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yoda57us
07-26-2012, 08:04 PM
^ Well, you never know...which is why I avoid high profile blabbermouth providers like the plague. Same goes for dancers. The ones I end up either dating or just having good old OTC P4P with are the ones who fly under the radar. The last dancer I'm going near is the one with the reputation for meeting guys at a hotel. By the same token, the escorts who spend half their day on TER or the other escort boards are of no interest to me. Even if they aren't psycho they are always way to wrapped up in reviews and worrying about what other people are saying about them. Girls who draw the least amount of attention are the ones I'm the most interested in...
Kessler
07-27-2012, 08:02 AM
Girls who draw the least amount of attention are the ones I'm the most interested in...
Amen to that. Good to hear and good advice. And maybe I'm mistaken, but in my limited experience, I've noticed that these types of girls tend to be the genuinely nicer folk, as well.
Omegaphallic
07-27-2012, 01:21 PM
i would say hands down the shorts is certainly extras."stickshifting" (is this the term for groping over the shorts?) seems to be a bit more debatable in terms of being an extra. i would consider that an extra but some might put it in the same category as grinding since there is no skin on skin contact. although if you are in a high contact area i suppose hands down the shorts might be one of the 'cleaner' extras :-\. When it comes to over the pants I don't concider a quick squeeze an extra, but I had a girl jerking me off, but with my shorts on and I'd concider it an extra, the only for sure extra I've ever gotten. The line I guess for over the pants is the difference between cupping/squeezing and stroking. I naturally prefer the latter, but the former is fun too :D. Of course if I include pants on stroking of penis by her hand, then I guess I have to include when a girl wraps her breasts around my shaft and starts moving them up and down. Prevously I called that tit grinding, because it seemed like grinding only with your boobs. Hell given all the guys who proudly admit to popping from a chick grinding maybe we should just stop kidding ourselfs and count grinding as an extra, I mean if it often ends in,a happy ending then its just a question of methods isn't it? Or maybe I'm wrong and thier is no such thing as extras because its so subjective, I mean there's no scientific defination of extras, its a cultural phenomeon that varies from club to club. I mean I remember one girl on this site that concidered talking dirty to be an extra, dispite the fact that its universally legal at all clubs and invovles no contact at all and can be done by air dancers. Very complex issue.
yoda57us
07-28-2012, 08:57 AM
Hell given all the guys who proudly admit to popping from a chick grinding maybe we should just stop kidding ourselfs and count grinding as an extra, I mean if it often ends in,a happy ending then its just a question of methods isn't it?
Actually there was a time when grinding WAS an extra. Any of us who go to clubs that allow contact may be a bit jaded at this point but it's important to remember that no local ordinances actually ALLOW contact in strip clubs, they merely condone it by choosing not to enforce local prostitution ordinances. The way many laws are written, grinding on a guy's penis, even when clothed, would be enough to get a dancer busted in a lot of places.
Vyanka
07-28-2012, 02:26 PM
Holy fkn shit. I am surprised that SO MANY different states girls offer cheap as dirt extras. What in the fuckkkkk...this is crazy. No wonder this business in the shitter.
lopaw
07-28-2012, 09:46 PM
Any day now I'm half expecting to be handed a menu offering different services & their prices, ala the Mustang Ranch.
It's just a matter of time.
yoda57us
07-28-2012, 10:59 PM
Holy fkn shit. I am surprised that SO MANY different states girls offer cheap as dirt extras. What in the fuckkkkk...this is crazy. No wonder this business in the shitter.
I probably shouldn't tell you what a dancer did to me tonight for the price of a $20 lap dance but I'll admit, even I was a little shocked!
yoda57us
07-28-2012, 10:59 PM
Holy fkn shit. I am surprised that SO MANY different states girls offer cheap as dirt extras. What in the fuckkkkk...this is crazy. No wonder this business in the shitter.
I probably shouldn't tell you what a dancer did to me tonight for the price of a $20 lap dance but I'll admit, even I was a little shocked!
