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mzdeniro
10-17-2010, 12:34 PM
Well this was a good thread before it got way off track. But just for kicks, I'm going to actually respond to what the threads about lol.

I think whether the man pays the whole rent or half and it being normal depends on the person and how they were raised. I was raised by my mom and she always paid the mortgage and other bills by herself. She may have asked my step-dad for help every once in awhile but besides that its always just been her.

My mom and step-dad have been together for 22yrs and a majority of the time they've lived in separate places. They've tried to live under one house but my mom didn't like the fact that he could control everything. So they went back to living in separate places.

I see myself being very similar. I want my own shit lol but at the same time if he offers to pay 100% of the rent/utilities/etc I'm not going to say no. But I damm sure would still have my own money because I wouldn't be able to go and ask him for money when I needed it. I'd do the cleaning, cooking, etc but because I suck at cooking and folding laundry he probably would want to do that himself. So if he wanted to do that too then I wouldn't say no. Now that's not to say that I wouldn't help pay for anything or clean/cook cuz I would help my man with whatever he needed.

I wouldn't want my man paying 100% of everything if that lead him to feeling stressed out and uptight. If he's moody and bitchy all the time then its gonna take a toll on the relationship and that means less sex, less cuddling, less me and him time and I ain't having that lol. So, if he could pay everything with ease then I'd let him but if he couldn't then I'd force him to let me help in some way.

I guess whether the man pay 100% or half depends on what our views are. If he pays 100% and thinks he can control me then its not going to work. If he pays 100% as just being a man who wants to provide for me then that's fine. All in all I don't expect a man to pay 100% of the rent/utilities or even dates. Everything just really depends on the situation, how we gel as a couple, and what our expectations/views are.

4everresolutions
10-17-2010, 04:38 PM
. Classic BPD symptoms, and a common mental illness amongst sex workers.

I wish you luck.

Lets not throw around mental illnesses here people. Borderline Personality is a serious disorder which is highly stigmatized and effects many people on this site. Using it as a form of slander does not help those here suffering.

I highly doubt Malayla has BPD.

Nuclear Martini
10-17-2010, 10:33 PM
Lets not throw around mental illnesses here people. Borderline Personality is a serious disorder which is highly stigmatized and effects many people on this site. Using it as a form of slander does not help those here suffering.

I highly doubt Malayla has BPD.


Hmmm.. I was thinking that stood for Bipolar

KaylaM
10-17-2010, 11:39 PM
Hmmm.. I was thinking that stood for Bipolar



Nope.

DesuvsDeath
10-18-2010, 02:33 PM
Malaya/Kalya: I made a mistake about you living with a man. The thread was long. Apologies for that. The rest I stand by 100%. You call everyone stupid and reading impaired. Seems like no one knows anything except for you. Classic BPD symptoms, and a common mental illness amongst sex workers.

I wish you luck.
The things you've listed aren't nearly enough evidence to even BEGIN to point to bpd... as those are all "symptoms" of a whole list of illnesses.
Your posts mentioning this are really offensive and seem very misinformed.

What were we talking about before that? Immigrants?
Idk. It's wrong to hire someone here illegally over a US worker... but on the other hand, if you have a job that needs done and there aren't capable workers who want to do it... it's not really taking jobs away from anyone.
It's not like people are sneaking into the country, tying up doctors and accountants in thier homes and then going into thier places of work and stealing their jobs.

xGigi
10-18-2010, 02:43 PM
I have two boyfriends (shhh...) I live with one of them and he pays our rent and utilities. he also makes way more than I do. he doesn't buy me things but he'll take me out once in a while if he has the money for it. our rent is pretty steep and I haven't offered to pay half so I don't complain when he doesn't want to go out. I moved in with him after he had leased the apartment so he figured if he was paying it before I moved in, he can pay it now.
my other boyfriend owns a house and also makes way more than I do. he's asked me to move in before (he doesn't know about my other boyfriend) and said he'd take care of me.

