View Full Version : What do you consider "making bank" for camming
TheBrownFox
09-08-2010, 08:35 AM
Now if THAT (Devon's above post) isn't motivating, I don't know what is. :)
TheBrownFox
09-08-2010, 08:36 AM
Now if THAT (Devon's post) isn't motivating, I don't know what is! :)
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 08:42 AM
Very well said...
BUT... I couldn't have typed all of that.. WOW! Thumbs up!
This made me want to cam full time again.
DevonSantos
09-08-2010, 09:14 AM
Blame it on the Red Bull! :-)
pushit69
09-08-2010, 09:24 AM
Blame it on the Red Bull! :-)
blame it on the redbull, rain or whatever LOL Your post was Very motivational Devon!:-*
Now time to make that $$$$
DevonSantos
09-08-2010, 09:46 AM
blame it on the redbull, rain or whatever LOL Your post was Very motivational Devon!:-*
Now time to make that $$$$
Its super easy for any random person to come on a forum and post that they make this and that, and such and such without really conditioning someone else's mind for success which is the reason we have this forum in the first place. You better believe in this business that if you are NOT making alot of money, someone else online is making alot of money off of YOU! As a cam model you WILL BE or HAVE BEEN downloaded, copied, pasted, edited, printed, received, sent, deleted, brought, sold, traded, posted, faxed, emailed, scanned, and hacked. That is money us models lose on a daily basis every single time we sign into our accounts and log on to go ''live''. So you need to make sure that the risk you are taking of being exploited is incredibly financially rewarding. The best bankers in this business are the models that have set schedules. Friends and fans need to be able to keep up with you and know when you are available so they can have their money prepared for you. Treat it like a job and you will get paid consistently like one. If you are inconsistent, your money will be as well.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 10:15 AM
I had a question for you devon, but you seem kinda private I guess I'll shoot you a PM, when i get back in from getting lil buddy from school.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 10:20 AM
I agree with you devon, and disagree. SOME people have children to tend to, some dont have enoguh privacy.... So the word "SHOULD" is a bit subjective.
I agree we should be paid TOP dollar Dont get me wrong...but some people are gonna have to get a pass....lol
Juliette25
09-08-2010, 10:29 AM
I agree with you devon, and disagree. SOME people have children to tend to, some dont have enoguh privacy.... So the word "SHOULD" is a bit subjective.
I agree we should be paid TOP dollar Dont get me wrong...but some people are gonna have to get a pass....lol
This is true. I've got a very young daughter so my time is limited. I Damn sure would work until I made 500 per day if I could though! I've gotta settle for around 300 right now as banking. But that number seems to be growing a bit every week. I DON'T settle for less than 240.
DevonSantos
09-08-2010, 10:53 AM
I understand what you are saying but that is where the ''residual'' income comes in to balance everything out. That's what allows me to travel a ton. The fact that I don't have to be ''online'' to make a ton of cash. If you are selling your images, videos, memberships, and all other various types of merchandise then you should be good. I place alot of focus on marketing my merchandise. Its pretty much my main topic when I'm online on MFC. TOPIC: 1500 tokens for my panties, 2000 tokens for my private phone line, 5000 for 20 min custom videos, and so on and so on. Relying solely on webcam shows alone to make BIG bank in this industry is not how its done.
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 10:56 AM
^ Exactly @ Devon!
Most top models sell panties, vids, access to their phone lines.... etc to make money. I know a model that sells ringtones (her voice) and calendars.
As a mother I will have to disagree and say YES you can make $500 or more a day. hire a sitter/enroll your kids in daycare or GET A NANNY!
My daughter has a nanny but I enrolled her into daycare last week so she can be with other children and she loves it. While she's at daycare I'm either at an appointment (escorting) or selling vids on yahoo not even camming.
There are even programs that will help you pay for child care if you cannot afford it. I used to cam with my daughter in the house but now I cannot do it.. she's getting bigger and she makes sure her presence is known LOL!
If your daughter/son goes to daycare from 9am to 6pm make your cam time 10am t0 5pm. Being a mother is really not an excuse unless you have an insane amount of kids.
P.s Melaina is on her way to daycare right now.. Thank goodness! *sigh*
Good luck everyone!
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 11:09 AM
I understand what you are saying but that is where the ''residual'' income comes in to balance everything out. That's what allows me to travel a ton. The fact that I don't have to be ''online'' to make a ton of cash. If you are selling your images, videos, memberships, and all other various types of merchandise then you should be good. I place alot of focus on marketing my merchandise. Its pretty much my main topic when I'm online on MFC. TOPIC: 1500 tokens for my panties, 2000 tokens for my private phone line, 5000 for 20 min custom videos, and so on and so on. Relying solely on webcam shows alone to make BIG bank in this industry is not how its done.
