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Elvia
10-08-2010, 02:44 PM
^^^ It doesn't matter what's in other threads, Kayla. That's not really relevant to the topic being discussed here.
Kellydancer
10-08-2010, 02:44 PM
Has ANYONE here said they are supporting a man? Maybe I missed something, but I don't think so.
I'm really sick of people acting as if there are only two options- the man pays for everything, or the woman pays for everything. This is not the first time it's been mentioned that people keep resorting to this bizarre logical fallacy. Why they continue to do so is beyond me...
Perhaps some took my comments that if I end up with the guy I hope I'll be making more money than him. That's certainly not supporting if that happens because he does have a strong work ethic and would pay in other ways if by chance I pay more (such as housework which he doesn't mind). I certainly would never support a man and wouldn't accept a guy who didn't want to work. I look at this as a result of me going to school and getting skilled in fields as compared to him who's happy working in a factory (of which he makes a decent salary).
Elvia
10-08-2010, 02:44 PM
double post, deleted.
charlie61
10-08-2010, 02:45 PM
<------ Is sick of this topic.
KaylaM
10-08-2010, 02:47 PM
^^^ It doesn't matter what's in other threads, Kayla. That's not really relevant to the topic being discussed here.
Yes. It is VERY relevant... WTF? It DOES matter.
KaylaM
10-08-2010, 02:49 PM
Ladies, This is stripperweb, An online board. Don't take this shit serious. Life goes on. I was not referring to anyone on this thread. In fact, the member I was referring to hasn't posted on this thread Just for the record. Damn Speak your mind and everyone gets butt hurt. I promise you this world would be a boring ass place if we all THOUGHT THE SAME WAY! SHIIIIT!
Elvia
10-08-2010, 02:50 PM
The question in the OP is basically "should a man be expected to pay for everything by virtue of being a man." If you're going to point to other threads to claim your rant is relevant, then maybe it should be in THOSE threads.
Maybe you should take your own advice, you seem pretty butt-hurt right now.
KaylaM
10-08-2010, 02:57 PM
The question in the OP is basically "should a man be expected to pay for everything by virtue of being a man." If you're going to point to other threads to claim your rant is relevant, then maybe it should be in THOSE threads.
Maybe you should take your own advice, you seem pretty butt-hurt right now.
Rant?
Far from it. Butt hurt? You wish. I'm sippin on Dom Perignon with a friend watching ANTM reruns. Would you like some?
Why so angry Elvia? Sorry.. I'm just being my usual opinionated self.
KaylaM
10-08-2010, 03:03 PM
The question in the OP is basically "should a man be expected to pay for everything by virtue of being a man." If you're going to point to other threads to claim your rant is relevant, then maybe it should be in THOSE threads.
Maybe you should take your own advice, you seem pretty butt-hurt right now.
I am so annoyed right now. Maybe I am old fashioned or raised to expect to be spoiled but I hate paying my half of the rent. I live with my BF and we agreed to split the rent when we signed the lease but it just feels so wrong. Should't the man want to take care of his woman? Am I being ridiculous
? IS this normal?
.....
Just wanted to let you know you quoted her wrong. ;)
My initial response was to this question AND like DevonSantos said, If I wanted a roommate I'd get on craigslist and find one. Stop being so catty and learn how to chat without getting upset ESPECIALLY when it has NOTHING to do with you.
Elvia
10-08-2010, 03:04 PM
^^^ I'm not angry in the slightest. I just don't understand why the people who want a man to take care of them need to keep bringing up women who would support a man. I agree that I would never want to carry the entire financial burden, but I also don't think it's relevant to keep bringing it up as if those are the only two options. No one has said anything about supporting a man in this thread, so it doesn't make sense that people are attacking it. I can only assume they are doing so in a misguided attempt to employ it as some sort of argument in favor of the man paying for everything. Which doesn't work.
