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bem401
07-06-2010, 06:19 AM
I'm fairly certain you will only find one poster that I suggested that to though I'm certain it was on more than one occasion. That particular fellow insists on trying to carry on a personal back and forth with me on a public forum because I banned him from my email box several years ago.
Here you go again, trying to draw me in, accusing me of the exact thing you do, and are doing right here. If I ever had or have any sincere interest in a personal back and forth with you, it wouldn't be via email, nor would it be by referencing you in a thread you were not involved in, something you've done more than once. This supposed years-old "banning" is something I learned about a only couple of months ago here as you tried to divert attention from the inconsistencies and contradictions in your posts. Suffice it to say, I found interacting with you as pointless as you claim to have found interacting with me. If a "personal back and forth" with you had the least bit of interest to me, I could have PM'ed you here or used a different addy via email ( if blocked), not to mention confronting you in the club. Both you and I know, none of these things ever happened. Hopefully, you'll just move on and leave me out of a thread about "Custy Mythology", a state of mind I have long since abandoned.
yoda57us
07-06-2010, 06:34 AM
I was at my local club the other night and my ATF charged me extra for Stiletto-Licking and Ankle Biting (couldn't get away with the ass-kissing), I never new I could get it here for free ;D
You can't get it for free....but you don't have to pay extra!;)
yoda57us
07-06-2010, 06:37 AM
Here you go again, trying to draw me in, accusing me of the exact thing you do, and are doing right here.
There you go again thinking that everything is about you....
yoda57us
07-06-2010, 06:44 AM
*continues to munch on popcorn and watch Yoda and Rick*
Lol, see what I mean? That's entertainment!
JoeUnCool
07-06-2010, 06:59 AM
I've seen f***ups before, and they look like just like what this thread has devolved into.
yoda57us
07-06-2010, 07:46 AM
I've seen f***ups before, and they look like just like what this thread has devolved into.
LOL, honestly, I have no clue as to why folks would expect anything less than the occasional train wreck on any internet chat site. This sort of argumentative chest pounding goes on all over the world wide web. It certainly isn't restricted to adult oriented sites. The sheer anonymity of it all has a lot to do with it. Folks can choose to read or not read as they see fit. A thread on an web site is not life and death...it's just words on a screen.
This stuff is mild. Take a look at the comments under a lot of you tube videos some time!
JoeUnCool
07-06-2010, 08:02 AM
LOL, honestly, I have no clue as to why folks would expect anything less than the occasional train wreck on any internet chat site. This sort of argumentative chest pounding goes on all over the world wide web. It certainly isn't restricted to adult oriented sites. The sheer anonymity of it all has a lot to do with it. Folks can choose to read or not read as they see fit. A thread on an web site is not life and death...it's just words on a screen.
This stuff is mild. Take a look at the comments under a lot of you tube videos some time!
A train wreck is all that SCJ is. Most discussion forums are that way. It can be web based, email, nntp, whatever, they just about all become train wrecks. You get some douche that always has to show how they are right and everyone else is wrong.
yoda57us
07-06-2010, 08:49 AM
A train wreck is all that SCJ is. Most discussion forums are that way. It can be web based, email, nntp, whatever, they just about all become train wrecks. You get some douche that always has to show how they are right and everyone else is wrong.
Interesting summary. I really don't see that happening all that often here though it certainly does on occasion. Some threads die a quick death, some get sidetracked, a few get closed and many of them get resurrected and updated with new input. For me, the least productive endeavor is complaining about the process...
It is what it is, and it's free!
JoeUnCool
07-06-2010, 10:14 AM
http://www.justwhitenoise.com/?p=1059
I thought this was somewhat interesting given the interesting discussions in this thread.
KS_Stevia
07-06-2010, 01:06 PM
The fantasy is the suspension of disbelief that money is being exchanged for me to adopt a personality that is not naturally mine, but one that is hyper sexual, and catering to a feminine ideal that is just not real (for most women). Plus, the easy willingness to part with clothing and grind on private parts.
