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Athenathefabulous
09-13-2010, 01:42 PM
Who do you hate more, customers or "fat" dancers?

i dont hate fat dancers, they arent really competition for me. unless they are also dirty dancers.

and i dont hate customers. unless they piss me off or hound me for extras. i have a very amicable relationship with customers who arent douchebags. they are my bread and butter and i am aware of this. but when they turn rude and try to push my buttons, well ill still make my bread and butter and them some, but i also turn the tables on them.

i would hate a lot of the blues on here as customers. and they would certainly hate me too as a dancer. although to the blue sides credit, the 3 blues who i have met in person were all respectful customers and easy to deal with.

FBR
09-13-2010, 06:34 PM
i would hate a lot of the blues on here as customers. and they would certainly hate me too as a dancer. although to the blue sides credit, the 3 blues who i have met in person were all respectful customers and easy to deal with. This is interesting Athena. I'm curious. Were the three you met at the club among those you would hate normally but turned out their Blue rhetoric didn't coincide with their club behavior or did you have them pegged from the git go as obedient customers when no longer anonymous? This is interesting to me because when I met a few SW ladies over the years I toned it down big time. I was such a gentleman I puked once I got home ;)

FBR

Athenathefabulous
09-13-2010, 06:56 PM
This is interesting Athena. I'm curious. Were the three you met at the club among those you would hate normally but turned out their Blue rhetoric didn't coincide with their club behavior or did you have them pegged from the git go as obedient customers when no longer anonymous? This is interesting to me because when I met a few SW ladies over the years I toned it down big time. I was such a gentleman I puked once I got home ;)

FBR

i think all 3 were good people, but probably in a different setting would get a different amount of mileage or different type of SC experience.

idk meeting customers off of blue is weird to begin with- they are in a grey area. a lot of personal stuff about me is already up here. so its not like meeting somebody 100% in the customer zone and i cant approach with my usual sales approach. and im sure from their perspective its also different-- maybe in an SC the type of girl they would typically buy from would be either a totally different type of fantasy. and i feel like the Blues on here in general have a much more concrete idea of what they are looking for in a sc (be it extras or a very specific type of girl) than the average customer But since they came in specifically to meet me they still were respectful customers and spent even if i am not selling what they would typcially be looking for.

the three experiences i have had with blues:

1. someone who used to post on here a lot, but then started posting under a different name. he contacted me under his new name and i had no idea it was the same as the other name on here, and if i did i would have gone back and read through his old posts and it would have been VERY obvious what type of fantasy he was into (slow, sensual GFE type stuff-- not my forte). So in a regular club setting if i didnt meet him off of SW, i doubt our interaction would have lasted beyond "mind if i join you?" "no, im good for now". But since he contacted me through SW he bought a few dances and tipped me for conversation.
2. Second one i met i actually contacted to ask questions about clubs in the area, and he suggested if i come through that we meet. He was also very respectful and was fun to talk to. based on his posts on here it was pretty much what i expected- his posts on here are always funny and he doesnt come across as an extras. so i think he is the type of customers dancers appreciate usually.
3. Third one i met is more of a lurker on here and contacted me. He told me that he would respect my boundaries because he was quite frankly scared of what i would do if he didnt (lol) and he stuck to his word. He bought quite a few dances and we had really good conversation. However, after our conversation and when i went back later and looked at his posts on TUSCL (he told me that he reviewed a lot of clubs in the area on there and was surprised that i recognize his reviews first) it became apparent that he was definitely accustomed to the high level of extras that the area is known for. But he does seem to like conversing with strippers too so i am guessing that he is respectful of dancers as in if a dancer does not offer extras he would not press it, but is often offered extras (as they are rampant in the area) and accepts them when offered. So yea, i am pretty sure that the amount he spent vs. the contact he received was much different than usual, but he was more there to meet me/ converse with me so it worked out pleasantly.

Im imagining that you would fall into this last category FBR. because i suspect that even though you obviously enjoy OTC extras, that you are not actually the pushy asshole that many customers are when it comes to dancers who are not going to service you. or maybe i am giving you too much credit? ;)

mortalman
09-13-2010, 09:05 PM
i think all 3 were good people, but probably in a different setting would get a different amount of mileage or different type of SC experience.