Though it does seem curious to me that the people who expect to have their choice of expecting the man to support them respected are so quick to be very disrespectful to anyone who might choose to be the breadwinner and let the man stay home. I would think if staying at home makes a man a "bitch" then the same applies to a woman who stays at home.
Elvia
10-08-2010, 03:06 PM
I didn't misquote anyone because I didn't quote anyone. I paraphrased. But no, a rant against women who would support a man is still not relevant to the OP. I'm not being catty, you just don't seem to be able to handle being told that either 1) your argument doesn't make sense (if it is an argument) or 2) if it's not an argument then it is an irrelevant rant.
I am so annoyed right now. Maybe I am old fashioned or raised to expect to be spoiled but I hate paying my half of the rent. I live with my BF and we agreed to split the rent when we signed the lease but it just feels so wrong. Should't the man want to take care of his woman? Am I being ridiculous
? IS this normal?
.....
Just wanted to let you know you quoted her wrong. ;)
My initial response was to this question AND like DevonSantos said, If I wanted a roommate I'd get on craigslist and find one. Stop being so catty and learn how to chat without getting upset ESPECIALLY when it has NOTHING to do with you.
KaylaM
10-08-2010, 03:11 PM
^^^ I'm not angry in the slightest. I just don't understand why the people who want a man to take care of them need to keep bringing up women who would support a man. I agree that I would never want to carry the entire financial burden, but I also don't think it's relevant to keep bringing it up as if those are the only two options. No one has said anything about supporting a man in this thread, so it doesn't make sense that people are attacking it. I can only assume they are doing so in a misguided attempt to employ it as some sort of argument in favor of the man paying for everything. Which doesn't work.
Though it does seem curious to me that the people who expect to have their choice of expecting the man to support them respected are so quick to be very disrespectful to anyone who might choose to be the breadwinner and let the man stay home. I would think if staying at home makes a man a "bitch" then the same applies to a woman who stays at home.
why does it bother you so much elvia? omg!!!! Why are you mad that people are attacking it? Sorry for attacking it... WOW! If I knew it would bother you so much I wouldn't have said a thing. Geez.
Oh you can call the woman who chooses to stay at home a "bitch" all you want. I. do. not. care for those type of people. I am very independent and all for independent women. I never encouraged anyone to become stay-at-home housewives. I find it EXTREMELY degrading.
Elvia
10-08-2010, 03:14 PM
I'm not mad at anyone Kayla. I'm just engaging in the discussion. You made a point, I responded to said point...as is how a forum like this works...
KaylaM
10-08-2010, 03:16 PM
I'm not mad at anyone Kayla. I'm just engaging in the discussion. You made a point, I responded to said point...as is how a forum like this works...
I am also not mad at you Elvia. I'm actually having an awesome day. I just don't like being told how to post and where not to look when posting. I do not like that.
Elvia
10-08-2010, 03:17 PM
And I never called anyone a Bitch.
KaylaM
10-08-2010, 03:19 PM
" I would think if staying at home makes a man a "bitch" then the same applies to a woman who stays at home."
You didn't. You did it indirectly in this post. This may be reality for some members that posted on this thread.
Elvia
10-08-2010, 03:22 PM
What I said was according to YOUR logic, if that situation makes a man a bitch then I would think the same applies to a woman. But, since I reject the idea that staying at home makes a man a "bitch", put it all together...and no, I'm not calling anyone a bitch. Only you are.
KaylaM
10-08-2010, 03:24 PM
What I said was according to YOUR logic, if that situation makes a man a bitch then I would think the same applies to a woman. But, since I reject the idea that staying at home makes a man a "bitch", put it all together...and no, I'm not calling anyone a bitch. Only you are.
I understand.
Yes I did and I am not taking it back.
_Avery_
10-08-2010, 03:35 PM
^ Part of the issue too is that it really is hard to 'hear' peoples' viewpoints via the internet sometimes. People can't hear intonation, etc, and so it's pretty easy to get offended.
That's why I overuse smiley's..lol, don't wanna "sound" mean. :P
/threadjack!
