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kthnx
06-22-2010, 10:27 AM
^ treatment with antiretroviral meds costs an average of $26,000/yr...adds up to $600,000 for the remainder of the person's (shortened) life...that is WAY more expensive than raising a kid!...or buying a (middle class) house too for that matter.

hiv meds have come along way since hiv was discovered in the early 80s. back then it was a "death sentence" but not now...someone on hiv antiretrovirals can live 20-30+ yrs with it...and thats not including any newer more advanced meds that maybe developed within those next 20-30yrs.

rumor has it that pharma companies are very close to finding a cure for hiv but do not want it released becuz theyd make alot more money charging people for ongoing treatment year after year of the person's hiv riddled life.

so its not so much a "death sentence" anymore, but given the costs its definitely a "DEBT sentence"!

!!!

the good news for lara roxx is, shes in canada and their healthcare system is more socialised than in america...so that might help make the cost of treatment somewhat more within her reach.

sactinydancersf
08-05-2010, 06:49 PM
I have clients that vary their rate and they work frequently... I have other clients that only do B/G for $3000 and anal for $5000 and they work once in a while. Some pornstars that are true stars can get that rate but they are in the top 10% of all performers.

Average is probably $500-$1200 for B/G and $400-$800 for G/G as a basis.

Two to three years ago I have clients that were making $250k-$350k just off scenes.

The top stars can make $10k in a weekend of feature dancing. $750-$1200 per hour to escort.

They can make $250-$500 a day camming depending on the number of hours put in.

They can make $2000-$12,000 a month off their websites....

Basically it varies based upon your popularity, demand and business savy.

Other big name stars I know arent working at all.... It is a strange time in the industry.

This is pretty close to accurate. If you have a good agent (LA Direct Models, Type 9 Models, A List Talent, Big Love Talent, Goldstar Modelling) the standard industry rate is $700 for g/g and $1000 for b/g. Rates generally stay about that, but if your popularity grows they can go up... or down. But not by very much.

You realistically cannot start feature dancing until you've done porn for at least one year from what I've been told and you should really only expect to make 2k-5k for about 4 days work unless you're a HUGE star (I.e. Tori Black, Jessica Drake, Audrey Bitoni)... although a lot of this will depend on your rate per show and which club you're dancing at.

Websites are great, but again, thiey take time to grow and if you consistently work on your site there is no cap but it won't make even 2K a month overnight.

I don't know about escorting, aside from I would assume you could charge higher hourly rates after having done porn.

As far as camming, you can charge a tiny bit more but what I ahve noticed is that even on IMLive I NEVER have an empty private room, so it really has a lot more to do with how long you can handle being on cam in private chat. $100 an hour seems like a ton of money, but after you get used to making $1000 for a 4 hour sex scene same day pay you'd be surprised how hard it is to motivate.

Hope this helps. (Btw, I personally would discourage entering porn right now).

Angel75217
08-08-2010, 04:04 PM
The only "porn star" I knew got like $100 a vid and as much drugs as she wanted before the vid, I kid you not. That's not to say that would be everyones experience, but that's what she did and she looked like shit all messed up on the stuff. I never understood why anyone would want to see her, it's easy to tell when someone is strung out.

Harleigh HellKat
08-08-2010, 04:52 PM
Sounds like a craigslist pornstar to me. Anyone doing full on B/G for 100 a video would hafta be on drugs!

Kylea2
08-08-2010, 08:42 PM
This is pretty close to accurate. If you have a good agent (LA Direct Models, Type 9 Models, A List Talent, Big Love Talent, Goldstar Modelling) the standard industry rate is $700 for g/g and $1000 for b/g. Rates generally stay about that, but if your popularity grows they can go up... or down. But not by very much.

You realistically cannot start feature dancing until you've done porn for at least one year from what I've been told and you should really only expect to make 2k-5k for about 4 days work unless you're a HUGE star (I.e. Tori Black, Jessica Drake, Audrey Bitoni)... although a lot of this will depend on your rate per show and which club you're dancing at.

I think the rates might depend on age, location, & popularity. One of my friends who has been in the industry more than 6 yrs would be happy at this rate to be offered that much.

On the feature dancing, you can also go the showgirl route & get pageant titles to go on the road.

Kellydancer
08-09-2010, 12:38 PM
$100 for a video? Back when I did the video in 1996 I made more than that (and no drugs on the set). That's disturbing. I make that amount (or even more) just modeling nude, no way would I do more.

Harleigh HellKat
08-09-2010, 06:56 PM
^Ditto.

alexa111
08-09-2010, 07:39 PM
Yeah no real company would only pay 100! Even solo scenes get more then 100...

