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4everresolutions
10-23-2010, 02:48 PM
Kayla - I'm browsing through your website, and I have to say; it's so tasteful! I've been reading this thread and wondering how you would go about making a body rub look classy and high end...but your website does the trick. The pictures, the layout - it's all so relaxing and soothing. I want a body rub now!

KaylaM
10-23-2010, 02:51 PM
Kayla - I'm browsing through your website, and I have to say; it's so tasteful! I've been reading this thread and wondering how you would go about making a body rub look classy and high end...but your website does the trick. The pictures, the layout - it's all so relaxing and soothing. I want a body rub now!

LMAO!

Thank you. I tried! :-)

Billabong
10-23-2010, 03:48 PM
Good information, thank you :) This is definitely something to consider. Do you think there's much of a market for bbws doing fbsm?

KaylaM
10-23-2010, 03:54 PM
Good information, thank you :) This is definitely something to consider. Do you think there's much of a market for bbws doing fbsm?

Yup... all types of women in this industry. If bbws can be escorts why can't they be fbsm providers? :) Go for it!

Billabong
10-23-2010, 04:15 PM
Thanks. Will def try this out when I get my cam projects situated :)

SALLY101
10-24-2010, 08:06 AM
i agree KAYLA is COOL ;)

So helpful , sweet and very down to earth

London Lenoir
10-29-2010, 12:02 PM
Dear Ms. Kayla,

It has come to my attention that you have a Ph. D in Hustling & Business Management. That being the case, do you have any advise for someone who's never been a FBSM provider before and may have to go the independent route right from the start?

I'd love to work at a parlor for about a month or two and then go independent, but every "for hire" or "we have XYZ girls" add I've seen online either leaves AA/Black off the menu or expressly states Asian & White Only. And while I still intend on going to at least 10 places to see if I can get hired, I'd just like to know what you think I should do if I strike out.

If it Helps: According to one site there are about 30 parlors in the area and the Backpage bodyrub section seems to be alive and kickin'. Also, the AA/Black girls who I see listed on Craigslist and Backpages are mostly ghetto fab with one or two cute college/girl next door types thrown in for good measure.

Patiently awaiting your infinite wisdom,

Discouraged in Dallas

KaylaM
10-30-2010, 07:05 AM
Dear Ms. Kayla,

It has come to my attention that you have a Ph. D in Hustling & Business Management. That being the case, do you have any advise for someone who's given a massage before but has only "popped champagne" once, and may have to go the independent route right from the start?



I'd love to work at a parlor for about a month or two and then go independent, but every "for hire" or "we have XYZ girls" add I've seen online either leaves AA/Black off the menu or expressly states Asian & White Only. And while I still intend on going to at least 10 places to see if I can get hired, I'd just like to know what you think I should do if I strike out.


Yes the best advice I can give you is to learn how to screen your calls. It is most important. 2.) Contact the sheriff's department in your area and ask what is legal. Is giving "sensual rubs" in your area legal? DO remember that you are not a massage therapist so NEVER use the word "massage" on your ads. It is amazing to me how many girls get busted because of the words they used on their ads.
3.) On the phone, If you decide to list your number, Always be VAGUE about what you do. NEVER answer questions like is this fs? is this full body? do you do the rub naked? and Do you do prostate massage? If they ask tell them you can not discuss that over the phone.. if they insist that you answer say NO!

On working for the parlor: Don't bother. Save yourself time and drama. Just because they're not looking for black girls doesn't mean you cannot do it on your own and make bank! Men like variety and that's a fact. This also doesn't mean that you should sell yourself short when deciding what to charge. Be reasonable not CHEAP!


If it Helps: According to one site there are about 30 parlors in the area and the Backpage bodyrub section seems to be alive and kickin'. Also, the AA/Black girls who I see listed on Craigslist and Backpages are mostly ghetto fab with one or two cute college/girl next door types thrown in for good measure.

