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Chili Palmer
09-14-2010, 08:31 PM
I don't know if you would specifically call this "extras" as it takes place OTC but the reason I "date" strippers instead of seeing escorts is because:

<snip>

Anyway, it works for me...

Uh, oh, better stock up on bottled water and dehydrated foodstuffs. The End of Days draws nigh...

Golden Rule and I agree on this 100%. :yikes: :spin: :faint: :worried: :paperbag:

CP

yoda57us
09-14-2010, 08:45 PM
"utter ignorance"..."completely delusional"..."irrational, fear-laced diatribe." Wow, you're quite the drama queen and a little too passionate about escort info don't you think. Relax. This is a group of sc junkies discussing where to best get off, not senators debating over legislation.

Actually I think CO put it rather well. You made statements about things that simply are not true and have no basis in fact. Debate is debate mark. I don't know where you got these ideas from and I can't begin to fathom how you fashioned whatever you read, assumed or were told by others into such a blatantly ignorant take on the P4P sex industry. You introduced the topic, not CO, myself or any of the others who are debating your misinformed assumptions here. It's wrong to be passionate about something that we may know something about? Clearly you don't!


How about this... my fears over the risks of seeing escorts were exaggerated or "worst case scenario." I think that's closer to the truth. As I said, I learned a lot here, but in now way was I way off base as you imply with your over the top comments.

Yeah you were, you are just back-pedaling now because you've been schooled...

Chili Palmer
09-14-2010, 09:17 PM
You'll also lose your wife (or gf), everything she takes in the divorce, your kids, and you'll be publicly humiliated and ostracized by friends and family! Men have killed themselves over this type of thing.


Wow, you're quite the drama queen and a little too passionate about escort info don't you think.

Pot. Kettle. Black. Pwned!


CP

Golden_Rule
09-15-2010, 01:23 PM
Uh, oh, better stock up on bottled water and dehydrated foodstuffs. The End of Days draws nigh...

Golden Rule and I agree on this 100%. :
CP

I've read you long enough to know that in regard to the types of things being discussed in these parts we are more alike than different. ;)

ilbbaicnl
09-15-2010, 10:01 PM
And you know this how? If I showed you pictures (I'm not going to) of a few dozen of the escorts I've seen over the last ten years or so since I stopped picking up streetwalkers and started paying more than $60 for a quickie you might re-consider your opinion on this. The fact is a ton of the escorts I have seen either danced before or after escorting or did both at the same time. Generalizing is never a good idea. There are very attractive, reasonably attractive and not-so attractive women working in every part of the sex industry.

Each of us can normally only speak of their own experience, so there's no reason to get bent if someone else's experience is different from yours.

It's not strictly true that I've only seen a couple of good-looking escorts. I've seen many escorts who are so non-GFE that they insist you immediately penetrate them and some don't allow you to caress them at all even during penetration. I consider that a borderline rip-off, I don't even count those women as escorts, good-looking or not. I'd rather get a clean lapdance than do like they do on the Discovery Channel.

I'll also make the correction that you can more easily find beautiful GFE TOURING escorts. But you waste so much money finding the good ones, generally only to never see them again.

ilbbaicnl
09-15-2010, 10:33 PM
... Inside a club, I am absolutely anonymous. I don't even carry my wallet or ID inside with me, just the cash I plan on spending. ...

But if your car (with your plate) is in the lot, pretty much anyone can find out you're in there. As opposed to just the escorts you patronize knowing.

It might be nice if dancers had the option of working at a club that did minimal screening like how date-check.com does. Date-check has a black list for scum customers. I've heard many, many dancers complain about customers pulling off their thongs, trying to pull off their thongs, trying to put their fingers inside them. Don't get me wrong, I know that, just because you want your privacy, that does not mean you want to force a dancer to do anything. But maybe you're overestimating the privacy you're getting, and underestimating the cost to the girls.

