View Full Version : How often do you rip off customers and does it bother you to do it?
KS_Stevia
10-03-2010, 11:08 AM
My ex told me on many occasions that they would order champagne & dump it out while the guy would be ordering more & of course getting more drunk..lol..or fake shots of juice.
I wouldn't say this is a total ROB. The guys that want you to drink want you to get drunk so they can take advantage oh higher contact. Not getting drunk is self-preservation. It prevents the dancer from being ripped off or assaulted by custies. It keeps her professional in the eyes of her management at work. She's less likely to get drunk and misbehave, start crying, or get into a high in the dressing room. Not to mention, constantly drinking every night for years is terrible for the health and overall appearance of the face and body.
Sure its not ethical, but if a custy can't understand that the dancer sees 10-20 guys like him a night, and would be puking all over herself if she took drinks with each and every one. So, if custy wants a drinking buddy, he's going to get one, but she may not actually be "drinking."
I dont really call this a rip off. But whenever I get guy into the dancing section and I always ask "Do you want me to start this song or next?" If they say this song and its half way through thats still counted as 20.
See, I don't like this approach. I was always about the "do you want me to start on this song" but I would go well into the next one and give them approximately a full dance. This saves time sitting around waiting for the song to start. But a lot of girls took advantage of that to give a mini ROB. So custies became wary of it.
In regards to myself; let's just say I've been ripped off WAY WAY WAY WAY more times than I've purposefully forgotten to give him back that extra $20 he handed me. So, no guilt or remorse here.
zippy62
10-03-2010, 12:22 PM
First post and I hope I don't get slammed for it. I noted several dancers saying that, since they are independent contractors, they can charge/do what they want.
The real reason that most dancers are independent contractors has to do with how payroll (and taxes/FICA/etc.) works.
The key part of "independent contractor" that these dancers are missing is that they are *contractors*. They have made an agreement to provide services with certain parameters and this is a legal contract (written OR oral). If that agreement included charging X dollars per service then you are not legally entitled to charge more. If the club allows you to set your own prices then of course you can, but it has nothing to do with your independent contractor status.
All that said, I realize that some will negotiate their own prices regardless of club policy and as long as they are up front with the customer I have no problem with that. I usually find the club management to be the most negative aspect of clubs - so screw'em. I am only bringing this up since it seems a few dancers believe their contractor status gives them the right to do anything they want. Your legal right to violate a club policy may actually be less than for an employee, An independent contractor may have legal culpability for violating their contract where an employee could only be fired. I realize that clubs are highly unlikely to take dancers to court for this but I am just pointing out how the law works regarding independent contractors.
charlie61
10-03-2010, 01:58 PM
^ No reason for you to get slammed for that. :)
Though I will mention that customers are also under contract during dances, via club/personal rules, so if these rules are broken, than the contract may be broken at the contractor's discretion.
Perry
10-03-2010, 02:53 PM
I did know one dancer who would dig in the custy's pocket and pretend to be teasing, but really she was yanking everything out of his pockets to stuff down the couch and retreive later. She also stole a few things from the locker room from other dancers sometimes.
Another would tell managers she was doing two half hour VIP for two guys, and collect the money from both guys. Then she would do a full hour for only one guy to fuck the club from taking a cut, and the other guy of getting a dance. If he ever called her out on it, she would tell the managers she danced for the ripped off dude and he was just trying to get free action.
So, yeah... there are some ROBs, but anything that's petty cash lost due to absent minded-ness, the ass-hole tax or genuine misconception is nothing to compare to real ROBs.
One sad story. A dancer was waiting for the secound song to start and talking to her customer. She mentioned she needed new shoes, and made small talk. Then she did a few dances for him and he said, "Thanks! Here's a tip for your shoes!" and gave her $100. She squeed and hugged him, and ran to the boutique attached to the club and bought a new pair of her favorite brand of heels. After the customer sat back down, and went to tip someone on stage a few minutes later (time does fly fast in a strip club!) he realized he was $100 short. He had meant to give her a $10. He felt horrible for it, but had to ask for the money back. Which was spent. So management had to get involved and make her return the shoes, and the money. He felt like an ass and she was crying the locker room. Everyone lost.