Patiently awaiting your infinite wisdom,

Discouraged in Dalla

Ahh You're in Dallas.. no wonder! I've haven't heard good things from my friends there that do this but you can always give it a shot. Yes a lot of black girls are ghetto fab on backpage so it's up to you to standout and be the breath of fresh air. I hope this helps! xoxo

naughtia
10-30-2010, 10:21 AM
Yes the best advice I can give you is to learn how to screen your calls. It is most important. 2.) Contact the sheriff's department in your area and ask what is legal. Is giving "sensual rubs" in your area legal? DO remember that you are not a massage therapist so NEVER use the word "massage" on your ads. It is amazing to me how many girls get busted because of the words they used on their ads.
3.) On the phone, If you decide to list your number, Always be VAGUE about what you do. NEVER answer questions like is this fs? is this full body? do you do the rub naked? and Do you do prostate massage? If they ask tell them you can not discuss that over the phone.. if they insist that you answer say NO!

On working for the parlor: Don't bother. Save yourself time and drama. Just because they're not looking for black girls doesn't mean you cannot do it on your own and make bank! Men like variety and that's a fact. This also doesn't mean that you should sell yourself short when deciding what to charge. Be reasonable not CHEAP!



Ahh You're in Dallas.. no wonder! I've haven't heard good things from my friends there that do this but you can always give it a shot. Yes a lot of black girls are ghetto fab on backpage so it's up to you to standout and be the breath of fresh air. I hope this helps! xoxo

I'm one of those friends Kayla is referring to. :)

Massage without a license or body rubs/sensual rubs, are most definitely illegal in Dallas. I believe the fine is a couple grand if caught. I contemplated doing it here but a couple things stopped me: 1-there have been a lot of busts on indies and studios all over town and 2-majority of providers do things that I'm uncomfortable with like body to body (sometimes referred to as B2B)/body slides and mutual touching. That's not to say I couldn't offer something much different, but unfortunately here it's kind of expected and I'd have to lower my rates. So I definitely couldn't get away with the techniques I used in Atlanta.

All in all, it's still lucrative if done correctly, but if you decide to do it know the risks and screen, screen, SCREEN your clients!

M3wlove
10-30-2010, 05:13 PM
since I'm curious about doing it for a few months, I don't want to set up a website..yet, anyway. i found what seems like a great site with really good rates. just sent in a form and left a voicemail. on their site it says you have to be at least 5'4 and I'm about 5'2 though. :crosses fingers:

KaylaM
10-31-2010, 05:03 AM
I'm one of those friends Kayla is referring to. :)

Massage without a license or body rubs/sensual rubs, are most definitely illegal in Dallas. I believe the fine is a couple grand if caught. I contemplated doing it here but a couple things stopped me: 1-there have been a lot of busts on indies and studios all over town and 2-majority of providers do things that I'm uncomfortable with like body to body (sometimes referred to as B2B)/body slides and mutual touching. That's not to say I couldn't offer something much different, but unfortunately here it's kind of expected and I'd have to lower my rates. So I definitely couldn't get away with the techniques I used in Atlanta.

All in all, it's still lucrative if done correctly, but if you decide to do it know the risks and screen, screen, SCREEN your clients!

Well said love!

********************


Guess what?? I'm moving to Atlanta within the next 3 weeks!!! I'm here on vacay now and I can't wait to move here! I've already started placing ads to see what type of response I'll get and so far so good! I'm excited!!!

naughtia
10-31-2010, 05:32 AM
Well said love!

********************


Guess what?? I'm moving to Atlanta within the next 3 weeks!!! I'm here on vacay now and I can't wait to move here! I've already started placing ads to see what type of response I'll get and so far so good! I'm excited!!!

Yay! Why'd you have to move after I left though? >:(

Oh well, contact me if you need any help navigating the city. I lived there for more than a decade so I know the city like the back of my hand.