I'd also agree that there is no fantasy involved, except that about 95% of the the guys I've ever danced for have asked me out during, or in the end. And maybe only 30% of those guys were asking about a paid OTC, the rest wanted dates. Somehow, for a moment, they believed they had a chance to have sex with me, or take me to the movies, or whatever it is they wanted.
Its not so different than the suspension of disbelief found in watching movies or reading fiction. You KNOW its all faux, but you're going to have a lot more fun if you buy into it while it happens.
And believe me Rick, for every man like you with a hot wife and the social skills to pull women gratis, there is always that mega awkward 45 year old computer programmer who has never been on a real date, and this, plus hookers, is the best he's gonna get.
ilbbaicnl
07-13-2010, 10:28 PM
I was at my local club the other night and my ATF charged me extra for Stiletto-Licking and Ankle Biting (couldn't get away with the ass-kissing), I never new I could get it here for free ;D
When a dancer sticks her butt in my face, I've always assumed that was an invitation for a complimentary (dry) butt kiss, at a respectful distance from the g-string. The downside is that you can lose up to a minute of your song to ROTFL. Nobody's gotten mad so far, have I just been lucky?
I've always assumed that when a dancer presses herself against my face, a dry, tounge-free, suction-free kiss is not going to be annoying. Am I wrong about that?
ilbbaicnl
07-13-2010, 10:34 PM
A train wreck is all that SCJ is. Most discussion forums are that way. It can be web based, email, nntp, whatever, they just about all become train wrecks. You get some douche that always has to show how they are right and everyone else is wrong.
That's forum software that allows you to ignore a list of users of your chosing is a wonderful thing. The sad part is, you end up having to ignore some people who aren't jerks put can't resist the urge to respond to them.
ilbbaicnl
07-13-2010, 11:20 PM
LOL, I don't really see the need. People who think I'm a suck-up or any other sort of threat to humanity have never been shy about posting it here...
Besides, it's not like I know what any of you guys look like...or where you club....;)
There are a fair number of people who treat dancers as badly as racist white people treated black people back 60 years ago. That racism is still not completely gone, it's just no longer considered acceptable to be overt with it. Unfortunately, people can still get away with being overtly nasty to dancers in many cases.
Around black people who don't know me at all, I tend to "suck up" because they are naturally suspicious of white people, and any untactfulness could seem to them more threatening than it was intended to be. I suck up in the same way around dancers.
Sucking up to somebody is only a big problem if you're afraid of seeming weak. Seeming weak is only a problem if you're in a win-lose situation with somebody. Win-lose situations should almost always be avoided if possible, and are never any fun for emotionally healthy people. Since dancing is about fun, it should always be a win-win situation, or walk away from it.
None of this is meant to be criticism of you Yoda, just my general $0.02 on the topic.
lopaw
07-14-2010, 08:33 PM
When a dancer sticks her butt in my face, I've always assumed that was an invitation for a complimentary (dry) butt kiss, at a respectful distance from the g-string. The downside is that you can lose up to a minute of your song to ROTFL. Nobody's gotten mad so far, have I just been lucky?
I've always assumed that when a dancer presses herself against my face, a dry, tounge-free, suction-free kiss is not going to be annoying. Am I wrong about that?
I recently had some dances with a beautiful young dancer with great B cups. During our third (topless) dance, she pressed her nipples onto my lips. I politely gave them a dry peck with my closed lips. This girl just struck me as the type of dancer that didn't go in for nipple suckage. At the beginning of our fourth dance, she did it again. Another peck from me. She abruptly stopped the dance and said " Do I have to pry your damn lips open myself?"
LMFAO! Here I was thinking I was being the consummate gentlewoman, and all along all she wanted were her nipples sucked. }:D
hockeybobby
07-14-2010, 08:46 PM
^^^So Lopaw...did you immediately take the tittiesuck?
