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FBR
08-29-2010, 09:24 AM
There were a couple of mentions back a few years ago during the time the ladies were organizing get togethers. So far as I know, nothing came of it.

FBR

Redwolf
08-29-2010, 09:32 AM
Thanks are hard to come by. Your posts really have to be superior.

FBR

I am pretty liberal with giving thanks (is that wrong?). If I enjoy someone's post or something a person wrote really resonates with me, I give them a thanks.

rickdugan
08-29-2010, 09:48 AM
If I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'll definitely holla atcha!

A quick OT - I wonder if a "Blue Convention" has ever been tried before? I'm too lazy to actually do a search to see if it has been addressed before - I'm quite certain it probably has been. I suppose it would be difficult if not downright impossible due to our vast geography. We are all spread so apart across this great land of ours, not to mention our overseas blues. Oh well. :-\

But damn - it could be quite the festivity to be sure!

Hmmm...this type of soirée would obviously be held at a club, no? ;D I imagine that there would be one very happy club owner, and likely several happy dancers, if a crew from the blue side could be rounded up into one club.

Golden_Rule
08-29-2010, 03:36 PM
Trying to get into my head over a mouse click?

LOL, settle down GR, It's not all about you...


?????????????????????????? :O

{A little out of left field}

yoda57us
08-29-2010, 04:33 PM
?????????????????????????? :O

{A little out of left field}

No more than your original comment on my mouse click was GR...

Redwolf
08-29-2010, 05:51 PM
Hmmm...this type of soirée would obviously be held at a club, no? ;D I imagine that there would be one very happy club owner, and likely several happy dancers, if a crew from the blue side could be rounded up into one club.

I think that multiple clubs would be needed: a Tour de France, if you will.

Kylea2
08-29-2010, 07:15 PM
There were a couple of mentions back a few years ago during the time the ladies were organizing get togethers. So far as I know, nothing came of it.

FBR

I organized a SW get together in Denver a few years back & one guy from the blue side decided to come. He asked in advance if it were okay & I told him it wasn't a problem. It would have been fun to have more though!

yoda57us
08-29-2010, 07:34 PM
Speaking as a guy who has been in the same club, in fact, in the same dance area with other blues and never even nodded in their direction I would have to say that a blue side meeting of the minds holds absolutely no interest for me...

That being said, if lopaw is in so am I! Just don't be surprised if I ignore the rest of you...;)

Golden_Rule
08-30-2010, 07:41 PM
I have heard clients complain about both low end AND high end girls being too "business like". Honestly It really depends on the girl. The best providers are the best actresses..




What a woman charges for sex is based solely on what she feels she is worth, not on what she does for the money.


exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes. Exactly!

Which are both variations of precisely what I have been saying. Since its all about perception it changes with the individual. One person's meat is going to another's poison, ergo it doesn't matter what you pay or got paid - only that the individual believes they are worth it.

Q.E.D.

Golden_Rule
08-30-2010, 07:45 PM
If I'm ever in your neck of the woods, I'll definitely holla atcha!

Please do.


A quick OT - I wonder if a "Blue Convention" has ever been tried before? I'm too lazy to actually do a search to see if it has been addressed before - I'm quite certain it probably has been. I suppose it would be difficult if not downright impossible due to our vast geography. We are all spread so apart across this great land of ours, not to mention our overseas blues. Oh well. :-\

But damn - it could be quite the festivity to be sure!

I can honestly say I don't know, though it sounds like something that must have surely come up before.

I know, from the parties I've been associated with in NYC, I have met a few blues and pinks from SW. A few dancers have even worked at the parties.

yoda57us
08-31-2010, 05:02 AM
Yes. Exactly!
Which are both variations of precisely what I have been saying.

Why is it that our opinions must be a variation of your opinion? They are simply our opinions...

sadbuttrue
08-31-2010, 07:21 PM
There were a couple of mentions back a few years ago during the time the ladies were organizing get togethers. So far as I know, nothing came of it.

FBR

There was, if you can call it one. I cannot remember (it was back in 2004) if a lot of male members were supposed to go. It was in Myrtle Beach.