Kylea2
09-15-2010, 10:49 PM
^^^ I talk about that on my website in the private dance contract. The good thing about the clubs is they have lots of bouncers versus just one... but it still doesn't mean they are fully safe or that the scum won't come in. I think I actually prefer private dancing because clients know I have their info & have security... so they are less likely to mess with me! Also, DC did verify me... but I haven't seen the blacklist on the site that you are referring to.

Chili Palmer
09-15-2010, 11:23 PM
But if your car (with your plate) is in the lot, pretty much anyone can find out you're in there. As opposed to just the escorts you patronize knowing.

It might be nice if dancers had the option of working at a club that did minimal screening like how date-check.com does. Date-check has a black list for scum customers. I've heard many, many dancers complain about customers pulling off their thongs, trying to pull off their thongs, trying to put their fingers inside them. Don't get me wrong, I know that, just because you want your privacy, that does not mean you want to force a dancer to do anything. But maybe you're overestimating the privacy you're getting, and underestimating the cost to the girls.

You know, I've been happy to see the Blue side get more energized of late, seeing some new faces and engaging in some spirited debates. Between carmenb's loopy post the other day and now this one, I'm starting to rethink my position.

Let me try to explain it to you s...l...o...w...l....y.

First off, how is a dancer in a club going to see my license plate on my car in the parking lot? But let's put that mystery aside for a moment. A few years back a new strip club opened up in Pico Rivera. It was in a strip mall, not bothering anyone, but the local church brigade decided they didn't want a strip club in their (lower middle/working class) city and protested daily out front. When cars pulled into the lot they'd jeer at the drivers and yes, take pictures of the car's license plate. I'd get out of my car and pose like a "Price is Right" hand model by it. WTF do I care if they, you or anyone else knows I'm in a strip club? Anyone and everyone who knows me knows that if I'm not working, golfing, playing softball or at home watching tv, there's a better than even chance I'm someplace watching titties bounce up and down.

Also, what is she going to do with a license plate number? Does she have a day job at the DMV where she run my plate? You know, it's illegal even for the cops to run a license plate without cause. I'd welcome that intrusion, because by the time that case got settled, I'd have more than enough money to bang all the strippers and escorts I want.

Now back to reality. This is a typical exchange between me and almost every dancer I've fucked over the last 20 years:

1. Dancer finishes about a half hour of dances with me, with her hand in my pants and my hands and mouth on every available body part (ooh, so unsanitary!).

Me: Well, that was certainly fun. Ever considered finishing what we started outside of here?

Dancer: I'd love to. When did you have in mind?

Me: How about Thursday. Give me your number and I'll text you where and when.

Her. Okay.

Me: See you then. (Pays for dances.)

That's it. She has my first name and my phone number. No harm, no foul. If and when we do meet up, I'm parked away from my room and backed into the parking space for good measure (AZ does not have front license plates). She shows up, knocks on the door, I open it, we proceed to have a wonderfully dirty time together. I pay her, she leaves. I shower, I leave.

This is what can (and did) happen on February 13th, 2009.




Police on Thursday released the more than 3,000 names of people suspected of being clients of a Phoenix-based prostitution organization.
The organization, known as Desert Divas, set up sex meetings throughout the Valley, including at the Biltmore in Phoenix, according to the documents.


The records also show client activity, such as one man who visited prostitutes as many as 34 times in a two-year period.


However, police said none of the people on the list is currently under investigation as part of what is believed to be the state's largest prostitution sting.


Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/community/phoenix/articles/2009/02/13/20090213desertdivas0213.html#ixzz0zfcZFUJr


That's what is happening more and more with the escort services.

As for private escorts, at least the better ones that I want to see, most of them now ask for more personal information that the FBI did when I was getting my security clearance from them in 1983. While I absolutely understand their desire for safety, when that desire conflicts with my priority to not let a sex worker have access to everything short of my social security # and ATM PIN, I draw the line and vote with my feet to the nearest SC, where, more often that not, a more than willing and nubile young lass is absolutely thrilled to take my money and satiate my lusts.

CP

ilbbaicnl
09-15-2010, 11:54 PM
^^^ And strip clubs have been targeted by the police because the dancers were arranging P4P with customers. So far, I haven't heard of the cops taking down plates and hauling in customers for questioning, they only hassle the dancers. For many years, the cops never arrested john for trying to pick up streetwalkers. But now they do it all the time.