Lady Xplicit18
08-11-2010, 11:18 PM
That sucks sooo bad! I wouldn't know what to do with myself afterward the fact. :-\

domino.damoiselle
08-12-2010, 07:32 AM
HIV can take weeks or years to show up on blood tests, so of course its a good chance that the actor's AIM blood tests came back "clean". Sad, sad situation. Unfortunately she was put in a position where she was bullied & probably lied to. She didn't stick to her original plan (condom scenes which were conventional) and that could have protected her... but even then we can't be 100% sure. When you have sex you take a risk... that is always true whether it be in porn or not.

The industry does the best it can at protecting actors, but given that it is sex there isn't a 100% full proof method to protect everyone - especially those who veer off... such as her partner who had sex outside the US porn industry. There will always be "rule breakers". Generally those in the US porn industry know that they are expected to be tested and to only have sex with those the know/believe to know are safe - such as a monogamous partner. There are people who don't want to do that though and they can cause the industry a lot of problems.

Beyond the scare of HIV there are other diseases common in the industry. I've met actresses who have caught chlamydia & gonorrhea... which are at least curable. However herpes (which is non-curable) is pretty rampant in the industry & my understanding is that at this point it's pretty much considered an occupational hazard... doctors simply prescribe meds to keep a person from having the symptoms once its caught. BellaDonna talks about herpes here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9zeLmK_LEA & basically says she believes that 99.9% of the industry probably has herpes. She strongly suggests getting a full STD panel before getting into porn so you know if you catch anything in the business or if you had it before.


I did a shoot for Reality Kingz (it was total bullshit- but that's an entirely different story) and while they tested everyone that was supposed to shoot, I left for LA on a Tuesday and had my test done on Monday I think. I went, did the shoot (which ended up being a guy/girl/gonzo shoot when I signed up for GIRL GIRL ONLY!) and THEN got my test results on FRIDAY. I was clean, but the point is THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW!!!!!! Who knows if anyone else had their results back! I'm so glad I ended up telling them to go fuck themselves, I'm not fucking some random douchebags, I signed up for girl/girl. I still got paid ($850 and it took about 3 hours) but I never got called back to do another shoot. Fine. If that's the way it's going to be, I NEVER want to do porn. I wrote an article about this on my blog. I don't recommend porn for the going rates. Even the $850 for what I did was too little. I had to put my son in daycare for the time I was gone, pay for food, the hotel I was in didn't have wifi, so I went down the street to the Ramada.. it wasn't worth it. Plus, it was cold in LA.

CKXXX
08-12-2010, 09:26 AM
^^ RK didnt check your test first? Not saying i dont believe you, because there are always oddities.,..but that IS odd. I've worked for them several times and they have always been diligent about checking tests.

Also...NEVER do a shoot unless YOU have seen everyone you are shooting with's test personally. Unless I see it...not someone said it was ok...I dont shoot. Nobody ever has an issue with it. If they did..they'd have something to hide and I wouldnt shoot with them anyway so no loss.

I've had tests that were ONE DAY overdue and not one studio would accept it. Not that I asked them to...I just said when they wanted to book me that the say of the shoot would be a day after my test expired and the shoot date was moved. Nobody ever said "Well, its just ONE day..thats ok".

Porn is like anything else in the entertainment industry. it isnt for everyone and you HAVE to do your research and look out for yourself or you will get screwed over. If you dont take responsibility for yourself by getting all the info you can, checking everyones test, saying NO when someone wants you to do something beyond what you were booked for...etc...etc...then you have nobody to blame but yourself. Yeah they would be assholes for screwing you over....but if you had done your research you would have known to expect that and how to handle it.

malayataylor
08-12-2010, 09:45 AM
at least with escorting you pick and choose who you want to see and you get tested regularly for EVERYTHING and just not SOMEthing.

It takes a very SMART and BOLD woman to get into escorting and do it safely.

I wouldn't recommend porn to anyone but at least it's legal. I just couldn't imagine getting paid $400 -$500 a scene and have a video of me available to millions to watch. It's such a rip off to me!

tmlsuperspice
08-12-2010, 10:04 AM
Check out GETTING INTO PORN (http://www.monicaf.com/GettingIntoPorn/), a blog by Monica Foster.

Plus, keep in mind that the REAL money made in porn is in distribution and production!

Kellydancer
08-12-2010, 01:36 PM
Very true... I feel you on that. Escorting didn't work for me but I do believe that there's a niche for everybody in this industry. I'm just glad that I went through all that shyt early, at least now I know what doesn't work for me. I'm glad that escorting works for you... hopefully I can find something that works for me other then webcamming.

