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shasta
11-11-2010, 03:05 AM
When I was in Aus, i found tipping far less common than in the states. The stage tipping was great though!

jack0177057
11-11-2010, 10:09 AM
Yup, just for a drink :)

$45-$50 for just 1 drink or several drinks?

How much are the lap dances there?

xGigi
11-11-2010, 10:21 AM
I ALWAYS say thank you... Unfortunately that only gets you so far.. But yes, I agree that I should start asking for a tip. Sometimes after a few drinks I will get ballsy and ask for them.

Good! I see a lot of girls who act really stuck up and just walk away when the dance is over. I'm happy some girls still have manners

kitinboots
11-11-2010, 10:50 AM
$45-$50 for just 1 drink or several drinks?

How much are the lap dances there?

Just one drink. A 1 song topless dance is €30, and a nude private dance is €60. VIP starts at €375 for 20 minutes. You pretty much double the number to get the amount in dollars I think.

jack0177057
11-11-2010, 11:42 AM
^ Wow, no wonder Spain is broke!

Does that mean a dancer that makes $90k/yr in the US would make about $180k/yr in Europe? Or, does the higher rates translate to lesser volume?

Are these rates for a regular SC or are they for an upscale SC?

Casual Observer
11-11-2010, 11:52 AM
Where I danced, for the most part, it just pissed guy off and you could be assured to never get more dances with him if you even asked.

Exactly. Asking is just crass.

If I've been spending time with the dancer and have already dropped some money on her, I'll ask (if I don't already know) what the club's cut is per dance, and make a compensatory offering.

But coming out and just asking guarantees I won't spend on you during my next visit.

Pure
11-11-2010, 01:39 PM
^^^ that's one of the things I actually do like about working in Vegas. I will never see 97% of customers ever again so I don't worry about running into this. I ask away! Although I can usually spot the guys who share Casual's sentiments in which case I don't bother

kitinboots
11-11-2010, 02:32 PM
^ Wow, no wonder Spain is broke!

Does that mean a dancer that makes $90k/yr in the US would make about $180k/yr in Europe? Or, does the higher rates translate to lesser volume?

Are these rates for a regular SC or are they for an upscale SC?

Nah cause everything works different here. We only sell a dances one at a time for the most part, not in bunches of 4 or 5, and cost of living is higher.
We don't make more money, it just sounds like it. If you can make $90k in the US it probably amounts to €50k here.

jester214
11-12-2010, 01:03 PM
Just one drink. A 1 song topless dance is €30, and a nude private dance is €60. VIP starts at €375 for 20 minutes. You pretty much double the number to get the amount in dollars I think.

It's not double right now... Though it's been close before. Euro is something like 1.3 times so it would be around $510. British Pounds would be more like $600.

Numbers like that keep me out of Europe for the time being...

kitinboots
11-13-2010, 12:46 AM
It's not double right now... Though it's been close before. Euro is something like 1.3 times so it would be around $510. British Pounds would be more like $600.

Numbers like that keep me out of Europe for the time being...

I can never remember whether to think in pounds or euros...

Its odd because its expensive here, but you earn more so it kind of evens out I guess. I tend to base my comparisions on the price of a Maccy D's (about €6.50 for a regular cheeseburger meal here). Its something we call 'stripper science' and it includes stroking and sweettalking your TV to make it work :D

jester214
11-13-2010, 01:58 AM
I tend to base my comparisions on the price of a Maccy D's (about €6.50 for a regular cheeseburger meal here).

That's awesome! ;D

crillin
11-18-2010, 11:12 PM
Here is an example of my latest adventure in a Montreal strip club where the dances are $15/dance.

First dancer:

We agreed that it would be 2 dances at the standard rate. After the first song I confirmed with her our first song was done. Halfway through the second song she said it would be $50 at the end of it. I questioned her saying that the second song wasn't even done and on top of that it should be $30 for both dances. She then replies well that's including tip!! You could imagine my reaction, I was pissed. I told her I'm only giving you $35 and we are done. She negotiated to $40 whining that nobody was buying dances from her (gee I wonder why). I held firm at $35, paid her and left.