I think if I can find two capable men to take care of me any girl should be able to find ONE.

sidenote: don't ask how I wound up with two bfs it wasn't on purpose it just sort of happened...and no I don't feel bad. I'm evil.

Kellydancer
10-18-2010, 03:42 PM
The things you've listed aren't nearly enough evidence to even BEGIN to point to bpd... as those are all "symptoms" of a whole list of illnesses.
Your posts mentioning this are really offensive and seem very misinformed.

What were we talking about before that? Immigrants?
Idk. It's wrong to hire someone here illegally over a US worker... but on the other hand, if you have a job that needs done and there aren't capable workers who want to do it... it's not really taking jobs away from anyone.
It's not like people are sneaking into the country, tying up doctors and accountants in thier homes and then going into thier places of work and stealing their jobs.

Ok it's not that drastic but employers are bringing in people from other countries claiming they can't find workers. They do this because they can pay lower. While in theory it sounds fine, in reality it's wrong because they aren't even giving employees a chance to compete for these jobs. It's a big problem and a bigger problem than illegals stealing jobs.

DesuvsDeath
10-18-2010, 03:58 PM
Ok it's not that drastic but employers are bringing in people from other countries claiming they can't find workers. They do this because they can pay lower. While in theory it sounds fine, in reality it's wrong because they aren't even giving employees a chance to compete for these jobs. It's a big problem and a bigger problem than illegals stealing jobs.
I think that sometimes when companies say they "can't find workers" they mean that they can't find competant workers.
I worked at a call center (people always complain about not getting americans when they call those, right?) for a few weeks for some extra cash years and years ago before I started stripping... and aside from the occasional person who was in it for quick cash or because the hours were good for it being a second job... it seemed like the only people applying were people who couldn't get any other job.
After what I observed from the type of American workers who wanted that job (and were too stupid or lazy to do it once they got it)... it doesn't bother me when I call a company and the person who answers is foreign.
Certain jobs call for a large number of workers able to learn a few simple tasks and DO THEM without supervision. Let's face it. A large portion of the American population willing to work for $11 an hour... isn't going to do a DAMN thing when their supervisor isn't around.

Kellydancer
10-18-2010, 04:09 PM
I think that sometimes when companies say they "can't find workers" they mean that they can't find competant workers.
I worked at a call center (people always complain about not getting americans when they call those, right?) for a few weeks for some extra cash years and years ago before I started stripping... and aside from the occasional person who was in it for quick cash or because the hours were good for it being a second job... it seemed like the only people applying were people who couldn't get any other job.
After what I observed from the type of American workers who wanted that job (and were too stupid or lazy to do it once they got it)... it doesn't bother me when I call a company and the person who answers is foreign.
Certain jobs call for a large number of workers able to learn a few simple tasks and DO THEM without supervision. Let's face it. A large portion of the American population willing to work for $11 an hour... isn't going to do a DAMN thing when their supervisor isn't around.

That's the case in SOME instances but not always. Many professional jobs use H1-B visa holders instead of looking for a employee with that skill. I know many accountants out of work because of that and outsourcing. I too worked in a call center and it was pretty good money and it was before I started stripping. I did work with many stupid people doing that, but also worked with college students who did it so they didn't have to take out huge student loans.

Elvia
10-19-2010, 01:01 PM
I have two boyfriends (shhh...) I live with one of them and he pays our rent and utilities. he also makes way more than I do. he doesn't buy me things but he'll take me out once in a while if he has the money for it. our rent is pretty steep and I haven't offered to pay half so I don't complain when he doesn't want to go out. I moved in with him after he had leased the apartment so he figured if he was paying it before I moved in, he can pay it now.
my other boyfriend owns a house and also makes way more than I do. he's asked me to move in before (he doesn't know about my other boyfriend) and said he'd take care of me.

I think if I can find two capable men to take care of me any girl should be able to find ONE.

sidenote: don't ask how I wound up with two bfs it wasn't on purpose it just sort of happened...and no I don't feel bad. I'm evil.


Well that's rather sickening.

