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cortana
06-29-2010, 06:00 PM
Ummm.....

This thread is win. :D

And yeah, I've known one of those "I don't wear deodorant because I don't smell" chicks, and she definitely smelled...like onions. ewwwwwwwwww.....

Otoki
06-29-2010, 11:39 PM
Oh, and don't fucking worry about bruises, especially if you work somewhere with a pole. I covered up my really really bad ones (foster puppy=tripping and falling into corners of furniture to avoid stepping on him) but again, people usually don't care.

cyberstripper
07-03-2010, 04:21 AM
Believe it or not, NOT USING SOAP is better for your skin! Most impurities on the skin should rinse off with warm water. You should only use soap to remove things such as lotion that contains silicones that are not water soluble. Lotions, conditioners and hair gels all contain silicones. They cannot be removed with water alone.

I was a disbeliever in this too, but I have been using a more natural hair/skin routine, using only homemade organic products and cleansing methods. I have never looked better in my entire life.

Seriously tired of seeing the beauty industry rip everyone off. Most products are not proven to work, some even contain poisions. I have moved on from products, even department store products. So much better for you and the environment to make your own organic products and water-wash.

My new motto, if you cant put it in your face, dont put it on your face. Would you eat your facial soap, moisturizer, astringent? NO! Would you eat organic oatmeal used to cleanse skin, lemon to fight aging, sugar to exfoliate? YES! Long before the beauty industry took over, people used items found in nature to care for themselves both inside and out.

I know it sounds insane medio, but you should try it. A quick yahoo search of homemade beauty products and recipies will help immensely. I have homemade products from teeth whitening to a hair inhibitor cream I can make from scratch!

There are a multitude of ways you can cleanse your skin without using soaps. Plenty of ways to moisturize without using lotions. Ways to fight wrinkles that will blow your mind and cost $1.00 and have better results then the $500 creme from saks 5th avenue.

Green beauty routine rant over! IF I absolutely MUST recommend any product to use, BURTS BEES all of the way!

SerenaSin
07-03-2010, 06:59 AM
I lucked out... my boyfriend's parents make and sell their own handmade, organic, (usually) vegan bar soap, and youre right it is often technically edible (though i dont think i would actually eat it lol). Oatmeal, flowers, spa clay, coffee grounds, herbs, avocado and olive oil are some of the ingredients... so they hooked us up w/ a huge box of bars! It's great stuff.



Believe it or not, NOT USING SOAP is better for your skin! Most impurities on the skin should rinse off with warm water. You should only use soap to remove things such as lotion that contains silicones that are not water soluble. Lotions, conditioners and hair gels all contain silicones. They cannot be removed with water alone.

I was a disbeliever in this too, but I have been using a more natural hair/skin routine, using only homemade organic products and cleansing methods. I have never looked better in my entire life.

Seriously tired of seeing the beauty industry rip everyone off. Most products are not proven to work, some even contain poisions. I have moved on from products, even department store products. So much better for you and the environment to make your own organic products and water-wash.

My new motto, if you cant put it in your face, dont put it on your face. Would you eat your facial soap, moisturizer, astringent? NO! Would you eat organic oatmeal used to cleanse skin, lemon to fight aging, sugar to exfoliate? YES! Long before the beauty industry took over, people used items found in nature to care for themselves both inside and out.

I know it sounds insane medio, but you should try it. A quick yahoo search of homemade beauty products and recipies will help immensely. I have homemade products from teeth whitening to a hair inhibitor cream I can make from scratch!

There are a multitude of ways you can cleanse your skin without using soaps. Plenty of ways to moisturize without using lotions. Ways to fight wrinkles that will blow your mind and cost $1.00 and have better results then the $500 creme from saks 5th avenue.

Green beauty routine rant over! IF I absolutely MUST recommend any product to use, BURTS BEES all of the way!

Jonni
07-03-2010, 01:27 PM
My boyfriend hasn't used soap since January. He teaches Capoeira (a Brazilian martial art) twice a week, and gets A LOT of exercise, and he always smells great. He still wears deodorant, but he just washes really thoroughly with hot water.

