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ArmySGT.
11-05-2010, 08:55 PM
Perhaps this thread would have been better suited for Customer Conversation.

Why do yo say that? This wasn't a stripping related thread. I intended a tongue in cheek "Hey you know he's bad dump him" kind thread which is all about Life Support.

i can see where my writings have been misconstrued, I am no great author.

ArmySGT.
11-05-2010, 09:03 PM
In all honesty, I really don't think he meant to get up under everyones skin. Exactly


This is a place to vent like someone else said..so maybe this is his lil way of venting about all the girls that gripe about their men. Exactly, If we made light of it a bit, maybe some girls would step back, and see these losers for what they are, then dump the worthless parasites.


Not saying he is right or wrong or even the girls that complain about thier men are right or wrong. BUT he did say it was a perspective so therefore I think he has the right to say it. Just like probably half, if not more, of the custies in a strip club probably think the dancers are whores..it's is a perspective..doesn't mean it's is for sure factual. geez think of the response if I was a Republican.

_Avery_
11-05-2010, 09:04 PM
This is like my favorite thread on SW right now, I'm LOLing so hard. :D

I have nothing to contribute....sorry. :P

Army, you're on a roll in here LOL

ArmySGT.
11-05-2010, 09:04 PM
Hey don't bust on us WoWers. ;)
Speaking of People that don't get much sunlight.;)

Christany
11-05-2010, 09:05 PM
Why do yo say that? This wasn't a stripping related thread. I intended a tongue in cheek "Hey you know he's bad dump him" kind thread which is all about Life Support.

i can see where my writings have been misconstrued, I am no great author.

Well, looking at the descriptions of the categories, it seems it would be more relevant to CC since it's more of a rant vs. you needing support for something:

Customer Conversation (15 Viewing)
Customers ask dancers questions here. All other customer-related topics belong here.

Life Support (17 Viewing)
Want to talk about your family life, home drama, kids, significant others? Talk it over here!

I can see where you were going with it, but you know as well as anyone that it's been a drama fest up in here. (the BW thread :-X). Maybe once things settle down and people are allowed to get a day without drama, then it will cool off.

ArmySGT.
11-05-2010, 09:07 PM
^^^Surely we aern't talking about the same WoW? You don't need an exit strategy from WoW.
You just keep playing. And charge men realy money to watch you on webcam while you play. And charge in game gold/all the titanium ore a JC could ever want to talk to you in vent. "Sure. If you go mine for me... I'll sit in vent with you."

And torment people trying to level in Ice Crown while you're in ICC every week with your 25m by typing back and forth with that OTHER guild that does their 25m at the same time... all in the general chat channel. (My guild... we troll even while raiding)


Feminine charms...... A massively unfair advantage in MMORPGs. :D

_Avery_
11-05-2010, 09:07 PM
I can see where you were going with it, but you know as well as anyone that it's been a drama fest up in here. (the BW thread :-X). Maybe once things settle down and people are allowed to get a day without drama, then it will cool off.

A day without drama is like a day without sunshine...
I dunno, something like that. :P

ArmySGT.
11-05-2010, 09:08 PM
This is like my favorite thread on SW right now, I'm LOLing so hard. :D

I have nothing to contribute....sorry. :P

Army, you're on a roll in here LOL

*high fives*

Its my thread and I am fucking sticking to it! ;D

Christany
11-05-2010, 09:09 PM
A day without drama is like a day without sunshine...
I dunno, something like that. :P

lol, dude that sounds like a song title. Have I told you that I loved you today?

_Avery_
11-05-2010, 09:12 PM
lol, dude that sounds like a song title. Have I told you that I loved you today?

lmfao, I'm desperately trying to think of song lyrics right now
Omg, it's Friday night and I'm SW trying to think of song lyrics to a post LOL

JayATee
11-05-2010, 09:24 PM
Speaking of People that don't get much sunlight.;)

I'm a vampire. The sun and I aren't great friends to begin with, but at least I don't sparkle. ;)

ArmySGT.
11-05-2010, 09:25 PM
A day without drama is like a day without sunshine...
I dunno, something like that. :P
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j218/ArmySGT_photos/Makes%20me%20laugh/bad%20post%20or%20thread/0112_dramallama01.jpg

Kellydancer
11-05-2010, 09:27 PM
That's the retro evolutional distraction I am speaking out against. Shouldn't be tolerated but they are. The mental gymnastics that are vaulted through to make excuses for these sub par ingrates frankly astounds me.