Vyanka
07-28-2012, 11:06 PM
I probably shouldn't tell you what a dancer did to me tonight for the price of a $20 lap dance but I'll admit, even I was a little shocked!
LOL. Damn.
Omegaphallic
07-29-2012, 06:46 AM
Holy fkn shit. I am surprised that SO MANY different states girls offer cheap as dirt extras. What in the fuckkkkk...this is crazy. No wonder this business in the shitter. What do you mean in the shitter? If you mean many clubs are going out of business, then I disagree, in TO it tends to be cleaner clubs that go out if business. Years and years ago seeing naked girls was enough, it was novel and thier wasn't much in the way of porn (before my time). Now adays we've got the net dripping with an endless supply of titties, many live via camming which is just as good as an airdance, maybe better cause you can jerk off and some cam girls do toy shows i believe. That just one thing out of many adult entertainment choices via for the same pool of money. Example thier this chick that fancies herself a pickup guru and she has this special stripper boot camp where she teaches "how to get strippers" and she charges like 500 to a grand per student. This chick looks like she belongs on stage, busty beautiful and I'm betting she's a former dancer. Now she changes big bucks to,teach guys how to sleep with you for free, no,garuneetie of success of course and gets all your money. So naturally many dancers have to up the anti, some via game/hustle, but grinding and wacking guys off or other stuff is easier, and in my opinion more fun at least for me, because no contact bores me to tears. @Yoda now I'm dying to learn what you got for 20 bucks (hopefully not gonorea).
JoeUnCool
07-29-2012, 07:02 AM
^ Well, you never know...which is why I avoid high profile blabbermouth providers like the plague. Same goes for dancers. The ones I end up either dating or just having good old OTC P4P with are the ones who fly under the radar. The last dancer I'm going near is the one with the reputation for meeting guys at a hotel. By the same token, the escorts who spend half their day on TER or the other escort boards are of no interest to me. Even if they aren't psycho they are always way to wrapped up in reviews and worrying about what other people are saying about them. Girls who draw the least amount of attention are the ones I'm the most interested in...
+10000000000 and +1000000000 to your post about the girls that that are escorts but think they are too good to be an escort. If someone runs their mouth, denies who they are and what they are doing, they are dangerous. the best thing for anyone to do is to quit the association. It doesn't matter if they are personal friend, business associate, escort, or dancer.
yoda57us
07-29-2012, 06:26 PM
What do you mean in the shitter? If you mean many clubs are going out of business, then I disagree,
She's not talking about clubs going out of business, she's talking about customer expectations of extras driven by girls who are willing to do them for less and less every day.
This, along with a struggling economy, is very much responsible for a sharp decline in dancer earnings over the past several years.
Everything that gets posted in Blue is not about your good time.
Now I'm not going to be a hypocrite deny that I don' take what's offered but, over the years, what's offered has gotten crazier and the cost has gotten lower. In Providence the unwritten rule in the past was that if you were gonna give a guy a HJ, BJ or FS you made him pay for VIP. This kept everyone relatively happy since the clean girls could at least hustle $20 dances all night and do pretty well. Then, over time, the less attractive more desperate girls started sneaking extras in the regular PD area. Twenty bucks to the bouncer was all it took to buy some privacy and all of a sudden there were girls giving HJ's for the price of a $20 LD. It's sliding into the gutter rapidly...
@Yoda now I'm dying to learn what you got for 20 bucks (hopefully not gonorea).
A gentleman doesn't kiss and tell but as far as any sort of STD? Dude, I'm single date around and pay escorts and, occasionally, dancers for sex. I don't do any sex that isn't safe sex!
Omegaphallic
07-31-2012, 11:00 AM
That STD thing was just a joke :)
I get what your saying. Still no contact no extra stripclubs are destined to become a niche thing, the market for that is shrinking.
Brothel-Titty Bar hybrids are the future for most.
Cracking down won't help the clean dancers because guys will just stop coming if all they get is air dances, because free or payed porn is better then an air dances.
