View Full Version : How much a night makes it worth stripping to you?
xxxchili
09-22-2010, 10:51 PM
For me acceptable income for a day shift is $200-$300...for night shift I need to make at least $500. My Goal is always to make $1000 on a night shift. Research the clubs around your area and figure out where the money is. A lot of my friends circulate all over looking for the most money. I tried webcam before and I just couldn't make that much.
Dolly_Haze
09-24-2010, 03:01 PM
I'm fine with $200 a night. I come in late and I like to take my time while I'm there so a typical shift for me is no more than 4 hours out on the floor. If I were working 6-8 hours, I'd aim for $400. I work at a very slow dive, though. If I were at a mid-level club, I wouldn't be content with these numbers.
ladyteesexy145
09-25-2010, 03:31 PM
Camming and stripping go hand in hand, but the only difference is that there are no customers groping on you and asking for freebies. The earning potential is hand in hand, but I say go with whatever is better for you. I am a money hungry girl, so I do both!
safireX
09-25-2010, 04:23 PM
I'm trying to do both but how do you girls do it? I get soooo bored doing camming to the point I have less patience then at a club. I wish I did but I cant do a full 8 hours on cam cuz of boredom.
xxxchili
09-25-2010, 04:32 PM
Camming and stripping go hand in hand, but the only difference is that there are no customers groping on you and asking for freebies. The earning potential is hand in hand, but I say go with whatever is better for you. I am a money hungry girl, so I do both!
I didn't try camming very long...I have danced for 15 years so it has always came easy to me. I might have to come watch you and give it another try ;)
salemsexy
09-25-2010, 08:27 PM
You can make that camming, maybe better to stay home and cam..
No traffic , No gas, No drama..
salemsexy
09-25-2010, 08:29 PM
I'm trying to do both but how do you girls do it? I get soooo bored doing camming to the point I have less patience then at a club. I wish I did but I cant do a full 8 hours on cam cuz of boredom.
how many sites do you cam at , at one time? I get bored to but the more sites you work at , at one time keeps you a bit more busy.
working one site at a time will be kinda slow.
Get a magic cam software and start splitting your cam so you can work many sites.
rubyredlipsss
09-25-2010, 09:55 PM
working in la i have to have realistic expectations. at the same time, considering my living expenses and experience in other fields that could gross the same amount, i was happy with around an avg of 300. if i'm taking my clothes off and still hustling my ass off, i'd be damned if i avg'd less than 300, which is approx less than a cocktailer makes. either way i better be sure i make bank occassionally (and to me that's what makes it worth it-making 300 in less than an hour, because if i want to i can just leave...not like a reg job)
but were there times i made less than my average. yes. i've left with a dollar. i've never worked at a club that has made me owe money, nor would i ever, at least in la.
safireX
09-26-2010, 08:51 AM
how many sites do you cam at , at one time? I get bored to but the more sites you work at , at one time keeps you a bit more busy.
working one site at a time will be kinda slow.
Get a magic cam software and start splitting your cam so you can work many sites.
Right now I just started Ifriends and am on Niteflirt which NF has been very slow especially because I fell down on placement from not being on enough, what other sites do you suggest? I cant deal with sites that only pay me 35%, it's a bit ridiculous takes too long to make money on them in my opinion. I would be happy if I averaged $200 a day camming but I don't especially because I get bored and sign off ugghh.
I get pissy if I make less than $500 in a 6 hour shift.
SamanthaLasVegas
10-05-2010, 12:01 PM
Berri said it best. Even though it's not too good in "stripper land". It is for the real world. Since you've just started back maybe it will take a min for you to get your hustle back. Also I think camming is a great idea. If your feeling lazy at home (story of my life!) then maybe try camming with a friend. So maybe work at a club 3 nights and home 2. Im sure you have a friend that wants to make money also and friends are good motivaters!
shasta
10-05-2010, 12:25 PM
I think about this question often. I work only 4 hours per night, 4 nights and one day per week. Only once in a while I feel that I have a night that is worth it:-(
It is hard to make money here...................
lol1337a
10-05-2010, 12:35 PM
When my club was no contact/table dance only I was alright averaging 300 for 5 hours. Now that it has private rooms (still no contact) I'm not happy unless I make 500+! Funny how things can change overnight.
xGigi
10-06-2010, 05:25 AM
I compare my earnings with having a regular job. I used to work a crappy 8 dollar an hour job making 250 for 40 hrs a week so if I can leave with 250 in one night I'm walking on sunshine lol. honestly anything over 100 dollars to me is good money. I want a lot more obviously and I will hustle the heck out of every customer I see but I won't get mad leaving with 150 dollars after tipout.
