but would you girls be surprised if I did?

My husband has managed strip clubs for many, many years. He and I currently work in the same club.

Do girls flirt with him? Sure, he's a cute guy. He gives the girls hugs, and is very caring towards them. He gave a girl a lift home the other night, even though it was only 12 blocks away. But I also know that's where it stops.

SCs are like restaurants in the fact that everyone seems to get very close and little more touchy feely with each other than a normal job. Just be honest with your girlfriend, and don't take the flirtation further than you're comfortable with, and everything will be fine. :)

AdventureBaby
05-23-2010, 03:39 PM
i walked all the girls out last night which was my first shift and none of them felt inclined to tip me :'(

oh well, the job was very fun and the money is great

Is it mandatory the girls be walked to their cars? Some girls do NOT want to be walked to their cars, therefore they feel they shouldn't HAVE to tip.

Main thing is you enjoyed your job!

New Bouncer
05-23-2010, 03:47 PM
Is it mandatory the girls be walked to their cars? Some girls do NOT want to be walked to their cars, therefore they feel they shouldn't HAVE to tip.

Main thing is you enjoyed your job!
It's not mandatory they just feel better that way. I wasn't really sad about not getting tipped, protecting them is my responsibility and its one of the things I get paid for by the club, I really wouldn't expect a tip for walking them 20 yds to their car (small parking lot).

AdventureBaby
05-23-2010, 04:09 PM
It's not mandatory they just feel better that way. I wasn't really sad about not getting tipped, protecting them is my responsibility and its one of the things I get paid for by the club, I really wouldn't expect a tip for walking them 20 yds to their car (small parking lot).

Being that it is NOT mandatory explains you NOT getting tipped. Clubs that require dancers be walked to their cars will tell the dancer when she's hired WHO to TIP ... of course it doesn't mean the dancers will tip ... sometimes dancers don't tip because they didn't make any money.

BTW ... great attitude! In this harsh industry it's nice hearing a bouncer caring so much about his new job :)

I'm just curious, are you working in DC or Baltimore? I LOVE DC ... was suppose to move there back in 2006 but stuff happened and I didn't. When I was there I didn't check out the clubs because I heard they do NOT like dancers w/ ink. I was told to check out the block in Baltimore but others told me it's a dangerous area ... so I got scared and never checked out the scene. Would be nice to someday be able to work out there when I'm back in DC ... miss that city soooooo much!

papillonluvr
05-23-2010, 08:02 PM
I threw away the number and declined the invitation to hang out from the other dancer, my girl doesn't have anything to worry about but the temptation will definitely be relevant.

As long as you don't plan on cheating on your girl and want to be with her, then temptation shouldn't be an issue. Tempation will be there, but imho i don't think it should be a problem.

From what you were saying, it seems like you'll be more of a temptation to the girls, lol. }:D ;)

New Bouncer
05-23-2010, 08:55 PM
As long as you don't plan on cheating on your girl and want to be with her, then temptation shouldn't be an issue. Tempation will be there, but imho i don't think it should be a problem.

From what you were saying, it seems like you'll be more of a temptation to the girls, lol. }:D ;)
Think about it like this:

say you never ever took anything in your life that wasn't yours but you saw an unguarded pile of money

would you not be tempted to take it?

even if you DID NOT take it

was that temptation not relevant?

at least...thats how i explained it to my girl haha

AdventureBaby
05-24-2010, 06:17 AM
Think about it like this:

say you never ever took anything in your life that wasn't yours but you saw an unguarded pile of money

would you not be tempted to take it?

even if you DID NOT take it

was that temptation not relevant?

at least...thats how i explained it to my girl haha

Haha ... good one!

My granny (who is a strict catholic) once told me ... Men and women will look at the opposite sex. It's natural and anyone who says they don't is a liar. It's one thing to look, but it's a different thing to touch.

joyount
06-11-2010, 04:20 AM
WOW great your tall...and I think great muscles....
do you have your pic?? post it here...thanks

New Bouncer
06-13-2010, 10:49 PM
I've been working almost every night since I made this thread, been able to make a bunch of $ and meet a lot of very cool/nice people.

You couldn't pay me to quit