:)
lopaw
07-14-2010, 08:55 PM
^^^So Lopaw...did you immediately take the tittiesuck?
:)
Once I regained my normally oh-so-cool composure (yeah right!), I latched onto those beauties with a vengeance!
It would have been rude not to, right? ;D
hockeybobby
07-14-2010, 09:04 PM
Indeed.
And, thanks for taking one for the team! You're a good sport. Hehe
KS_Stevia
07-15-2010, 07:45 PM
Lopaw makes me miss being the naughty stripper that I once was. ;)
lopaw
07-15-2010, 09:25 PM
Lopaw makes me miss being the naughty stripper that I once was. ;)
You sure you won't consider coming back for one last wild romp? }:D
ilbbaicnl
07-16-2010, 05:58 AM
Once I regained my normally oh-so-cool composure (yeah right!), I latched onto those beauties with a vengeance!
It would have been rude not to, right? ;D
A long time ago a girl told me to remember those things were meant to be sucked by a little baby not a full grown man, so keep the PSI of suction on the low side. Great advice, I think it helps to get re-offered the nipple. There are some women who want it harder but they are usually not shy about saying so. What gets me off is to tongue the nipple like a clit. But it's hard to know when a dancer would be down with tonguing. I generally wait till they toungue me before I try to tongue them.
rickdugan
07-16-2010, 06:20 AM
A long time ago a girl told me to remember those things were meant to be sucked by a little baby not a full grown man, so keep the PSI of suction on the low side. Great advice, I think it helps to get re-offered the nipple. There are some women who want it harder but they are usually not shy about saying so. What gets me off is to tongue the nipple like a clit. But it's hard to know when a dancer would be down with tonguing. I generally wait till they toungue me before I try to tongue them.
Lopaw, I hope you are taking notes. Now I might have been a bit hesitant to give a woman advice on how to treat another woman's nipples, but this and other posts tell me that is a man who is obviously operating from a place of advanced wisdom and deep insights relating to strippers and SC etiquette. ;D
JoeUnCool
07-16-2010, 07:38 AM
A long time ago a girl told me to remember those things were meant to be sucked by a little baby not a full grown man, so keep the PSI of suction on the low side. Great advice, I think it helps to get re-offered the nipple. There are some women who want it harder but they are usually not shy about saying so. What gets me off is to tongue the nipple like a clit. But it's hard to know when a dancer would be down with tonguing. I generally wait till they toungue me before I try to tongue them.
Interesting. I don't doubt that light attention is the way to go. I've always tried to be very light and gentle in that area.
<shocked>I always find it shocking when I meet a girl that wants me to be rough with them. I've always assumed that the girl that wanted me to draw blood in that area was the exception, not the rule.</shocked>
With me, a dancer that doesn't allow me to lick/suck her nipples is a dancer that won't be making any more money.
Smokeless
07-16-2010, 04:15 PM
With me, a dancer that doesn't allow me to lick/suck her nipples is a dancer that won't be making any more money.
Amen, brother! Unfortunately, one can't get that satisfaction in Colorado all that often. Depends on how paranoid the dancer/management is of state liquor law and sex law enforcement. So, I take what I can get, and seek what I like best. When possible, I head east to Salina, KS, for more satisfaction, but I can only get there once a year, if then.
However, there was one gal who was quite odd. First thing she did was to jam her tit into my mouth. When I responded by getting a bit more intimate in ways legal in Colorado and Boulder, she got angry, saying that "such behavior" wasn't allowed, but suggesting an OTC instead. Red flags waving, I walked out.
yoda57us
07-16-2010, 04:22 PM
Lopaw makes me miss being the naughty stripper that I once was. ;)
You sure you won't consider coming back for one last wild romp? }:D
Lopaw, if you can talk her into it the dances are on me...as long as I get to watch!}:D
lopaw
07-16-2010, 07:14 PM
Lopaw, I hope you are taking notes. Now I might have been a bit hesitant to give a woman advice on how to treat another woman's nipples, but this and other posts tell me that is a man who is obviously operating from a place of advanced wisdom and deep insights relating to strippers and SC etiquette. ;D
lol!