I understand her disappointment that its not like it used to be, but the truth is you can't force guys to want what you want them to want. Guys want extras, that's what the market demands.
Still I wish her luck in her endevours.
rickdugan
07-31-2012, 12:11 PM
I get what your saying. Still no contact no extra stripclubs are destined to become a niche thing, the market for that is shrinking.
Brothel-Titty Bar hybrids are the future for most.
Cracking down won't help the clean dancers because guys will just stop coming if all they get is air dances, because free or payed porn is better then an air dances.
I understand her disappointment that its not like it used to be, but the truth is you can't force guys to want what you want them to want. Guys want extras, that's what the market demands.
That is a little extreme. There are many tamer clubs all over the country that continue to do quite well. Guys visit clubs for a variety of reasons and far from every guy that walks into a SC does so expecting a HJ or more. Shit, I could point to a number of clubs in places like Boston, DC, Little Rock, Mobile, to name a few, with little to no contact that are routinely packed with customers.
Now I will agree that in some areas with high club to population ratios (for example, Providence, Miami, Detroit, Houston), a combination of heavy competition and bad economic conditions has contributed to the development of some so-called brothel-titty bars, but there are also plenty of areas with large numbers of clubs that have not become that bad. NYC (city and metro), Philadelphia, Dallas, Portland (OR) and several FL cities (excluding Miami), to name a few, have stayed relatively "clean" (I hate this word but I'll use it here) and I have trouble seeing many of those clubs reverting to outright brothels. Now I'm not saying that edgier things do not happen in some of these places as well, but it is not as common and, when it does happen, costs a hell of a lot more than the price of a few lapdances.
There are a number of factors that contribute to the conditions of a particular area's strip clubs. Saying that clubs will either become brothels or go out of business is both simplistic and certainly not consistent with what I am seeing in my travels.
Cheo_D
07-31-2012, 05:13 PM
^ @rickdugan: your post certainly coincides with my experiences in different locations. The market is not homogeneous across the range, in some markets esch mode of venue has s different set of relative strengths and weaknesses. And yes,in the ostensibly tight/clean towns the "above and beyond" performance when/if it happens still commands "above and beyond" price.
yoda57us's right in that one of the issues with a proliferation of cheap extras is that it contributes to a downward spiral that devalues profitablility in general for both dancers and owners, and eventually even takes a hit on the extras girls long-term, since if it becomes an expected standard to bundle a HJ with a $20 booth dance, why will the customer feel the need to tip much more generously for it?
yoda57us
07-31-2012, 06:49 PM
That STD thing was just a joke :)
I get what your saying. Still no contact no extra stripclubs are destined to become a niche thing, the market for that is shrinking.
Where do you club and have you done any extensive clubbing outside of that area? There are cities all over the country where contact is simply not allowed and doesn't happen.
_Avery_
07-31-2012, 06:53 PM
I am soo glad I live in good old rural Wisconsin. This shit just doesn't happen at my club and yet every weekend we are packed to the brim. We must be doing something right in these parts.
lol, isn't it crazy how things can change in 2 years?!! lol
rickdugan
07-31-2012, 07:16 PM
lol, isn't it crazy how things can change in 2 years?!! lol
Hey now, no fair on the insider baseball comments. They just leave us speculating as to what has changed in the woods of WI - lol. :P
occurious
07-31-2012, 08:46 PM
I honestly don't go to clubs all that often, it tends to come in waves I will go months without going then go multiple times in a few weeks. Anyway one of the interesting aspects of this is that I'm unknown to just about every dancer in any club I go to so what they allow and offer is kind of fascinating. In the past year in one club over the course of 3 visits I had the following happen all in the VIP.
A very hot dancer after about 3 very hots dances give me a HJ/BJ without me asking or in anyway hinting at it and without her asking for anything. I did tip her very nicely although I can't remember what it was.
A dancer who gave a couple of pretty good dances asked if I was a good tipper, I said I was and she proceeded to give me a HJ. I honestly had no idea what she thought a good tip was and frankly was a little embarrassed to ask her when I gave her $60 she asked for $20 more which I gave her.