Thanks. now I take that back. you are absolutely right. and i love you dearly...lol
Juliette25
09-08-2010, 11:21 AM
I know right like what the hell was I thinking? LOL Daddy is here during the day so I don't have to pay for daycare while I sleep in (thank God). I do need to work harder on producing content to sell. I'm also working on affiliate marketing I'd like to make more money off of that. If I work harder on those two things I should definitely be able to make at least $500 per day. Thanks Devon :)
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 11:32 AM
I mean you can keep you kids cooped up to make money but I rather take care of my children. the money comes secondary to me. If my kids knock on the door for snacks, then snacks it is, logg off. I cant see my self ignoring or even not bonding with my kids to sell pussy.
AND im not saying anything Directly to none of you guys, so please dont take it that way.
But I do agree with residual income. I can sit at home all day selling shit because nobody would know what I am doing on the computer if I sat right next to them. I just dont agree with nannying your kids all day to make money. thats what celebrities do, and id be suprise if the KID actually felt a bond to there parents.
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 11:41 AM
We'll have to agree to disagree PPG and this is a first for me ... I will explan why..
I spend MAD time with my daughter she is always here EXCEPT when I have to work. I'm not afraid to let someone else take care of her at all. She has in good hands and I trust both my nanny and the daycare she is enrolled in to take good care of her. I interviewed 24 people before I hired the nanny that we have now and she's like family to us. My daughter calls her "Grandma".. (and she's white lol.. it's cute )
My nanny used to come and watch her HERE at home while I worked in my room before I decided to enroll her in a good daycare. There are women that put their children in daycare because they have to work. Everyone's not a camgirl/escort we have the freedom of staying home to work alot of ppl don't....they HAVE to take their children to daycare so they can work to take care of their children... this brings me to my next point.
Without money you can't take care of your kids. I refuse to let the government take care of my daughter.. this is why I work. I work so she can live in a nice home, wear nice clothes, go to a good school and EVENTUALLY go to a wonderful university.
I LOVE being with my baby I really do .. IF I don't take her to a daycare THEN I will not reach my full potential $ wise to be able to take care of her, pay the bills, take care of myself, .. so we can travel, go shopping, go out to eat after church on sundays.. etc. Some people can get by with just $100 a day I cannot. I have a lifestyle that I have to keep up with and dammit I love it. Again what do you think people in the non adult world do for childcare?
Bonding? pffft... We have enough time to bond. So those people that work 9-5 don't bond with their kids? C'mon ppg think about it. It's the same exact thing.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 11:44 AM
" I used to cam with my daughter in the house but now I cannot do it.. she's getting bigger and she makes sure her presence is known LOL! "
Se, I can only speak of me personally, but i wouldnt mark it off at an excuse, id mark it off as something that happens in life, and you have to choose whats more important.
since 150-300 is okay with me, I dont see myself ignoring my kids just to make $200 more. Id be kidding myself. My lifestyle is set like that.
BUTTTTTTTTTTTT dont get me WRONG. anytime I find even the little oppurtunity to jump on cam after my kids come home for school, im all on it!!!! lmao (and of course id make a lil more, but i cant call it my "goal" because its unreasonable for my lifestyle.. with out going to far into my personal life)
I REALLY like this discussion ...its really hustleriffic and inspring, helping us see other options to get MORE $$$$$$ if we have a certain issue.
But you know I have a question right? and its rhetorical , I already know the answer, I just know that there are difference in opinions and i would like to hear them.
1. when selling "overpriced" items ( panties, videos ..and xy z) how do YOU (not somebody else) convince the customer that what your charging is normal.
I'll answer my own question in a minute.
those that "overcharge" for items , how do you convince the customer it
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 11:47 AM
??? read my post fully babes.
Again. Those ppl that work 9-5 regular jobs what do you think they do for childcare? For you to say that putting my daughter in daycare/or having my nanny watch her is not right because we're not able to bond is bull.
My daughter will grow up to be independent just like I am. When I am not doing anything she is here .. but if I am working (camming/escorting) she is being taken care of elsewhere. Celebrities get nannies because of the work their jobs entail.. so do I.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 11:48 AM
but then again if i answered it it wouldnt be rhetorical.
haha.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 11:50 AM
??? read my post fully babes.
i think i typed that when i you posted. so it came out AFER instead of before;)
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 11:52 AM
The customer pays whatever you want him to if he likes you. Just like in any other adult business.. (escorting/camming)
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 11:55 AM
??? read my post fully babes.