Who really screwed who?
Loganx2000
10-03-2010, 04:36 PM
The guy screwed the dancer over. Rule number 1 is you never bring more money into the club than you intend to spend. He planned to spend that $100. He ended up accidently blowing his wad early. At most if she wanted to rectify his mistake, she could have done a few more dances for him. But she doesn't have to, it was his mistake and he should be the one to pay for it.
KS_Stevia
10-03-2010, 05:33 PM
Wow, what a dick! I guess because stripper shoes are plastic, guys think they are cheap or something?
I did't go back and read the previous posts but I can't imagine anyone worrying about $100. If it was $1,000 I would get that.
FBR
charlie61
10-03-2010, 06:07 PM
^$100 is a lot of money!! I respect money, no matter how much of it I have. $100 is still $100.
Though it was his mistake, and he shouldn't have made her return the shoes 'n all that. But I can understand why he was upset.
ravenblack
10-04-2010, 11:20 AM
i have b4 but i dont make a habit of it only if the guy was rude as fuck of grabby and i just do it as my tip for putting up with there rude ass lol
pixierocksonthepole
10-08-2010, 07:06 PM
I rarely would ever rip a customer off unless they really really pissed me off. Simply by grabbing in a full nude no contact club. Being bossy in a very bad manner. Things like that.
Hopper
10-09-2010, 09:29 AM
Just another good reason to go into a SC, enjoy the dances, buy drinks and tip well. You won't get ripped off if you just remember to respect the dancers boundries and just sit back and enjoy her hot sexy dances. :)
Hasn't always worked for me. I've learned that I have to be watchful of some strippers in LDs. They are either absent-minded, lazy or they think I'm an idiot and I'll let them do what they want on my time. So I wouldn't put it past some of these types to cheat me if they had the opportunity. I've only been actually ripped off twice but not for much.
Athenathefabulous
10-09-2010, 02:30 PM
despite my reputation on here, i actually rarely rip off customers. and when i do, whether or not they are ripped off is subjective. Im a very karmatic dancer
grey areas where some customers get ripped off:
1. Usually i start on the next song when a guy buys a dance to give him a full song, or do what KS said and run into the next song. however, often if you sit with a guy for part of a song to wait for the next song you will have to spend that part of the song stopping the guy from trying to make out with you. to the point where when they realize that you wont make out with them they wont buy the next song. (mind you i do nothing to indicate that making out is included in a dance). if i peg them to be one of these guys (they are easy to spot) they get the dance immediately and if i am right, which i almost always am, the dance ends when the song ends. No remorse here, they shouldnt have been trying to make out with me.
2. Sometimes if its busy i charge more. but the customer knows before hand what he is paying. there are no surprises or overcounting from my end. So no remorse from my end.
3. if a customer is hounding me for extras i will never outright say i will do them but i will change the subject and go in circles until the guy buys from me under the false perception that he will get extras. But honestly, anyone who falls for this is an idiot. I never tell them im going to suck their dick. No remorse from my end
4. the drinking- I dont drink at work unless it is champagne. in regards to fake drinks- if i get drink commissions i may or may not sell them, but lately i dont sell them at all because i dont want sugar (all the fake drinks have something sugary in them. and if i tell the bartender to fill my shot glass up with water when i say vodka she always ignores me and gives me vodka). so i usually tell the guy that i need to drive home and dont want a DUI so to save the money for dances later. some guys however, are very rude and insist i get drunk with them. Then i will order the fake drink if i get commision. they deserve it though... trying to pressure a girl to do somethiung that could land her in jail (DUI) so she will be drunk so you can feel her up is immoral- no remorse here.