Melonie
10-06-2010, 09:38 AM
I faced this question myself when I decided to retire from live dancing a couple of years ago. In essence, I drew the line at $2000 a week AFTER TAXES. Ten years ago this meant earning $2000 a week ... but two years ago this meant earning more like $3000 a week in order to have $2000 left over after taxes !
These days, all webcam earnings are subject to 1099 IRS reporting, as are a good portion of the earnings at clubs that accept customer credit cards. If your income has been reported to the IRS via the webcam host or club owner sending in a 1099 form, you have no choice but to pay a minimum of 15.3% Social Security tax ... plus probably another 15% in federal income tax ... plus probably another 5% in state income tax ... on your 'gross' earnings.
Additionally, these days unlike 10 years ago, if you attempt to purchase a house or a car, if you pay college tuition etc. the IRS is going to be automatically informed in regard to the amount of money you spent. 5 minutes later IRS computers are going to be checking past tax returns to see if your reported earnings are in line with being able to 'afford' these expenditures. Same goes for loan / lease applications these days ... from an official standpoint any income that hasn't been reported to the IRS simply 'does not exist'.
For better or worse, the ability to fly under the taxman's radar are now essentially over ! This is definitely something to keep in mind when attempting to compare fully taxed 'straight job' earnings against 'earn it now ... but pay out a whole bunch later' ... independent contractor earnings from dancing and/or webcam.
shasta
10-07-2010, 04:46 AM
I think about this question often. I work only 4 hours per night, 4 nights and one day per week. Only once in a while I feel that I have a night that is worth it:-(
It is hard to make money here...................
So, I got on the floor late tonight, about 10:30. I took home less than 200 and feel like a total loser. This happens often.....never happens when I travel for work tho.
I have 3 degrees and have had many other jobs. My problem is that I have been dancing for 6 years! When it isn't working anymore it is sooo hard to move on!
renaissancelove
10-08-2010, 08:19 PM
Anything over minimum wage is "worth it" to me, since I am still young and degree-less.
However
I'm not happy if I don't make 500+ on a night shit. I have this competitive edge to myself and I want to be as good as the top earners. In my mind, there's no way I can get to that level without earning a base amount like $500. Maybe that's just me.
charlie61
10-08-2010, 08:21 PM
I also really try to set my expectations depending on the night. I mean, if you hit one of those nights where there just aren't many customers, that kind of determines your earnings ceiling. So I adjust what I'm happy with.
Katrina312
10-10-2010, 02:26 PM
$200 for a weeknight. $500 for weekends.
Otoki
10-25-2010, 08:16 PM
I think about this question often. I work only 4 hours per night, 4 nights and one day per week. Only once in a while I feel that I have a night that is worth it:-(
It is hard to make money here...................
Wait, what time do you work? If you're working a swing shift rather than, say, 10-2, you're just working a crap shift.
Otoki
10-25-2010, 08:18 PM
I faced this question myself when I decided to retire from live dancing a couple of years ago. In essence, I drew the line at $2000 a week AFTER TAXES. Ten years ago this meant earning $2000 a week ... but two years ago this meant earning more like $3000 a week in order to have $2000 left over after taxes !
These days, all webcam earnings are subject to 1099 IRS reporting, as are a good portion of the earnings at clubs that accept customer credit cards. If your income has been reported to the IRS via the webcam host or club owner sending in a 1099 form, you have no choice but to pay a minimum of 15.3% Social Security tax ... plus probably another 15% in federal income tax ... plus probably another 5% in state income tax ... on your 'gross' earnings.
Additionally, these days unlike 10 years ago, if you attempt to purchase a house or a car, if you pay college tuition etc. the IRS is going to be automatically informed in regard to the amount of money you spent. 5 minutes later IRS computers are going to be checking past tax returns to see if your reported earnings are in line with being able to 'afford' these expenditures. Same goes for loan / lease applications these days ... from an official standpoint any income that hasn't been reported to the IRS simply 'does not exist'.