That's exactly it, finding what works for you (you in general, not you specifically). I too did a porno and I felt dirty. I was doing something that I normally did with boyfriends and doing it with a virtual stranger (good looking guy but still someone I met that day and never saw again). I couldn't do escorting either because of this. For me jobs like stripper, model, and phone sex operator worked for me because there wasn't direct contact though in dancing they often tried. I know others who tried dancing and hated it, but loved escorting or porn.

Kellydancer
08-12-2010, 10:46 PM
I feel you. I didn't have a problem having sex with different ppl.. that part was fun lol. It was like every little problem I did have with porn/escorting magnified into one huge problem. I wish I could work those jobs cuz the money was lovely but it weighed on my heart/mind way to much.

I wish I could do phone sexs but I hate talking on the phone. Plus, when I think about hearing guys stroke and moan in my ear.... ugh it makes me want to cruel up into a little ball and cover my ears lol. Its weird cause it doesn't bother me when I watch guys stroke during a camshow or even hear them. Seriously a case of different strokes for different folks lol.

But its nice to hear and talk aout what works for other ppl. I wish I found the forum way back in the day lol.

I wish there was a forum back when I started dancing because I think I might have done things differently. Not better, just different. Phone sex was odd because you could tell the guys were getting off and it was an odd feeling knowing that. It's funny because dancing for guys didn't turn me on at all but I loved turning on men. The movie I did I didn't get turned on at all. I kept looking at the clock going I can't wait until it's over. Then I went home and took a shower and cried. It actually changed my life because it's partly the reason I became somewhat of a prude when it comes to sex.

salemsexy
08-12-2010, 11:06 PM
I did one scene back in 2006, it was on the eastcoast for a b/g scene and it paid $400. They would of offered me more if I did anal but anal is only for the boyfriend lol. I was contacted by ghetto gaggers around that time and they said they paid $1000 for a scene for newgirls. I'm not into that rough, rough shyt so I declined. So I'm sure well know stars are getting paid a lot more for those types of scenes.

I really wanted to be a pornstar but once I did a scene I found out that there was so much shyt that I didn't like. I had no control over the ppl I worked with.... like if someone was ugly I would have to work with them anyways lol. I wanted to do condoms only and I was told that I wasn't going to book any gigs that way. I had to get aim tested, that shyt was $180 every 30days.. and I of course had to pay for it out of my own pocket.

I wanted to use the scene that I did for my website and I had to pay what regular customers paid in order to get a copy of the content. I wasn't upset that I had to pay, I was pissed because I wasn't even offered a discount. Needless to say I didn't bother getting a copy. I found out that anyone who bought my content from that site was able to resell in anyway they wanted and I of course didn't get paid for that. So, they've made more selling 3 copies of the content then I made in that one shoot.

I know some will disagree but porn is different for black girls. I haven't seen a black girl get a contract in ages. I know black girls get paid lower then others and the type of scenes that are offered are usually some shyt were there from the hood or the little token black girl. But on a side note pay also varies based on your location (L.A./Florida), your look, and what your whiling to do.

Another thing I hated was how a majority of the scene's were catered to men and there climax. I don't fake it in real life and it was horrible having to fake it for a scene. I watch porn now and I can tell when a girl is faking it, especially when her pussy is dry as fuck lol.

I honestly thought about doing my own porn but I really don't care to worry about stds/hiv (condom or not). I no longer have an interest to do any porn. Well except webcam and clip4sale but thats a different type of porn as far as I'm concerned. There's no amount of money a person can offer me to do xxxporn again. I love that I have complete control over everything now.

Since the recession alot of pornstars are forced to incorporate other things to make ends meet. I wish I didn't even bother with it because there's so many other ways to make money with your sexuality without having to risk your health. They tell you its safe but they fuckin lye lol.. getting an std from that shyt does happen.... don't believe the hype that it doesn't.

I wouldn't recommend porn or v.i.p escorting to my worst enemy.


I really agree with you porn and any real sex stuff seems to damm stressful and all the faking! all porn goes after is the mans cum not the girls and the way the females are treated you would have to fake cum!

Porn is only for men and it never shows what a female really likes or wants! I hate porn period!

CKXXX
08-13-2010, 09:42 AM
at least with escorting you pick and choose who you want to see and you get tested regularly for EVERYTHING and just not SOMEthing.

It takes a very SMART and BOLD woman to get into escorting and do it safely.

I wouldn't recommend porn to anyone but at least it's legal. I just couldn't imagine getting paid $400 -$500 a scene and have a video of me available to millions to watch. It's such a rip off to me!
Werent you the one who was JUST bitching that people were knocking escorting on this board? And yet here you are knocking porn...which has worked out very well for many of us. Me included. Everything has its pros and cons...and you have to choose whats right for you. But for people to be all "eww" and " thats a rip off" "Dont do it!"...kinda defeats the purpose of this section.

alexa111
08-13-2010, 09:46 AM
I really agree with you porn and any real sex stuff seems to damm stressful and all the faking! all porn goes after is the mans cum not the girls and the way the females are treated you would have to fake cum!