5. When a customer gives me more money than the dances- if he looks at me expecting change back then i will ask him how much he wants back hinting that a tip might be appropriate. but if he walks off then i assume its a tip. Like laurcon said, who gives money to strippers and expects it back? no remorse here.
so yea, i sleep soundly at the end of the night.
also, for those who insist i am a ROB (cough CP cough) usually i dont demand my money up front, only for VIP rooms which is standard. and my whole time dancing i can count the times on one hand that guys tried to claim they didnt owe me money for the dances i gave. So if i was really ripping guys off on a regular basis, i thing customers would be claiming they didnt owe me money a lot more. and maybe i am good at the new jersey stare down intimidation routine, but im still a girl...
also, for those who insist i am a ROB ( Athena you are straightforward. Ignore the knuckleheads.
FBR
I havent been to the club for a while but have a modest tip roll. Maybe I will visit and see if they can finagle me :)
FNR
Kylea2
10-09-2010, 06:38 PM
First post and I hope I don't get slammed for it. I noted several dancers saying that, since they are independent contractors, they can charge/do what they want.
The real reason that most dancers are independent contractors has to do with how payroll (and taxes/FICA/etc.) works.
The key part of "independent contractor" that these dancers are missing is that they are *contractors*. They have made an agreement to provide services with certain parameters and this is a legal contract (written OR oral). If that agreement included charging X dollars per service then you are not legally entitled to charge more. If the club allows you to set your own prices then of course you can, but it has nothing to do with your independent contractor status.
All that said, I realize that some will negotiate their own prices regardless of club policy and as long as they are up front with the customer I have no problem with that. I usually find the club management to be the most negative aspect of clubs - so screw'em. I am only bringing this up since it seems a few dancers believe their contractor status gives them the right to do anything they want. Your legal right to violate a club policy may actually be less than for an employee, An independent contractor may have legal culpability for violating their contract where an employee could only be fired. I realize that clubs are highly unlikely to take dancers to court for this but I am just pointing out how the law works regarding independent contractors.
Most clubs don't state dance prices in their contracts with the dancers, so we aren't obligated to any price. However, some clubs such as the PT's chains are now requiring a written letter from dancers who intend to charge a different price than the club's posted dance price. What happens is the dancers often don't read this, try to negotiate prices with customers (without the letter to the club), which means she voided her own contract & will no longer be contracted by the club. The majority of clubs don't do this though.
^$100 is a lot of money!! I respect money, no matter how much of it I have. $100 is still $100.
Really? From what I have seen you are a very successful dancer making the big bucks. I can't imagine you stressing over 1 small. That is like 15 minutes in your world.
FBR
charlie61
10-10-2010, 12:16 PM
Really? From what I have seen you are a very successful dancer making the big bucks. I can't imagine you stressing over 1 small. That is like 15 minutes in your world.
FBR
I make very good money, but $100 is still $100. I treat every dollar like it's my last. I respect my money.
rlams2000
10-10-2010, 04:51 PM
I gave a dancer a $50 dollar bill once thinking it was a 20. I never saw a dancer go to the dressing as fast as she did. I didn't realize it until the next day. After that I never carry anything larger than $20 dollar bills.
But she has been the exception. I have had more than one dancer tell me I over paid her. Between my middle aged eyes, dark clubs, and too many beers I sometimes have a hard time counting.
laurcon
10-13-2010, 12:22 AM
One sad story. A dancer was waiting for the secound song to start and talking to her customer. She mentioned she needed new shoes, and made small talk. Then she did a few dances for him and he said, "Thanks! Here's a tip for your shoes!" and gave her $100. She squeed and hugged him, and ran to the boutique attached to the club and bought a new pair of her favorite brand of heels. After the customer sat back down, and went to tip someone on stage a few minutes later (time does fly fast in a strip club!) he realized he was $100 short. He had meant to give her a $10. He felt horrible for it, but had to ask for the money back. Which was spent. So management had to get involved and make her return the shoes, and the money. He felt like an ass and she was crying the locker room. Everyone lost.
Who really screwed who?