Soap is a detergent. Chemically, this means the molecules are roughly shaped like a barbell, with one end being hydrophilic, and the other end hydrophobic. When you lather, the hydrophobic end binds to the oil (on your skin, dishes or clothes) and the hydrophilic end binds to the water. The water then carries away the soap, taking the oil with it. Now, the oil your skin naturally produces isn't dirty, it's what your skin makes so that it doesn't dry out. All the other contaminants should wash away with hot water. Unless you're using anti-bacterial soap (which you shouldn't be), it won't kill germs, just wash them away, but so does water.

I use soap, but I don't think it's disgusting if someone doesn't, as long as they're clean. Soap and clean are not mutually exclusive.

newbieblue
07-03-2010, 01:37 PM
I don't get people freaking out over her not using soap. Apparently she showers and scrubs.
Scrubbing is the most important part of a shower because it's what removes nasty crap. The water rinses it down the drain. Yeah soap helps loosen some things but it's not always needed. Only antibacterial soap kills germs and I never hear it recommended because the germs that don't die are left over and make stronger more resistant germs. Most people don't even wash their hands long enough or good enough to remove most germs.

cyberstripper
07-03-2010, 01:52 PM
For the record, I still do use one product: Deodorant, however I feel using it often makes me sweatier then without. For some reason that natural toms stuff just doesnt work out very well for me.

I also no longer work in a stripclub. If I did I would definately exfoliate and wash before/after work, but not necessairily with soap. Don't knock it till ya try it girls.

Seriously, would you eat your bodywash? How about that bar of soap? Soap is absolutely unnecessary to cleanse the skin. Most bodywashes and soaps aren't even antibacterial.

What is really killing me is NO product will help increase your self esteem/body image, etc. It saddens me to see whom I believe are the most beautiful women both inside and out, freaking out at the slightest thought of working with a pimple, scab or chipped nail. I think JD is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen, to read about all of her plastic surgery wants in body business made me sad. I wish people could just accept who they really are. Hair on your legs is natural. A bump in your nose makes you unique. Frizzy out of control hair is not the end of the world. To try to work against what you naturally have is just plain stupidity. You are wasting hours of your time straightening your hair, doing your makeup, etc and tons of money trying to have your "dream bodies". Well guess what in the end we are all going to be old, grey and those breast implants wont be at all flattering. You should keep your routine simple and play up your natural beauty. I am not dissing anyone who has had surgeries or who spends 6 hours getting ready, but seriously? Go OP for having the nerve to go into work with nasty-ass scabs, no deodorant and hairy legs! I wish I had the nerve to go out into public with unshaven legs. It would be a dream come true for me if I could hahaha! Fuck wasting an hour of my precious time every day getting smooth

However If I did get into dancing again I may need to change up my routine and try to find an antibacterial home remedy for washing hands, etc. I would recommend kirks casteel soap for cleansing after dancing. This doesnt leave product on your skin and doesnt dry skin like soaps.

Here are some articles you may enjoy

http://www.theoilcleansingmethod.com/ as fucked up as this sounds, it truly does work!

pixierocksonthepole
07-03-2010, 02:52 PM
What do you girls expect to hear from us? Strip clubs are like many other places...dens for bad bacteria. so yes soap works for those of us that feel better using it. In fact it is common practice these days. We aren't living in the days of old here. This is the year 2010. We are better equipping ourselves to fight off those diseases they couldn't then and preventing them by properly maintaining ourselves. I won't say I'm sorry that I would rather clean my hands with rubbing alcohol than grab onto a pole that another girl has rubbed her ass on. Who knows if she washes like I do. So how did you expect us to react? We tend to be hygiene freaks in strip clubs. And for good reason. Would you be comfortable conversing with someone who was sick, and then just washing it off with hot water? I have some news for you. Hot water does not wash away all germs or bad bacteria. There is good bacteria and there is bad. There is a major difference in how you take care of them. The temperature needed in order to kill the horrible bacteria, germs and viruses is way too hot for the human body to handle. So there for we combat them with things like soap, rubbing alcohol, peroxide, anti-bacterial soaps, and even medicines and medicated soaps. Wake up. The world has changed in the last few hundred years. Things are not the same.

Don't talk up a girl and then talk her down because of her personal decisions. She is who she is and she accepts she wants change. There is nothing wrong with that. And also that had nothing to do with this particular thread. If you found it necessary to talk about her and her wants that she is okay with then you should keep it on that thread or PM her.