For better or worse, the ability to fly under the taxman's radar are now essentially over ! This is definitely something to keep in mind when attempting to compare fully taxed 'straight job' earnings against 'earn it now ... but pay out a whole bunch later' ... independent contractor earnings from dancing and/or webcam.
REALLY great advice. I assume that 25% of my money will go to taxes (it's usually far less since I don't work that much, but it's good to be safe) and that way I don't have to scramble at tax time.
Purrfect
10-25-2010, 08:38 PM
I'm always aiming for $500 on the weekdays and $1000 on the weekends. The club i currently work at is awesome, haven't left with less than $400 yet on any night yet (I work 5-6 nights a week). But I'm in New Zealand and NZD is pretty weak compared to AUD/USD. Still, it's great money! I'm happy.
crystalize
11-08-2010, 02:37 AM
Exactly!! It helps to humble ourselves. Where else can we make $500 cash per shift besides if we had PHDs? Anyways those take hard work and long hours studying complex material.
A good way to get out of stripper burnout is to get a "regular job". Maybe waitressing, as a barista, bartender, secretary, or whatever. You may just work one day because when you are just as tired after a day at your regular job as you are after a shift stripping, and make less than $100, you will be very happy to go back to the club and will BANK.
You're so right. I just took a regular job again after a long time of just dancing and realized how spoiled I am. Around $10ph and cleaning, getting yelled at by people... I prefer dancing. We tend to forget how little "work" it is (depending on how you see it of course) and how nice it is to be your own boss..
carmen_b
11-08-2010, 03:39 PM
I've started to realize too that I don't always have to "bank". I mean .... I drive far so generally once I'm there I really try hard , but occasionally , it's nice to sit back have drinks, wander on stage, do a few dances and leave with "only $xyz". Allowing myself to occasionally not push SO HARD works well for me too.
xGigi
11-10-2010, 12:16 PM
You're so right. I just took a regular job again after a long time of just dancing and realized how spoiled I am. Around $10ph and cleaning, getting yelled at by people... I prefer dancing. We tend to forget how little "work" it is (depending on how you see it of course) and how nice it is to be your own boss..
that's how I feel! when I have a "bad" night and I'm sitting in the dressing room thinking "UGHHH I ONLY MADE 100 DOLLARS" I step back and think "what did I have to do for this 100 dollars? dance? wow...ok nevermind then!"
yeah the job is emotionally draining but only slightly more so than having a "real" job.
I used to work at starbucks and I would go home crying my eyes out because the customers were so mean and I was working SO HARD for 8 dollars an hour. if I had a dollar for every time I heard "I SAID NO FOAM ON MY LATTE THIS HAS FOAM ON IT MAKE IT AGAIN" I would have enough money to retire at 20 years old! "SOY MILK I WANTED SOY MILK" even when I would take their order and write it on the cup and they NEVER SAID soy milk. the customers were always yelling at me, my boss was always yelling at me, my shift supervisors were always yelling at me, there was ALWAYS work to do from making drinks, cleaning up spills, running back and forth from the back room getting syrups, cups, dishes, coffee beans, etc, cleaning dirty toilets, cleaning espresso machines, cleaning EVERYTHING from floor to ceiling. you HAD to be nice to the customers. I had hot coffee THROWN at me from an uptight business woman on her cell phone. I've been called a stupid b*tch for 2% milk instead of nonfat. I got written up for the dumbest shit ever CONSTANTLY (wearing sneakers, punching in 3 minutes late, forgetting a regular's drink). I never got a raise in over a year of working there. I never made more than 30 dollars a week in tips. my boss would "forget" to let me take breaks and my shift supervisors would take hour long breaks whenever they felt like it. we had these stupid sales goals to meet and all of the baristas had to try and sell certain products and if we made our goals the manager got a bonus, not us, even though WE were doing all the work!
I busted my ASS and I was getting paid 8 bucks an hour.that's 250 a week. not even enough to live off. I could go on FOREVER about that job.
I get burnt out dancing but nowhere NEAR as burnt out as I was as a barista.
do I feel like I should be making more money to take my clothes off? hell yeah I do and I have my nights where I complain but really 100 bucks a night tax free is NOTHING to complain about.