Porn is only for men and it never shows what a female really likes or wants! I hate porn period!

Just for the record, I have actually cum for real and had fun in many of my porn scenes. It's not for everyone, but don't assume that every porn girl fakes it the whole time, hates her job and is treated badly. That's no better then assuming every stripper is a drug addicted hooker.

Porn has not made me rich, but the exposure has helped me with camming, my websites, and selling customs. And I had fun doing it and had a lot of crazy sex I would've never had in my personal life!

Kellydancer
08-13-2010, 10:43 AM
Mzdeniro, I don't think you are hijacking the thread, nor bad mouthing porn. It's not for you just like it wasn't for me. I knew several porn people (one was a couple) and I never knew how they could do it for years because after the one video I felt ashamed. It did mess me up for awhile and my feelings were screwed up for a few years because of it, but some people can handle it. I don't think bad of those who do it at all, I just know for me the reality was different than the fantasy. At one point I had this fantasy of being a porn star but after doing the one video I knew that wasn't possible. After the video I just went back to being a dancer and model only and was fine with that.

DevonSantos
08-13-2010, 12:54 PM
I guess I'm just one of those money hungry bitches that sees porn as one of those business's where if it's not going to make me RICH then fuck it! I''ll just dance, cam, or something else far from it! Women know their options upon considering and entering porn so I'm highly under the impression that the porn stars that perform in these films actually ''enjoy'' doing it or else they would not be doing it at all. I was brought up in the era of the ''Jenna Jameson business platform'' of making millions off of porn and not a few couple of grand that could have easily been made from one night of VIP in a champagne room in a Vegas stripclub. To leave from the porn business to working a 9-5 or some other shit just isn't worth it at ALL to me! If I'm doing porn once I'm done I should be retired and set for life. Fuck the bullshit!

Brandy_Rose
08-13-2010, 05:52 PM
I haven't done porn in about 5 years, but when I did I made minimum $1,500 per scene. I also had an agent which helped a lot. I did movies under the name Mya Rose. For me $1,500+ is alot, maybe for someone else it's not.

I do not think new porn stars make in the thousands anymore, I'm pretty sure starting pay is much less unless you really have something to wow people with.

malayataylor
08-14-2010, 02:08 AM
Werent you the one who was JUST bitching that people were knocking escorting on this board? And yet here you are knocking porn...which has worked out very well for many of us. Me included. Everything has its pros and cons...and you have to choose whats right for you. But for people to be all "eww" and " thats a rip off" "Dont do it!"...kinda defeats the purpose of this section.


WTF is wrong with you? How was that knocking porn? I don't give a damn if anyone knocks escorting but I will give my take on it. Noone's paying me to defend escorting or knock porn so I could give a shit less. Umm no it does NOT defeat the purpose of this section because I was giving my opinion. Before you start posting your nonsense read the other posts I made about porn I for one, was NOT knocking it. Just like I wouldn't do porn a lot of people wouldn't escort.. Plain and fucking simple.


escorting can be a fun and safe job for the right person so can porn. I just hate that with porn you have very little control. Dancing sucked for me. Even 500 in 6 hours of easy-medium hustling just wasn't worth it to me.. the whole walking around naked for free just didn't sit too well with me/talking to men trying to convince them to buy a fucking dance pffft. Hustling sucks! Camming is fun but it can get boring quick but gotta love camming it has more pros than any other job in the industry. Just gotta do what's right for you.

Oh I'm knocking porn but I made this post on another thread . Take your bullshit accusations somewhere else.

malayataylor
08-14-2010, 02:30 AM
I guess I'm just one of those money hungry bitches that sees porn as one of those business's where if it's not going to make me RICH then fuck it! I''ll just dance, cam, or something else far from it! Women know their options upon considering and entering porn so I'm highly under the impression that the porn stars that perform in these films actually ''enjoy'' doing it or else they would not be doing it at all. I was brought up in the era of the ''Jenna Jameson business platform'' of making millions off of porn and not a few couple of grand that could have easily been made from one night of VIP in a champagne room in a Vegas stripclub. To leave from the porn business to working a 9-5 or some other shit just isn't worth it at ALL to me! If I'm doing porn once I'm done I should be retired and set for life. Fuck the bullshit!

This!

Exactly Devon!

My biggest problem with porn is getting filmed and having my videos distributed nationwide for very little pay. Sure porn is legal and SOMETIMES safe ( porn stars are NOT fully tested for everything) sure pay me $1,500-$2,000 a scene and maybe I'll think about but what are the odds of that happening? Would I recommend someone do porn? No. Would I recommend someone become an escort? No. These are decisions one makes on their own.