J.D.
07-03-2010, 03:04 PM
I think JD is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen, to read about all of her plastic surgery wants in body business made me sad. I wish people could just accept who they really are.



I think some strippers are the dirtiest women I have ever seen, to read that they don't use soap in the shower makes me sad. I wish people could just accept that water just doesn't cut it. By the way, I hope you realize how much harsh chemicals, way worse than soap even (chlorine!) are in your shower water. I shower with filtered water.

Also, what really cracks me up is how concerned some of these girls are about soap and chemicals, yet I'll bet money most of those same girls smoke cigarettes and drink every night. This whole "only water" concept is amusing. :D Water won't kill a staph infection, for the record.

mediocrity
07-03-2010, 03:08 PM
Either way this shit is gross. For real. It reminds me of when my first husband decided he wasn't going to wash his hair anymore. He didn't wash it for eight months, and claimed the hot water was enough to cut the grease.

His head stunk. The end.

Plus, bruises? Ok. Those are easy to conceal, especially in the dim light. Fucking SCABS??? Especially when the title of this is "nasty ass scabs"?? Really?! Cover that noise with bandaids and wear some stockings. Christ. This is some paleo hippie horse shit. Next thing you know girls will be saying not to use toothpaste.

Reminds me of this girl I work with now that I always say looks like a barnyard animal. Yes, I have told her that to her face.

cyberstripper
07-03-2010, 03:54 PM
You guys I am not trying to take sides here, really. I understand the importance of cleaning yourself thoroughly especially after spending the evening in sc. I am just saying you can accomplish thorough cleansing without using soap. You guys just pounded that girl for not using soap but if you just did a quick google search on this you would see. Yes we do live in the year 2010 but it doesnt necessairily mean all products made are "better" from those that come from Mother Earth, and that have been used for centuries before products became popular.

For example if you take a look at this, you will see antibacterial agents can be found in fruits and veggies as well. http://allnaturalbeauty.us/hbr_ingredients.htm

SOAP and INSTANT HAND SANITIZER arent the only ways to cleanse yourself thoroughly and disinfect. HAHAH for shits and giggles I looked up a natural remedy for staph infections. It definately requires much more then water washing, but you too can find a natural remedy for this!

If I was working in a SC all night I would not find water washing alone suitable, I should have said this earlier, but there are ways to cleanse without soap. AND as natural as I like to be with my beauty routine, I myself find my own bodyhair gross and shave, I also have a plastic surgery wishlist:D

I am not saying you should throw away all of your products and go into work one day without brushing your teeth, hairy, scabby, and smelly. I am not saying soap is wrong and my way is right. I am not saying you should rub your hands all over a pole and go eat a sandwich after. I am just trying to show you there are other ways to do things that you maybe didnt think about. I hopefully encouraged some of you to look into these other ways. I am not saying you should throw away all of your products and go into work one day without brushing your teeth, hairy, scabby, and smelly.

TY JD for not blowing what I said about your post in body business out of porportion. I apologise oh forum Goddess' that I may have responded in the wrong place!

P.S. I highly recommend using filtered water in the shower.

Medio there is a form of washing your hair referred to as going shampooless, but all have cleansing agents you can use instead of using shampoo, such as shampoo bars and baking soda, but you are supossed to use something to CLEANSE, it is just something other then shampoo. I think your ex bf was going about this the wrong way lol.

pixierocksonthepole
07-03-2010, 05:12 PM
There is a difference in natural products or home remedies and just plain not cleansing yourself at all and just assuming that hot water is going to solve all these issues. I don't have to google it to know about it. We talk about these things all the time on this forum, try searching for it. Also I studied these things just as many of the other girls have and what really is healthier. Just the way the OP presented it...it sounds horrible. If she wanted to share a natural way to cleanse herself then cool she would have gotten a more positive response. But as is she made it sound incredibly disgusting and like she was boasting about it. Of course the responses were going to be a majority negative.

Lola_sinn
07-03-2010, 05:13 PM
This is an interesting thread. I have to agree that the stripper pole is filthy.