KaylaM
10-31-2010, 05:38 AM
Yay! Why'd you have to move after I left though? >:(

Oh well, contact me if you need any help navigating the city. I lived there for more than a decade so I know the city like the back of my hand.

Haha! I didn't know babe! I'm flying back to Charlotte at 1pm and gonna start packing! So I should be settled in my new place within the next 2-3 weeks.

I'll need help navigating this city for sure! I loooooooooove it here :-) Gonna pm ya!

London Lenoir
10-31-2010, 08:50 AM
Thanks so much for the reply Kayla... I only wanted to start at a parlor so I could get some experience before I started making a name for myself but oh well. Since Indie is the way I ultimately want to go, I guess I'll just set up shop and see what happens.


I'm one of those friends Kayla is referring to. :)

Massage without a license or body rubs/sensual rubs, are most definitely illegal in Dallas. I believe the fine is a couple grand if caught. I contemplated doing it here but a couple things stopped me: 1-there have been a lot of busts on indies and studios all over town and 2-majority of providers do things that I'm uncomfortable with like body to body (sometimes referred to as B2B)/body slides and mutual touching. That's not to say I couldn't offer something much different, but unfortunately here it's kind of expected and I'd have to lower my rates. So I definitely couldn't get away with the techniques I used in Atlanta.

All in all, it's still lucrative if done correctly, but if you decide to do it know the risks and screen, screen, SCREEN your clients!

1) :( So you're saying you've called the Sheriff's Dept. and been told offering body rubs/sensual rubs is a definite no-go?

2) Are you speaking from experience here, or are you relaying what you've been told by reliable sources?

2b) If speaking from experience, is the market really that bad for someone who's not willing to do what you've mentioned above? And what rates do you think would be realistic for someone who fits in that category?

3) So there's still hope for providers in Dallas? How about for someone who doesn't plan on doing the most aka keeping it Kosher/Atlanta style?

3b) If you don't mind sharing, could you pm a bit of info about your Atlanta Techniques? I've resigned myself to going indie from the start, so any tips & tricks you're willing to give will be greatly appreciated.



}:D Happy Halloween Everyone }:D

naughtia
10-31-2010, 10:29 AM
1) :( So you're saying you've called the Sheriff's Dept. and been told offering body rubs/sensual rubs is a definite no-go?

2) Are you speaking from experience here, or are you relaying what you've been told by reliable sources?

2b) If speaking from experience, is the market really that bad for someone who's not willing to do what you've mentioned above? And what rates do you think would be realistic for someone who fits in that category?

3) So there's still hope for providers in Dallas? How about for someone who doesn't plan on doing the most aka keeping it Kosher/Atlanta style?

3b) If you don't mind sharing, could you pm a bit of info about your Atlanta Techniques? I've resigned myself to going indie from the start, so any tips & tricks you're willing to give will be greatly appreciated.



}:D Happy Halloween Everyone }:D

1. Didn't call the sheriff's department, didn't have to. It is illegal in just about every state to massage without a license even if you nickname it "body rub", "sensual rub", whatever. Some states are more lax than others on enforcement though. Even if you're a licensed therapist doing "happy endings" you can still receive a fine for "masturbation for hire." If you don't believe me, Google "illegal massage business Dallas" or "massage parlors Dallas" and read up all the arrests this past year.

2. Going by what I've been told by local providers directly and by reading all the provider ads.

2a. You'll have to test the market to see how you'll do - YMMV (your mileage may vary!)

3. Please see the above.

3b. Sure thing. I'll send you a PM.

BustyAmeera
10-31-2010, 10:45 AM
Good information, thank you :) This is definitely something to consider. Do you think there's much of a market for bbws doing fbsm?