Unfortunately this isn't just dancers or even just women. Just reading the taking care of women thread shows that some women can use men just as much as men use women. I've known women who dated these losers. I have a friend (actually former friend at this point) who is so afraid of being alone she's dated a string of losers. Her husband doesn't work and sits on his butt all day while she works 40 hours then comes home to coke and clean. Her excuse is it's "womens work". While she was a stripper (I got her into the business and which I hadn't) she was like this before and after she left the industry. I have another friend who never stripped yet had loser boyfriends too.

I think part of the reason is because as women we are told we should always have a man and should take whatever we can. Many women only meet losers so this is all they meet. I've been told to change my moral views and date guys who don't fit what I want (never married no kids guys) or I'll "be alone". Women who are single after a certain time are ostracized as spinsters or hags or cat ladies. Women are presured to marry. I know men get it too but a single man is considered more desirable than a single woman, especially as we age. All of it sounds far fetched but it all boils down to the idea that women need any man while a man can take whatever he wants. This is why on online dating sites I've seen the trashiest losers expect the best whereas when women are picky we are called names.

We need to fix this by accepting single women more. Not assuming because a woman is single she is a lesbian (I've gotten this). Basically accepting women no matter what. Allowing her to have the same choices as men.

ArmySGT.
11-05-2010, 09:27 PM
I'm a vampire. The sun and I aren't great friends to begin with, but at least I don't sparkle. ;)

You will always sparkle for me! }:D

You miss are awesome! Stay Awesome!

What happened to that my boyfriend is soooooo awesome thread? There actually is one by the way. probably on page 20 or something.

shaebabii
11-05-2010, 09:35 PM
ArmySGT.............I like how you post!! I love how when everybody comes at you...you just kinda roll w/ it!! =) lmao We need more posters like you instead of all these peeps that wear their heart on their sleeve!!

_Avery_
11-05-2010, 09:37 PM
I'm a vampire. The sun and I aren't great friends to begin with, but at least I don't sparkle. ;)

lmao, Really? WTF kinda vampire SPARKLES?!
Obviously not the bad ass, dark, blood thirty ones...right? :P

/threadjacking!! Sorry!

ArmySGT.
11-05-2010, 09:41 PM
I'm a vampire. The sun and I aren't great friends to begin with, but at least I don't sparkle. ;)

With your cream colored skin and dark tresses, I would fill a room with a thousand candles to watch you dance in the flickering light.

shaebabii
11-05-2010, 09:43 PM
^^hmm i just got a mental picture and FYI...it looks REALLY HOT!! I have a major THING for vampires...and Michael Myers but we won't go into that one ;)

yogibear179
11-05-2010, 09:46 PM
love it

JayATee
11-05-2010, 09:47 PM
lmao, Really? WTF kinda vampire SPARKLES?!
Obviously not the bad ass, dark, blood thirty ones...right? :P

/threadjacking!! Sorry!

Haha, the wanna be vamps in the Twilight saga sparkle in the sunlight. I've long said Dracula turned over in his grave when that story came out!


With your cream colored skin and dark tresses, I would fill a room with a thousand candles to watch you dance in the flickering light.

Aww, I adore candlelight too. ;)

Djoser
11-05-2010, 11:18 PM
This forum is supposed to be for support & giving advice... not making judgment calls about other people's lives...

Very true. Too bad the ones who always love to dish it out can never seem to take it when it's served back up to them. No sympathy from me on that score.

Kylea2
11-05-2010, 11:50 PM
^^^^ Not sure how to read that.


ArmySGT, I have to admit that I was in my kitchen today thinking about this thread. I had this (insert sarcasm) genius idea (/end sarcasm) that what we need is a "break-up flowchart". So I researched this & guess what? There's a flow chart for divorces, one to break up with your girlfriend, & one on if you should break up with you girlfriend (http://www.manolith.com/2009/06/15/the-most-brilliant-flowchart-ever-to-find-out-if-you-should-break-up-with-your-girlfriend/).

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/kyleakilleen/Stripperweb/BreakUp-Flowchart.jpg



http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/kyleakilleen/Stripperweb/divorce-flowchart.jpg


Why though is there not one made specifically for women? Possibly because the majority of women don't want to make things simple. Yes, I said it. Ironically, one of my best female friends said exactly that last line over dinner tonight... & it's true for so many! They want to get into all the dirty details, complicate things & feel bad if they leave. It's possibly because like Kelly stated - women are continuously made to feel guilty about being single or leaving. We keep thinking we can't grow old alone, which makes leaving hard, but in the end they still know that should do it.

Sigh, now I'm tempted to make a break-up flow chart for women!

ArmySGT.
11-06-2010, 12:14 AM
^^^^ Not sure how to read that.
Me either clear as mud.