Kellydancer
10-08-2010, 04:02 PM
Though it does seem curious to me that the people who expect to have their choice of expecting the man to support them respected are so quick to be very disrespectful to anyone who might choose to be the breadwinner and let the man stay home. I would think if staying at home makes a man a "bitch" then the same applies to a woman who stays at home.
I've been wondering about this. Why is it a double standard when men stay home versus women? If I was making a lot of money and say I had kids I wouldn't care if a man stayed at home, as long as he was cooking and cleaning and not being lazy, same as if I was a man with a wife who wanted to stay at home. I've never understood this double standard, not just here but in general. Why is it we are supposed to respect a woman's choice to stay at home but if a guy does he's automatically lazy? Personally I've known both stay at home moms and DADS and some were lazy and some were not. When I've stated I've known lazy stay at home moms I've gotten attacked (not just here) but when I've mentioned stay at home dads I often get comments like "stay at home dads are lazy". I just feel that the standard should be applied to both genders. I will say in the majority of the parents I know both work fulltime.
Btw, just so others don't twist my words I am NOT talking about the guys who stay at home because they don't want to work and do mooch off women. I'm talking in situations where a couple has a child and they want one parent to stay at home and the mom makes a lot more than the dad.
Candy Girl
10-08-2010, 04:55 PM
I think we're all struggling with the idea of what kind of financial support to expect from a man we're having sex with. It's not a platonic friend, it's not our sister or a woman who's just a friend.
A man who has sex with us is not "just a roommate." So the question is why the OP has these irksome feelings and why some of us have learned the hard way.
Our opinions are all fair but the smart-alecky guttersniping is fun but a lil' too much heat for the boards.
But it's f-ing cool that this topic is soooo juicy. I keep checking it and my phone for updates.
You all rock!!
On to thinking, purposeful decisions.
Hugs!!!
Nuclear Martini
10-08-2010, 05:12 PM
I must admit, your attitude makes me want to work at the SC 5 nights a week and make shitloads of money. So it seems that that would be a very helpful perspective for financial gain. Maybe SW should set up a service (for a monthly fee) where J.D. will personally call you and talk shit about men until you go into work? }:D
Oh my goodness.... that really made me feel like going into the club and taking some suckers mortgage payment away from him!
charlie61
10-08-2010, 05:23 PM
^ I know, right??
Nuclear Martini
10-08-2010, 05:28 PM
My original post is nothing like this, I think this poorly represents my original post. This is what was posted on the blue side:
Do you think it's fair to pay all the rent and completely take care of your girl financially?
Or do you think responsibilities should be shared??
Just genuinely curious. :)
(and hope I'm allowed to do this!)
There is nothing in my original post saying "Why don't men fully support women anymore?". This thread has turned into a beast.
I can fully support myself and would never expect a man to fully support me. Its one thing to mention rent which, up until maybe 10 years ago men always payed anyway w/o question, than it is to mention all living expenses payed.
Also, my man contributes more than I financially to the house and he does it because he wants to, not because I put any pressure on him. We make about the same amount of money, he just seems happy to be the man and contribute.
Nuclear Martini
10-08-2010, 05:40 PM
[quote=Candy Girl;1994041]So the question is why the OP has these irksome feelings and why some of us have learned the hard way.
[quote]
Multiple women in my immediate family (of the older generation) have made comments like "he should be paying the rent anyways" and I can see their point.
This thread wasn't made out of desperation to be unemployed, this thread was made when one day I was sitting at home pondering........ what if?? Why? It would sure be neat-o!
I wasn't sitting at my desk, stewing, wondering when I will land a man who will take care of me so I can be a lazy little brat. I certainly was attacked like I was though.
Even if a woman wanted a completly traditional relationship, she should not be belittled for it. To each her own!!!!
This thread was not a demand for more traditional ways.... This thread was girl talk.. something that may be brought up at a table among close girlfriends. I thought thats what ladies only was for.