Purrfect
11-10-2010, 08:28 PM
Yeah I used to be a barista as well and I hated it. It's such hard work for almost nothing! For some reason people think their cup of coffee is the most holy drink in the world and dare some coffee girl mess it up a little bit. The worst thing about it was that you HAD to deal with the bullshit, you can't just walk away. You have to smile and be nice regardless of what they say. It's weird that it's not considered degrading when you earn $8 an hour because it's a "real" job. In the SC I have the freedom to walk off and I love it.
miabella
11-10-2010, 08:32 PM
no, it's considered degrading to work for low wages even with your clothes on.
crystalize
11-14-2010, 04:28 PM
I honestly think those low wage jobs are so much more degrading. I'll trade getting yelled at and cleaning up puke for getting naked anytime.. Nothing beats being able to act however you want towards a customer.
shift_6x
11-14-2010, 05:37 PM
Some nites in Va u r lucky to make 100.
miabella
11-14-2010, 07:23 PM
I honestly think those low wage jobs are so much more degrading. I'll trade getting yelled at and cleaning up puke for getting naked anytime.. Nothing beats being able to act however you want towards a customer.
part of the hassle factor of stripping is that you can't act however you want towards a customer every time-- just like any other job. otherwise there wouldn't be so many posts about dancers putting up with this or that for the money. i don't know why anyone would strip for peanuts. the extra money vs. many other kinds of work is kind of the point. it really isn't a choice between 8$/hr cleaning up puke and 8$/hr naked unless you(generic you) want it to be. that false binary keeps a lot of strippers making peanuts and rationalising it as a-ok.
Kylea2
11-14-2010, 07:27 PM
^^^ I'm actually more with Crystalize on this. If I walked away from a rude customer at an hourly paying job, I'd probably be fired. If I encounter a rude customer at the club, I can walk away if I WANT to. As a matter of fact, I've told customers at clubs that they were rude straight to their face, walked off, & still kept my job.
Jamaica
11-15-2010, 03:56 AM
I need to average $500 atleast a night to be content. I expect $800+ on FRI/SAT to claim I had a "good night."
Laurisa
11-15-2010, 08:45 PM
I think you guys aren't really being honest with yourselves here. Sure, at McDonalds you make $7/hour... and get yelled at by your boss... but there are also major differences and pitfalls in our industry.
First off, at a SC you are topless or fully nude. Second of all you are oogled, talked down to by dancers, management, and customers... assaulted by customers (touching you without your permission or inappropriately is assaulting), made to dance for sometimes no stage tips, you have to wear next to nothing when it's freezing in the club, wear VERY uncomfortable shoes, experience the feeling of degradation when your lines are crossed, feel like your space is invaded, always have to act happy, be fined when you are late to work or from break, and worst of all YOU PAY to work there AND you have to follow many similar rules as employees while working AND you do not qualify for unemployment or disability, nor does the club give you or your children benefits. And guess what? I MUST work holidays--and if it's slow that sucks for me, NO BONUS OR OVERTIME!!!
SO, while I know there are perks such as being paid well, making your own schedule, and having flexibility--but for everything listed above I will say that in terms of 'effort' and what we 'put up with' there is a good reason I will be livid if I ever make less than $200 in a shift, and very irritated at less than $300. Working at A&W took 1/50th of what dancing does out of me--emotionally, physically, and psychologically.
-Laurisa
Satine86
11-16-2010, 12:28 AM
I believe that sounds pretty decent. It all depends on your expenses and how much your T.O. was. If you can average $200 to $300 a night, not including nights were the club is pretty busy and $500 or more seems like a piece of cake. I dont believe its a waste of time. Thats being realistic.
ManyRoses
12-03-2010, 06:38 PM
This depends on so much!! When I was working in the UK, at one of the top clubs five years ago, leaving with less than $500 would seriously piss me off, even on a weeknight! Now I'm working in a little club in Vancouver, and $500 is a decent target for a weekend, and I usually do $2-3 on a weeknight. I'm usually happy if I'm in the top three earners (and I usually am) so that says something about the available money! Lol
At the end of the day though, this job gives me flexibility, and I value that above huge sums of money. I can also make cash NOW and not in two weeks time, and that matters too...it all depends on your priorities, and why you do the job in the first place.