What ended up happening was that I ended up going down, Chuck149 was there, and Sandy was around in the area, but didn't show. Chuck was there at Masters with a bunch of buddies golfing. It was still a good time and Masters is a great club, but think about it. Three guys from Mass ended up in the area for this thing in South Carolina. :D

It turned out that, when the ladies were behind it, it worked, with Bridgette being the major force.

>>>Sad<<<

sadbuttrue
08-31-2010, 07:34 PM
Start Here:

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showpost.php?p=376923&postcount=808

FBR
08-31-2010, 07:59 PM
^ Sad, it seems the energy for the get togethers dissolved a long time ago. I recall you participated a couple of times. I bet those are good memories :)

FBR

sadbuttrue
08-31-2010, 08:32 PM
Well, I have fun anyways whether people show or not. But the ones in RI and Vegas with the girls were amazing. And my trip to Ontario was great, too. It got me to travel.

>>>Sad<<<

sadbuttrue
08-31-2010, 09:30 PM
You're right, FBR - none of the dancers were lesbian to the best of my knowledge. I assume that most dancers are bi - but whether any of these ladies were is unknown.

You gave me a great idea for a new topic. Thanx!

Sounds like my former ATF:

Could make a gay male straight and a straight girl lesbian. }:D

>>>Sad<<<

Golden_Rule
09-02-2010, 09:21 PM
Why is it that our opinions must be a variation of your opinion? They are simply our opinions...

Geeze, so touchy. People tend to think in terms of their thoughts, when explaining or comparing them to others, as their own first and identify them as same. It is a very natural thing to do. Its not a claim of ownership. They can be stated as variations of your opinions if you prefer.

KS_Stevia
09-03-2010, 04:21 PM
Speaking as a guy who has been in the same club, in fact, in the same dance area with other blues and never even nodded in their direction I would have to say that a blue side meeting of the minds holds absolutely no interest for me...

That being said, if lopaw is in so am I! Just don't be surprised if I ignore the rest of you...;)

:tube::drum::beer2::wave:

Yooohooo, over here, do I get an invite to the convention?

Chili Palmer
09-03-2010, 10:33 PM
Yooohooo, over here, do I get an invite to the convention?

I've got your invitation in my pocket. Just reach in and get it. Oops, sorry, the other pocket. :biggrin: :eyebrow: :pickle: :thumbsup: :yes:

CP

yoda57us
09-04-2010, 04:46 AM
Yooohooo, over here, do I get an invite to the convention?

KS, after all the years of cyber-lusting how could you possibly think otherwise!:flower: :hug::drunk::heartbeat

KS_Stevia
09-08-2010, 02:13 AM
KS, after all the years of cyber-lusting how could you possibly think otherwise!:flower: :hug::drunk::heartbeat

But, but, I taut I waaaas more than just cyber lust, I taut we was fwiends? :'(

yoda57us
09-08-2010, 12:43 PM
But, but, I taut I waaaas more than just cyber lust, I taut we was fwiends? :'(

Fear not KS, you are waaaaaaaaaaay more than tawdry cyber lust to me!
Our night drinking together on the patio and all of our many years of commiserating over how f'd up the rest of the world is mean more to me than you could imagine...and only my true friends know all of my various internet persona and the name on my birth certificate...:hug:

But can I still buy you a lap dance? You can even pick the girl!

Smokeless
09-08-2010, 02:27 PM
^^^^ Awwwww......! How cute!

yoda57us
09-08-2010, 03:13 PM
Geeze, so touchy. People tend to think in terms of their thoughts, when explaining or comparing them to others, as their own first and identify them as same. It is a very natural thing to do. Its not a claim of ownership. They can be stated as variations of your opinions if you prefer.

Actually I would have preferred if you didn't make the post in question at all. I don't really see how it was anything other than self-serving.

But maybe that's just me...

Golden_Rule
09-09-2010, 01:32 PM
But maybe that's just me...

It is...


;D

yoda57us
09-09-2010, 05:40 PM
It is...


;D

Obviously, it's not....