One of the clubs I work at gets large crowds around the stage, it is not uncommon to make $200+ in stage tips as well as from walking around the floor hustling for tips. All of these singles get handed to you between your boobs. My first night ever dancing was at this club. I didn't know beforehand how filthy clubs can be. I found out the next morning when I woke up with a rash all over my chest from all the dollars that were shoved in it! You can bet I wash myself thoroughly before and after every shift now.

As a side note, I only shampoo/condition my hair once or twice a week and it is actually much healthier than it used to be when I washed it every other day. I rinse it thoroughly in the shower after I work out though, because I do hot yoga so I sweat A LOT. I scrub my scalp with my nails and brush it afterwards, it helps get grease out and distributes it through the length and ends which are fairly dry. It works pretty well for me because I have coarse hair and a dry scalp but I wouldnt recommend it for everyone. And I ALWAYS shampoo it after getting home from the club mentioned above because they allow smoking as well as having smelly smoke machines on stage.

cyberstripper
07-03-2010, 07:15 PM
Just the way the OP presented it...it sounds horrible. If she wanted to share a natural way to cleanse herself then cool she would have gotten a more positive response. But as is she made it sound incredibly disgusting and like she was boasting about it. Of course the responses were going to be a majority negative.

You are absolutely right! As far as the op goes, she did say she used a creme on her nasty-ass scabs at the very least lol.

Would I wander into a sc with scabby knees and hairy legs? HELLSSSS NO!

But I do think her point wasn't about the methods used to cleanse, it was just brought up in other posts, and I thought I would share some natural methods. Her point was that all of the insecurities we have about ourselves are hardly noticable by other people. So if you cant shave before work, don't freak out, no one will notice. If you have a pimple it is not the end of the world.

It is also near impossible to bring a refrigerator with fruits, vegetables, oatmeal and oil to make your own handwash at a SC. If you must wash your hands by all means, use the soap provided.

If it was a tactic used as a troll or someone recommending we go to the sc looking like barnyard animals lol, they did not succeed hahah.

Otoki
07-04-2010, 04:29 AM
But I do think her point wasn't about the methods used to cleanse, it was just brought up in other posts, and I thought I would share some natural methods. Her point was that all of the insecurities we have about ourselves are hardly noticable by other people. So if you cant shave before work, don't freak out, no one will notice. If you have a pimple it is not the end of the world.



This was my impression as well.

And as someone who washes with hot water and exfoliates most of her body, and uses soap on only certain areas, I have to giggle at all the hysterical reactions to that idea. It may not work for everyone, but it works for some, and my skin is always soft and breakout free.

The Oil Cleansing Method is definitely helpful for me for most of my face (but not my cheeks and chin, which unfortunately have acne that isn't positively effected by the treatment) compared to when I was using soaps and Cetaphyl.

I guess I'm just surprised at how everyone is freaking the fuck out about the idea of using alternatives to soap JUST BECAUSE they don't FEEL clean until they use it.

Jonni
07-05-2010, 05:05 AM
Yeah, I'm with Otoki on this one. I understand the importance of cleanliness, I just don't think you have to scrub your entire body down with anti-bacterial soap every day just to be clean.

Just a note on anti-bacterial stuff- it kills the good germs, too. When you use it, you're destroying your body's natural defenses against germs, so you're actually making it more likely that you'll get sick, and creating a dependency on anti-bac stuff.

Katrina312
07-05-2010, 08:54 AM
should've mentioned she was asian in the first post.

a fairly attractive asian chick could have a dried up miscarriage dangling out of her pussy and she'd still be able to make good money if asians were in short supply in her club (and they almost always are).

and besides, a lot of guys go for girls who don't seem as well-maintained as some others might, because they assume that those are the extras girls. asian or not.


I'm confused, because she's asian and she doesn't have to shave her legs, and she can have scabs on your legs? okay ?! :-X Why is this any more acceptable because of her ethnicity?! As, a dancer you're there to create a "fantasy" which includes basic grooming. Regardless, of ethnicity you should still want to present a better image of yourself.

charlie61
07-05-2010, 11:16 AM
^I believe her point was just that Asian dancers are so rare that guys don't care as much about the details when it comes to Asian strippers.