Again ladies, using and misleading the people you are supposed to care about isn't impressive or something to brag about. It is something to feel bad about, unless you're just a fucked up narcissist who only cares about themselves. In which case, I personally wish you would just keep it to yourself instead of needing to share your abusive tendencies as if it's just some delightful little anecdote. How lovely that you found two oblivious and trusting men to "take care of you." I guess some of us see men as actual people with feelings and lives and not just tools to be used and discarded.

Nothing really pisses me off like people bragging about mistreating their partners. It's not as cute or innocently quirky as some of you seem to think.

xGigi
10-19-2010, 01:15 PM
^okay and your point is? like I said, I'm evil. I'm a fucked up narcissist and I'll own that. I don't try to pretend that I'm not a narcissist so telling me that I am one REALLY doesn't bother me.

keep trotting along on that high horse of yours because honestly what you think has no effect on how I feel about my choices.

Elvia
10-19-2010, 01:21 PM
^^^ What's my point? My point is, find a shred of integrity and get some fucking help because you're a sick abuser! Christ! ::)

You're "evil?" Are you also 13? Because I think middle school was the last time I heard anyone say that to try to explain their total disregard for anyone else.

xGigi
10-19-2010, 01:46 PM
Am I 13? that's cute. no, really that was a brilliant response. it made me laugh.

as for the rest of your reply, I'm almost entirely apathetic because as you see I'm taking time to reply, however, I don't care enough to "get some fucking help".

You make me wonder what there is to gain from berating others on their lifestyle choices. Is it profitable in the strip club? perhaps I should get in on this...

Elvia
10-19-2010, 01:52 PM
LOL, being an abuser is not a "lifestyle choice" sweetheart. Good God.

And it may surprise you to know that it is possible to have other motivations in life besides getting money.

xGigi
10-19-2010, 01:56 PM
It may surprise you to know that written word isn't always to be taken literally. . . even in online forums.

I know text doesn't convey tone and sarcasm is a hard concept to grasp so I'll try to be more blunt for you, "sweetheart".

Elvia
10-19-2010, 02:06 PM
^^^ Then do enlighten me as to what I am misinterpreting, won't you? You've been defending your "lifestyle choice" of using and abusing people for awhile now, so I assume that's all accurate.

xGigi
10-19-2010, 02:15 PM
read. think. rinse. repeat. I have other things to do now. Good chat though

Elvia
10-19-2010, 02:17 PM
^^^ Awww, being deliberately vague to get out of a tight spot. Christ, you do have a lot of growing up to do if you don't think that's transparent.

tempest666
10-19-2010, 03:56 PM
I'm not taking anyone's side here in this latest episode of Total Drama Island. But we are predators, first and foremost. We walk into work and get in hunting mode. It's what we live for. Some of us stalk our prey in the club, some of us choose to do it outside of the club. I don't necessarily condone the deception of Gigi. But really, don't most of us lie with every breath we take at our job? We sell fantasies...if a customer chooses to buy into it, that's not our fault. Gigi merely carries the deception OTC.

Gigi, I wish you well, m'dear. Just be leery of these things because they do have a way of imploding in your face and you may find that you wind up with nothing. I'm saying this as someone who has been there and done that. It didn't end well for me. But it's something that you must find out on your own.

Elvia
10-19-2010, 04:17 PM
^^ There's a difference between being nice because you're in a customer service industry, and going out and forming "relationships" with people who you only plan to use and hurt. Quite a huge difference, actually.

Arialandre
10-19-2010, 04:17 PM
I think the difference is that inside the club men KNOW she is lieing. They come for the lie. While (I am simply specualting here as xGigi said the guys didn't know) her boyfriends aren't with her for the lie, they both assume they are in a healthy honest manogamous relationship. Kind of like the difference between... well let's say, having a threesome. So your partner is there you are experiencing it together, it's all out in the open. And cheating on your partner, lieing and sneaking about behind their back. Both scenarios have three people, but in one their is openness, honesty and everyone knows the score. In the second their is unfairness, lies and deciet.