ArmySGT, I have to admit that I was in my kitchen today thinking about this thread. I had this (insert sarcasm) genius idea (/end sarcasm) that what we need is a "break-up flowchart". It’s the spaghetti squash again isn’t it. I am jealous of a gourd if said gourd has all your attentions.


So I researched this & guess what? There's a flow chart for divorces, one to break up with your girlfriend, & . LOL! This is awesome. Yes you should absolutely write one for the Woman to break up. Brilliant!

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/kyleakilleen/Stripperweb/BreakUp-Flowchart.jpg

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/kyleakilleen/Stripperweb/divorce-flowchart.jpg


Why though is there not one made specifically for women? Possibly because the majority of women don't want to make things simple. Yes, I said it. Ironically, one of my best female friends said exactly that last line over dinner tonight... & it's true for so many! They want to get into all the dirty details, complicate things & feel bad if they leave. It's possibly because like Kelly stated - women are continuously made to feel guilty about being single or leaving. We keep thinking we can't grow old alone, which makes leaving hard, but in the end they still know that should do it.

Sigh, now I'm tempted to make a break-up flow chart for women!

Consider all the things Men call romantic and all the things Women call romantic. You can count up all the things Men need to feel romantic and have fingers left over.

There is a lot of pressure for everyone to be a couple. It is an expectation, a social one that has not yet caught up with our times. Men are made to feel guilty or atleast my father does but he is much older than the regular Father – Son relationships. Even though he has great grand children from my Brothers (25 years older!) I am failing by not bring him Grand kids. I just smile and tell him next year….

Of course there is my standard answer to “Do you have any kids”. I say “Well been to a lot of countries, if I do they are small, brown, and don’t speak English.”

Kylea2
11-06-2010, 12:47 AM
Men are made to feel guilty or atleast my father does but he is much older than the regular Father – Son relationships. Even though he has great grand children from my Brothers (25 years older!) I am failing by not bring him Grand kids. I just smile and tell him next year….


You know what's funny? I've NEVER had a family member pressure me about kids or marriage. As a matter of fact my biological mother did just the opposite - never cared... & why should she? I'm the youngest of her children or step children. We never bonded because she went through menopause right after having me. She already has 10 grand children, so she couldn't have cared less what I did... even if that included falling off a cliff. My father is totally clueless about my life, at 22 he literally thought I was 17. Yes, the years slip by when you aren't there for birthdays, high school graduations, college graduations, etc. My father & stepmother have 5 grandchildren & 3 or 4 great grandchildren. My nieces are now old enough they are having children, scary huh? So my family is pretty much like "whatever". We don't really talk these days. HUGE family when you include all the stepchildren & kids adopted in/out, but I'm not close to anyone. I talk to my dad once every few months. My mom & I go periods where we don't talk for years, & I never hear from my siblings even when I've pressed for contact. Maybe it's all for the better though.

I think I put more stress on myself by simply knowing that the social & government systems are so messed up that the way to have the highest probability of someone caring about/for you when you are old is to have children. Otherwise you risk the chance of ending up in a nursing home that you HOPE your social security & retirement will cover, only to PRAY that you are treated right... I think that is the biggest fear - dying alone or being mistreated because no one cares. I better hope that I either die young of something that isn't painful, or else I maintain my body well enough to live independently until I die! Maybe women worry about that sort of thing more than men?

Then again, I'm a typical capricorn... I really want family & I guess in some ways there's just that worry that it won't ever happen. The thing is though, you have to keep pushing on or you waste what you do have, which for me is a great career!

Kellydancer
11-06-2010, 11:27 AM
You know what's funny? I've NEVER had a family member pressure me about kids or marriage. As a matter of fact my biological mother did just the opposite - never cared... & why should she? I'm the youngest of her children or step children. We never bonded because she went through menopause right after having me. She already has 10 grand children, so she couldn't have cared less what I did... even if that included falling off a cliff. My father is totally clueless about my life, at 22 he literally thought I was 17. Yes, the years slip by when you aren't there for birthdays, high school graduations, college graduations, etc. My father & stepmother have 5 grandchildren & 3 or 4 great grandchildren. My nieces are now old enough they are having children, scary huh? So my family is pretty much like "whatever". We don't really talk these days. HUGE family when you include all the stepchildren & kids adopted in/out, but I'm not close to anyone. I talk to my dad once every few months. My mom & I go periods where we don't talk for years, & I never hear from my siblings even when I've pressed for contact. Maybe it's all for the better though.