OMG! What kinda cheap place is this?! She mentions she needs new shoes and he says something like that and means to tip her 10 bucks?? I'd laugh and say something like "aw thanks but that's like 1% of the cost, guess I'll have to go do this with 99 other guys to get there ::)"
That's like if he gave the 10 bucks. I would assume he just meant to give me the $100 of course! Then if I actually bought shoes at the club like at that moment cause mine broke and I didn't wanna go home or have a friend or something... and dude came back to me saying "Oh I didn't mean to give you that money!" like yeah I'd flip. I'm pretty sure the management would back me, or just like buy the guy some drinks at the most. But obviously it's a way different.
If he felt like such an ass why didn't he just let it go! Like come on he already got "a few dances" which was at least $60, another $90 is not life or death. Learn not to act like a big shot acting like you're gonna "help" buy shoes with 10 bucks.
There is no way in hell she should have said "um oh my gosh sir, did you really mean to give me a whole hundred dollar bill?!?" like it's unusual to get or something!
Hopper
10-13-2010, 05:20 AM
OMG! What kinda cheap place is this?! She mentions she needs new shoes and he says something like that and means to tip her 10 bucks?? I'd laugh and say something like "aw thanks but that's like 1% of the cost, guess I'll have to go do this with 99 other guys to get there ::)"
You'd be silly to think he seriously meant he was going to help pay for a $1000 pair of shoes with one tip. The guy didn't chat with her for an hour, he just talked to her for half a song between dances. Hardly a reason to buy her a pair of shoes. Why would you spend $1000 on stripper shoes anyway.
That's like if he gave the 10 bucks. I would assume he just meant to give me the $100 of course! Then if I actually bought shoes at the club like at that moment cause mine broke and I didn't wanna go home or have a friend or something... and dude came back to me saying "Oh I didn't mean to give you that money!" like yeah I'd flip. I'm pretty sure the management would back me, or just like buy the guy some drinks at the most. But obviously it's a way different.
If $100 is a common tip for you then you could afford to give it back that one time and any customer who can't afford it wouldn't be in your club. You definitely wouldn't need help paying for shoes.
If he felt like such an ass why didn't he just let it go! Like come on he already got "a few dances" which was at least $60, another $90 is not life or death. Learn not to act like a big shot acting like you're gonna "help" buy shoes with 10 bucks.
Sure, he spent $60 on dances, why not give away another $90 all in one tip, since it won't kill him. Tipping $10 is hardly acting like a big shot. Tipping $100 by mistake and asking for it back is not acting like a big shot.
There is no way in hell she should have said "um oh my gosh sir, did you really mean to give me a whole hundred dollar bill?!?" like it's unusual to get or something!
Your club is unusual.
bem401
10-13-2010, 07:55 AM
I gave a dancer a $50 dollar bill once thinking it was a 20. I never saw a dancer go to the dressing as fast as she did. I didn't realize it until the next day. After that I never carry anything larger than $20 dollar bills.
But she has been the exception. I have had more than one dancer tell me I over paid her. Between my middle aged eyes, dark clubs, and too many beers I sometimes have a hard time counting.
I've told this story before. About 8 yrs ago I started visiting a local club. My preference was Asian girls. On one of my first visits (before I'd ever done VIP there), I mistakenly tipped a girl a $20 and two 1's instead of three ones. When I pointed it out to her, she returned the $20 very graciously but approached me for a dance after her set. I had to take a raincheck on the dance (why else would I have pointed out the overpayment?) but promised to return the next day to do some dances. I surprised her by showing up the next day as promised. Had she not impressed me by returning money that she was entitled to keep, she'd never have had me as a regular because it turned out the club had a few off-the-charts Asians I had not yet seen who would've gotten my attention (and $$$) before her. So doing the right thing paid off for her in my case at least.
Hopper
10-13-2010, 11:49 PM
^You became one of her regulars when you liked other strippers there a lot more?
bem401
10-14-2010, 06:04 AM
^You became one of her regulars when you liked other strippers there a lot more?