For me at least with escorting, I can go and make $400-$475 an hour and leave the appointment without fear of Oh the whole world is going to see this tomorrow. 10-16 years from now whether is running my own non adult business or working as a nurse I do NOT want to be recognized as "Annaanalxxx". Alot of people want to be recognized for that kind of thing..not me. When I exit this industry I wanna make a nice and clean exit. This is my problem with porn. Escorting you can contract an STD just like in porn but smart women both escorts and porn stars take extra measures in protecting themselves. Escorting is not legal Yes you can get arrestedhowever, the chance is very slim if you screen and take extra measures when going to or taking an appointment. Again I have never had a bad date as an escort, I have never felt violated as an escort, I am healthy have never had an STD before or during my career as an escort, I love my job as an escort (and I have a lots of pornstar friends that would say the same about porn)

but I just don't want millions of people to watch me fuck someone just because I was paid
$300-$1000 a scene. Pay me more money and I'm game! Yes I am a greedy bitch!

If it was some Jenna Jameson type deal then hell yeah I'm all for porn but just like Devon, I'm also a money hungry bitch. I like to have my cake and eat it too. If I could do porn and NOT have to work after that like retire and be set for life then BRING IT ON but I know the chances of that happening in this day and age is slim to none. I have agents from a list and worldwide modeling begging me to do porn but hell no I'm not going for it. I have thought about it but NO I do what's best for me.


I guess I've now knocked both escorting and porn!

Harleigh HellKat
08-14-2010, 11:47 AM
^I had an agency contact me that worked with Hustler. I told them I was game as long as it was only G/G and solo or fetish.... they said no deal unless I did B/G! I would do porn if it was only G/G or solo but not boy/girl because that is my limit. I politely declined on their offer.

I do clothed/topless fetish vids and make what some of the local solo and G/G rates are.

Kellydancer
08-14-2010, 12:01 PM
This!

Exactly Devon!

My biggest problem with porn is getting filmed and having my videos distributed nationwide for very little pay. Sure porn is legal and SOMETIMES safe ( porn stars are NOT fully tested for everything) sure pay me $1,500-$2,000 a scene and maybe I'll think about but what are the odds of that happening? Would I recommend someone do porn? No. Would I recommend someone become an escort? No. These are decisions one makes on their own.

For me at least with escorting, I can go and make $400-$475 an hour and leave the appointment without fear of Oh the whole world is going to see this tomorrow. 10-16 years from now whether is running my own non adult business or working as a nurse I do NOT want to be recognized as "Annaanalxxx". Alot of people want to be recognized for that kind of thing..not me. When I exit this industry I wanna make a nice and clean exit. This is my problem with porn. Escorting you can contract an STD just like in porn but smart women both escorts and porn stars take extra measures in protecting themselves. Escorting is not legal Yes you can get arrestedhowever, the chance is very slim if you screen and take extra measures when going to or taking an appointment. Again I have never had a bad date as an escort, I have never felt violated as an escort, I am healthy have never had an STD before or during my career as an escort, I love my job as an escort (and I have a lots of pornstar friends that would say the same about porn)

but I just don't want millions of people to watch me fuck someone just because I was paid
$300-$1000 a scene. Pay me more money and I'm game! Yes I am a greedy bitch!

If it was some Jenna Jameson type deal then hell yeah I'm all for porn but just like Devon, I'm also a money hungry bitch. I like to have my cake and eat it too. If I could do porn and NOT have to work after that like retire and be set for life then BRING IT ON but I know the chances of that happening in this day and age is slim to none. I have agents from a list and worldwide modeling begging me to do porn but hell no I'm not going for it. I have thought about it but NO I do what's best for me.


I guess I've now knocked both escorting and porn!

You bring up a good point that many don't realize, and that is after a porn career has ended. Most people will never be major porn stars and many will eventually leave the sex industry. However, once your face is out there it could affect future jobs. I often wonder about that myself because I have done modeling along with videos. Most of the modeling I've done is very tame, Playboy type stuff, but I did do a hardcore porn video along with several softcore videos. So far it hasn't showed up, but what if it did? This is something I never realized until I quit the business (I still do a party here and there and sometimes model).

malayataylor
08-14-2010, 12:09 PM
^I had an agency contact me that worked with Hustler. I told them I was game as long as it was only G/G and solo or fetish.... they said no deal unless I did B/G! I would do porn if it was only G/G or solo but not boy/girl because that is my limit. I politely declined on their offer.

I do clothed/topless fetish vids and make what some of the local solo and G/G rates are.