I'm bbw, and did body rubs as well as escorting and simply dating (a few) There is a huge market for guys who love us thicker more voluptuous ladies. They will ONLY look for bbw women, and will love to be in your company. In fact a lot of them ONLY wanted a massage even though I was offering full escort services, and still paid the regular rate just to get a massage and a little conversation. Escorting is not for me, but I must say I did like th guys who wanted the body rubs only. They were usually business men who just wanted to relax at the end of the day.

BustyAmeera
10-31-2010, 10:48 AM
1. Didn't call the sheriff's department, didn't have to. It is illegal in just about every state to massage without a license even if you nickname it "body rub", "sensual rub", whatever. Some states are more lax than others on enforcement though. Even if you're a licensed therapist doing "happy endings" you can still receive a fine for "masturbation for hire." If you don't believe me, Google "illegal massage business Dallas" or "massage parlors Dallas" and read up all the arrests this past year.

2. Going by what I've been told by local providers directly and by reading all the provider ads.

2a. You'll have to test the market to see how you'll do - YMMV (your mileage may vary!)

3. Please see the above.

3b. Sure thing. I'll send you a PM.

She's right. As far a s I know, you CAN get in trouble for offering a massage without a license. Technically you are suppose to have a license to offer this, BUT it is not hard to get one and fairly cheap. If you do this without a license (I did) You will want to be careful. I would recommend getting a license to avoid the drama.

BustyAmeera
10-31-2010, 10:51 AM
Well said love!

********************


Guess what?? I'm moving to Atlanta within the next 3 weeks!!! I'm here on vacay now and I can't wait to move here! I've already started placing ads to see what type of response I'll get and so far so good! I'm excited!!!

Welcome to Atlanta!! I love this city. I know you will love it too

naughtia
10-31-2010, 11:03 AM
She's right. As far a s I know, you CAN get in trouble for offering a massage without a license. Technically you are suppose to have a license to offer this, BUT it is not hard to get one and fairly cheap. If you do this without a license (I did) You will want to be careful. I would recommend getting a license to avoid the drama.

If I remember correctly, Atlanta schools were several months to complete. I never went that route because I was already in college working towards a bachelor's.

I did meet a couple girls that were licensed who did this so they could get the money together to open up a legitimate spa, though.

BustyAmeera
10-31-2010, 11:27 AM
Yes your right. It does not take very much time to go through school and get your license. I just never went that route because I knew I wouldn't be doing that long term. I really reccomend people get their license if that's what they want to do. The police is no joke, and who needs that getting arrested drama?

Just wanted to add that even if this is something you don't want to do long term, you should still get a license. Don't give those cops a reason to get you!

I was never arrested but how embarrassing would that be? Don't give them a reason to fuck with you!

naughtia
10-31-2010, 11:54 AM
Yes your right. It does not take very much time to go through school and get your license. I just never went that route because I knew I wouldn't be doing that long term. I really reccomend people get their license if that's what they want to do. The police is no joke, and who needs that getting arrested drama?

Just wanted to add that even if this is something you don't want to do long term, you should still get a license. Don't give those cops a reason to get you!

I was never arrested but how embarrassing would that be? Don't give them a reason to fuck with you!

Most definitely! I have a funny/weird story to share.

While I've dabbled in the adult industry I've always kept a vanilla job or hustle on the side. While working part time as a FBSM provider and attending school I decided to accept a PT position at a consulting firm. One of my responsibilities was to assist clients in obtaining liquor licenses for bars and clubs. That meant frequent trips to the Licensing and Permit Bureau of the Atlanta PD.

My job was twofold - bring in the clients to get background checks and fingerprinted and later submit the application to the department. That meant sitting down with detectives and going over a very lengthy application page by page.

One day I was reading the local paper and found an article on a escort arrest. A rep from the Atlanta PD was quoted in the article. Ironically enough, it was the same sergeant who I met with to review liquor license applications! That sergeant along with all the other detectives I met were also in charge of enforcing anti prostitution laws in the City of Atlanta. I sat in each one of their offices at some point and they knew me by name.