So circumstance changes the situation. Even though many of the variables are the same.

*Please not that I am not taking sides of judging either party. I simply notices a bit of a flaw in your "hunter" logic that I thought might be an intersting point of view.

**Hey sorry Elvia, didn't mean to be redundant, you posted while I was still typing.

Elvia
10-19-2010, 04:23 PM
No, I think you said it better than I did, thank you. I'm sorry to add more drama to this thread. Maybe i should have just started a thread titled "If you like to habitually mistreat your partners please STFU about it." But that's kinda long. I see blues and pinks doing it and it gives me the heebie jeebies how people can be so "my partner doesn't know they're living a lie, teehee, I'm so evil!" I'm not sure how people expect that to be received but I don't think it's amusing to hear people talk about abuse and mistreatment in relationships like it's cute and fun. But this is the first time I've ever heard someone try to defend it as a "lifestyle choice." Simply being an asshole does not constitute a "lifestyle choice" IMO.

tempest666
10-19-2010, 04:38 PM
I learned from my choices that I made. I tried juggling 2 guys and it ended VERY badly for me. That's when I moved on to the "player" phase. No lying, no bullshit. I fucked who I wanted when I wanted. These kinds of situations don't last and it's something that Gigi will have to discover for herself.

Also keeping up the deceit 24/7 can take a toll on somebody. Eventually you slip up one tiny bit and your house of cards just collapses to the ground.

I'm not condoning deception or cheating, but having been on both sides of the fence I can say that people see what they want to see. I can say for certain that karma does bite back hard, usually by shoving a broomstick with no lube up your ass.

4everresolutions
10-19-2010, 04:45 PM
^ I've always wondered how women manage to juggle two men at once. I mean, I have my hands full with just the one guy!

And then living with a man you're dating, and dating another one on the side! How do you keep THAT secret? I'm more amazed at the difficulty of what Gigi is doing than the moral/ethics side of it. I mean, if you dance for a living too...it' would be like your constantly lying/playing ALL the men you're in contact with! Isn't that just exhausting?

I enjoy being completely honest and open with my guy - If I didn't have him to vent to, I'd explode! How does a women keep stuff like this a secret? *is truly mind boggled*.

tempest666
10-19-2010, 04:47 PM
Simply being an asshole does not constitute a "lifestyle choice" IMO.

Being an asshole is a flaw of character. I was a horrible asshole but I changed. It took getting off drugs and lots of soul searching to make me change. Am I still an asshole? You betcha. But I learned from my mistakes as I'm sure gigi will in the years to come.

Kisca
10-19-2010, 05:23 PM
I have two boyfriends (shhh...) I live with one of them and he pays our rent and utilities. he also makes way more than I do. he doesn't buy me things but he'll take me out once in a while if he has the money for it. our rent is pretty steep and I haven't offered to pay half so I don't complain when he doesn't want to go out. I moved in with him after he had leased the apartment so he figured if he was paying it before I moved in, he can pay it now.
my other boyfriend owns a house and also makes way more than I do. he's asked me to move in before (he doesn't know about my other boyfriend) and said he'd take care of me.

I think if I can find two capable men to take care of me any girl should be able to find ONE.

sidenote: don't ask how I wound up with two bfs it wasn't on purpose it just sort of happened...and no I don't feel bad. I'm evil.

If it wasnt on purpose, why string one along with you? You fucked two good guys up; by lying and cheaing. You're all to blame for your lying ways if this a mono-relationship. Its females like you who make good men shit after. That is degrading on so many levels.

Optimist
10-19-2010, 05:27 PM
I don't understand how we can expect to be treated as equals while demanding to be cared for as children.

We have the special risk of pregnancy and being out of the workforce for at least 2 years with pregnancy and breastfeeding, sleepless nights, etc. If the guy can't handle taking the slack now then why move in and increase your risk? You wanna know ahead of time that this guys is up to it.