FiendishGyrator
12-15-2010, 03:33 AM
I tend to go to work late, so for me, I think in terms of hours. Tonight, I made around $50/hour over three and a half hours. Am I happy with that? No, not really-- but it wasn't a hard night, and I have a little bit of extra money.
Anything below $40/hour is when I get really cranky. My "average" in my head (though it's been slow lately in my area so it's not really this at the moment), is $100-- that's always my goal, and I'm really happy (happens occasionally) when I make $150-200/hr for time put in.
Because tonight-- I'm not happy with making $160+, but then I take into account that I really hit the floor just a shade before eleven and that I earned management goodwill for coming in because they were initially short girls, and for making a couple club-workers happy-- which means good karma from them during later shifts.
And, well-- it's $160. It's not a lot, but I've worked some shitty-ass shifts at some places I've checked out in the last six months where I made way less than that, so it helps keep it in perspective.
AriahsPariah
12-29-2010, 12:14 AM
An average of $700 a night makes stripping worth it to me.
crystalize
12-29-2010, 10:35 AM
I think you guys aren't really being honest with yourselves here. Sure, at McDonalds you make $7/hour... and get yelled at by your boss... but there are also major differences and pitfalls in our industry.
First off, at a SC you are topless or fully nude. Second of all you are oogled, talked down to by dancers, management, and customers... assaulted by customers (touching you without your permission or inappropriately is assaulting), made to dance for sometimes no stage tips, you have to wear next to nothing when it's freezing in the club, wear VERY uncomfortable shoes, experience the feeling of degradation when your lines are crossed, feel like your space is invaded, always have to act happy, be fined when you are late to work or from break, and worst of all YOU PAY to work there AND you have to follow many similar rules as employees while working AND you do not qualify for unemployment or disability, nor does the club give you or your children benefits. And guess what? I MUST work holidays--and if it's slow that sucks for me, NO BONUS OR OVERTIME!!!
SO, while I know there are perks such as being paid well, making your own schedule, and having flexibility--but for everything listed above I will say that in terms of 'effort' and what we 'put up with' there is a good reason I will be livid if I ever make less than $200 in a shift, and very irritated at less than $300. Working at A&W took 1/50th of what dancing does out of me--emotionally, physically, and psychologically.
-Laurisa
You definitely have some points, too. And I do agree that we should still be aiming for more than just 8$ ph, but I still find that I really enjoy stripping, which is why I find that the money comes "easier" than at a regular job. I think if I was regularly pulling comparable wages to a regular job, then that option (with benefits, etc.) is definitely better.
Roxychu
01-01-2011, 12:04 PM
I've only done two shifts (at dancing ever this is my first club) so I know this isn't going to be overly representative of my potential earning ability.
The first night I did 50+ girls were on (a local club has closed i suspect though that after a while the excess dancers will maybe move elsewhere if they make nothing) i didn't have to pay house fees that night and i made £42 after club commission i was there 9pm-2am although i was proud because a lot of dancers didn't make anything or didn't even go upstairs. So i made minumum wage that night but i was cheery about it cos i really really enjoyed working my shift. For some reason i find talking to people at work less tiring than doing it out of work (so far, although i'm hoping to keep up the positive attitude so far it's holding well). The next night i worked was sunday the club isn't ususally open sundays so there were worries no one would even come some guys did though and I made £100 after house fees and comission and i sold my first VIP yay! I was really proud of making a £100 but now i feel like it's not much of an achievement because you guys expect to make $300 a night! I'm 19, slim and pretty hot (hey self confidence) so no i'm worried that i should be making more. Or are the amounts made different in england? Obviously i don't know for sure but the other girls didn't seem to be making drastically more. Mind you maybe they had all their dances off the same customers so no one i can truyl gauge it.
I know i'll have a better idea once i've worked more shifts but i just wanted to hear you girls input after all you are the experts.
morganstars
01-01-2011, 12:17 PM
everyone is different, every club is different and every area is different. but reading everyone's different dollar amounts has been motivating for me. my average and goal is $300 during the week, $500 on weekends, but i've been telling myself over and over that i deserve more because of my experience (i suppose i would still be fairly new yet i know the game and am getting the hang of hustling) and how i look, perform, and my personality. since telling myself this, my nightly earnings have been increasing nearly every night!
ManyRoses
01-02-2011, 01:26 PM
I've only done two shifts (at dancing ever this is my first club) so I know this isn't going to be overly representative of my potential earning ability.