Second dancer:

We agreed it would be 1 dance at $15. She was fantastic and not once gave me attitude. At the end of the first song she even confirmed with me that the first song was over. I enjoyed it so much I told her to keep going for 2 more songs! At the end, I paid her $65 ($20 dollar tip) and she was nice enough to even give me a hug and thank you.

Moral of the story ladies....please don't treat your customers like ATMs (even though they might be lol) and DO NOT try to up-sell or rip-off your customers. You'll get a lot more mileage out of them not to mention they'll probably send some of their friends your way.

charlie61
11-19-2010, 09:16 AM
Here is an example of my latest adventure in a Montreal strip club where the dances are $15/dance.

First dancer:

We agreed that it would be 2 dances at the standard rate. After the first song I confirmed with her our first song was done. Halfway through the second song she said it would be $50 at the end of it. I questioned her saying that the second song wasn't even done and on top of that it should be $30 for both dances. She then replies well that's including tip!! You could imagine my reaction, I was pissed. I told her I'm only giving you $35 and we are done. She negotiated to $40 whining that nobody was buying dances from her (gee I wonder why). I held firm at $35, paid her and left.

Second dancer:

We agreed it would be 1 dance at $15. She was fantastic and not once gave me attitude. At the end of the first song she even confirmed with me that the first song was over. I enjoyed it so much I told her to keep going for 2 more songs! At the end, I paid her $65 ($20 dollar tip) and she was nice enough to even give me a hug and thank you.

Moral of the story ladies....please don't treat your customers like ATMs (even though they might be lol) and DO NOT try to up-sell or rip-off your customers. You'll get a lot more mileage out of them not to mention they'll probably send some of their friends your way.

I was with you up until you told us not to upsell. Without upselling, I'd be walking out with very little money most nights! It is our job to upsell. Obviously there are tactful ways to upsell, and tacky ways to upsell. But you'd have to be a moron not to do that in this business.

bem401
11-19-2010, 11:14 AM
Moral of the story ladies....please don't treat your customers like ATMs (even though they might be lol) and DO NOT try to up-sell or rip-off your customers. You'll get a lot more mileage out of them not to mention they'll probably send some of their friends your way.

Actually, the moral of the story is not showing them that they are no more than an ATM. If they get a guy back in VIP, the least important thing should be whether it takes 2, 3, or 4 songs (in other words, 6, 9, or 12 minutes) to pocket $50, especially in slow times like the present.

crillin
11-19-2010, 10:25 PM
I was with you up until you told us not to upsell. Without upselling, I'd be walking out with very little money most nights! It is our job to upsell. Obviously there are tactful ways to upsell, and tacky ways to upsell. But you'd have to be a moron not to do that in this business.

Maybe in this case, upsell is not the right word. I understand it is your job to try to get as many guys back into the VIP room and have no problem with this. My problem is if you agree to a price with a client for say $15 dollar dance but then bring him/her to another area of the club where it is more for a dance but fail to mention that to them, this I have an issue with. Basically all I'm saying is if you girls want a little respect, give a little respect.

AmyLynne
11-20-2010, 03:59 PM
No offense but its how we make a living! Its how I pay my mortgage, my car insurance and for my daughter! So Im going to get everything I can from you. In return I adjust my dances and shows for the amount of money tipped to me.



Maybe in this case, upsell is not the right word. I understand it is your job to try to get as many guys back into the VIP room and have no problem with this. My problem is if you agree to a price with a client for say $15 dollar dance but then bring him/her to another area of the club where it is more for a dance but fail to mention that to them, this I have an issue with. Basically all I'm saying is if you girls want a little respect, give a little respect.