KaylaM
10-19-2010, 06:12 PM
xGigi is admitting to doing what other ladies are doing and have been doing for years. Me? I am a fucking escort my boyfriend knows I fuck different men for money and have no problem with it. That. Is. Me. There are escorts that wouldn't dare tell their boyfriend or husbands they were escorts. So Why jump down her throat? Let her live her life the way she wants.. geesh! Who the fuck are we to judge? If she's happy then so be it. The drama on this fucking board is getting way out of hand. NONE OF YOU ARE BETTER THAN SHE IS AND STOP ACTING LIKE YOU ARE! Damn! I didn't know STRIPPERWEB was the board for Saints. I thought we all came here to speak openly/vent... etc... I mean c'mon you guys. This shit is ridiculous.

Wanna see FUcked up??? READ THE CONFESSION THREAD.. Alot of the shit there is "FUCKED UP". Go and do your intervention there. This was not the thread for all this crap.

Arialandre
10-19-2010, 06:39 PM
Ooo i havnt checked out the Confessions thread yet. Must go amuse myself :D *skips off gleefully*

tempest666
10-19-2010, 06:51 PM
Hey you know I don't judge... as long as she isn't sacraficing small fluffy animals or raping corpses I don't pass judgement on anyone. Her path in life is hers alone. My experience trying to juggle multiple men was bad. Am I still an asshole? Yes I am. I'm a work in progress. I'm an ex cocaine addict who is possibly pregnant when her boyfriend has 2 other kids with someone else.

I have massive inferiority issues and its hard for me to trust people sometimes.

Elvia
10-19-2010, 06:55 PM
xGigi is admitting to doing what other ladies are doing and have been doing for years. Me? I am a fucking escort my boyfriend knows I fuck different men for money and have no problem with it. That. Is. Me. There are escorts that wouldn't dare tell their boyfriend or husbands they were escorts. So Why jump down her throat? Let her live her life the way she wants.. geesh! Who the fuck are we to judge? If she's happy then so be it. The drama on this fucking board is getting way out of hand. NONE OF YOU ARE BETTER THAN SHE IS AND STOP ACTING LIKE YOU ARE! Damn! I didn't know STRIPPERWEB was the board for Saints. I thought we all came here to speak openly/vent... etc... I mean c'mon you guys. This shit is ridiculous.

Wanna see FUcked up??? READ THE CONFESSION THREAD.. Alot of the shit there is "FUCKED UP". Go and do your intervention there. This was not the thread for all this crap.


I really don't believe you would be saying this if it was a man bragging about misleading and mistreating women like that.

People are free to say what they want. But when someone starts being so glib and cheeky about being someone who mistreats their partners, I'm going to tell them how fucked up and repulsive that is. Because it is fucked up to go through life with no regard for others. It's sick when men do it and it's just as sick when women do it. Let's not act like it's just some personal choice that demands respect. Yeah, other people do it and it's fucked up to. If someone wants to do that, and be so open and cheerful and accepting of it, I don't think they really deserve to be protected from other people's very normal and healthy reaction to that.

MarvelGirl
10-19-2010, 07:00 PM
We have the special risk of pregnancy and being out of the workforce for at least 2 years with pregnancy and breastfeeding, sleepless nights, etc. If the guy can't handle taking the slack now then why move in and increase your risk? You wanna know ahead of time that this guys is up to it.

So that means we should treat men like pieces of shit who are good for nothing but buying us shiny things? Sorry but no. You can't claim to love someone and then treat them like a non-human ATM. That's not how it works.

I see women on this board all the time talking about how great they are and how men should be paying them for the joy of being in a "relationship with them, then they bitch when the same guy dumps them. duh.

Yes, a man who loves you should be able to pick up the slack when you're pregnant just like you should be able to see him as a human being with feelings who deserves love and respect just as much as you do.

If you can't do that, find yourself a doormat and stop pretending you're capable of love or just stay single. It's that simple.

KaylaM
10-19-2010, 07:02 PM
This site is just starting to annoy me. I see why we have lost several members. This shit is bullshit.

Temptest, You're a mess girl! Too funny!
Arial, Yeah go check it out.