I study biology full-time and work part-time, my BF works full-time and is not in school. Once in a while, yes, I do think to myself "Why doesn't he just want to make my life a little less stressful and take care of my portion, when he was in financial turmoil, I helped him out".
But, I let it go. My life is good, my boyfriend treats me good, my family is supportive of me, I am blessed.
I did not expect this kind of reaction to my thread, it saddens me that some people's first reaction is to attack any oppinion that is diffrent from their own. Can't we just agree to disagree or at least not jump to conclusions about eachother?
Nuclear Martini
10-08-2010, 05:46 PM
The question in the OP is basically "should a man be expected to pay for everything by virtue of being a man." If you're going to point to other threads to claim your rant is relevant, then maybe it should be in THOSE threads.
Maybe you should take your own advice, you seem pretty butt-hurt right now.
Last time I checked, "rent" and "everything" were not synonyms :D
Arialandre
10-08-2010, 08:34 PM
Hahahahahahahahaa
KaylaM
10-09-2010, 01:33 AM
*sigh*
_Avery_
10-09-2010, 12:28 PM
My original post is nothing like this, I think this poorly represents my original post. This is what was posted on the blue side:
There is nothing in my original post saying "Why don't men fully support women anymore?". This thread has turned into a beast.
I can fully support myself and would never expect a man to fully support me. Its one thing to mention rent which, up until maybe 10 years ago men always payed anyway w/o question, than it is to mention all living expenses payed.
Also, my man contributes more than I financially to the house and he does it because he wants to, not because I put any pressure on him. We make about the same amount of money, he just seems happy to be the man and contribute.
Maybe that's not what you meant by YOUR OP, but that's what it seemed to turn into.
Kylea2
10-09-2010, 06:08 PM
Maybe that's not what you meant by YOUR OP, but that's what it seemed to turn into.
So... this IS the thread being discussed on the blue side! I would have never guessed. The questions are too far apart:
1. What happened to men paying rent?
2. What happened to men paying all living expenses?
I've lived with many men & here's what I think on this. I've lived with them, only to find out I pitched in more for rent then what the mortgage was... I was being taken advantage of. By the way, that one still expected me to clean & make dinner! I've had them live with me (in a home I owned too) & not one would ever pitch in even 50% of the rent... they weren't doing any cooking/cleaning to make-up the difference & were not respectful of the home (spilled red wine everywhere). On top of that I've always had multiple jobs. I learned long ago the value of a maid coming in to clean the home. I can't work multiple jobs, pay the majority of the bills AND cook/clean.
So, what do I think at this point?
I have yet to live with a man that was actually clean or didn't annoy me in some way. I like having them around I guess because I think they'll keep me safe if someone breaks in. Even without them I still would prefer to have a maid... but living without a man actually would save me money because I'd only need her to come in once per week ($50) versus 2-3 ($100 - $150) times per week. I also wouldn't need so much space for all their junk, so living alone is cheaper because you don't need so much space. BTW, why do I always find the guys who have more junk than I do?!
At this point I think I'd rather just have my own place. If a guy wants to go out fine. He can pick me up at my place, drop me off at the door after... & as long as he doesn't expect me to pay for his meal I'm 100% happy. As for feeling safe, I have re-thought my opinions on guns & plan to take some classes at shooting range. I'm also a cat person but if I suddenly get a big dog... don't anyone be surprised.
I'll be damned before I have some man thinking I'm going to ask him for money & playing "housewife". If a guy wants to pay for my living expenses fine - but right now: he's not living with me & I will continue working because I don't ever want to find myself at his mercy. Yes, I'm in a sour mood about this. Maybe one day I'll get over it... maybe I won't.
I like men who have a mutual respect for balance & independence. If he wants to spoil me a bit with living expenses I would probably faint of surprise! However I'd also probably treat him EXTREMELY well in return - cooking dinner at his place, sending gifts to him at work, planning surprise get-a-ways, just generally fawning over him. Why? I don't expect it... so if they go out of their way to do it I'd want them to know how much I appreciate it.