Yes, I liked her fine (not a lot less than the others). I spent fairly generously on her for a few months but eventually gravitated to the other girls. Had I not "owed" her some business, she might not have gotten it at all. Remember the thread a few weeks ago about juggling faves. There you go!
firemaiden04
10-14-2010, 08:06 AM
I only ever ripped a few customers off, and it was only when they were being difficult. One really drunk guy was all sorts of handsy during the dance, trying to take my g-string off and being really rude. At the end of the dance, he stood up unsteadily and pulled out his wallet. He made this huge show of pulling out $1, and folding it to put in my g-string. As he did so, as though in slow motion, this $100 slipped out of his wallet and gently floated to the ground. I put my foot on top of the bill and gracefully accepted the $1 he put in my g-string.
Don't know if that qualifies as ripping someone off. But I think it was karma...if he hadn't been such an enormous jackass, that probably wouldn't have happened.
charlie61
10-14-2010, 02:50 PM
I only ever ripped a few customers off, and it was only when they were being difficult. One really drunk guy was all sorts of handsy during the dance, trying to take my g-string off and being really rude. At the end of the dance, he stood up unsteadily and pulled out his wallet. He made this huge show of pulling out $1, and folding it to put in my g-string. As he did so, as though in slow motion, this $100 slipped out of his wallet and gently floated to the ground. I put my foot on top of the bill and gracefully accepted the $1 he put in my g-string.
Don't know if that qualifies as ripping someone off. But I think it was karma...if he hadn't been such an enormous jackass, that probably wouldn't have happened.
I was in almost the exact same situation once, and did the exact same thing. You can call it karma or an asshole tax, but I definitely didn't feel immoral when it happened. Which probably makes me immoral. But w/e.
JayATee
10-23-2010, 02:51 PM
How often do you ladies knowingly rip off customers e.g. overcharging, dancing less (half song instead of full song), etc? And do you feel guilty about doing it?
Oh look, another question that should never be answered let alone asked.
charlie61
10-23-2010, 03:12 PM
Oh look, another question that should never be answered let alone asked.
Why specifically? It seems like a legit enough question. I mean, it does happen...
JayATee
10-24-2010, 12:20 PM
Why specifically? It seems like a legit enough question. I mean, it does happen...
In and of itself yes, it's a legit question. But if you're looking to keep the fantasy of the SC alive it shouldn't be asked by a custy or answered by a dancer. IMO, it's bad for business all around.
charlie61
10-24-2010, 03:55 PM
In it of itself yes, it's a legit question. But if you're looking to keep the fantasy of the SC alive it shouldn't be asked by a custy or answered by a dancer. IMO, it's bad for business all around.
Perhaps. But if the blues wanted to keep the fantasy alive, they probably wouldn't be on this site in the first place. :)
Hopper
10-25-2010, 01:33 AM
In it of itself yes, it's a legit question. But if you're looking to keep the fantasy of the SC alive it shouldn't be asked by a custy or answered by a dancer. IMO, it's bad for business all around.
Most of us have probably already been ripped off. The rest eventually will be.
laurcon
10-25-2010, 06:09 AM
Perhaps. But if the blues wanted to keep the fantasy alive, they probably wouldn't be on this site in the first place. :)
Maybe the Blues on this site don't want it, but the fantasy is still my job and I might take that a little seriously. If a customer at the club asked us this it would be ridiculous to answer so that he could go around saying "oh I know what some girls do..." So if a guy who's not a "Blue" stumbles on this site he can type in "rip off customers" and get the same info and tell the same dumb stories and be all scared to hand over his fucking money already. I completely understand the apprehension.
xGigi
10-25-2010, 06:21 AM
if the guy is so wasted he's falling asleep during the dance, I'll cut it short.
Hopper
10-25-2010, 06:22 AM
^It's unfair not to warn them. If they get ripped off, they will be just as unlikely to spend again. If they are warned about it, they will still spend, they will just be careful not to be cheated. They are going to be cheated sooner or later. Most of the stories in this thread are about cheating asshole customers.
Look at it this way. If another stripper in your club cheats a customer of say $100, that's $100 he's not going to spend on you. He may walk out without spending any more. If the info here helps eliminate the cheaters, it should be good for the honest strippers.
JayATee
10-25-2010, 10:16 AM
Why specifically? It seems like a legit enough question. I mean, it does happen...