Another dancer who didn't even bother with the first dance before asking me if I was a good tipper, I said yes and she quoted me $150 for a CBJ which I said no thank you to, her price quickly came down to $80 which I said yes to. Then while she was doing it she offered FS for $100 more. I did decline that. After we were done she asked if I wanted her card which was a totally new one on me.
I have to say that the first experience was by far the best because she didn't ask for money she just did it. #2 made me feel kind of empty. #3 was very hot she was great at what she did but it was totally business. #1 may have been totally business too but I didn't feel that way.
Chili Palmer
07-31-2012, 10:48 PM
Back to the OP:
A quick visit to the local club: After much mutual groping, fondling, licking, grinding and stroking from a smoking hot dancer who did unspeakable things to me and I her, this is the tip she gave me: "Next time wear looser shorts." As Toby Keith once sang, "I love this bar..."
CP
I never had a pay for extras. One time i got offered a bj if I got a dancer from her. I didn't really believe until this guy told me he got one from her. Another time I was allowed to suck or touch this chick's breast. No extras required.
lopaw
08-03-2012, 10:06 PM
I never had a pay for extras. One time i got offered a bj if I got a dancer from her. I didn't really believe until this guy told me he got one from her. Another time I was allowed to suck or touch this chick's breast. No extras required.
Huh?
:confused:
yoda57us
08-04-2012, 01:28 AM
I never had a pay for extras. One time i got offered a bj if I got a dancer from her.
If you paid for a dance you paid for the bj. It just happen to be included in the price of the dance
Another time I was allowed to suck or touch this chick's breast. No extras required.
So was this at the bar? In the men's room? Right in the middle of the club?
If you paid for a dance you paid for the bj. It just happen to be included in the price of the dance the price was $20 per song, same as the normal lap dance charge. So was this at the bar? In the men's room? Right in the middle of the club? It was in a strip bar. There's separate rooms ( there was beaded curtains )and people could look in so the stripper would continually look outside. The stripper bar is owned by the local bike gang, Hells Angel. I know after hours you pay around $800 per person to have sex with quite a few of the strippers, all nighter. The stripper bar owned a large home nearby where strippers can stay for free, so my guess is that the guys had sex there. The only reason I know is that two guys who paid for it told me. Personally I would never have sex with a stripper like that.
lopaw
08-04-2012, 09:13 PM
Maybe it's just what I'm used to or maybe I'm so jaded from the availabiltity of extras here in LA that to even refer to touching a dancer's boobies as an "extra" is downright Victorian.
yoda57us
08-04-2012, 11:42 PM
Maybe it's just what I'm used to or maybe I'm so jaded from the availabiltity of extras here in LA that to even refer to touching a dancer's boobies as an "extra" is downright Victorian.
Yeah, it's been a while since touching boobies was an "extra" in the clubs I go to as well. In fact, I really am starting to wonder if the term "extras" even has any relevance anymore in some cities. I honestly can't remember the last time I paid extra for an "extra"...
hotexoticdw
08-08-2012, 10:23 PM
Extras are definitely YMMV down here in Dallas. There are a few clubs that regularly end up with a customer scoring an extra without paying out the rear end for a CR.
Yeah, it's been a while since touching boobies was an "extra" in the clubs I go to as well. In fact, I really am starting to wonder if the term "extras" even has any relevance anymore in some cities. I honestly can't remember the last time I paid extra for an "extra"...
You can't even hug or shake her hands anymore in Toronto, Canada because the city has a no touching bylaw. While the shaking hands isn't illegal the enforcing officers has given a charge for hugging, shaking hands and more so I don't even know if "extras" is even provided anymore.
Quite an informative discussion.
I really don't think I'd bother to go to a no-touch place. Can't imagine it would be worth it.
I'm in suburban central NJ and my favorite local place is a small, low key place with a mix of women. You get boobie touch with your dollar tip at the bar, In the back, you pretty much get to see everything and touch most of it (and get touched) along with the contact lap dance if you tip.