Jessie_tinydancer
10-09-2010, 09:37 PM
^ There are clean ones out there. All the men Ive been attracted to have been waaaaaay more clean and organised than me. My ex had his CD collection in alphabetical order and ironed and hung his tshirts in the closet in colour order. LOL
Kylea2
10-09-2010, 10:21 PM
^^^ There's always something though that's weird. Like they sleep in their clothes, don't brush their teeth before bed, re-use cereal bowls without washing them. They sneak in their weirdness/un-cleanliness underhandedly
rubyredlipsss
10-10-2010, 01:32 AM
^ewww. haha. the one boyfriend i lived with was cleaner than me and could cook a helluva lot better than me as well. so yeah, we shared expenses but he pretty much always cooked (unless it was pasta) and cleaned too. i gave him good head. A LOT. so i considered it even :D
Jessie_tinydancer
10-10-2010, 03:58 AM
Girls dont like boys. Girls like cars and money??? Good Charlotte you are so clever.
xoAnnaBanana
10-10-2010, 06:55 AM
As far as should the man pay for the rent? I think that it's entirely your prerogative and which ever way you choose, is correct since ultimately it's up to you anyway. No one should have to defend or argue their choice because at the end of the day, it's just personal preference.
Personally I think I would only be comfortable with having the rent be split 50/50 until I were engaged/married.
This is probably because after seeing my Mother lose her house that she herself grew up in and raised a family in, all because she expected that my Father would pay the whole mortgage on time (only to find out later that he stopped paying for MONTHS and later moved out, leaving her with the balance of thousands of dollars), she could not make up the difference because she had no idea what was going on and obviously was not saving up money since she didn't know she needed to in the first place.
So until I'm engaged/married, I will most likely split the rent 50/50 and even after that, I will ALWAYS make sure that I am financially independent, meaning that I could afford the entire rent on my own without struggling, if something were to happen to my significant other.
It is obviously IDEAL to have a man to trust/rely/"depend" on with these sort of important things like rent, but it is my belief that the only 2 people you can undoubtedly trust are 1) God and 2) yourself.
Kylea2
10-10-2010, 01:45 PM
^^^ I've seen very similar situations. Not all people are responsible & no matter how much you think you can trust someone, ultimately you are responsible for your own well-being.
Kellydancer
10-10-2010, 05:00 PM
^ There are clean ones out there. All the men Ive been attracted to have been waaaaaay more clean and organised than me. My ex had his CD collection in alphabetical order and ironed and hung his tshirts in the closet in colour order. LOL
I lived with a clean freak exactly like that. Everything was in order and he did all the cooking and cleaning and paid most of the bills. Of course he was an alcoholic jerk but that's another story. I am not really much of a clean freak but keep my CDs in order along with my books.
I do have to ask where women are getting these guys who expect them to pay 50% and do all the work. Maybe I've been blessed but haven't come around these guys. I've come around the guys who expect me to pay half the rent and we share cleaning/cooking or guys who expected me to cook and clean but they paid the bills (didn't date these guys long). No way would I pay 50% and still do all or most of the housework.
Jessie_tinydancer
10-10-2010, 10:52 PM
^ Ya I just pay people to do most things for me. Im too busy to play suzy homemaker. Cleaner, takeaways, heck we even take our laundry to be done. Im cooking tonight for the first time in months. Actually I washed towels yesterday too. I must be feeling domestic. hehe
rubyredlipsss
10-10-2010, 10:54 PM
^ha me too. yesterday i took 15 pieces of clothing to the dry-cleaners. and i think it's been two weeks since i cooked. im SUPER lazy.
Kylea2
10-10-2010, 11:02 PM
I do have to ask where women are getting these guys who expect them to pay 50% and do all the work.
Places I've met them:
- Needed something fixed, went to a store that sold parts for it & the guy offered to do the whole repair for free
- Working at normal day job - he was my boss's right hand man & we didn't start dating until after I left the company
- Friendly acquaintance who I regularly got together with for religious events
- Online
I'm sure there are more... just can't think right now.