Golden_Rule
09-11-2010, 10:30 PM
Obviously, it's not....

I wasn't being serious. 8)

yoda57us
09-13-2010, 05:45 AM
I wasn't being serious. 8)

LOL, not to worry GR, I take very little of what I read here seriously...

Robertjordan
09-15-2010, 10:07 AM
Never paid for extras, never got any extras. Unless you count hands down your shorts or the dancer groping your parts. I've had a few just reach out and stroke it a little and one that cranked it for three straight songs. I'd say more often than not they at least give it some attention, even if minor in the nude clubs (especially towards the end of songs when they want you to buy another). Recently got a hard sell for $200 VIP with heavy hinting of extras. Since I don't go there I mostly ignored the hints but I'm pretty sure if I would have asked specifically it would have been a yes.

Golden_Rule
09-15-2010, 01:28 PM
Never paid for extras, never got any extras. Unless you count hands down your shorts or the dancer groping your parts. I've had a few just reach out and stroke it a little and one that cranked it for three straight songs.

I'd be willing to wager that the fact that anyone wouldn't necessarily qualify "hands down your shorts", "the groping of parts" and "cranking it for three straight songs", as extras is precisely what most of the dancers present here would use as an example for everything they see as what has gone wrong with the strip-club industry.

yoda57us
09-15-2010, 01:41 PM
Never paid for extras, never got any extras. Unless you count hands down your shorts or the dancer groping your parts. I've had a few just reach out and stroke it a little and one that cranked it for three straight songs.

LOL, whether you paid extra or not, those are extras dude...

Smokeless
09-15-2010, 08:59 PM
LOL, whether you paid extra or not, those are extras dude...

Indeed. Certainly in this prudish state.

Robertjordan
09-16-2010, 07:39 AM
I'd be willing to wager that the fact that anyone wouldn't necessarily qualify "hands down your shorts", "the groping of parts" and "cranking it for three straight songs", as extras is precisely what most of the dancers present here would use as an example for everything they see as what has gone wrong with the strip-club industry.
Like it or not, that's the state of full contact strip clubs in Florida, at least the ones I have visited most recently. You don't even have to ask for it, it just comes along with most private dance. I've always viewed "extras" as something you had to ask for specifically (and pay separately), hence the name extra. Maybe I'm wrong.

yoda57us
09-16-2010, 07:55 AM
I've always viewed "extras" as something you had to ask for specifically (and pay separately), hence the name extra. Maybe I'm wrong.

LOL, Trying to define "extras" on a strip club site is about as futile as trying to define "GFE" on the escorting boards. Sure, at one time, dancers actually quoted you a price for things like HJ, BJ or FS. Sometimes it still happens that way but not in my neck of the woods or in the Florida clubs I've been to (Tampa & Miami). Offers for such services are part of the sales pitch with many "dancers" and the price for same is whatever the price of a series of private dances or a VIP room costs.

There have been lots of threads about defining what extras are. For me at least, anytime her hand touches your penis that's an extra...

Golden_Rule
09-22-2010, 10:34 AM
Like it or not, that's the state of full contact strip clubs in Florida, at least the ones I have visited most recently. You don't even have to ask for it, it just comes along with most private dance. I've always viewed "extras" as something you had to ask for specifically (and pay separately), hence the name extra. Maybe I'm wrong.

Oh no, you are not wrong about the actuality of it. I am well acquainted with the clubs of Pompano, The Palms and Dade County. Especially in the former two the clubs are literally brothels with a strip-club veneer.

Athenathefabulous
09-22-2010, 12:22 PM
Never paid for extras, never got any extras. Unless you count hands down your shorts or the dancer groping your parts. I've had a few just reach out and stroke it a little and one that cranked it for three straight songs. I'd say more often than not they at least give it some attention, even if minor in the nude clubs (especially towards the end of songs when they want you to buy another). Recently got a hard sell for $200 VIP with heavy hinting of extras. Since I don't go there I mostly ignored the hints but I'm pretty sure if I would have asked specifically it would have been a yes.



i would say hands down the shorts is certainly extras.