I don't know how these high priced VIP rooms even survive. Really. For much less (about 120 with tip) there are lots of places nearby where you can get an hour's shower and massage from a naked masseuse. Not sleazy 'adult store' type locations either, luxurious discreet places located in professional or medical buildings.
Flickdreams
08-20-2012, 03:13 AM
I don't know how these high priced VIP rooms even survive. Really. For much less (about 120 with tip) there are lots of places nearby where you can get an hour's shower and massage from a naked masseuse. Not sleazy 'adult store' type locations either, luxurious discreet places located in professional or medical buildings.
If you have never paid for a luxury VIP with a quality dancer then i guess you will never know.
yoda57us
08-20-2012, 06:00 PM
I don't know how these high priced VIP rooms even survive. Really. For much less (about 120 with tip) there are lots of places nearby where you can get an hour's shower and massage from a naked masseuse. Not sleazy 'adult store' type locations either, luxurious discreet places located in professional or medical buildings.
An escort friend of mine down in Jersey worked in one of these "high-end" rub and tugs a few years ago. While they may not have "XXX" across the door or blacked-out windows don't kid yourself. It's still a whore house when the cops come through the front door with a warrant.
Honesty comparing a massage place to a VIP room in a strip club makes no more sense than comparing it to an hour with an escort or even picking up a street walker for that matter. Different venues, different expectations. If you want a shower and a hand job that's perfectly OK and it's great that you know where to go for that. Guys who buy VIP are looking for something a bit different just as are guys who see escorts for three or four times the price of that rub n' tug.
JoeUnCool
08-22-2012, 03:16 AM
Quite an informative discussion.
I really don't think I'd bother to go to a no-touch place. Can't imagine it would be worth it.
I'm in suburban central NJ and my favorite local place is a small, low key place with a mix of women. You get boobie touch with your dollar tip at the bar, In the back, you pretty much get to see everything and touch most of it (and get touched) along with the contact lap dance if you tip.
I don't know how these high priced VIP rooms even survive. Really. For much less (about 120 with tip) there are lots of places nearby where you can get an hour's shower and massage from a naked masseuse. Not sleazy 'adult store' type locations either, luxurious discreet places located in professional or medical buildings.
I once heard the line "hookers all do the same thing. Payem' a little, payem' a lot, you get the exact same service." This was in reference to some things in my industry, but the line can be used anywhere. My response was "You get a street walker for $50, I'll do my thing with a $500 escort, and lets compare notes tomorrow morning." I would gladly pay the high end VIP room prices for the girl at PP that I know, and realize I would not have sex with her before I even walked in. The experience is that good. Heck, she is that hot, and she knows that if I won't pay it, others will. I would do this with any of the girls that I know and have developed an "inclub" relationship with.
One part I do agree with you is about a boob touch, but I'm after more than just a quick feel. Every girl that I ever go to VIP knows that before we go in the rooms. I make it clear that I will gently play with their nipples as well as gently suck on them. I also will run my finger nails ever so lightly over their body. I even go so far as to state that "I will not stick my fingers, arm, or any of my body parts in them in any way. I am not going to try and fist you, so please don't get all tense when I run my fingers on your back, through your hair, or up and down your legs." That tends to take a little bit of the edge off and results in a better experience for all.
When looking at the entire package, it is worth it to enough of a market segment that these girls can give make a living and the club can make enough money. Now, clearly, the markplace in NJ may be completely different. I can only speak to what I see in Atlanta, Tampa, Miami, and Las Vegas. Not everyone can afford this type of experience, but it works for enough of them.
hotexoticdw
08-22-2012, 11:06 AM
An escort friend of mine down in Jersey worked in one of these "high-end" rub and tugs a few years ago. While they may not have "XXX" across the door or blacked-out windows don't kid yourself. It's still a whore house when the cops come through the front door with a warrant.