Again. Those ppl that work 9-5 regular jobs what do you think they do for childcare? For you to say that putting my daughter in daycare/or having my nanny watch her is not right because we're not able to bond is bull.
noep now read my post. No offense.
lol
I was actually meaning ALL DAY like celebs. I nkow damn well you wouldnt do that to your child hun, but i can see how you missed what I was saying, so I apologize, because I know how it feels being a mother itself. =)
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 11:57 AM
You call childcare "ignoring your kids"... I don't understand that. That's what I called bull on.
I am not telling you to take your kids to a daycare so you can make $200 MORE. If $50 a day was enough for YOUR lifestyle then by all means but the notion that taking your child to a sitter or having a nanny is ignoring him/her.. HMMMMMM I disagree big time.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 11:58 AM
The customer pays whatever you want him to if he likes you. Just like in any other adult business.. (escorting/camming)
Ya damn right. My customer always say I know your about to break my pockets but your soooooooooooo woth it. That shit is funny. I push the limits until I scare em a little THEN i back down
Like I will sit there and tell you a bagel cost $23.50 and make you pay for it.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 12:00 PM
You call childcare "ignoring your kids"... I don't understand that. That's what I called bull on.
THAS NOT WHAT I MEANT. In my perception when i hear NANNY, not DAYCARE i think of a woman taking care of another womans child all day, like a second parent.
Bu then again I never had a nanny, so im sure you will (if you want) tell em how it works. I am can only speak of school & daycare because Im not paying nobodys $500 dollars a week ( i got some cheap ass tendencies...lmao)
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 12:01 PM
I think I made a generalization about ALL nanny relationships beacause what I see in movies and tv.. .. thats why i would be delighted if you will explain to break the stereotypes.
I dont like to be ignorant, so im willing to learn
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 12:05 PM
QUESTION!!!!
if one model makes 50& - 85%
and another makes say like... 30% - 50%
doint the exact same thing... its it fair to compare them?
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 12:15 PM
THAS NOT WHAT I MEANT. In my perception when i hear NANNY, not DAYCARE i think of a woman taking care of another womans child all day, like a second parent.
Bu then again I never had a nanny, so im sure you will (if you want) tell em how it works. I am can only speak of school & daycare because Im not paying nobodys $500 dollars a week ( i got some cheap ass tendencies...lmao)
You want me to explain and I will. I think I have before but here goes.
I went through a nanny agency that cost me $800 a year. (The $800 was just to be registered/to have access to the nanny directory)
My nanny costs me $450 a week. This is Full time. She is highly trained in childcare and certified in the state of North Carolina, She is not a live in. If I wanted a live in I will pay $600 a week PLUS allowance for an Au Pair.
I can call my nanny now and she'll come here and take care of my daughter. Whatever my daughter needs she'll go and get it. If I am not here or out of the state working I can call my nanny. She can cook, She cleans , teaches my daughter new things and takes her out while I am working. I can leave $5,000 cash in the same room with my nanny and come back two days later and it will still be in the same spot untouched. That is how much I trust her. I interviewed 24 good nannies through the agency before I hired her and I do not regret my decision at all. For those that can afford a nanny they're a must have. She is like family to us.
DevonSantos
09-08-2010, 12:26 PM
But you know I have a question right? and its rhetorical , I already know the answer, I just know that there are difference in opinions and i would like to hear them.
1. when selling "overpriced" items ( panties, videos ..and xy z) how do YOU (not somebody else) convince the customer that what your charging is normal.
I'll answer my own question in a minute.
those that "overcharge" for items , how do you convince the customer it
What is overpriced to you?.....