"stickshifting" (is this the term for groping over the shorts?) seems to be a bit more debatable in terms of being an extra. i would consider that an extra but some might put it in the same category as grinding since there is no skin on skin contact.

although if you are in a high contact area i suppose hands down the shorts might be one of the 'cleaner' extras :-\.

fast tan77
09-23-2010, 12:42 PM
Never paid for extras, never got any extras. Unless you count hands down your shorts or the dancer groping your parts. I've had a few just reach out and stroke it a little and one that cranked it for three straight songs. I'd say more often than not they at least give it some attention, even if minor in the nude clubs (especially towards the end of songs when they want you to buy another). Recently got a hard sell for $200 VIP with heavy hinting of extras. Since I don't go there I mostly ignored the hints but I'm pretty sure if I would have asked specifically it would have been a yes.

Ooooohh, your a john. (quote from the "The Maid" episode of Seinfeld).

Cheo_D
09-26-2010, 05:39 PM
i would say hands down the shorts is certainly extras. I'd tend to agree, even if you don't actually pay for it, in the overwhelming majority of jurisdictions that is conduct above-and-beyond what's contemplated as what the law allows at these places of business.


"stickshifting" (is this the term for groping over the shorts?) seems to be a bit more debatable in terms of being an extra. i would consider that an extra but some might put it in the same category as grinding since there is no skin on skin contact. Well, yeah... it would be a form of "grinding". Hand grinding :D IME it does happen unsolicited and with no apparent expectation of additional monetary reward even at relatively clean/"classy" locations, but it is not a universal practice either (yet?). Often as someone mentioned earlier, the technique is brought to bear during the attempt at upsell.

Proofray
10-23-2011, 05:25 AM
CP gets his for a little lower than I usually see.

I know that this may be a further challenge to your sanity, but I believe that the tusclers are exaggerating much less than you (and other girls on here) think. The fact of the matter is that these activities have just become much more common in certain regions.

Also, with respect to "wooing" dancers, there are some regions that are still fairly clean and other cases where some clubs are a bit cleaner. If you are in a club/region where extras are not common, then more wooing generally occurs and the prices go up.

But now to the important stuff. This relates primarily to OTC as I don't mess around too much ITC in most areas. I always negotiate a full hour rate as I hate a hurry/hustle factor, so guys paying per pop may be able to get cheaper OTC rates.

NYC (Queens)
I leave out Manhattan simply because fun is brutally expensive and I won't do it as a matter of principle, particularly when there are plenty of hot Latinas in Queens. ITC in Queens is very expensive because of the house fees, 250 to 500, even before you pay the girl, who will generally want $150-300 for a BJ or FS. However, very few girls are selling these rooms because of the prices. Still much cheaper than Manhattan, but only by comparison. I have had several one hour OTC sessions for $300.

South Carolina
At a couple of clubs I frequent, ITC FS can be had for $150 to house (1/2 hour) plus a $100 tip to the girl, though the girl also gets a chunk of the house payment. OTC can be done for $200, but with the hottest girls at the nicest clubs it may take about $3-400 to get it done. I recently did a 2 girl OTC there for $500, but they were both young and stupid hot.

Texas (DFW)
I only do OTC in DFW. In Dallas $300 will get you the solid hour OTC with a hot woman fairly easily (and I suspect if I negotiated harder I could probably knock it down, but I would rather the girl be motivated than resentful). I have done it in Fort Worth for $250, though it was slightly harder to find.

Rhode Island
$300 will generally set you up ITC or OTC. Many of the girls actually prefer OTC as they keep more of the money. Now there are 3 clubs in Providence where this is generally doable, though they are generally more down-market.

Connecticut (Southern Rt 95)
In Stamford and Bridgeport you can get ITC FS for as low as $120-160 (all-in), though you have to sacrifice a lot of quality to do so. I have had a number of full service OTC encounters with attractive women for $250-300.

Western Florida
I have less experience here than these other regions, but had ITC BJ/FS for $150 (1/2 hour) plus $150 tip, and the girl seemed shocked by the size of the tip (but she was damned good and enthusiastic). Also had offers in the same ballpark at one other club, but I was not interested.