Yes. But it depends on the blue asking the question.
jester214
10-25-2010, 08:27 PM
There are many levels of "ripped off"...
"Asshole Tax"... if I took money from clients for being assholes, I would go to jail. Yet I recognize that some people deserve it, though still feels kinda "wrong" to me.
Taking advantage of confusion... I would never take advantage of someone inebriated, especially a woman. So I guess I expect similar consideration.
^^Those two might occasionally have merit depending on the situation.
What I consider a true "rip-off" is dishonesty or outright theft. I.E. taking a $50 instead of a $20 because you can, shorting someone on change, lieing about dance count... etc.
Only happened to me twice. One time I tried to get change for a $100 and they tried to short me. The other time she literally took my money clip and tried flipped past the $20's to try and take a $50. I guess they thought I was drunk.
jester214
10-25-2010, 08:28 PM
Yes. But it depends on the blue asking the question.
I have to agree, though I was intrigued to read the answers.
There seemed to be a certain degree of "malice" in the quesiton.
goreantx
10-25-2010, 09:21 PM
Why rip them off? That doesn't make any sense. Do you mean overcharge? It's not overcharging if they are willing to pay it? This has to be a prank question
Hopper
10-26-2010, 04:08 AM
"Asshole Tax"... if I took money from clients for being assholes, I would go to jail. Yet I recognize that some people deserve it, though still feels kinda "wrong" to me.
Depends what they mean by "asshole". Many of the rip-offs described by strippers here have been for customers who tried to get more than what they paid for. If the stripper cheats a customer like that, he probably owes it to her anyway.
JayATee
10-26-2010, 09:07 AM
I have to agree, though I was intrigued to read the answers.
There seemed to be a certain degree of "malice" in the quesiton.
Completely which is why I gave the response I did. I don't get the feeling that the OP is a seasoned vet of SC'ing, nor do I think that the question was asked for any other reason than affirmation that we're "evil creatures" who do nothing but rip custys off because we're "man-haters". JMO.
ETA: After reading his other posts I was correct. He is a newbie to the SC scene and seems entirely set in the idea that he's getting ripped off every which way possible.
velvet
10-26-2010, 07:22 PM
Maybe the Blues on this site don't want it, but the fantasy is still my job and I might take that a little seriously. If a customer at the club asked us this it would be ridiculous to answer so that he could go around saying "oh I know what some girls do..." So if a guy who's not a "Blue" stumbles on this site he can type in "rip off customers" and get the same info and tell the same dumb stories and be all scared to hand over his fucking money already. I completely understand the apprehension.
I know for a fact we have all lost a lot of customers over the years from them reading this board,so I know where you are coming from. sure a very small amount learn from here but for a lot the fantasy is completely ruined from these types of threads and all our gross hygiene issues;D
JayATee
10-26-2010, 07:24 PM
^ haha, totally.
threlayer
10-26-2010, 08:11 PM
Being a well-behaved customer (there are advantages to that) if I get 'ripped off' intentionally by a dancer (and I evaluate frequently), that's the last penny she will ever see from me, though I may smile at her from time to time. I think most dancers know this, so it has seldom happened to me. Hope that helps the OP.
Pretty_Penny
10-26-2010, 11:17 PM
when I was dancing the only time I "ripped a guy off" was by pretending to do shots. Fuck, I still do that as a cocktail waitress/bartender. Not always, but I'd say 90% of the time my "shot" is virgin.
I was/am pretty good at two tricks for not getting drunk:
1. when the guy is pushing shots, ask for a shot and a glass of soda/cranberry/water/whatever. take the shot (but don't swallow) make a "god that was so strong" face, while "sipping" the other drink.... in which case you are actually spitting the shot into the drink. Slowly drink that (now very weak mixed) drink... order more shots.. and keep doing that. Get "fresh" drinks as needed when said "back" gets too strong. you get drunk wayyy slower that way, or not at all.