BTW, the real John Travolta would tell it's the Body Thetans that make you want to be so condescending to everyone.

Kylea2
09-16-2010, 12:01 AM
^^^ LOL I actually had a customer ask me the other day in a club if I was an undercover cop. I told him no... but if I could be I can't say I would turn down the job.

Chili Palmer
09-16-2010, 12:12 AM
BTW, the real John Travolta would tell it's the Body Thetans that make you want to be so condescending to everyone.

Not everyone. Just the 'tards.

CP

ilbbaicnl
09-16-2010, 12:13 AM
^^^ The bouncers might be able to loan you some handcuffs. Hit that girl, the fetish guys pay the most! He wants an interrogation, Gitmo-style.

Kylea2
09-16-2010, 12:15 AM
^^^ LOL Maybe Athena & I could do a double & play "good cop / bad cop"!

ilbbaicnl
09-16-2010, 12:20 AM
Not everyone. Just the 'tards.

CP

Who, coincidentally, are everyone who disagrees with you about anything.

I guess that's why you choose such an intellectual powerhouse to be your avatar. Did you have a hard time picking between John Travolta and Tom Cruise?

yoda57us
09-16-2010, 04:50 AM
Each of us can normally only speak of their own experience, so there's no reason to get bent if someone else's experience is different from yours.


Bent? Me? Dude, you posted an opinion. I disagreed with it, that's all.
You and I are two total strangers at opposite ends of an internet connection. I don't know you. We are just a bunch of opinions here. My tone is my tone...

FWIW, if you had posted something like "In my experience strippers are better looking than escorts" my response may well have been worded differently. Also, I do happen to agree with you that the quality of escorts can vary greatly in both appearance and attitude as you move from quickie "one and done" girls to GFE types. I've seen a few young hotties for small money over the years but I couldn't get them out of my room fast enough once they stopped screwing and started talking...

It's just a message board, don't take it too seriously...

Chili Palmer
09-16-2010, 07:17 PM
Who, coincidentally, are everyone who disagrees with you about anything.

I guess that's why you choose such an intellectual powerhouse to be your avatar. Did you have a hard time picking between John Travolta and Tom Cruise?

Seriously, the best comeback you've got is to pick on my avatar? Not once but twice?

At this point, it would just be cruel to keep up with the "battle," I'll give you some advice. When you come onto a new bulletin board, instead of trying to impress everyone with a case of diarrhea of the keyboard and posting your "thoughts" in every single topic, relax and try to stay focused on just a few topics.

Who knows where that could lead? For instance, when (name withheld) first joined SW, he annoyed the piss out of every dancer (and most dudes), posting in every topic like 10-20, even 30 times a day, if not more. He's a big reason more of Pink is locked down than it used to be from guys posting. He finally calmed down, and now he's banging one of the Pinkies. There's a lesson in there somewhere.

That could be you, too, if you play your cards right. I'm just sayin'.



CP

KS_Stevia
09-17-2010, 05:40 PM
Who? Oh wait, I think I know of whom you speak....

rickdugan
09-17-2010, 05:54 PM
It might be nice if dancers had the option of working at a club that did minimal screening like how date-check.com does. Date-check has a black list for scum customers. I've heard many, many dancers complain about customers pulling off their thongs, trying to pull off their thongs, trying to put their fingers inside them. Don't get me wrong, I know that, just because you want your privacy, that does not mean you want to force a dancer to do anything. But maybe you're overestimating the privacy you're getting, and underestimating the cost to the girls.

Sure, but why stop there? How 'bout criminal background searches and credit checks? In fact, anyone in favor of DNA testing for genetic pre-dispositions towards violent or lewd behavior? ::)

CP called you a 'tard because a lot of what you posted on this thread was a bit loopy. At best I would attribute some of your comments to very limited and/or regional experiences.

Background checks? The p4p OTC dancers and escorts are the ugly ones? Really?