For me this was true


idk meeting customers off of blue is weird to begin with- they are in a grey area. a lot of personal stuff about me is already up here. so its not like meeting somebody 100% in the customer zone and i cant approach with my usual sales approach. and im sure from their perspective its also different-- maybe in an SC the type of girl they would typically buy from would be either a totally different type of fantasy. and i feel like the Blues on here in general have a much more concrete idea of what they are looking for in a sc (be it extras or a very specific type of girl) than the average customer But since they came in specifically to meet me they still were respectful customers and spent even if i am not selling what they would typcially be looking for.

It was kind of weird



2. Second one i met i actually contacted to ask questions about clubs in the area, and he suggested if i come through that we meet. He was also very respectful and was fun to talk to. based on his posts on here it was pretty much what i expected- his posts on here are always funny and he doesnt come across as an extras. so i think he is the type of customers dancers appreciate usually.

:blush:
In my defense, before our meeting, I self medicated with a huge dose of Lithium (that I picked up across the bridge in Juarez) washed down with half a bottle of tequila. This helped to control my psychotic violent behavior. Otherwise this would have been my usual nipple pinching, ass slapping, throat choking, and ass fingering (mine not hers) "dance" that I usually get for half price.

Hi Athena :wave:

Athenathefabulous
09-13-2010, 09:20 PM
:blush:
In my defense, before our meeting, I self medicated with a huge dose of Lithium (that I picked up across the bridge in Juarez) washed down with half a bottle of tequila. This helped to control my psychotic violent behavior. Otherwise this would have been my usual nipple pinching, ass slapping, throat choking, and ass fingering (mine not hers) "dance" that I usually get for half price.

Hi Athena :wave:

lol! well thank you for drugging yourself beforehand so i didnt have to stick my finger up your ass. Its the simple things in life that count :D.

money maker
09-13-2010, 09:24 PM
wow what could I say when I could upsell the dances and get more I did. Example if I worked in a club where you took your money up front for the dance I would sell a 2for1 dance for as much as $120 of course that was when times were good. Now I am at a place were the guys pay after they have the dance. Hard to upsell.Dancers are really on the short end of the stick when guys pay after getting the dance.No you cant upsell after the dance

Athenathefabulous
09-13-2010, 09:31 PM
wow what could I say when I could upsell the dances and get more I did. Example if I worked in a club where you took your money up front for the dance I would sell a 2for1 dance for as much as $120 of course that was when times were good. Now I am at a place were the guys pay after they have the dance. Hard to upsell.Dancers are really on the short end of the stick when guys pay after getting the dance.No you cant upsell after the dance

idk i dont think that when you collect the money affects the upselling. its more when you make the agreement. you can make the agreement before the dance then the customer can pay after. now making the upselling agreement after the dances is obviously not a good idea-- and in this case it would be the customer getting the short end of the stick since he was not informed that the dances cost more.

this is of course putting trust in the customer. i have actually rarely had any problems with customers paying up afterwards, so i tend to trust people to pay more than the average stripper. and the few times that customers have tried to stiff me, usually a sudden switch to my pissed off self changed their mind. i have only actually been stiffed 2x my whole time dancing.

ilbbaicnl
09-15-2010, 10:53 PM
^^^ There's a lot of things the clubs can pass off to new dancers without them thinking twice about, but there are a lot of us on here that aren't new... & even if we were the inflation issue exists for everyone.

It would be a serious pain if lap dances cost $33.27 per. Instead of charging by the not-all-the-same-length song, each dancer should decide how many seconds she'll give for $10, and the minimum multiple of 10 a customer has to spend.

On the other hand, non-standard pricing has a big drawback for the dancer in the age of the WWW. The customer will know both the least she has ever charged and the least someone CLAIMS she has ever charged.

Kylea2
09-15-2010, 11:54 PM
^^^ When I refer to dancers setting their own rates most of us know it's normally a per song rate that ends in either $x5 or $x0... not some odd number & chump change.

As for the blues... I've never had problems with them when meeting them in person. On the other hand I probably don't have my guards up as much with them because I feel I know most of them here better & IF they ever tried any bs with me they'd know I'd report it on here. No one wants to look like a fool in front of a mass of people or get chewed out by a swarm of angry pinkies.

Spidey
09-17-2010, 08:01 AM
i think all 3 were good people, but probably in a different setting would get a different amount of mileage or different type of SC experience.

Was your list compiled in chronological order or from best experience to worst?