Ladies post here about fucking their husbands best friend ALL THE TIME and everyone's like "That's hot" then this member posts and everyone starts jumping down her throat. That. IS. fUCKING. sickening. If the chick is not asking for help then why intervene? Gosh Damn! Some hypocritical shit going on here!

xGigi, Don't worry about it. You're getting "jumped" because you didn't post in the confessions thread. You will be more accepted there I promise ::) Seriously, Take what these people say with a grain of salt.

P.s Just for the record. Fucking your huband's bestfriend or friend really? Some people should be shot!

MarvelGirl
10-19-2010, 07:10 PM
Ladies post here about fucking their husbands best friend ALL THE TIME and everyone's like "That's hot"

Kayla, this is not directed at you because you're pretty honest about what you do and I respect that but it's something that I've noticed during my time in the industry and from browsing through this forum. It's not aimed at anyone in particular but it's getting to the point where the shit just isn't cute anymore.

I'm sick to death of strippers acting like stupid whores and then bitching because people think they're stupid whores.

"Oh boo hoo, why did I get dumped? I only fucked my boyfriend's brother and taped it and sent it to his mom!

"Why do the girls I go to school think I'm a whore? I only fuck everyone in school and suck off my teacher during class! Boo Hoo!"

"Oh, why does everyone hate me? I only act like a miserable bitch to everyone around me and demand that the entire universe treats me like a pretty, pretty princess while I use the shit out of them and rob them blind when they aren't looking! Boo hoo!"

No wonder people have such a low opinion of strippers and sex workers. Most of us deserve it by the looks of this forum.

Elvia
10-19-2010, 07:23 PM
P.s Just for the record. Fucking your huband's bestfriend or friend really? Some people should be shot!

Ok...so we should say nothing and withhold judgment when someone lies and cheats on their own partner...but people who sleep with their husbands friend should be shot?

KaylaM
10-19-2010, 07:24 PM
Ok...so we should say nothing and withhold judgment when someone lies and cheats on their own partner...but people who sleep with their husbands friend should be shot?

Dude.. Elvia, You did not get my post at all!!!!!!!

Seriously... You missed and you missed big time. Try again. I never said what she did was right!
Where did I say that?

KaylaM
10-19-2010, 07:28 PM
I will make this post because obviously some people don't get it.

I have a problem with members being praised for fucking their husband's friends and another member being attacked for dating two guys at once. NONE of it is right. It is WRONG but I guess it depends on where you post. Like I said.. this shit is bullshit.

Nuclear Martini
10-19-2010, 07:29 PM
Everyone should just shut up and go to law school because you are all really good at arguing :flower:

rubyredlipsss
10-19-2010, 07:31 PM
this thread has become downright embarrassing.

KaylaM
10-19-2010, 07:31 PM
Everyone should just shut up and go to law school because you are all really good at arguing :flower:

Yup.. I think I'd be a damn good Lawyer :)

Elvia
10-19-2010, 07:32 PM
No Kayla, to be honest I don't get your points anymore. You make weird irrelevant arguments like "there are escorts who don't tell their boyfriends and husbands that they sleep with other people" so therefore we shouldn't judge. Basically, "other people do it too." And? So?

I know you never said what she did was right. You said we shouldn't judge her. Then you go on to judge someone else for infidelity. Unless it was sarcasm? Sure doesn't seem to be much in the context to suggest that. So you're not just pointing out hypocrisy there, you're contributing to it at the same time. Which is confusing.

KaylaM
10-19-2010, 07:39 PM
^^^ No, I don't get your points anymore. You make weird irrelevant arguments like "there are escorts who don't ell their boyfriends and husbands that they sleep with other people" so therefore we shouldn't judge. Basically, "other people do it too."

I know you never said what she did was right. You said we shouldn't judge her. Then you go on to judge someone else for infidelity. Unless it was sarcasm? Sure doesn't seem to be much in the context to suggest that.