I suspect that the club that starts screening is going to be a very empty club indeed. And I have had sex with a lot of hot OTC dancers and even a few beautiful escorts over the years. I can tell you point blank that the level of attractiveness of a dancer is by no means a solid indicator of her willingness to do OTC. And on the escort front, while I am certainly no expert and yoda and CO are much better positioned than I to opine, even through my casual dipping over the years what you said makes no sense.

It is obvious that your experiences are very limited. It is not a matter of "disagreement" or "getting bent" when yoda and CP point out the issues with your statements or those of markx, but rather a case of experienced hands reacting to dubious comments that are obviously based upon limited experiences and faulty assumptions.

Far be it from me to tell anyone how to handle themselves, but a little less posting and more reading might not be such a bad start when you are on a board with so many who have done so much more than you have.

FBR
09-17-2010, 07:02 PM
I'm curious if libba is a stripper SO of some sort. Obviously, that is totally cool as we get dancer SO's and wannabe SO's here all the time. IMO most guys who come out so strongly (as opposed to just saying they prefer lower mileage but not overly critical of those who don't) are involved on a personal level in some way. That's fine but I would prefer that bias being stated upfront in order to set a baseline for discussion. Not saying this is so with the OP but it is curious IMO.

FBR

ilbbaicnl
09-17-2010, 11:10 PM
Seriously, the best comeback you've got is to pick on my avatar? Not once but twice?

At this point, it would just be cruel to keep up with the "battle," I'll give you some advice. When you come onto a new bulletin board, instead of trying to impress everyone with a case of diarrhea of the keyboard and posting your "thoughts" in every single topic, relax and try to stay focused on just a few topics.

Who knows where that could lead? For instance, when (name withheld) first joined SW, he annoyed the piss out of every dancer (and most dudes), posting in every topic like 10-20, even 30 times a day, if not more. He's a big reason more of Pink is locked down than it used to be from guys posting. He finally calmed down, and now he's banging one of the Pinkies. There's a lesson in there somewhere.

That could be you, too, if you play your cards right. I'm just sayin'.

CP

Frankly I post a lot because I can't find anything better to do with myself. I can't jack off as often as I could when I was younger. I can't buy into it that I'm a big annoyance to anybody, if for no other reason than this site has an "ignore user" feature.

Yes, our cut-down contest was boring, for both of us and 3rd parties, but I don't think that was entirely my fault.

I don't see how I'm not calm. I'm not panty-bunching about it whenever anybody disagrees with me. I'm certainly a failure at getting laid by dancers, but I don't think it's because of my posts here.

ilbbaicnl
09-17-2010, 11:37 PM
I'm curious if libba is a stripper SO of some sort. Obviously, that is totally cool as we get dancer SO's and wannabe SO's here all the time. IMO most guys who come out so strongly (as opposed to just saying they prefer lower mileage but not overly critical of those who don't) are involved on a personal level in some way. That's fine but I would prefer that bias being stated upfront in order to set a baseline for discussion. Not saying this is so with the OP but it is curious IMO.

FBR

Stripper SO HA! only in my dreams! I'm sorry that I've come across as passing judgement on any kind of sex anyone has with strippers, escorts, bardyard animals or some combination thereof. I don't take the dancer's side when they are against extras just because they don't want to compete with it. But I can understand it if they prefer that the extras were being offered someplace other than the club where they (the non-extras dancers) are working at. I just give, for what it's worth, my personal experiences. No stripper I found really attractive ever offered to do anything with my dick. 80-90% of the escorts I've been with were much less satisfactory than a dick-staying-in-my-pants but good lapdance. But I can readily believe it that if I lived in a bigger, more progressive city, I might have found better extras and/or escorts.

ilbbaicnl
09-17-2010, 11:46 PM
Sure, but why stop there? How 'bout criminal background searches and credit checks? In fact, anyone in favor of DNA testing for genetic pre-dispositions towards violent or lewd behavior? ::)

CP called you a 'tard because a lot of what you posted on this thread was a bit loopy. At best I would attribute some of your comments to very limited and/or regional experiences.