I work in Queens, where do they offer OTC and extras around there?

rickdugan
10-24-2011, 06:30 AM
I work in Queens, where do they offer OTC and extras around there?

I am stunned that this genius was banned. ::)

amytaylor
07-21-2012, 11:16 PM
Screw the shit outta me? Prostitution's illegal, so good luck with that.

Though you said you'd pay whatever you want...so I'll tell you what. I'll commit a crime for the bargain-basement rate of $100,000,000. That'll be worth the jail time and criminal record, after taxes and fees...and everyone I love would understand the trade-off.

But since we both know you weren't offering that, let's have a little class and not talk about "screwing the shit outta me" (sic). Cool? Even for that $100,000,000, you'd be doing nothing of the sort (ain't no money worth something that sounds like physical abuse, no thanks).

xoxo,

Amy Taylor

Chili Palmer
07-22-2012, 02:11 PM
Screw the shit outta me? Prostitution's illegal, so good luck with that.

Though you said you'd pay whatever you want...so I'll tell you what. I'll commit a crime for the bargain-basement rate of $100,000,000. That'll be worth the jail time and criminal record, after taxes and fees...and everyone I love would understand the trade-off.



This is what raises your hackles so much you revive a two year old necropost? Really? BTW, you've already established you'll do it for about 999,998,000 less than your above quote:





Edited by mod for violation of SW's policy against outing.

amytaylor
07-22-2012, 07:52 PM
Nope, there is no price for which I'll "screw the shit out of you" (as someone do eloquently stated). Prostitution's illegal and not available here.

Someone sent me the post that said that (hence a response from me many months later); I don't come here much (wonder why, what with you being so refined, heh heh...).

Someone needs to whip some manners into some of the folks on the Net, indeed. I'd do so, but once I dislike someone, I'm not available to whip them (or appear in person for any other reason) at any price. Not my style to waste time on those who are nasty (figuratively or literally).

That said, don't worry about any post upsetting me( I won't remember it or this site 15 minutes from now. :). Too busy to dwell on that which isn't useful.

To that end, move on and be well. Life's short eh? But be careful, your assumption/insinuation that all escorts are prostitutes simply is NOT true.

Xoxo

rickdugan
07-23-2012, 04:10 AM
That said, don't worry about any post upsetting me( I won't remember it or this site 15 minutes from now. :). Too busy to dwell on that which isn't useful.

To that end, move on and be well. Life's short eh? But be careful, your assumption/insinuation that all escorts are prostitutes simply is NOT true.

Xoxo

You certainly weren't too busy to come on here and revive a thread that was several months old just so that you could tell us what you would not do. ;)

You are posting on a site that serves as a support tool for a variety of adult entertainment providers, including escorts who provide sex for money and even some dancers who do the same as a sideline. You might want to give that some thought before you post disparaging comments about, or pass judgment on, what they do. Also, you are not paying their bills and, as far as I know, what they are doing involves two consenting adults. It is fine that you have your own personal standards, but your choice to limit your activities to social escorting and/or other non-sexual services does not provide you with any moral platform from which to judge the activities of others. I suspect that your dance card is not exactly full if sex is not on your menu of options, a situation which is just not tenable for many of the girls that DO provide that service.

By the way, since you don't post often on this site, I'll remind you that you are posting this in the Strip Club Junkie Forum, Down here in what we call the basement, we are not obligated to coddle you the way we would if you posted that silly nonsense up in the pink section. Just some food for thought.

Thanks for posting. :)

yoda57us
07-23-2012, 07:43 PM
Nope, there is no price for which I'll "screw the shit out of you" (as someone do eloquently stated). Prostitution's illegal and not available here.

Someone sent me the post that said that (hence a response from me many months later); I don't come here much (wonder why, what with you being so refined, heh heh...).

Someone needs to whip some manners into some of the folks on the Net, indeed. I'd do so, but once I dislike someone, I'm not available to whip them (or appear in person for any other reason) at any price. Not my style to waste time on those who are nasty (figuratively or literally).