Elvia, Of course you won't get it. You're the most judgmental person on this site. You can go ahead and post what you want about me. A member that posted before me pm'd me on the subject.. and I was responding to her publicly she knows who she is and it had ALOT to do with the discussion but you're so closed minded you can't see how . I was never talking to you when I made that post so IT was not weird.. I think YOU are weird. I was never judging the ladies that sleep with their husbands friends I was saying it's wrong just like what Gigi is doing but yet members think "That is so HOT" on that thread that is why I told Gigi to go and post on that thread where she will be more accepted. Where such acts like this is OK. yes the ladies getting shot for sleeping with their husband was me being sarcastic.. But I thought You Elvia would be much smarter than that. I guess NOT! Learn to read in between the lines.

This was the post I made:


I am a fucking escort my boyfriend knows I fuck different men for money and have no problem with it. That. Is. Me. There are escorts that wouldn't dare tell their boyfriend or husbands they were escorts.

My point was let her live her life. Let people live their lives. If she wanted our help or advice she would have posted in the life support section but she didn't. I mean. .. come the fuck on.

Elvia
10-19-2010, 07:50 PM
Yes, I know you weren't talking to me directly...but this is an open forum. Why would you respond to a private pm on a forum? Yeah, that actually is weird. Don't respond to a PM on the message board and then complain that others don't understand the context. That's bizarre. Just another example of how your posts just don't make much sense to me anymore. *shrug*

KaylaM
10-19-2010, 07:52 PM
Yes, I know you weren't talking to me directly...but this is an open forum. Why would you respond to a private pm on a forum? Yeah, that actually is weird. Don't respond to a PM on the message board and then complain that others don't understand the context. That's bizarre. Just another example of how your posts just don't make much sense to me anymore. *shrug*

Please read it again. I am starting to think you don't have a brain. I posted my "point".. go ahead and read it and read all the posts carefully this time. If you don't get it then I am sorry that you don't understand it.

Elvia
10-19-2010, 07:57 PM
Maybe I am one of the more judgmental people here. But frankly, that surprise me, since I've never really encountered an environment where people where people gleefully bragged about screwing over people they pretend to care about, using them for money, having no regard for others...let alone an environment where THAT was supposed to be quietly respected as some sort of personal choice people are entitled to. Just here. Which makes me wonder what I've always been too afraid to say until Marvelgirl just did- that sometimes, the things people post on this site make me wonder if there is more truth to the stripper stereotype than I've been willing to acknowledge. Which is really, really sad and frustrating.

KaylaM
10-19-2010, 07:59 PM
But what the fuck do you expect? Are you REALLY that surprised about strippers using men?? Ummm...I am not. The fucking the husband's friend was much more shocking to me. I will be lying if I said I haven't used men before... I couldn't do that now. I enjoy making men happy... Others rather piss them off..I understand that. :)

Elvia
10-19-2010, 08:00 PM
Please read it again. I am starting to think you don't have a brain. I posted my "point".. go ahead and read it and read all the posts carefully this time. If you don't get it then I am sorry that you don't understand it.

Yeah, I got your point for the last fucking time Kayla. But my point is that you put out the same shit you complain about. I may be pretty frank and maybe even aggressive at times...but you complain about the aggressiveness and the judgmental responses in ways that are often equally or more aggressive. Which ultimately does not serve your point.

Elvia
10-19-2010, 08:03 PM
But what the fuck do you expect? Are you REALLY that suprised about strippers using men?? Ummm...

Yeah, because I acknowlege that my job of providing a fantasy in a clear fantasy environment does not give me license to manipulate and toy with people whenever I damn well feel like it. I would have thought most adult women were capable of understanding that. Apparently, I might have been wrong.

KaylaM
10-19-2010, 08:04 PM
Yeah, I got your point for the last fucking time Kayla. But my point is that you put out the same shit you complain about. I may be pretty frank and maybe even aggressive at times...but you complain about the aggressiveness and the judgmental responses in ways that are often equally or more aggressive. Which ultimately does not serve your point.

Oh my gosh. :O

Elvia
10-19-2010, 08:06 PM
^^^ Did I shock you?