Same here Harleigh. Worldwide was willing to pay for all my expenses while in Cali. I told them I wanted to do G/G only and he said "Well you won't make the big bucks but I can see what I can do".. That alone was a downer..pretty much what made me say hell no! I feel safer fuckin myself online and getting paid for it. At least If I put a vid of me fucking myself or someone else online I'd get paid EVERY TIME that vid was bought right?

To each their own!

Harleigh HellKat
08-14-2010, 12:16 PM
I wish there was a such thing as royalties in porn! That would make it so much more worthwhile.

malayataylor
08-14-2010, 12:19 PM
You bring up a good point that many don't realize, and that is after a porn career has ended. Most people will never be major porn stars and many will eventually leave the sex industry. However, once your face is out there it could affect future jobs. I often wonder about that myself because I have done modeling along with videos. Most of the modeling I've done is very tame, Playboy type stuff, but I did do a hardcore porn video along with several softcore videos. So far it hasn't showed up, but what if it did? This is something I never realized until I quit the business (I still do a party here and there and sometimes model).

Kelly, What are the odds of someone noticing you on one vid? Very slim. I wouldn't worry about one scene if I were you. I have had people pretty much accuse me of doing porn because they saw someone that "kinda" looked like me lol. There are porn stars that WANT to be recognized... but think about it.. why do you think a lot of porn stars quit porn and become escorts and charge insane amounts of cash an hour? C'mon .. uh a guaranteed $1000 an hour for sex with a client in PRIVATE and a guaranteed 500 to have sex on film where you will be seen by millions? Shit I'll take the 1k..

I just don't want to be recognized. If I'm going to be known as "Annaxxx" my whole life I better be sitting on ridiculous amounts of money.

malayataylor
08-14-2010, 12:20 PM
I wish there was a such thing as royalties in porn! That would make it so much more worthwhile.

Now that would be kool!

Kellydancer
08-14-2010, 12:26 PM
Kelly, What are the odds of someone noticing you on one vid? Very slim. I wouldn't worry about one scene if I were you. I have had people pretty much accuse me of doing porn because they saw someone that "kinda" looked like me lol. There are porn stars that WANT to be recognized... but think about it.. why do you think a lot of porn stars quit porn and become escorts and charge insane amounts of cash an hour? C'mon .. uh a guaranteed $1000 an hour for sex with a client in PRIVATE and a guaranteed 500 to have sex on film where you will be seen by millions? Shit I'll take the 1k..

I just don't want to be recognized. If I'm going to be known as "Annaxxx" my whole life I better be sitting on ridiculous amounts of money.

I usually don't worry because so far it's never showed up (and I believe the company went bankrupt ten years ago so it was never on dvd). It's something I didn't think about then but do now because you never know. I am more worried the modeling photos will appear, but they are all tame too so I'd probably brush it aside. Actually, I think one of my former regulars recognized me awhile back but he didn't say anything (and I wasn't sure it was him either). What's going to be interesting is I am planning eventually to move to the area where I danced at three (now defunct) clubs. It will be funny if I run into customers at the store.

malayataylor
08-14-2010, 12:34 PM
I usually don't worry because so far it's never showed up (and I believe the company went bankrupt ten years ago so it was never on dvd). It's something I didn't think about then but do now because you never know. I am more worried the modeling photos will appear, but they are all tame too so I'd probably brush it aside. Actually, I think one of my former regulars recognized me awhile back but he didn't say anything (and I wasn't sure it was him either). What's going to be interesting is I am planning eventually to move to the area where I danced at three (now defunct) clubs. It will be funny if I run into customers at the store.

Kelly, I wouldn't sweat it at all. You can easily deny one. ha but if you had about 15 out there that would be a different story.

Again all power to the women that do porn...I'm convinced they love it since they're doing it with the pay being the way it is.

I've read so much shit about Jenna Jameson. How she's this and that and how she looks cracked out now bla bla bla... F all that.. She's effin smart and She's pretty much set for life!

Harleigh HellKat
08-14-2010, 12:35 PM
^Yup. She made it work for her. That's what it's all about. Making whatever you do, no matter what it is, work.

Wildgrl90
08-14-2010, 12:58 PM
Conclusion: It just isn't worth it.

That depends on how you look at it. Cost and Worth are two separate things. The Porn business is a 40 BILLION dollar a year industry. People are making money. It's just not the models. Something like 1:10,000 become the next "Jenna".

It really depends on how much your willing to do, how far you're willing to go, and most importantly - your long term plans. Can you stay clean and work it like a business? If so, your chances increased 100x. If you fall into the party & drug crowd (which is easy to do) your future potential is very very limited.

Your not gonna bank diddly on doing one or two porno's. The money isn't there. What IS there is the promotion that comes along with the movies. If they promote the hell out the movie, that's all ching "potential" to you in any private business you do (webcam, dancing, escort, etc). Your now a "porn star", which almost immediately makes you a "feature" attraction in anything else - except other movies.