Background checks? The p4p OTC dancers and escorts are the ugly ones? Really?

I suspect that the club that starts screening is going to be a very empty club indeed. And I have had sex with a lot of hot OTC dancers and even a few beautiful escorts over the years. I can tell you point blank that the level of attractiveness of a dancer is by no means a solid indicator of her willingness to do OTC. And on the escort front, while I am certainly no expert and yoda and CO are much better positioned than I to opine, even through my casual dipping over the years what you said makes no sense.

It is obvious that your experiences are very limited. It is not a matter of "disagreement" or "getting bent" when yoda and CP point out the issues with your statements or those of markx, but rather a case of experienced hands reacting to dubious comments that are obviously based upon limited experiences and faulty assumptions.

Far be it from me to tell anyone how to handle themselves, but a little less posting and more reading might not be such a bad start when you are on a board with so many who have done so much more than you have.

I was once told by a dancer that I seemed like a Mafia hitman. Maybe that's what's cutting down on my getting offers of OTC sex from the hotter dancers.

rickdugan
09-18-2010, 07:39 AM
Frankly I post a lot because I can't find anything better to do with myself. I can't jack off as often as I could when I was younger. I can't buy into it that I'm a big annoyance to anybody, if for no other reason than this site has an "ignore user" feature.


Far be it from me to tell anyone how to handle themselves, but a little less posting and more reading might not be such a bad start when you are on a board with so many who have done so much more than you have.


I take back what I said before. After seeing your most recent machine gun posts in multiple threads, I think that you need to do more clubbing and a lot less posting.

I seriously question your claim in another thread that you spend $20k a year in clubs. And I've done take out in NC and know first hand that your region, while not as open as Texas, Florida or some other areas, is not exactly the midwest either.

You really need to do some more research and spend more time in the clubs learning how these things work. Many on here have paid lots in "tuition" (time and money) in order to accumulate info. and stories that are useful and/or entertaining, while your stuff simply makes no sense.

FBR questioned whether you were a SO to a stripper, but I was actually wondering whether your ribbon color was accurate. If so, then at best you are coming off as someone who doesn't know how to swim but nonetheless is wading into the deep end of the pool.

Athenathefabulous
09-18-2010, 08:09 AM
Am I the only one amused by the blues ruffling their feathers here over who has more knowledge about being a customer?

Just saying... When customers tell me how it works, regardless of
whether they spend 200$ or 20000$ a yr in the scs, I am always either amused or annoyed. Not sure if spending too much time in strip clubs is really worth anything for bragging rights.

:P

yoda57us
09-18-2010, 08:53 AM
Am I the only one amused by the blues ruffling their feathers here over who has more knowledge about being a customer?


LOL, amused, fascinated and thoroughly entertained! It's pretty clear that some blues view clubs and dancers in vastly different ways than others do.

rickdugan
09-18-2010, 09:41 AM
Am I the only one amused by the blues ruffling their feathers here over who has more knowledge about being a customer?

Just saying... When customers tell me how it works, regardless of

whether they spend 200$ or 20000$ a yr in the scs, I am always either amused or annoyed. Not sure if spending too much time in strip clubs is really worth anything for bragging rights.


Like I've always said, the debates often held in the basement must look to many pinks like retards arguing about who is smarter. Guess that is why SW has a basement. :D

You will note of course that the doorway to the basement has "Strip Club Junkie" on it, so one would imagine that it populated by guys who have a strong interest in clubs. I'm not sure if it is bragging to call out obviously bad posts, or to tell a poster that he (she?) should stop stuffing threads full of manure, but there it is.

And I find a lot of the posts on the pink side to be as moronic and amusing as I am sure you find many blue posts to be, but of course I know where I am when I read those posts and temper my expectations accordingly.