Well needless to say, I quit doing body rubs shortly after. My incall was way out of the Atlanta PD's jurisdiction and they had no idea what I did on the side, but it scared me enough to retire. I took it as a sign to get out.

I really miss the money, but these days I want to earn a living without looking over my shoulder all the time. Having said that, I don't blame other ladies for getting in the business. It is very lucrative, but it's important to educate yourself on all aspects of the business, including the legalities.

BustyAmeera
10-31-2010, 11:59 AM
"I really miss the money, but these days I want to earn a living without looking over my shoulder all the time. Having said that, I don't blame other ladies for getting in the business. It is very lucrative, but it's important to educate yourself on all aspects of the business, including the legalities."

You sound like me. I got out mainly because I was scared and felt it was not worth my time, or freedom. I also did find it very lucrative, and made a lot of money, lived in buckhead at the time, and did very well. Eventually it just was not for me. If your going to do it, make sure you cover all your bases, and avoid the law!

naughtia
10-31-2010, 12:28 PM
You sound like me. I got out mainly because I was scared and felt it was not worth my time, or freedom. I also did find it very lucrative, and made a lot of money, lived in buckhead at the time, and did very well. Eventually it just was not for me. If your going to do it, make sure you cover all your bases, and avoid the law!

Sometimes I have to avoid these threads because I start thinking of all that money I used to make! (Damn you Kayla! :D) The temptation is always there. It seems that people who know my past are always trying to get me to go half with them on an agency, book their calls, etc. I know so many aspects of the industry like the back of my hand so it would be so easy to jump in at any time. I had a weak moment and applied to a high profile agency recently as a booker but ended up turning it down when they called to offer me the job.

I made myself a promise that anything I do in the adult industry from this point forward must be on the up and up, period.

neliana
10-31-2010, 12:52 PM
Hey I get where you're coming from ^^ I used to escort, but in addition to just not being very good at it, the stress from worrying about the law was too much for me. I had trouble with the law awhile back, and after that I also promised myself it was only legal adult work from then on.

But I totally know what you mean about temptation...tons of my friends are escorts. And reading this thread is soo tempting! I guess I'll just have to live vicariously through posters like KaylaM ;) Lol

BustyAmeera
10-31-2010, 03:13 PM
Hey I get where you're coming from ^^ I used to escort, but in addition to just not being very good at it, the stress from worrying about the law was too much for me. I had trouble with the law awhile back, and after that I also promised myself it was only legal adult work from then on.

But I totally know what you mean about temptation...tons of my friends are escorts. And reading this thread is soo tempting! I guess I'll just have to live vicariously through posters like KaylaM ;) Lol

Yes it was very stressful for me too. I thought everyone was a cop lol. The money is good and fast, but not for me anymore. It takes me longer to make my money now, but I am more at peace

KaylaM
10-31-2010, 03:16 PM
Sometimes I have to avoid these threads because I start thinking of all that money I used to make! (Damn you Kayla! :D) The temptation is always there. It seems that people who know my past are always trying to get me to go half with them on an agency, book their calls, etc. I know so many aspects of the industry like the back of my hand so it would be so easy to jump in at any time. I had a weak moment and applied to a high profile agency recently as a booker but ended up turning it down when they called to offer me the job.

I made myself a promise that anything I do in the adult industry from this point forward must be on the up and up, period.

Hahaha Sowwy love!





Hey I get where you're coming from ^^ I used to escort, but in addition to just not being very good at it, the stress from worrying about the law was too much for me. I had trouble with the law awhile back, and after that I also promised myself it was only legal adult work from then on.

But I totally know what you mean about temptation...tons of my friends are escorts. And reading this thread is soo tempting! I guess I'll just have to live vicariously through posters like KaylaM ;) Lol

What do you mean by "not being very good at it" ?/:O

Yeah only the smart and strong at heart can survive this business. I've never been in trouble with the law. I came close once but I pretty much talked my way out of it. Since then I screen the heck out of my clients .. Some guys have a problem with my rigorous screening process others don't .. I don't care my safety comes first!