However - If you sign a non-complete clause. Meaning, you can't promote yourself outside the company, you may not be able to claim your prize. (the promotion). non-compete clause might get you a higher pay rate for that one movie, but you suffer in the long term.

CKXXX
08-14-2010, 02:20 PM
Malaya..you know what...I'm not going to search through everything to prove my point. i dont care that much. But you ARE saying all the cons about porn and making it look SO bad while escorting is SO much better. For YOU maybe. And you can scream and yell all you want ( and I know you will because thats just what you do)to try and make it look like you werent..but you were. Period.

I have NEVER knocked escorting...I've said why I PERSONALLY choose not to, but I've also said that I totally understand and support those who do. I dont go around saying "escorting is so gross and you have to do stuff with disgusting old men and blah blah blah' to try and justify why I didnt choose that route. Just because it isnt right for YOU doesnt mean its ok to talk shit about it. Ive been in porn for years and have never had anyone drug me or beat me or rape or what have you.

Like someone else said...saying that porn is always like that is like saying strippers are always junkies with 12 babydaddies or escorts are just whores paying a pimp or drug habit.

malayataylor
08-14-2010, 04:44 PM
Malaya..you know what...I'm not going to search through everything to prove my point. i dont care that much. But you ARE saying all the cons about porn and making it look SO bad while escorting is SO much better. For YOU maybe. And you can scream and yell all you want ( and I know you will because thats just what you do)to try and make it look like you werent..but you were. Period.

Yup I have said I don't understand why others do porn BECAUSE of the low pay. Yes I said it what else did I say about porn? I never said I was a fan of porn so at least I'm being consistent. I said escorting is awesome for ME. I get tons of pms everyday from girls wanting to get into escorting and I ignore it just because they're trying to get into it for the wrong reasons. Fact of the matter is escorting or porn is NOT for everyone. Why would I scream and yell? We're having a conversation and you tell me that I am knocking porn .. not right. Why don't you get on others but noooo you pick me to yell at. I have lots of pornstar friends that genuinely love what they do.. nothing wrong with that.


I have NEVER knocked escorting...I've said why I PERSONALLY choose not to, but I've also said that I totally understand and support those who do. I dont go around saying "escorting is so gross and you have to do stuff with disgusting old men and blah blah blah' to try and justify why I didnt choose that route. Just because it isnt right for YOU doesnt mean its ok to talk shit about it. Ive been in porn for years and have never had anyone drug me or beat me or rape or what have you.

:) You can say what you want about what I do for a living. Think what you want hun It dosen't bother me, Money talks everything else is bull. I was never talking shit about it I just stated why I don't like porn and you're getting upset.



Like someone else said...saying that porn is always like that is like saying strippers are always junkies with 12 babydaddies or escorts are just whores paying a pimp or drug habit.


LOL well we're all gonna be generalized. Escorts are no better than pornstars and pornstars are no better than escorts. To the outside world (those who are not involved in the industry) we're all whores anyway. I was not dissing what you did for a living. Stating why I'm not a pornstar is not dissing porn and none of my comments except for one was directed towards you. Sure anyone can say what they want about escorts, I have a lot of RL friends on sw they'll tell you I'm the most level headed/sober/independent person they know.

DevonSantos
08-15-2010, 12:12 AM
Ummm, fuck the bullshit but I also think about the kids! I think about how someones ''past'' life can affect their child's ''entire'' once revealed. I know I webcam but its just me masturbating and I already have my shit together which is the fact that ''mommy made those vids for Daddy and they got stolen''! Haha! But banging different dudes in a porno scene is some other shit!

Katrina312
08-15-2010, 11:27 AM
Here's my take on things. Both porn and escorting have there pros and cons. Ex) Escorting is illegal Ex) Porn is distributed all over. I have never done either. However, at points in my life I've considered both. I went a lot further with the porn. I got signed with an agency was even on there website. Got booked for my first scene went to AIM to get tested and backed out. My friend that's a porn star had her roomate print out pics of her. And, her roomate plastered them all over her little bro's school. Then, I have friends that are high end escorts in Vegas. That got set up by the hotel security for not tipping enough. It just depends which avenue works out well for you. Being a newbie for the porn I was offered $1000 for my first scene. And, it was b/g. I think it was a. vivid movie, that featured first timers making porn debuts. Pay would have been $1500 for anal.I actually wanted to only do g/g. So I opted out, and with escorting. I didn't know exactly how to get started so I backed out of that too. My escort friends told me not to work with an agency.

malayataylor
08-15-2010, 11:36 AM
Then, I have friends that are high end escorts in Vegas. That got set up by the hotel security for not tipping enough. It just depends which avenue works out well for you. Being a newbie for the porn I was offered $1000 for my first scene. And, it was b/g. I think it was a. vivid movie, that featured first timers making porn debuts. Pay would have been $1500 for anal.I actually wanted to only do g/g. So I opted out, and with escorting. I didn't know exactly how to get started so I backed out of that too. My escort friends told me not to work with an agency.