FBR
09-18-2010, 10:52 AM
Stripper SO HA! only in my dreams! I'm sorry that I've come across as passing judgement on any kind of sex anyone has with strippers, escorts, bardyard animals or some combination thereof. I don't take the dancer's side when they are against extras just because they don't want to compete with it. But I can understand it if they prefer that the extras were being offered someplace other than the club where they (the non-extras dancers) are working at. I just give, for what it's worth, my personal experiences. No stripper I found really attractive ever offered to do anything with my dick. 80-90% of the escorts I've been with were much less satisfactory than a dick-staying-in-my-pants but good lapdance. But I can readily believe it that if I lived in a bigger, more progressive city, I might have found better extras and/or escorts.

I take you at your word and thanks for the clarification. You might want to lose references to barnyard sex, though. I know you were trying to be cute but just saying.


80-90% of the escorts I've been with were much less satisfactory than a dick-staying-in-my-pants but good lapdance. Really? So why do you see escorts if it is more fun to just club? I get that they are different experiences but if I were you I would pony up more on the escort side (if they are not hot enough) in order to find an escort who WILL meet your expectations. I really don't follow your logic on this one.

FBR

Athenathefabulous
09-18-2010, 10:52 AM
Of course i'm aware what section of the site I'm at. I just find the whole "I'm more qualified because I find a lot of women in strip club willing to have sex with me for money" attitude ridiculous. No shit, strip clubs are full of desperate whores. Finding a girl willing to fuck you at your hotel for whatever some of money is not difficult.

It's like those women who say they are "good at shopping" because they can find sales. No shit, it's easy, walk into a store, look around, and find the big sign that says "buy or get one half off". Or like an idiot who says he "found god"
because jehovahs witnesses showed up at his door step one day and gave him a pamphlet. It's not hard to find whores in the club, and more often than not they come to you offering their extras without being asked. It's not hard and any idiot can do it, whether he intends to or not.


So yea, "ive banged so many strippers for pay so I'm a credible source of information is silly.".

That being said, so are the posts from ilbbaicnl. both sides sound pretty ridiculous from a 3rd party perspective.

FBR
09-18-2010, 10:55 AM
Am I the only one amused by the blues ruffling their feathers here over who has more knowledge about being a customer?

Just saying... When customers tell me how it works, regardless of
whether they spend 200$ or 20000$ a yr in the scs, I am always either amused or annoyed. Not sure if spending too much time in strip clubs is really worth anything for bragging rights.

:P

A little chest bumping...eh...so what LOL Guys do that and then will buy the other fellow a beer.

FBR

Athenathefabulous
09-18-2010, 10:58 AM
A little chest bumping...eh...so what LOL Guys do that and then will buy the other fellow a beer.

FBR

Doesn't stop it from being amusing. Especially considering what you boys are chest bumping over.

rickdugan
09-18-2010, 11:24 AM
Of course i'm aware what section of the site I'm at. I just find the whole "I'm more qualified because I find a lot of women in strip club willing to have sex with me for money" attitude ridiculous. No shit, strip clubs are full of desperate whores. Finding a girl willing to fuck you at your hotel for whatever some of money is not difficult.

It's like those women who say they are "good at shopping" because they can find sales. No shit, it's easy, walk into a store, look around, and find the big sign that says "buy or get one half off". Or like an idiot who says he "found god"
because jehovahs witnesses showed up at his door step one day and gave him a pamphlet. It's not hard to find whores in the club, and more often than not they come to you offering their extras without being asked. It's not hard and any idiot can do it, whether he intends to or not.


So yea, "ive banged so many strippers for pay so I'm a credible source of information is silly.".

That being said, so are the posts from ilbbaicnl. both sides sound pretty ridiculous from a 3rd party perspective.

Feel better now that you got all of that out? :)

Athenathefabulous
09-18-2010, 12:03 PM
Feel better now that you got all of that out? :)

Yes indeedy.

I'll let you boys get back to your pissing contest now ;).

ilbbaicnl
09-18-2010, 12:16 PM
That being said, so are the posts from ilbbaicnl. both sides sound pretty ridiculous from a 3rd party perspective.

I was so ready to hit the thanks button. You can't have my spleen anymore. :'(

ilbbaicnl
09-18-2010, 12:35 PM
I take you at your word and thanks for the clarification. You might want to lose references to barnyard sex, though. I know you were trying to be cute but just saying.