Thanks to Naughtia, My bodyrub business has found overnight success. I don't plan on quitting anytime soon but I DO plan on limiting how much I work.

HustletteDiva
10-31-2010, 04:51 PM
BustyAmeera and Naughtia I fee like you two ladies do. I use to escort too but not so much now I actually did get arrested, for the first time in my life, and it was nothing I would want to re-live over again. I was scared, nervous, and wanted to cry.LOL But I still had to keep my composer and cool and navigate the situation as best as I can...But hey live and learn.

I got me a good ass lawyer and plus I had looked up legalities on escorting/prostitution before hand so I was familiar with procedures and other things. But it was still nothing like actually being in the situation. But I do not have any thing on my record and I can get the arrest expunged after a year so it will not show up on my background check or nothing.....except the certain "officials" will still know. *sucks*




However, if that was the case that I had a record from it, I take it like a woman, I knew what I was getting into too, so. Granted you can be in the business and never get caught but you can be smart as hell, and street savvy and still get caught up for something very lame, like in my case.LOL And you can still can get caught-up if they want you. That is why I made sure I knew the ins and outs as well as pros and cons of it....before getting in....






I was still working a regular/ vanilla gig PRN and was still attending college all while I was escorting....but I had a lot of fun....Man, I love the money and I miss it like hell. That money can pay off all financial aid, help for start up cost for a business, plus more.....hahahaha



I love reading Kayla threads on escorting and reliving the fun of it all......I know major Lame....I read all the escort blogs for their adventures very entertaining.....


I am not out escorting....I am just trying to get my plan together. and with school, working, and other business endeavors I want to be thorough this time around......

natyempress
11-01-2010, 12:20 AM
Does anyone know about being a fbsm provider while working in canda?

neliana
11-03-2010, 08:25 AM
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What do you mean by "not being very good at it" ?/:O

I meant that I wasn't that great at dealing with the clients, or providing the whole "girlfriend experience". It was always obvious that I didn't want to be there and I had trouble getting repeat clients or good reviews as a result.

KaylaM
11-03-2010, 11:34 AM
[quote=KaylaM;2003754]





What do you mean by "not being very good at it" ?/:O

I meant that I wasn't that great at dealing with the clients, or providing the whole "girlfriend experience". It was always obvious that I didn't want to be there and I had trouble getting repeat clients or good reviews as a result.

Oh yeah... that just means it wasn't for you. Maybe FBSM could work for you... having sex for money is not for everyone. ya know?

When you're not getting good reviews or repeat clients... clear sign.

London Lenoir
11-04-2010, 12:47 PM
KaylaM, if it wouldn't be too much trouble, I'm also curious about your website and would love a link to it. :)

Me too, por favor.

0101011
11-05-2010, 11:23 AM
Too much drama on the board and that's not what I signed up for. Tired of reading cam stuff.. so let's talk about something different. This is for daredevils only and as you all know I am a big time daredevil. I just play smart and safe ;)

I worked as a massage girl before I gave birth and it was fun fun fun. The money was great until the house lady decided to move to miami. I've played with the idea but decided to become an escort instead (I'm too greedy). This is for those looking to get into the FBSM business. Read on....

What is an FBSM provider: An FBSM provider performs a senual massage with a happy ending. Basically a massage with a handjob at the end. A sensual massage provider can make $1500 and up a week EASILY
depending on how many men she chooses to see.

What you'll need

Massage Oil
Massage bed
Incall (Hotel or your own home (nor recommended)
Prepaid phone (alternative:Google voice number FREE)
Money to buy ads (no more than $150 a month) $150 a month is even too much
money for FBSM advertising.