All were smart men, probably over-educated more often than not. All made very good money... more than I do myself in most cases. They just believed in "going dutch" or sometimes less than that in the case of mortgage/rent.
Kellydancer
10-10-2010, 11:16 PM
Places I've met them:
- Needed something fixed, went to a store that sold parts for it & the guy offered to do the whole repair for free
- Working at normal day job - he was my boss's right hand man & we didn't start dating until after I left the company
- Friendly acquaintance who I regularly got together with for religious events
- Online
I'm sure there are more... just can't think right now.
All were smart men, probably over-educated more often than not. All made very good money... more than I do myself in most cases. They just believed in "going dutch" or sometimes less than that in the case of mortgage/rent.
I'm not doubting you (I hope it didn't appear that way), just that I've only met the extreme (guys who shared or guys who paid and expected their wives to cook/clean). What justification do these guys give for expecting 50% bills and the women to cook/clean? I think these guys are wrong because if both people are paying 50/50 that should include cleaning/cooking, etc.
princessjas
10-11-2010, 12:24 AM
I'm not doubting you (I hope it didn't appear that way), just that I've only met the extreme (guys who shared or guys who paid and expected their wives to cook/clean). What justification do these guys give for expecting 50% bills and the women to cook/clean? I think these guys are wrong because if both people are paying 50/50 that should include cleaning/cooking, etc.
They don't really have a justification, other than, "That's how my Mom did it," imo. That was my ex'es excuse at least. I did end up being a homemaker, but hell it was a 4000 sq/ft home, and neither of us can stand dirt......so I spent around 5 hrs a day cleaning and around 5-6 with learning activities with the kids.....that ends most of my free time. Add in cooking the gourmet meals he expected and I'm all tapped out even if you have a housekeeper come and dust the dirty spots once a week.
Nuclear Martini
10-11-2010, 03:01 AM
My man is more of a neat freak than I am, which is good, I can let things get out of hand.
He also likes to cook, and is a good cook, but he doesn't eat any kind of seafood which is my favorite food in the world. Salmon, tilapia, shrimp, oh my.
Kellydancer
10-11-2010, 10:46 AM
They don't really have a justification, other than, "That's how my Mom did it," imo. That was my ex'es excuse at least. I did end up being a homemaker, but hell it was a 4000 sq/ft home, and neither of us can stand dirt......so I spent around 5 hrs a day cleaning and around 5-6 with learning activities with the kids.....that ends most of my free time. Add in cooking the gourmet meals he expected and I'm all tapped out even if you have a housekeeper come and dust the dirty spots once a week.
A relative once told me that when I date a guy ask right away about his mother. If she was a stay at home mom he's often expecting that (or at least the woman to clean even if she's not at home). Almost every guy I've dated had working moms and they were expected to clean and many learned to cook early on. Even in the case of the guy I want his mom was a working woman and had a stronger work ethic than his father. He had to learn to clean at an early age, though not cooking (he did say that if we move in together we'll both have to learn to cook). Dating a guy with a stay at home mom would send me bad vibes. I did have two guyfriends (both were brothers) who had a stay at home mom and needless to say that's what they wanted. Personally I'd never marry or date a guy who wouldn't do his fair share.
Elvia
10-11-2010, 02:37 PM
I can fully support myself and would never expect a man to fully support me. Its one thing to mention rent which, up until maybe 10 years ago men always payed anyway w/o question, than it is to mention all living expenses payed.
In what world?? There must be some serious cultural differences going on here. I do no remember a time in my lifetime where is was considered standard for the man to pay all the rent.
KaylaM
10-11-2010, 03:13 PM
In what world?? There must be some serious cultural differences going on here. I do no remember a time in my lifetime where is was considered standard for the man to pay all the rent.
I don't know about NM but This is the case for ALOT of people. It is STANDARD for a lot of people. Where I'm from it is. Americans do ALOT of things differently from people in other parts of the world.