Really? So why do you see escorts if it is more fun to just club? I get that they are different experiences but if I were you I would pony up more on the escort side (if they are not hot enough) in order to find an escort who WILL meet your expectations. I really don't follow your logic on this one.

FBR

Sorry about the barnyard thing, just kidding.

Probably been over a year since, I've seen an escort. There are a few new ones on the net whose *pictures* look really good. But I feel like Charlie Brown once again trying to kick the football Lucy's holding. The local talent here doesn't charge more than $300/hr. The ex-dancer I use to see only charged $180, but I tipped her $120 because she so deserved it compared to the others. She disappeared. But I don't deny the problem is probably me. I'm too intolerant of the "rehab is in my past and/or in my future" look that many otherwise-good-looking escorts have. And I expect an escort to give me 30-40 minutes of better contact than any lap dancer would give PLUS the insert-tab-A-in-slot-B stuff.

rickdugan
09-18-2010, 12:36 PM
I was so ready to hit the thanks button. You can't have my spleen anymore. :'(

Go back and read more carefully and you'll see that her opinion that OTC is very widely available is somewhat contradictory to your view that only ugly girls do it.

And while I don't completely agree that it is quite so available, particularly in certain tougher regions, her point still has some strong validity IMHO, even if she was using it to vent at the silliness of some of us "chest thumpers." ::)

ilbbaicnl
09-18-2010, 12:39 PM
... No shit, strip clubs are full of desperate whores. Finding a girl willing to fuck you at your hotel for whatever some of money is not difficult. ...

BTW, you wouldn't have phone numbers, would you?

Smokeless
09-18-2010, 10:55 PM
Frankly I post a lot because I can't find anything better to do with myself. I can't jack off as often as I could when I was younger.

I guess it's time for you to get a life.

Or maybe you could volunteer some of your free time for some worthy cause.

[I was going to make the obvious suggestion, but I thought better of it.]

ilbbaicnl
09-19-2010, 12:13 AM
I guess it's time for you to get a life.

Or maybe you could volunteer some of your free time for some worthy cause.

[I was going to make the obvious suggestion, but I thought better of it.]

I spend 12 hours a month raising money for a foundation that is looking a cure for those poor afflicted souls who are still using the expression "get a life".

Kylea2
09-19-2010, 11:56 AM
^^^ Not cool.

I do hope you attitude improves. New members in the blue often take awhile to blend in. Just ask RickDugan... he really rubbed the pinkies the wrong way when he first joined. Now I think most of us jive pretty well with him. At any rate, a "hazing period" over on this side is pretty much to be expected.

FBR
09-19-2010, 01:59 PM
^ I liked your radio interview ;D

FBR

ilbbaicnl
09-19-2010, 02:44 PM
^^^ Not cool.

I do hope you attitude improves. New members in the blue often take awhile to blend in. Just ask RickDugan... he really rubbed the pinkies the wrong way when he first joined. Now I think most of us jive pretty well with him. At any rate, a "hazing period" over on this side is pretty much to be expected.

I'm one of those people who's not interested in blending in or fitting in. I write what I really think, I read what others think with an open mind, if they convince me, I change what I think. It's not my intent to insult, offend, disrespect or annoy anybody. If I unintentionally annoy anyone, the great thing is that on this site they can go into a menu and put me into their "ignored users" list. I don't think it's fair to put me in the same category as people who don't respect others. I am only "not cool" to those who are "not cool" to me first. I don't mind if people want to insult me in a spirit of fun, if they make some effort to be creative/original ("get a life" being a perfect counter-example). I don't mind in general if dancers are insulting and have some mean in them. A lot of people think that, if somebody's a dancer, it's OK to try and take a piece of them. I like the idea of those people drawing back a bloody stump.

Beautiful avatar, BTW.

Kylea2
09-19-2010, 03:22 PM
It's not my intent to insult, offend, disrespect or annoy anybody.

Really?


I spend 12 hours a month raising money for a foundation that is looking a cure for those poor afflicted souls who are still using the expression "get a life".