I did get a bit of a chuckle when I read it. I will give the poster the benefit of the doubt and assume that he didn't see that my profile indicates female. Being the cynical character that I am, I always assume that most people either assume posters in blue are guys, or they do not realize that we all have gender indicators connected to our profile. Either way...no harm, no foul.
And while it is very true that women can indeed learn much from men (and vice-versa), when it comes to pleasuring other women I think I'll pass on that advice and just keep on doing what I do so well!
Lopaw, if you can talk her into it the dances are on me...as long as I get to watch!}:D
LOL I think lopaw should give us a teaser pic with appropriate blurring. I for one am very curious }:D
FBR
lopaw
07-17-2010, 08:25 PM
Lopaw, if you can talk her into it the dances are on me...as long as I get to watch!}:D
I can just imagine the havok the three of us could wreak on some poor, unsuspecting SC!
LOL I think lopaw should give us a teaser pic with appropriate blurring. I for one am very curious }:D
FBR
Heh heh heh.....perhaps someday ;)
girlundressed
07-17-2010, 09:53 PM
I second the request for a teaser pic.
yoda57us
07-18-2010, 05:04 PM
I can just imagine the havok the three of us could wreak on some poor, unsuspecting SC!
Alas...a guy can dream! }:D
KS_Stevia
08-04-2010, 01:00 AM
A long time ago a girl told me to remember those things were meant to be sucked by a little baby not a full grown man, so keep the PSI of suction on the low side. Great advice, I think it helps to get re-offered the nipple. There are some women who want it harder but they are usually not shy about saying so. What gets me off is to tongue the nipple like a clit. But it's hard to know when a dancer would be down with tonguing. I generally wait till they toungue me before I try to tongue them.
If a guy did that to me, I'd be hard pressed not to burst out laughing, whoever he was; custy, lover, etc.
KS_Stevia
08-04-2010, 01:03 AM
With me, a dancer that doesn't allow me to lick/suck her nipples is a dancer that won't be making any more money.
But they get sore man!! After the 17th guy has sucked and licked them, sometimes you, as #18, will be the cause of skin breakage and possible infections!
Really, in a club where nip sucking is the norm, you might be saving yourself from an oral staff infection in getting the girl who says no. Make sense?
You really expect nip sucking on the first dance?
Casual Observer
08-08-2010, 05:52 AM
^ Good points, all.
<S> KS
startngate
08-10-2010, 11:43 AM
What I'm saying is that most dancers already know how to make money ... I would have to argue that point with you. In my experience over the last couple of years I would say that the vast majority of dancers have no clue how to make money ... especially those under 25. I've thought many a time of offering to teach a sales class to the dancers I know after listening to too many 'tales of woe' about how they aren't making any money now that 'wanna dance' doesn't work as well. Wasn't always the case, but as of late there are far fewer dancers who have learned their craft well.
And for the record I agree with the OP, other than not falling into #6 myself. Don't get me wrong, I'll certainly play if it happens, but it's not my primary focus in going to the club. The rest are all true for me.
yoda57us
08-10-2010, 08:06 PM
I would have to argue that point with you. In my experience over the last couple of years I would say that the vast majority of dancers have no clue how to make money ... especially those under 25.
Well, since I haven't bought a dance or spent any serious time in a club with a dancer under 30 in years I can't really debate this point. Your experiences are what they are...
startngate
08-10-2010, 08:58 PM
Actually, my point was really that five years ago I would probably have agreed with you about 'most' dancers knowing how to make money. Even the younger dancers knew how to make money fairly soon after getting started.
I could be wrong, but I think that was due in large part to there being more 'professional' dancers around to help them learn.
I don't normally go for the under 25's either, but it also seems the percentage of younger dancers is going up too. The last club I went to I don't think I saw an 'over 30' dancer in the joint all night.