Dany
07-09-2010, 09:15 AM
So, someone mentioned that water doesn't kill staph...it won't but neither will most soaps. Ya know what will kill even MRSA? TEA TREE OIL! My oldest son picked up a skin infection from a playground (possibly MRSA, but they couldn't culture it because it burst before we got to the e.r.) when we went finally got to see the dr. he told me to wash the kids sheets every day for 3 weeks in HOT water, bleach wasn't needed, and to swab the kids noses and any abrasions with tea tree oil. It freaking worked! Actually, if you research the really bad bacteria, using the antibacterial (i.e. triclosan) soaps is only making them (bacteria) more resistant. Furthermore, triclosan is thought by some to be carcinogenic. I use mild baby wash on my children and once in a while a natural sugar scrub on myself (oil and sugar). Body odor is caused by the bacteria on your skin digesting. If you eat well and take care of yourself, it makes it more difficult (changes pH levels) for odor causing bacteria to live on your skin. Some foods (like curry) are also odor culprits. Really, ya just don't need soap *shrug*

That said I do alcohol the fuck out of the pole and either tea tree oil or alcohol each part that touches the pole alot before I leave work, lol.

pixierocksonthepole
07-09-2010, 10:27 AM
Yes but still, that HOT water is at a temp the human body cannot handle with out receiving major burns. Which most people (as I can recall) try to avoid. And I am sure that tea tree oil does work, since it seems to do like...a million things already.

Point blank - the OP made it sound like she was some Neanderthal in the club that was just so surprised how men still loved her for not being super clean. It's gross when you think about it. And yes men do care how women care for themselves. And I can give you a few that will tell you just that. It does count for a lot.


And as for needing soap...it is a personal thing but it is recommended for use by many dr's and dermatologists. ;)

Dany
07-10-2010, 07:22 PM
And as for needing soap...it is a personal thing but it is recommended for use by many dr's and dermatologists. ;)

Dermatologists are doctors.

Irena
07-11-2010, 04:05 AM
well what a load of nasty comments, if you ever venture out into the world, go to china you will find that even big supermarkets don't stock deodorant, i used to live in shanghai and you wil find in the summer there will be maybe one product ridiculously overpriced and thats it, this is because that asians produce different body oils and don't smell when they sweat atall, its true google it, and lillionaire didn't say she didn't wash, she said she didn't use soap! and yes alot of asians(oriental) don't have much body hair even the men so please people try thinking about other possibilities before making your judgements!

Irena
07-11-2010, 04:14 AM
oh and by the way, your skin will always have bacteria on it, its impossible to kill all the germs on it,one of the skins main purposes is an outer protective layer against infection to keep bacteria from entering the body. anti bacterial soap won't keep you sterilised all day long!

pixierocksonthepole
07-11-2010, 03:54 PM
Dermatologists are doctors.

Not all Dermatologists are doctors. Just like a Chiropractor...is not a doctor.

pixierocksonthepole
07-11-2010, 03:55 PM
well what a load of nasty comments, if you ever venture out into the world, go to china you will find that even big supermarkets don't stock deodorant, i used to live in shanghai and you wil find in the summer there will be maybe one product ridiculously overpriced and thats it, this is because that asians produce different body oils and don't smell when they sweat atall, its true google it, and lillionaire didn't say she didn't wash, she said she didn't use soap! and yes alot of asians(oriental) don't have much body hair even the men so please people try thinking about other possibilities before making your judgements!

Everyone is going to make their judgements when it sounds as nasty as she made it sound. Hence the name of the thread. Get over it.

Elvia
07-11-2010, 04:03 PM
A couple months ago I went to see an aesthetician because I have super sensitive skin. So many things give me a bad reaction and make my skin red and irritated. Well, i was surprised when the aesthetiician suggested I stop using soap except on "smelly parts" (armpits, crotch, butt) and just rinse myself down with warm water. I still use soap all over when I get home from work, or have been out at the beach or something. But otherwise, I often avoid using soap all over. It seems to work fine and my skin is a lot less irritated.

charlie61
07-11-2010, 04:17 PM
^ Haha, after reading this thread, I've started doing the same thing!

Otoki
07-12-2010, 02:34 PM
Not all Dermatologists are doctors. Just like a Chiropractor...is not a doctor.

I don't know about other countries, but in the US you need your MD and then you do a dermatology residency (three years I think? Maybe two?).