What to charge : When I worked as an FBSM provider I worked in a parlor and the rates were
$150 for 30 minutes and $200 for the hour. Strictly NO sex! What you charge is up to you. Research your market and see what other are charging. Wanna know what others are charging .

You might be thinking: Do men really pay for this stuff? YES they do! Google "FBSM" and see all you'll come up with. There are many men that aren't looking for "sex". They last thing they will do is hire an escort so what do they do? Settle for a handjob. They really view having sex with anotherwoman besides their wife as CHEATING.

Is this illegal? Giving a "Bodyrub" for "donations" isn't illegal. Givinga"massage" for pay IS. What's even more ILLEGAL is the handjob. So you'd have to be smart and tactful in your advertising. If you are one of those people that are scared to get into the escorting business because you think you'll get arrested then THIS IS NOT THE JOB FOR YOU. Just like an escort screens.. FBSM providers screen to weed out LE and timewasters. Yes money is there but you have to be careful just like an escort is. Get it?


What now?

1.) STOP EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING .. YOU KNOW THE BASICS RIGHT?

Massage oil... massage bed... etc...

Now..

Learn how to screen ... there is a great article here>>>

Study this.

2.) Research body rub rates in your area. are they $200 an hour? if so brand yourself VIP and charge $250 an hour.
I do this now as an escort. I charge more than any black provider in the area and I'm constantly getting date requests. IT WORKS!
Remember men want what they cannot have!

3.) Invest in some professional pictures. Get on model mayhem and
find a provider that will work with you on Tfcd basis. Tell him you want it for your online portfolio or something. You do not have to
tell them what it is for. Before hand ask him if it is ok to use them online. TF means FREE. You are trading your time for prints or CDs.

4.Start building your website. I use blogger for my escort site it's only $10 a year. Do NOT use escortsite.com.
they are soooo tacky and attract undesirable clients.

5.) Did you get your free google number? so you didn't. You can get it here


6.) Start advertising. Advertising: Backpage, eros, Open adult directory

7.) Join social networks: Facebook, twitter, myspace and be active!

8.) Learn how to screen... go back to your notes.. whatever you wrote.. Try it out on a friend (i mean the screening LOL)
If you master anything Master this and you will be on your way.

9.) When doing incalls... use priceline. You can do a 3 1/2 star.. it's same as 4 star on there. Do not do anything lower. You want to
be in a place that attract a lot of businessmen where the front desk isn't so worried about what you're doing. When doing hotel incalls you will
need a massage table so DO NOT bring it there please! You will only need a massage table if you're working in a vacation rental/apartment/house.

10.) Remember you are an FBSM provider not a massage girl. Do NOT put that you are doing massages on your ad because you are not licenced and if you are... well bravo ;) if you aren't DO NOT TRY IT! You do sensual body rubs.. sensual touch .. whatever NOT massages! You're also not there to fuck them. You're there to give them a handjob. Yes they can watch porn.
NO they canNOT touch you and if they do.. charge $50 extra or whatever.

11.) Save as much as you can. Have fun!

xoxo,

Kayla M



You should write a book! I was wondering if you have a aim or yahoo screen name and if you would let me pick your brain?

KaylaM
11-05-2010, 11:32 AM
You should write a book! I was wondering if you have a aim or yahoo screen name and if you would let me pick your brain?

Yes Ma'am..

Camwithkayla is my yahoo id.

I love having my brain picked! Pick away! :-)

KaylaM
11-05-2010, 11:38 AM
Ladies....I can share my site on via pm ...

$$WINTER$$
11-05-2010, 01:46 PM
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KaylaM
11-05-2010, 01:56 PM
Hi Kayla I don't know if you remember me we chatted via PM awhile back regarding escorting. I ended up sticking to dancing and have since moved to CO where its...:-\bleh to say the least. Anyway this post was like a god send seriously this sounds right up my alley.