CCRiderM
08-12-2010, 07:32 PM
*continues to munch on popcorn and watch Yoda and Rick*
*much more enjoyable to watch girlundressed than Yoda and Rick*
8)
CCRiderM
08-12-2010, 07:36 PM
And believe me Rick, for every man like you with a hot wife and the social skills to pull women gratis, there is always that mega awkward 45 year old computer programmer who has never been on a real date, and this, plus hookers, is the best he's gonna get.
hey...Hey...HEY! Don't pick on us programmers. We need love too ya know. }:D
Elvia
08-12-2010, 07:37 PM
Yea - That whole "we are selling a fantasy" thing is LOL hilarious. I don't know where that BS ever started.
Guys are there to look at and get dances from semi-nude or nude women. No fantasy about it.
The fantasy is that we like you/find your jokes funny/are enjoying the dance/think you are good looking, etc. I doubt many guys would buy dances from a girl who made it clear that she found them uninteresting and unattractive.
JoeUnCool
08-12-2010, 07:55 PM
But they get sore man!! After the 17th guy has sucked and licked them, sometimes you, as #18, will be the cause of skin breakage and possible infections!
Really, in a club where nip sucking is the norm, you might be saving yourself from an oral staff infection in getting the girl who says no. Make sense?
You really expect nip sucking on the first dance?
Ugh, another extremist............No, I do not rub them raw. No, I'm not doing this out in the open. I'm not grabbing your nipples and squeezing them or twisting them. I'm not trying to suck them dry. I'm not trying to inflict pain. I'm gentle on this (seriously). I realize that there are complete jerks in clubs, however, do not assume that I am one of them.
No, I don't expect nipple sucking on the first dance, however, when I drop a ton of cash on an hour in the vip, yes, I do expect it. :-*
JoeUnCool
08-12-2010, 07:56 PM
The fantasy is that we like you/find your jokes funny/are enjoying the dance/think you are good looking, etc. I doubt many guys would buy dances from a girl who made it clear that she found them uninteresting and unattractive.
I don't know. There could be a market segment for this.
Athenathefabulous
08-12-2010, 08:01 PM
But they get sore man!! After the 17th guy has sucked and licked them, sometimes you, as #18, will be the cause of skin breakage and possible infections!
Really, in a club where nip sucking is the norm, you might be saving yourself from an oral staff infection in getting the girl who says no. Make sense?
You really expect nip sucking on the first dance?
yes. i dont know why the hell customers assume that we dont have pain receptors in our breasts. seriously.
i dont even mind two way contact (not pussy obviously) if its light. it doesnt bother me. but it seems some reasons of the country (cough texas cough) think the proper way to touch a breast is to take all of it in your hand and squeeze the hell out of it. wtf???!???
and as to sucking on nipples-- i imagine this would be the same. i have nipple rings dear god, and just working at two way contact club and not having them sucked on ends up bothering them. why? because customers insist on treating my boobs like cave men.
ugh. one of these days, some idiot is gonna squeeze my boob to hard and im gonna turn right back around, grab his saggy man boob, and squeeze the fuck out of it till he cries.
/rant
JoeUnCool
08-12-2010, 08:03 PM
Actually, my point was really that five years ago I would probably have agreed with you about 'most' dancers knowing how to make money. Even the younger dancers knew how to make money fairly soon after getting started.
I could be wrong, but I think that was due in large part to there being more 'professional' dancers around to help them learn.
I don't normally go for the under 25's either, but it also seems the percentage of younger dancers is going up too. The last club I went to I don't think I saw an 'over 30' dancer in the joint all night.
As someone that has seen the various facets of a SC (dancers (as friends), management(as friends), customer) for 24 years now, I can pretty much guarantee that very few girls have understood how to market themselves. Most (75%) are just trying to make rent/car payment/insurance before the end of the month. They just don't get how to make money. There are a few, but they are definitely in the minority.