Honesty comparing a massage place to a VIP room in a strip club makes no more sense than comparing it to an hour with an escort or even picking up a street walker for that matter. Different venues, different expectations. If you want a shower and a hand job that's perfectly OK and it's great that you know where to go for that. Guys who buy VIP are looking for something a bit different just as are guys who see escorts for three or four times the price of that rub n' tug.
Actually during a raid you are probably better off with your pants down in the bathhouse. Typically these bathhouses/AMPs are expected to have nude and draped clientele. If your junk is out at the titty bar then chances are you will get slapped with indecent exposure. In the bathhouse they may try to get you with intent but chances are they don't have much of a leg to stand on as people do genuinely go into those places for a massage/table shower from time to time. In fact a friend of mine and I were thinking of visiting one with some water guns.
Truth is, strip clubs are a pretty shitty place to get the extras unless you work out a regular OTC arrangement with your strip club ATF. I have seen some expensive CR and believe you me, it is better to get a number and become a sugar daddy. You are just paying the house anyway, so why bother? :twocents:
yoda57us
08-22-2012, 12:02 PM
Let's be clear, there is no good place to get caught with your pants down. It doesn't matter what you are actually guilty of, it's all about perception. In the case of a massage parlor most of the time the cops just tell the guys to zip up and get out. In a strip club it may be a sting that just gets a dancer busted or it may be a raid with customers involved. In any of these scenarios there could be unwanted publicity that will cause problems for you regardless of whether you get busted or not.
I agree, a strip club is a lousy place for extras. OTC or escorts are a much wiser, and safer option.
Jay Greene
05-01-2013, 06:47 PM
I am in Houston, Texas and VIP at a couple of clubs here. My VIP is lifetime which means I get free entry to the club and VIP. At one extras club entry to VIP is $120 for non members. As far as what customers pay, I would suggest a site like the strip club reviews on eccie.net where all this is detailed. I see posts by girls on here selling VIP time (in other states I suppose, certainly not Houston) at prices that are double what I have had FS for in VIP at Houston clubs.
There are many providers in houston and a recent news report said there were 23,000 men registered with the sugar dating site Seeking Arrangement. It is common knowledge there are 10x as many women as men on this site and many strip clubbers like myself have experience with sugar dating which offers even less dollar outlay per session than something in VIP at a club which can be rushed, sub par, etc. If you take the above stats from SA that means there are 230,000 women in the Houston area seeking a man for a mutually beneficial arrangement. Such an arrangement will extensively cut down on a man's strip clubbing. A man meeting an SA woman (many who are inexperienced providers) and then getting a less than satisfactory session can simply walk away vs attempting this at a club considering management and security. SC vip areas can be subject the customer to a raid by LE, interruption from others, and certainly not as domfy or private as a bed at a motel.
Extras prices are highly negotiable especially around rent time. In one club where I am VIP I am offered FS constantly at prices mentioned ats in tuscl by various posters. As I sometimes are there just to get dances, when I mention "I am just here for a couple of dance" they will drop the FS offer to motivate me to take the deal. Then I have negotiated reduction of 33-50%. I find it is better to have an arrangement with one girl both itc and otc which can lead to further price reduction and reduced risk vs doing multiple girls who one barely knows.
FasaCorp
05-05-2013, 12:22 PM
I am in Houston, Texas and VIP at a couple of clubs here. My VIP is lifetime which means I get free entry to the club and VIP.
I club here in Central Texas and was wondering how in the world did you get lifetime VIP? I know this is a bit off-topic but now that you mention it...is it specific to your club? Is there a VIP card that you can get or order online that other clubs would support? Thanks.
bricoates
05-10-2013, 11:00 AM
What cities/areas are good for extras and or really high mileage contact? I am aware of New Orleans, Providence, Baltimore and Miami. Any other good suggestions. Thinking about a quick trip over 4th of July. Thanks.
Tsepmet1
05-10-2013, 01:08 PM
What cities/areas are good for extras and or really high mileage contact? I am aware of New Orleans, Providence, Baltimore and Miami. Any other good suggestions. Thinking about a quick trip over 4th of July. Thanks.
You do realize that you're on the same site, right? You're going to get the same answers no matter where you post.