Or are the amounts made different in england? Obviously i don't know for sure but the other girls didn't seem to be making drastically more. Mind you maybe they had all their dances off the same customers so no one i can truyl gauge it.
I know i'll have a better idea once i've worked more shifts but i just wanted to hear you girls input after all you are the experts.
When I worked in the uk, I made far more than I make in Canada, but that was pre-recession and in London - where in England are you? 50+girls a night was pretty average too..
I wouldn't worry if you don't make our targets your first week!! $300-500 is a reasonable target, but I'd let the first month or so go, because you are figuring it all out. When I started, I averaged $150 a night the first week, and I was sothrilled by it! Strippers tend to have a very warped relationship with money, so think more about what makes it worth it to you, and what you need it for. Try to keep that positive attitude!
Jessie_tinydancer
01-03-2011, 01:28 AM
I usually set myself a weekly target so I don't ge too upset if I have 1 or 2 bad nights in a week. My expectations change depending on where I'm working but at the moment:
Mon-Wed: $250 MINIMUM $500 GOOD
Thu & Sun: $350 MINIMUM $800 GOOD
Fri-Sat: $800 MINIMUM $1400 GOOD
So yeah, anything less than the minimums there and I get a little cranky, especially as I do 8-12 hour shifts. I usually try to set my target at around $50/hr slow days and $100/hr good days but as long as I meet whatever weekly target I've set (depending on what shifts I'm doing) I'm happy.
Same...
My goal during the year is $1,600/week before tax for 2 shifts and during summer when Im not in uni is $3K/week for 5-6 shifts. I can usually make it but might have a shithouse shift ($150). As long as there is a $1K+ shift in the week then it usually averages out.
I do set my goal higher though because if I had stayed in my old career Id easily be making $120k by now. I would have been promoted to $100K if I had stayed a few more months and that was 3 years ago now. But if I didnt have a degree and little work experience my expectations would likely not be as high.
Roxychu
01-05-2011, 05:05 AM
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SupaByoch
01-05-2011, 02:16 PM
Depends on the hours worked, level of bullshit, etc, but I consider $200 the absolute minimum to make it worth going to any club, period. I expect to walk out with at least $50/hr profit per shift or I'm not a happy camper. If I can't pull that out of a club, that club isn't worth my time.
carmen_b
01-05-2011, 03:23 PM
^ I'm aiming for about a $50 per hour profit as a base in the next few weeks ( reflected from actual " in club " hours , not counting driving ) . I feel like this is a very doable goal amount. I was trying to get myself up in the " $500 a night " dancer category but at $400 for 8 hours ..... it's not bad. I'm trying to not feel dissapointed with dancing. I'm trying to do it more "gently" and lowering expectations after my little break is one way to ease back in. Or I guess that it's actually $450 a night I want to walk with .... $400 a night after gas and hotel money. I still think there is something special and shiny about a $500 nightly profit average though. It feels substantial. If I can walk with 1k after expenses for two days I'm pretty happy. If it takes me three days .... still happy but then I have to be out of town longer.
HEAD TURNER 2
01-06-2011, 12:42 AM
At least 800 and up or the club can kiss my ass on the way out.
XAnastasiaX
01-06-2011, 06:41 AM
It used to be 500 take home in 4-6 hours. Now with the way the economy is 300. I am currently at a small club in LV. Our dances are 30 and up so that is reasonable. Anything under 300 and I get upset and anything under 200 ( our house is 75) and I am very very upset. An average shift is 300-500 ( I work 9p-3a) a great shift is 600-1000 and a superior shift is 1200-3000 ( most I ever made thus far was 3,000 as I expect to break this some day ).
I also take into account how the particular club makes me feel. I recently worked at a club that while I sometimes made decent money ( usually could leave with at least 400 after about 6 hours at 20/song) I usually worked until the early hours of the morning (earliest I left was 5am) and the security hardly watched out for me. I will gladly take a little less money if it means I am safe and actually like where I work!