2. when a guy asks for a shot, act like you need to go to the dressing room real fast (to pee, change, whatever)... but say you'll do the shot first. take the shot (but dont swallow), master the art of looking like nothing is in your mouth while you calmly walk to the bathroom and spit it out. I can smile and everything while holding a full shot in my mouth. (get your minds out of the gutter)
other than alcohol I never scammed a guy. I DID however, end dances early, when the guy was being handsy.
threlayer
11-05-2010, 07:46 PM
when I was dancing the only time I "ripped a guy off" was by pretending to do shots. Fuck, I still do that as a cocktail waitress/bartender. Not always, but I'd say 90% of the time my "shot" is virgin.
I don't think that is you ripping anyone off, though the bar may be guilty of it, by essentially encouraging the customer to try to get you drunk enough to get you in trouble.
xGigi
11-10-2010, 01:26 PM
I personally hate it when girls rip off a guy at the club. even if it's charging 5 extra dollars for a dance. the dances are 30 dollars so if a girl charges 35 dollars and the guy had 60 bucks in his pocket when he came in, he had enough for two dances so that means any other girl who tries to get a dance from him won't be able to and he'll figure oh well I can't get another lap dance and end up spending the rest of his money on drinks or just leave. not to mention the fact that she's totally fucking herself because he could have gotten another dance from the same girl.
xGigi
11-10-2010, 01:29 PM
when I was dancing the only time I "ripped a guy off" was by pretending to do shots. Fuck, I still do that as a cocktail waitress/bartender. Not always, but I'd say 90% of the time my "shot" is virgin.
I was/am pretty good at two tricks for not getting drunk:
1. when the guy is pushing shots, ask for a shot and a glass of soda/cranberry/water/whatever. take the shot (but don't swallow) make a "god that was so strong" face, while "sipping" the other drink.... in which case you are actually spitting the shot into the drink. Slowly drink that (now very weak mixed) drink... order more shots.. and keep doing that. Get "fresh" drinks as needed when said "back" gets too strong. you get drunk wayyy slower that way, or not at all.
2. when a guy asks for a shot, act like you need to go to the dressing room real fast (to pee, change, whatever)... but say you'll do the shot first. take the shot (but dont swallow), master the art of looking like nothing is in your mouth while you calmly walk to the bathroom and spit it out. I can smile and everything while holding a full shot in my mouth. (get your minds out of the gutter)
other than alcohol I never scammed a guy. I DID however, end dances early, when the guy was being handsy.
I didn't have my mind in the gutter until you said that LOL
I know of clubs that will make virgin shots and sell them to customers who want to get the dancers drunk but I heard that's actually illegal?
rickdugan
11-10-2010, 07:14 PM
when I was dancing the only time I "ripped a guy off" was by pretending to do shots. Fuck, I still do that as a cocktail waitress/bartender. Not always, but I'd say 90% of the time my "shot" is virgin.
I am one of the guys that routinely offers to buy drinks and I see nothing wrong with this. This is a necessary survival tactic. Guys are offering to buy drinks all the time and if you take alcohol everytime you will be hammered. Heck, there ARE many girls working in that condition, probably due in part to an inability or unwillingness to say no or to take a virgin drink.
Now I will admit that I didn't understand this is my younger days and probably would have been pissed at paying a lot of money for what was basically a club soda or some soft drink, so I understand the challenge. For this reason, I actually agree that having a system to hide it is the best approach as it is a win win - the customer thinks you are drinking with him and you are not getting smashed.
phairestofthemall
11-11-2010, 07:53 AM
I haven't ever ripped anyone off myself, but one girl I worked with got fired for being a ROB. Apparently she made a bad habit of offering to break big bills for custies and then disappearing, tsk.
This street goes both ways BTW- dancers get ripped off too. A few times I've had guys invite me to dance for them, and then just play dumb and refuse to pay afterward. Sometimes I bring a bouncer over in those cases, sometimes I just take the loss and pass the word for other girls to ignore them. I've also had stuff swiped by other dancers. The worst one was from a waitress though- the first time she shorted my funny money I gave her the benefit of the doubt, but the second time I called her out on it in front of everyone, and I don't give her my tabs anymore.
AmyLynne
11-13-2010, 03:38 PM
all the time! LOL