I charge a much more expensive fee for ''customized'' videos so 250.00(net) for a masturbation video of me moaning a customers name and being given direction as well as the customer knowing that NO ONE ELSE has the vid, is an incredible fee for me that works well. Especially considering the fact that the website is going to take their percentage out. I do not care about the gross, only the NET, which is what goes into ''my pocket''. I have no concern of what the customer is being fully charged. I am only concerned about what I take home at the end of the day. I do not base my pricing on what other models are charging. I base my pricing on my ''lifestyle'', not what is reasonable. Custom videos can be super time consuming and then after shooting the vid, and editing, and the whole nine, you've placed in an hour worth of time that could have been spent camming online. What some can't afford, the medium few that can...PAY! That enables me to work less and profit more. I have something to offer all kinds of men. If he can't afford any of my merchandise then he can simply take me private for a cam show. :-) I will say that of all the things I sell, my phone number and panties sales are top sellers for me.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 12:35 PM
Thanks Devon, I asked that wuestion because even though i knew the naswer to it, I have a hard time selling customs! Im like WTF ? I can sell a $6 pvt for everyday of my life, but cant sell a 100$ + video to save my life! I get very fustrated.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to do more customizable vidoes. but where do i find the customers that got money to spend, instead of these trifling ass, cheap ass , nickling and dime MOFO's?
I think mfc is a good spot to sell shit....but i also need another place to look,
I am usually a hustler, but im not afraid to say this is where I fall short.
so any advice im grateful for.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 12:37 PM
When I put "overpriced" i meant it very sarcastically,because I charge $5 a minute and dudes act like I just told them to jump off a bridge.
is it because they see the TOTAL, ( because in a pvt, you dont see your money depleting) ????
DevonSantos
09-08-2010, 12:38 PM
QUESTION!!!!
if one model makes 50& - 85%
and another makes say like... 30% - 50%
doint the exact same thing... its it fair to compare them?
I WOULD NEVER EVER IN MY ENTIRE LIFE WORK ON ANY WEBCAM SITE FOR LESS THAN 50% or for a website that does not offer models incentives for bringing in their own traffic. Bottomline! I would go independent or back to the stripclub before I did that. Fuck Streamate or any other site that takes more than 50% from the model. I do not care about their traffic. I do not like that site. Not for me. I'm too smart for Streamate.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 12:41 PM
what sites offer over 50% other than MFC, & rude ?
I totally dig your mind frame and i want to head in that direction.
DevonSantos
09-08-2010, 12:55 PM
MFC and IF are the only sites that I am active on and make incredible pay on so I am uneducated about all others. Once you find an incredible system of sites that work for you, there is no need to look anywhere else so I have no idea cutie! :-) My first webcam site was CWH back when Abbie was managing the site full time and us girls over there made 500.00-1k per day in a few short hours doing absolutely nothing but being sittin pretty and making Vogue camera poses to the webcam. Seriously! I work harder now than I ever have before but I still LOVE it. Abbie was the best! She taught me well. Much respect to her!
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 01:00 PM
see this is my issue.
I LOVE streamate.....lmao
But THEN i charge $5.00 and I want my damn $5 not 1.74 wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Npw im extra salty right now and refuse to log into any site except AW at the moment so i can clear my brain !!!!
I actually own a notebook that I take notes in so im researching some sites right now. ANd about to fill out the rest of the info that too exactly one year to do...(slacker...hahaha)
I do really well with fanclubs on sites, so I think i should get off my ass and do this paper work and stop bullshitting myself.
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 01:17 PM
I'm not even on streamate. I hear how so many girls do well on it.. I just couldn't do. I'm not one of those people that follows what everyone else is doing. I guess you can say... I set the trend... LOL!
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 01:20 PM
I admit, the traffic has bamboozled me.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 01:21 PM
Malya where do you cam, im taking notes here, help me out haha
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 01:26 PM
Malya where do you cam, im taking notes here, help me out haha
If I told you I'd have to kill ya LMAO.. no jk
I don't "cam" on those type of sites anymore but I still do the guaranteed $100 an hour camshows on site I am not willing to share openly and selling vids on yahoo. I have about 10 vids and they sell like crazy. I need to open up a C4S asap! Laziness is a bad thing!
Escort work has even taken a back seat.. I am working on my adult industry exit plan >>> Starting a non adult business (opening a boutique here in Charlotte). My next move will be to Open a studio and train models. There's too much money online to leave it alone completely.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 01:37 PM
how much does webcamclub pay..
EDIT : its says up to %40 what the hell do the mean UP TO ?!
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 01:40 PM
If I told you I'd have to kill ya LMAO.. no jk
I don't "cam" on those type of sites anymore but I still do the guaranteed $100 an hour camshows on site I am not willing to share openly
>:(:'(>:(
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 01:41 PM
how much does webcamclub pay..
EDIT : its says up to %40 what the hell do the mean UP TO ?!
The last time I checked.. it was 40%.
I don't cam on there. I do the shows thorough another site.
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 01:56 PM
nono I dodnt know if you worked there or not, but i heard that named mentioned recently. Im about to also look int camwhores as well. but they ignored my friend so i dont know whats good with them right now.