Melonie
01-06-2011, 01:09 PM
at a SC you are topless or fully nude. Second of all you are oogled, talked down to by dancers, management, and customers... assaulted by customers (touching you without your permission or inappropriately is assaulting), made to dance for sometimes no stage tips, you have to wear next to nothing when it's freezing in the club, wear VERY uncomfortable shoes, experience the feeling of degradation when your lines are crossed, feel like your space is invaded, always have to act happy, be fined when you are late to work or from break, and worst of all YOU PAY to work there AND you have to follow many similar rules as employees while working AND you do not qualify for unemployment or disability, nor does the club give you or your children benefits. And guess what? I MUST work holidays--and if it's slow that sucks for me, NO BONUS OR OVERTIME!!!
SO, while I know there are perks such as being paid well, making your own schedule, and having flexibility--but for everything listed above I will say that in terms of 'effort' and what we 'put up with' there is a good reason I will be livid if I ever make less than $200 in a shift, and very irritated at less than $300.
Sorry for being late catching up to this post. Indeed Laurisa points out the DIRECT trade-offs involved for most exotic dancers. But there are now also a lot of INDIRECT trade-offs that need to be kept in mind. Among them ...
- being swept up in a (bogus) club bust can leave you with a black mark on your permanent record, which in turn can have negative long term ramifications with certain 'straight' job employers, with family courts etc.
- even without a (bogus) club bust, various public records of the fact that you worked as a 'stripper' ( i.e. dancer's licenses, 1099's from well known strip clubs etc. ) can also have negative long term ramifications as discussed above.
- working as a 'stripper' also potentially exposes a girl to an elevated risk of stalking ( typically disgruntled club customers and/or overzealous 'suitors' )
- working as a 'stripper' also potentially exposes a girl to an elevated risk of robbery / burglary ( typically a friend or family member )
- working as a 'stripper' creates pressures to keep part of your life 'secret' from friends and family.
- working as a 'stripper' creates pressures on personal relationships.
My point here is that there are lots of indirect negative side-effects that also factor into the pro and con equation ! The potential dollar magnitude of some of these indirect possibilities potentially far outshadows a $200 per night pre-tax earnings level - particularly for girls who are investing large amounts of study time and tuition money to prepare for a profession where their previous 'stripper' experience may later deny them lucrative 'straight job' opportunities for the rest of their lives.
TiffanyRae
01-09-2011, 02:13 PM
i admire ALL of you for your efforts...however...you may want to look at it this way....$ 150.00 divided by 8 is 18.75 per hour...considering this is the MINIMUM it seems anyone posting in this forum is making...i'd say that ALL of you are making more than not only the average recent college graduate (not including special disciplines), but at this point you are making more than the average American Citizen...PLUS you have that one night where you OVERACHIEVE...AND REMEMBER MOST DANCERS ARE NOT TAXED UPFRONT!!! Not too bad in a shitty economy where the specialist(s) can't even find a job in their field LOL
GrrrrrL PREACH! your not saying nothing but the truth. granted most have to check thier dignity at the door and deal with being degraded all night, if your pulling $100 a night on your worst night, i always say, "you can Never have a bad night 2 days in a row." never happened to me in 9 years of dancing. so always know tomorrow is another day and it will be better. if you work 5 days a week, $100 a night, thats $500 a week, 2k a month. Thats more than my friend who owns a restaurant makes. and dancers never make only $100 a night 5 days in a row, we Bank!
shift_6x
01-09-2011, 02:30 PM
GrrrrrL PREACH! your not saying nothing but the truth. granted most have to check thier dignity at the door and deal with being degraded all night, if your pulling $100 a night on your worst night, i always say, "you can Never have a bad night 2 days in a row." never happened to me in 9 years of dancing. so always know tomorrow is another day and it will be better. if you work 5 days a week, $100 a night, thats $500 a week, 2k a month. Thats more than my friend who owns a restaurant makes. and dancers never make only $100 a night 5 days in a row, we Bank!
..Although this is extremely uplifting it isnt accurate. Depending on ur location u can have a bad nite several nites in a row. Here's an example--Lets say u have 5 bookings a week which means u work 5 days a week for apprx 2 hours whichis the avg time of a shift--Well U could avg 30-55-85-50-25--Thats 245 for a weeks worth of work..Around here u may think since the shifts r so short y not do multiple shifts..U can do that but the problem is when u overbook people get tired of seeing u..so its a less is more type of thing that sometimes makes u the most money around here. I know girl who said that 2-3 of her shifts last week ended in $0. Sadly, it all depends on the luck of the draw and the time of the booking..That makes things even more competitive.