Zinaida
07-12-2010, 02:56 PM
I use as little soap as possible. I'm also searching for healthy soaps, in other words, an alternative to lathering up with chemicals. Also it's not sweat that stinks, it's bacteria. Some people have more(sometimes WAY) more than others. A good diet will fight bacteria and germs better than applying external chemicals I believe.









Do you really want to have car ingredients in your pores?

afterhoursmint
07-12-2010, 07:40 PM
OP--you're right, guys don't seem to be aware of little things like these. Or, from another perspective, maybe they like seeing flaws because it humanizes us.


I used to bank when I was sick and not trying to sell dances. Seriously the best night I ever had at my first club I had flu-like symptoms and my boss made me come in. I could barely stand, lol. I felt like I looked green and had every single guy in the club that night tip me or ask me for a dance (or four). Even after dancing for them where they could tell I was sick, they still bought more. WTF. If I had seen someone that sick walking down the sidewalk I would cross the street! Maybe it's the whole flaws thing.

charlie61
07-12-2010, 07:42 PM
I used to bank when I was sick and not trying to sell dances. Seriously the best night I ever had at my first club I had flu-like symptoms and my boss made me come in. I could barely stand, lol. I felt like I looked green and had every single guy in the club that night tip me or ask me for a dance (or four). Even after dancing for them where they could tell I was sick, they still bought more. WTF. If I had seen someone that sick walking down the sidewalk I would cross the street! Maybe it's the whole flaws thing.

Totally! Pre-spironolactone, sometimes I would go to the club feeling like a huge walking zit. And those nights I always made either more money or the same amount as when I went in feeling like hot shit.

pixierocksonthepole
07-12-2010, 08:22 PM
I don't know about other countries, but in the US you need your MD and then you do a dermatology residency (three years I think? Maybe two?).

well there are Skin Specialists...they aren't dr's but generally can give the same info and care as a dermatologist.

Otoki
07-13-2010, 07:59 AM
well there are Skin Specialists...they aren't dr's but generally can give the same info and care as a dermatologist.

Are you talking about aestheticians? Because skin specialist means dermatologist, if I recall correctly. It refers to doctors whose specialty is skin health.

pixierocksonthepole
07-13-2010, 10:55 AM
Are you talking about aestheticians? Because skin specialist means dermatologist, if I recall correctly. It refers to doctors whose specialty is skin health.

There are people that are Skin Specialists that are not doctors. And no I'm not talking about aestheticians. Not what I was referring to.

Also doesn't change that the person that originally replied to that was just saying it to be a smartass and lately I have been incredibly tense and the dumbest things have been setting me off. That being one of them.

Otoki
07-15-2010, 01:39 PM
There are people that are Skin Specialists that are not doctors. And no I'm not talking about aestheticians. Not what I was referring to.

Also doesn't change that the person that originally replied to that was just saying it to be a smartass and lately I have been incredibly tense and the dumbest things have been setting me off. That being one of them.
OK, I'm just confused about what you're referring to, because i looked up skin specialist and all I got as a result was dermatologist. I'm not asking to be a twat, I'm asking because I want to know.

pixierocksonthepole
07-16-2010, 08:55 AM
OK, I'm just confused about what you're referring to, because i looked up skin specialist and all I got as a result was dermatologist. I'm not asking to be a twat, I'm asking because I want to know.

They work in shops and I wish I remembered the name of the one here. It's supposed to be really good for your skin what they do I just have a horrible memory lol.

But I guess in general what I was trying to say about soap earlier is that it is recommended to USE soap but don't ABUSE it. ;D

femmefatale88
07-16-2010, 07:20 PM
uh ok

Lillionaire
07-17-2010, 11:54 PM
well i havent worked since that night but im glad y'all are still entertained!

and every time i DO use soap, i can hear the voices of Stripperweb saying, "lillionaire, i think you are completely disgusting...!"

pixierocksonthepole
07-18-2010, 03:24 PM
Like we said, it was the way it was presented that was disgusting. There is a fine line there.

Katrina312
07-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Like we said, it was the way it was presented that was disgusting. There is a fine line there.

Agreed, it's the way you presented it. Had you not been so descriptive and disgusting I don't think anyone would have responded and been so offended.