The thing is when they come to America they don't become Americanized (though some do) they live their lives by what they were taught. Call it fucked up or wrong but I like it.
Not only people from other countries but some people were raised to be/think and live a certain way. This shouldn't be a surprise to you.
Jessie_tinydancer
10-11-2010, 03:22 PM
^ I think its safe to say most if not all first world countries work of a male/female equality system. A lots of the questions on the Australia Citizenship test are actually based on that because Aussies are really not impressed with the influx of 2nd and 3rd world immigrants who refuse to live within the norms of the culture here. I found it quite entertaining reading all the equality questions... I was like duhhh.
But since the poorer countries are the ones who are procreating. Yes population wise technically most of the world is not modern in their views.
DesuvsDeath
10-11-2010, 04:01 PM
^^^ There's always something though that's weird. Like they sleep in their clothes, don't brush their teeth before bed, re-use cereal bowls without washing them. They sneak in their weirdness/un-cleanliness underhandedly
With mine it's socks. Everywhere. He has a whole drawer, 2' by 3' and 1' deep... NOTHING but socks... and I swear to god I have to do laundry every week or he runs out.
I have NO CLUE how he goes through all of these fucking socks! LOL.
There's always something weird.
Personally I think I would only be comfortable with having the rent be split 50/50 until I were engaged/married.
Maybe that's part of the difference of opinion between some of us here.
I just assumed that engagement/marriage was implied, because I personally wouldn't live with someone otherwise... :-\
Elvia
10-11-2010, 07:35 PM
I don't know about NM but This is the case for ALOT of people. It is STANDARD for a lot of people. Where I'm from it is. Americans do ALOT of things differently from people in other parts of the world.
The thing is when they come to America they don't become Americanized (though some do) they live their lives by what they were taught. Call it fucked up or wrong but I like it.
Not only people from other countries but some people were raised to be/think and live a certain way. This shouldn't be a surprise to you.
After being on stripperweb for several years, I've gotten the impression that NM is a native of the "western world" or "first world nations" (or whatever term you my prefer to refer the dominant culture of the US, Canada, Australia, much of Europe, etc). And if she's not, she probably knows that the majority of people on SW are, and she seems to have an overall clear understanding of modern western "culture" so it would seem strange that she would present the idea that the man always pays the rent as the "norm." Yes, I know people do things differently all over the world, thankyouverymuch. But I'm gonna go ahead and employ a sense of context here and, once again, try to keep things relevant.
And yes, I realize people do things differently even in the same country. Perhaps in her particular subculture this was the norm up until 10 years ago. That fascinates me, so I'll comment on it, and maybe she'll comment back. It's a perfectly normal discussion and theres no reason for you to assume or infer that I had no knowledge of the varying differences in world cultures. You're assuming way too much when you read my posts these days, Malaya. ::)
KaylaM
10-12-2010, 04:01 AM
After being on stripperweb for several years, I've gotten the impression that NM is a native of the "western world" or "first world nations" (or whatever term you my prefer to refer the dominant culture of the US, Canada, Australia, much of Europe, etc). And if she's not, she probably knows that the majority of people on SW are, and she seems to have an overall clear understanding of modern western "culture" so it would seem strange that she would present the idea that the man always pays the rent as the "norm." Yes, I know people do things differently all over the world, thankyouverymuch. But I'm gonna go ahead and employ a sense of context here and, once again, try to keep things relevant.
And yes, I realize people do things differently even in the same country. Perhaps in her particular subculture this was the norm up until 10 years ago. That fascinates me, so I'll comment on it, and maybe she'll comment back. It's a perfectly normal discussion and theres no reason for you to assume or infer that I had no knowledge of the varying differences in world cultures. You're assuming way too much when you read my posts these days, Malaya. ::)
Oh my gosh Elvia. I never assumed anything. This is a discussion isn't it. You're the one that's assuming. Did you think I was schooling you? Because I wasn't and I was not attacking you.