WOW.

How did hotel security know they were escorts? I have never even ran into hotel security.. ever! I never worry when I do incalls at hotels because it's a lot safer. The only thing I'm worried about is stealing towels from the maids when I do incalls. That's the most bizzare thing i've heard. This was a 5 star hotel? When I do incalls I dress like a soccer mom.. I don't wear provacative clothing at all. I'm rocking jeans, tshirt and a baseball cap ..ha! Just because you're an escort dosen't mean you have to look like a hooker.

This is one of the reasons why I 1.) Don't use priceline to book my hotels (because they keep an eye on those rooms 2.) Don't stay in one room too long.. like one room for more than 4 days because I'm hella paranoid. A bit of paranoia has taken me FAR in this business. Yes do not go with an agency. I used to work with a VIP agency and though I got VIP clientele .. some of the clients weren't always... ummm.. sober.. which I did NOT Like. I have made it clear that being intoxicated would result into the date being teminated. Another thing about working with an agency is if it's a REAL VIP agency they take a big chunk so the best thing is to go indy and charge whatever you want.

Escorting is not illegal.. prostitution is .. but EVERYONE knows that loophole and some (like myself) use that fact to their advantage big time and avoid getting busted.. *knocks on wood* Screening will pretty much save your ass 97% of the time. (if you choose to go the mid-range/high end route) Low end route you're on your own buddy.. c'mon if you're charging 100-200 an hour.. do you know what type of clients you'd get...?yuck!

I know lots of pornstarts that make a KILLING escorting.. I mean mad bank and I'm like damn maybe I should go into porn just for the credits then the whole too much exposure thing makes me go nahhhh ...
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. ........ I'm still stuck on hotel security knowing they were escorts being that prostitution is not legal in vegas at all. Why anyone would make that known is just like wow!

P.S I was thinking about touring vegas now you've totally changed my mind. LOL

Katrina312
08-15-2010, 11:45 AM
I'm not quite clear on the exact details. But, in Vegas the cops are extremely corrupt. I've been in Vegas, dressed in a tank and jeans and security will ask for my information. My understanding, is that they were blackmailed so they began tipping the hotel security. Not, to bust them. And, the amounts got ridiculous. When they declined, they called Metro. And ended up at CCDC.

malayataylor
08-15-2010, 11:50 AM
I'm not quite clear on the exact details. But, in Vegas the cops are extremely corrupt. I've been in Vegas, dressed in a tank and jeans and security will ask for my information. My understanding, is that they were blackmailed so they began tipping the hotel security. Not, to bust them. And, the amounts got ridiculous. When they declined, they called Metro. And ended up at CCDC.


Very interesting my dear.
Very very interesting. That is just horrid!
Yeah sounds like there are some missing details for sure. You should find out I'd like to know more if they're willing to tell you what really happened. I've heard about girls get busted for pretty much answering questions about sex and how much they'll accept for certain acts (usually clueless newbies) for but not this.

DevonSantos
08-15-2010, 01:09 PM
I've only danced in Vegas and I must admit that that place made me uncomfortable when going about around town site seeing. Any of the nice hotels and casinos treat every attractive woman as an escort. The guards and security practically stalk you from the moment you walk into the place. I know that prostitution is legal there but I don't like the way they treat ''every'' woman as a working girl. Vegas is rude in my opinion and dangerous grounds for independent escorts that are not agency represented. Vegas is very territorial!

malayataylor
08-15-2010, 01:14 PM
I've only danced in Vegas and I must admit that that place made me uncomfortable when going about around town site seeing. Any of the nice hotels and casinos treat every attractive woman as an escort. The guards and security practically stalk you from the moment you walk into the place. I know that prostitution is legal there but I don't like the way they treat ''every'' woman as a working girl. Vegas is rude in my opinion and dangerous grounds for independent escorts that are not agency represented. Vegas is very territorial!


Thanks for this Devon. Now I REALLY won't be going to vegas. This makes my stomach turn. Prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas.. it is Legal in Carson City (This is where the bunny ranch is located) which is 8 hours from Vegas and even in Carson city there have strict restrictions and it is illegal to work outside of a brothel. I see how Vegas can be profitable but fuck all that shit. Who wants to get harassed just for being pretty. I guess my baseball hat and t shirt won't work. That really fucking sucks!