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 01:59 PM
nono I dodnt know if you worked there or not, but i heard that named mentioned recently. Im about to also look int camwhores as well. but they ignored my friend so i dont know whats good with them right now.
You might want to join camwhores despite how they treated your friend. I have been on that site since day 1. Their private forum is a frikkin Gold mine! So many money making ideas!
BellaBellini
09-08-2010, 02:07 PM
I WOULD NEVER EVER IN MY ENTIRE LIFE WORK ON ANY WEBCAM SITE FOR LESS THAN 50% or for a website that does not offer models incentives for bringing in their own traffic. Bottomline! I would go independent or back to the stripclub before I did that. Fuck Streamate or any other site that takes more than 50% from the model. I do not care about their traffic. I do not like that site. Not for me. I'm too smart for Streamate.
Not that you need any additional advice because you are doing so well, but streamate does offer you more than 30% if you bring in your own traffic. Here is there program for models to promote themselves:
'Send new members and earn more! Every time your members come to see you, you will earn an additional 40% from your premium chats. As an added bonus, you will earn an additional 20% for all other premium chats your member has on the site, no matter who they chat with!'
I just wanted to include that info for other models because it is possible to make 50% on streamate. Well done on doing so well on MFC:) I think I missed the boat on that one. It takes so long to increase your cam score to move up the page unless you are a certain type of model:/
malayataylor
09-08-2010, 02:09 PM
Not that you need any additional advice because you are doing so well, but streamate does offer you more than 30% if you bring in your own traffic. Here is there program for models to promote themselves:
'Send new members and earn more! Every time your members come to see you, you will earn an additional 40% from your premium chats. As an added bonus, you will earn an additional 20% for all other premium chats your member has on the site, no matter who they chat with!'
I just wanted to include that info for other models because it is possible to make 50% on streamate. Well done on doing so well on MFC:) I think I missed the boat on that one. It takes so long to increase your cam score to move up the page unless you are a certain type of model:/
:O Interesting.
ChatGF
09-08-2010, 03:20 PM
Not that you need any additional advice because you are doing so well, but streamate does offer you more than 30% if you bring in your own traffic. Here is there program for models to promote themselves:
'Send new members and earn more! Every time your members come to see you, you will earn an additional 40% from your premium chats. As an added bonus, you will earn an additional 20% for all other premium chats your member has on the site, no matter who they chat with!'
I just wanted to include that info for other models because it is possible to make 50% on streamate. Well done on doing so well on MFC:) I think I missed the boat on that one. It takes so long to increase your cam score to move up the page unless you are a certain type of model:/
All sites (except maybe mfc) have a webmaster/affiliate program that pays 20% to 30% of what is spent by guys you bring to the site (if they join with your affiliate link). Then you add this to the % that site pay and you can go at 50% up to 80% in certain cases. I hear imlive and ifriends even give 100% on your guys?
But hey, if you have your own guys you can ask them to pay in paypal and show in yahoo and get 100% in any case, so when it comes to pay for your own guys a site should give no less than 80% or is a ripoff aniway.
Also about sites who pay 50% or more there is lots but is those that girls skip as no traffic or no one you know work here so you not trust etc.
So the quesiton is how many known sites with big traffic pay 50% or more and then is MFC, if you go fish for smaller sites there is lots.
BritishBecky
09-08-2010, 03:28 PM
So the quesiton is how many known sites with big traffic pay 50% or more and then is MFC, if you go fish for smaller sites there is lots.
There is money to be made on ifriends at 50% and yes they do pay 100% on referrals :D
pussyplayground
09-08-2010, 03:29 PM
smaller sites such as?
BritishBecky
09-08-2010, 03:31 PM
oh and isn't camcontacts 50%? I haven't worked there for years. I think the traffic is a bit iffy? Also, one of my oldtime regulars refound me recently and he was only a member of camcontacts. I made him sign up with ifriends. He was shock shock shocked at the prices (seemed genuine and he still paid me my rate) so I wonder if the girls on camcontacts tend to charge less?
BellaBellini
09-08-2010, 03:35 PM
But hey, if you have your own guys you can ask them to pay in paypal and show in yahoo and get 100% in any case, so when it comes to pay for your own guys a site should give no less than 80% or is a ripoff aniway.
If you accept paypal for cam shows you run the risk of getting nothing for your shows because they will freeze your account & possibly fine you $500 for violating their rules.
Processing for adult transactions is high risk for credit card companies. Those are the rules of the game, we can't change that.