"An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind"




^ I liked your radio interview ;D

FBR

:) Thank you! I'm not sure if you listened to the one I did for Striptaculous awhile back or read the interview with YNot. If not, here they are:

YNot 1 of 2 (http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=news_article&sid=51257)
YNot 2 of 2 (http://www.ynot.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=news_article&sid=51297)

Striptaculous 1 of 2 (http://striptaculous.com/2009/12/091-kylea-killeen-part-1/)
Striptaculous 2 of 2 (http://striptaculous.com/2010/01/093-kylea-killeen-part-2/)

Apparently I like to talk a lot... every time I do an interview it seems like it gets broken up into multiple parts!

ilbbaicnl
09-19-2010, 04:54 PM
Really?

"An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind"


Yes, to clarify, I'll return it when it's given to me, maybe with a little interest.

I'm already going to go blind from staring at strippers and porn. You'll have to think of a different reason for me to let everyone shit on me.

Kylea2
09-19-2010, 05:25 PM
^^^ Again, you came on here & seemed to kick up dust right away. People were telling you to calm down. When you do so then they will be nice to you. Its pretty simple.

ilbbaicnl
09-19-2010, 07:46 PM
^^^ Again, you came on here & seemed to kick up dust right away. People were telling you to calm down. When you do so then they will be nice to you. Its pretty simple.

Your mistaken premise is that I care if people are nice to me. If anybody feels like I'm dissing them, I'll take their specific complaints very seriously, I'm not interested in dissing people. I don't owe anybody anything more than due respect. If they want more than that to be "nice" to me, they're not going to be nice to me.

rickdugan
09-20-2010, 03:33 AM
^^^ Not cool.

I do hope you attitude improves. New members in the blue often take awhile to blend in. Just ask RickDugan... he really rubbed the pinkies the wrong way when he first joined. Now I think most of us jive pretty well with him. At any rate, a "hazing period" over on this side is pretty much to be expected.


I'm one of those people who's not interested in blending in or fitting in. I write what I really think, I read what others think with an open mind, if they convince me, I change what I think. It's not my intent to insult, offend, disrespect or annoy anybody. If I unintentionally annoy anyone, the great thing is that on this site they can go into a menu and put me into their "ignored users" list...

LOL. I never thought I'd be the poster boy for fitting in. Not really sure I changed much except that I largely stopped posting in pink, particularly when I am drunk ;) I will also admit, however, that I toned it down a little when I learned the lay of the land and realized that I might not be the only blue in here with some stories to share, but there it is.

I have no issue with ilb swinging back and I generally won't take shit either, but some of his comments, posted as if they are hard fact, are dubious at best. Posed in the form of a question or, as yoda stated, with a "IMO" or "IMHO" qualifier, some of these posts might earn less friction.

Just my :twocents:

Redwolf
09-20-2010, 07:03 AM
+1

When someone is speaking from one's limited experience, it is perhaps more conducive of conversation to use "I believe" or "In my experience" or the ever-popular IMO, especially when one's limited experience runs counter to the experiences of numerous other people that one has just joined in conversation.

ilbbaicnl
09-20-2010, 08:11 PM
+1

When someone is speaking from one's limited experience, it is perhaps more conducive of conversation to use "I believe" or "In my experience" or the ever-popular IMO, especially when one's limited experience runs counter to the experiences of numerous other people that one has just joined in conversation.

We all speak from our own limited experience, so reaptedly saying so is redundant.

So you prefer conversations where everyone is saying more or less the same thing? You sound like an exciting guy.

rickdugan
09-21-2010, 04:56 AM
We all speak from our own limited experience, so reaptedly saying so is redundant.

Sure we do, but if your posts are serious then your experiences are far more limited than those of many on here.

But I haven't really figured out if you actually believe the nonsense you are posting or if this is all just a series of semi-clever baits, but I will admit that some of your posts have been entertaining. ;)

KS_Stevia
09-21-2010, 11:46 AM
Can we get back to talking about bangin cheap whores in seedy motels now? ;)