My question for you is where do you think would be a good place to actually do the massages ugh i mean body rubs lol:-X? Having them come to my home is just not an option with my two year old no way and 4star hotels seems like it would get very,very expensive. Do you think actually renting a studio space/apartment would be worth it? Also do you think there is a demand for this type of service in any city? Thanks in advance

Yes boo I remember you!

Well I'll be VERY honest with you... Using your home is not a bad idea. If you have a 2/3 bedroom? Y not? Honestly? I just started using my home again I just tell my customers that I don't live here. I even go as far as saying another girl that works with me lives here and I'm just renting "this room". I have never had a problem.

Mind you I also have a 2 year old (I take her to her nanny or the sitter while I work)

Another thing you can do is rent a room with another provider. Go on look under massage and contact massage providers and ask if you can double with them. I would have done this but I'm too much of an independent to do such. However It is not a bad idea.

Your avi says you're in Phoneix. Well Yes there is demand for this business (sensual massage) in Phoenix! I'm sure of it! I have lots of escort/fbsm friends there too :-)

KaylaM
11-05-2010, 02:01 PM
and Yes I was once against one using their own home until I was educated about how to go about it and I think it is the smartest thing one can do especially if you have an extra room!

$$WINTER$$
11-05-2010, 02:14 PM
Ps. I took a peek at your escort site...are you really retiring? Dang body rub buisness must be good :)

sunshine16
11-05-2010, 09:12 PM
Thanks for the info Kayla! How do you go about screening a provider you want to double with? Or can check her reviews somewhere? I just want to make sure I'm getting involved with someone reliable..which, yes, unfortunately only is yourself, but- I think to start it's a good idea like you said? Or you think indy is the way to go from the start? Sorry for all the newb questions :)

SALLY101
11-10-2010, 02:20 AM
How do i sign up on ter ?? Is it 20 bucks for vip??

Im trying to get some massage reviews

thanks :)

KaylaM
11-10-2010, 06:41 AM
How do i sign up on ter ?? Is it 20 bucks for vip??

Im trying to get some massage reviews

thanks :)

Nope. I have reviews on TER and I don't even have a TER VIP membership. That membership is for the guys. Ask your clients to review on there. that's all.

sunshine16
11-10-2010, 09:13 AM
How would I just look up the guy reviews on ter ? Someone said date check isnt good? Why does it say kayla banned :(

GrlWithTheMost
11-23-2010, 12:58 AM
Yea.. Has anyone spoken to her??? Why is she banned???

natyempress
11-23-2010, 11:57 PM
Man I hope she's not banned, she gave the best advice.

London Lenoir
11-24-2010, 04:16 PM
^^^ So true. If she is banned, she did leave her YIM screen name so you can always try and reach her that way.

MsOfficer
11-27-2010, 04:08 AM
It's Camwithkayla on yahoo and her msn has her real name in it .. wouldn't post that here :/

SALLY101
12-23-2010, 07:01 PM
Hi ladies!!
Where are all my bodyrub queens at??

How is the business treating you? For me, so far so good
I have a question, is anyone having success with "social networks" ie twitter, facebook, myspace for advertisement??
I have a blog and advertise already and want to take it to the next level :)

MelissaBlade
05-25-2011, 08:58 PM
I'm an indy FBSM girl who works out of my home. My guys where I live (Northern CO) are so paranoid that as soon as I try to screen them, they freak and never call back.

Exactly how do girls screen for FBSM? I stop screening and have been making quite a bit but every once in a while I get worried about safety. Melissa

Melena_Melendez
05-25-2011, 09:21 PM
Okay, every city is different, in smaller cities money would be better, but in LA forget about it,

SexxySadie
05-25-2011, 09:26 PM
I stop screening and have been making quite a bit but every once in a while I get worried about safety. Melissa

What?? Never stop screening!! Also why are you running it out of your real house? Thats just asking for psychos and stalkers to come knockin' You dont know these men so why should you give them so much trust knowing your real address when they cant even trust you to screen them?