KS_Stevia
11-20-2010, 04:27 PM
In clubs where girls get money for drinks, there is often the "hostess" vibe where the cost of the drink will allow her to stay and flirt with you for a while. Its an old school remnant when lapdances were illegal and the only way you could get a girl to stay with you is buying her drinks.

In almost any clubs that have a hustle or "wanna dance" vibe, the girls aren't making money on drinks. Don't be offended if that's part of the club's business structure, the girls aren't trying to pull a fast one on you.

Jack, I've never been to or worked at a club in Texas that had a drink hustle. Sometimes the girls just like fancy drinks. I've always been the kind to just order a Dewars and water. Not as cheap as a well drink, but not a fru-fru either. Low calorie and a nice mild buzz. No commission. That's Texas.

xGigi
11-22-2010, 09:06 AM
I would never include the price of my tip in the total cost of the dances because I don't HAVE a set price for a tip. like I said before, even if a customer wants to tip me like...a dollar...I'm fine with that.

the dancer who expected a 20 dollar tip for two 15 dollar dances is an idiot. I've had guys tip me less than 20 dollars for a 200 dollar champagne room. it's up to the customer what he wants to tip you that's why it's a TIP not a fee.

the best way to get tips for dances is to ASK for one at the end of the dance and don't bitch about whatever the guy gives you. if you get tipped 5 bucks for each dance you do and you get 10 dances all night that's an extra 50 bucks which is what you would make in a shift if you had a regular minimum wage job.

pootcacti
11-27-2010, 03:59 AM
I dont tip after dances, sorry. I think this issues is what makes some guys cheap in the first place. If a guy enters a stripclub and wants some dances and is thinking "shit i better not get one because she always asks for tips later" its gonna make the guy not want a dance. Just my opinion. I do tip on stage tho, every song. Just not for dances.

xGigi
11-27-2010, 02:05 PM
ok so I see that a lot of guys here think that it's annoying when a stripper asks for a tip at the end of the dance, which I understand, but I'd like to mention the fact that some guys are happy to tip their favorite dancer. they just don't know if they should or not.

a lot of times when I say "you can tip me if you want to" the guy says "of course!"

I personally, don't expect any specific amount for a tip. when a guy asks "well how much should I tip you?" I say "whatever you want!"

if you get a dancer who expects to be tipped like 10 dollars after a 20 dollar dance, well that's just a little silly.

if you enjoyed your dance though and you enjoy the dancer's looks and personality, why not give her an extra dollar or two? the clubs take big cuts from our profits and the house fees get higher and higher. with the economy right now more and more girls show up at the strip club looking for jobs and adding more competition. a lot of us are going to school or have kids so instead of automatically assuming a dancer is greedy for asking for a tip, maybe consider that she might need the money. tipping a dollar or two after each dance won't break your bank and those dollars really add up for us dancers.

crillin
11-28-2010, 12:18 AM
xGigi,

After some thought from my recent SC experience I would agree with you it doesn't hurt to ask. I can see it from your point of view that some guys would be unsure whether to tip or not.

I think the important thing to remember is to have the right attitude when asking your customer for a tip. Phrasing it this way.."you can tip me if you want to" is a great way to ask and I can see why it works for you. It leaves the ball in the customer's court and people are more giving if they don't feel pressured.

EbbySmiles
12-06-2010, 11:35 AM
Ok according to the laws of state of Texas anything the customer gives the entertainer is considered a tip. While the suggested base tip is set according to the club the agreement is set between the customer and the entertainer. But the club nor the entertainer can force the customer to give the tip as it is a tip. Now in Texas all my earnings are mine with the exception of the house fees, tips I pay the dj and manager. I think of the first two dances I do as the clubs dances all the rest are mine. With that being said if you have truly enjoyed the company of your entertainer then show her this. This encourages her to continue to provide good service. It is hard to do this if she makes an hell of effort and all she get in return is drink or food. At this job she should make more than she would have at a fast food job.