Also, it seems that you are no longer posting for "a friend". :D
bricoates
05-10-2013, 01:30 PM
This is a different friend.
Tsepmet1
05-10-2013, 01:33 PM
This is a different friend.
You sir, are either a cop or immensely stupid.
bricoates
05-10-2013, 01:49 PM
I'll take option number 2!
FasaCorp
05-12-2013, 01:31 PM
Don't pay any attention to the haters, coat. I'm sure both you and your friend are both equally skilled at paying for extras, wherever you choose to go. I recommend staying clear of Texas, not much to see here.
JadeNicole
06-03-2013, 07:35 PM
It's one thing to do it in a club. Its another to go OTC. Its not worth getting busted b the club or law.
But it would for me have to be worth it financially to do it even OTC!
IsobelWren
06-03-2013, 08:03 PM
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IsobelWren
06-03-2013, 08:06 PM
You do realize that you're on the same site, right? You're going to get the same answers no matter where you post.
Also, it seems that you are no longer posting for "a friend". :D
This is a different friend.
You sir, are either a cop or immensely stupid.
I'll take option number 2!
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estafador
06-06-2013, 04:59 PM
Wait a minute....we pay for extras? I thought we had to get a girlfriend and date her for at LEAST a month before getting the goods......
Golden_Rule
08-12-2013, 03:04 PM
It's one thing to do it in a club. Its another to go OTC. Its not worth getting busted b the club or law.
But it would for me have to be worth it financially to do it even OTC!
The availability of ITC sex acts at ridiculous prices in the S-C's of the inland water way area of the 1A [Boynton to Pompano], make doing OTC a bit redundant, and thus unnecessary, on the part of the custies who visit them.
I mean why pay extra for sex outside the club, getting a room etc, when you can do just about anything in the LD room... you don't even have to spring for VIP.
The strip-clubs there are, and have been for some time, brothels with a strip-club veneer.
Sorry, just reporting what I know the way I know it. 8)
Golden_Rule
08-12-2013, 03:09 PM
Quite an informative discussion.
I really don't think I'd bother to go to a no-touch place. Can't imagine it would be worth it.
I'm in suburban central NJ and my favorite local place is a small, low key place with a mix of women. You get boobie touch with your dollar tip at the bar, In the back, you pretty much get to see everything and touch most of it (and get touched) along with the contact lap dance if you tip.
I don't know how these high priced VIP rooms even survive. Really. For much less (about 120 with tip) there are lots of places nearby where you can get an hour's shower and massage from a naked masseuse. Not sleazy 'adult store' type locations either, luxurious discreet places located in professional or medical buildings.
Mostly Russian/East European. The Asian places tend to be less luxury minded.
There are a lot of S-C in that area that are close to brothels as well. Not on a par with the FLA clubs I mentioned above, but pretty straight forward. Cheeks use to be one, by way of example, though its closed now. There are others in and about a 20 mile radius of Bridgewater, within which ring makes up the larger part of central NJ.
Golden_Rule
08-12-2013, 03:24 PM
Different venues, different expectations. If you want a shower and a hand job that's perfectly OK and it's great that you know where to go for that. Guys who buy VIP are looking for something a bit different just as are guys who see escorts for three or four times the price of that rub n' tug.
I do understand what you mean but wonder regarding its usefulness when talking about this stuff.
As I pointed out in this thread many pages and a couple of years back, it amounts to a matter of individual perception. So when explaining such things I tend to avoid using terms like 'looking for different things' because everyone is looking for the same thing: to be satisfied. It is simply a question of what that is.
It is overly simplified but generally accurate to note that one man's luxury may be another's idea of slumming it. All that matters when it comes down to it is that seller and purchaser are satisfied with that they got.
yoda57us
08-12-2013, 04:35 PM
I do understand what you mean but wonder regarding its usefulness when talking about this stuff.
Fortunately there is not a "usefulness" requirement for posting here. If there was I would be pretty busy deleting posts. The last time I checked, this was a chat board. We chat here.