That said, don't worry about any post upsetting me( I won't remember it or this site 15 minutes from now. :). Too busy to dwell on that which isn't useful.

To that end, move on and be well. Life's short eh? But be careful, your assumption/insinuation that all escorts are prostitutes simply is NOT true.

Xoxo

Please spare us. I can guarantee you that Chili, Rick and I were paying for sex long before you even knew that you could sell it. We aren't idiots so don't show up here thinking you can talk to us like we are. If you want to carry on an intelligent conversation down her in blue you are welcome to do so. If you came here to dredge-up two year old posts and act like a smart ass please take it back to other work or wherever else you've been hanging out.

K? Thanks...

Chili Palmer
07-23-2012, 10:17 PM
TER. TBD. Eccie. The Blue Pond. LA is Fun. So many other private boards I cannot begin to count (as I don't even have a fake PhD in my online persona). For someone who claims she does not fuck for a living, you certainly hang out (and often get banned) at so many places that ONLY discuss people who do, in fact, fuck for a living. Perhaps you meant to say that you don't fuck well for a living, as that seems to be the gist of many of your reviews, at least before you have them pulled.

The funny thing is, back when I was knee deep in the LA provider scene, we've been at meet & greets in the LA area together oh-so-many years ago. Sensual Ashley, Felicia Foxx and a dozen other providers. I've had first hand experience of what the aforementioned do for a living, and heard stories about you. You're waaaaaay out of my ballpark price-wise (good for you if you can get it), but the sheer chutzpah of posting on literally every single escort site in America at one time or another, and posing in very nice lingerie while doing so, to claim that your time is nothing as a provider more than another Seaside Summarize Proust contest is off-the-charts mind-boggling.

Finally, for someone who claims she doesn't have the time to waste on such mundane matters, you sure keep busy picking fights all over the internet. Methinks she doth protesteth too much.

CP

Kessler
07-25-2012, 04:09 AM
^That behavior is almost pathological. I won't lie, I'm a little freaked out now!

slcdon
07-25-2012, 06:41 PM
Methinks she doth protesteth too much.

Interesting human trait isn't it? Those who protest the loudest are usually guilty. }:D

slcdon

yoda57us
07-26-2012, 09:39 AM
^That behavior is almost pathological. I won't lie, I'm a little freaked out now!

Eh, CP did a very good job of pointing out a behavioral pattern that is fairly common among sex workers of a certain mindset all over the internet. While there is a very minute segment of the industry that revolves around very rich guys paying beautiful women to hang on their arm at parties or high profile functions this is rare and it's even rarer for an escort to make a decent living this way. At least 99.99 percent of escorts have to fuck for their money. The vast majority of them are fine with this. The ones who show up with the high and mighty attitude are doing the same things all of the other girls do, they just haven't figured out how to deal with it yet. It's really no different with strippers. My ATF works in a club where the biggest drama queen and self-proclaimed "clean" dancer gives $40 Bj's on a regular basis.


Interesting human trait isn't it? Those who protest the loudest are usually guilty. }:D

Yup, the smart girls do their thing, make their money and keep their mouths shut and keyboards silent.

Kessler
07-26-2012, 05:38 PM
^ Yeah, I see the arm candy pretty frequently. At parties, it's fun to play the game, "What's wrong with this picture?" When there's fame involved, the line blurs even more.

What disturbed me the most about that exchange was the 'holier than thou' act DESPITE having very public reviews, ads, posts, etc. She's everywhere and so are the first-hand accounts of what she does. And yet she not only refuses to acknowledge that very public and shared information, she rebels against it. Like a closeted homosexual beating up gays.

Denial is one thing - I see that all the time with dancers and customers. "Oh well, when I give extras, it's different," or "I'm only gonna do this for a little while." But her posts hint at a deeper delusion and compartmentalization that, if unchecked, is downright dangerous - and not just to herself. Let's put it this way, if she finally connects with what she's become disconnected to WHILE with a customer - holy shit, I would NOT want to be naked and alone with her when that happens!