I think I put more stress on myself by simply knowing that the social & government systems are so messed up that the way to have the highest probability of someone caring about/for you when you are old is to have children. Otherwise you risk the chance of ending up in a nursing home that you HOPE your social security & retirement will cover, only to PRAY that you are treated right... I think that is the biggest fear - dying alone or being mistreated because no one cares. I better hope that I either die young of something that isn't painful, or else I maintain my body well enough to live independently until I die! Maybe women worry about that sort of thing more than men?

Then again, I'm a typical capricorn... I really want family & I guess in some ways there's just that worry that it won't ever happen. The thing is though, you have to keep pushing on or you waste what you do have, which for me is a great career!

You are very lucky never to have been pressured. My family has been pressuring me for years but as of the last few years have pressured less because "why bother, you'll never marry". My family thinks it's funny to say "old maid" is my card game. My grandmother started pressuring me around 20 or so and warned me about being a spinster. At 20 I had a boyfriend I thought I wanted to marry but would be divorced now had I done that (he's since been married 3 times with two kids). I wasn't anywhere close to being ready until about 30 and even then it was one of those if I do I do. I will admit though it is frustrating being the only single one in my family. All of my cousins are married, and every single one is younger. I'm seeing people considerably younger getting married and people just assume I'll never marry because of the stats (which by the way are a myth). Not to mention I am treated as less of a person because I'm single. I've even had instances where people have tried to put me at the kiddie table because I'm single (this is why I rarely attend family events). My parents pressure but not as bad as my other relatives. Oh and all of my relatives tell me I am still single because I'm picky. By picky they mean I should take any guy, including ones with many kids, no job and a slob.

I really do want a family but refuse to just marry anyone or just have kids with anyone. This is why we see so many divorced people with kids, because they settled. I could be married now, including to the guy I want who wanted me years ago. I feel in my heart I will end up with the guy I want (who admitted to me while drunk one time he really wants to have a family with me). Of course I may not, and yes there is a possibility I'll end up alone. I'm also lucky because I have a niece and I'll be able to use some of my maternal instincts towards her. This is why I try to worry about other things and push it aside because most people do end up married eventually (I've read 90%). I've known the most anti marriage people ever who got married. I know so many people who've gotten married in their 30's and 40's and even older. Several former coworkers all married in their 40's.

firemaiden04
11-06-2010, 11:49 AM
I can't imagine anyone in my family pressuring me for kids or marriage. My family is pretty sane, when it comes down to it. They never really get emotional about anything.

tempest666
11-06-2010, 11:59 AM
I like the vampire part better >:(...I wish I was pale. I'm medium skin tone but I do everything I can to avoid sunlight. I wanted to lighten my skin but he won't let me.

Kellydancer
11-06-2010, 12:06 PM
I can't imagine anyone in my family pressuring me for kids or marriage. My family is pretty sane, when it comes down to it. They never really get emotional about anything.

My parents are relatively sane so they pressure but not too bad. My grandparents do but that's mainly because they are older and that's to be expected (they are mid-late 80's). My relatives on my dad's side should know better but they don't. None of them are overly ambitious either and don't understand why I went to college and graduate school instead of looking for a husband. My aunt was talking about this lady she worked with who had a baby at an "old" age only to find out the old age was 36. Another relative then said "I'm surprised she could have a baby that old". I had to speak up and say 36 isn't old, and yes 36 (and for that matter many women in their 40's) can still have babies. I often avoid this side because they think that I am an old maid that no one would want. I can see it now, I get married and that side saying "doesn't she know she's too old to have babies?".

Kylea2
11-06-2010, 07:00 PM
^^^^ My mom was 36 when she had me. My main concern has been not repeating her mistake of having children so close to menopause, since I think that's why we didn't bond.

Kellydancer
11-06-2010, 09:18 PM
^^^^ My mom was 36 when she had me. My main concern has been not repeating her mistake of having children so close to menopause, since I think that's why we didn't bond.

That's actually early for menopause but I've heard of women even younger going through it. That is my biggest fear that I'll go through it before I am ready to have kids. When I get money again I am going to check into freezing my eggs because this is a fear. Then I think and remember my grandmothers all had later babies and there's always adoption. This is why I monitor my menstrual periods and any changes (luckily no change yet so I know I'm not even premenopause).

Kylea2
11-06-2010, 09:32 PM
That's actually early for menopause but I've heard of women even younger going through it. That is my biggest fear that I'll go through it before I am ready to have kids. When I get money again I am going to check into freezing my eggs because this is a fear. Then I think and remember my grandmothers all had later babies and there's always adoption. This is why I monitor my menstrual periods and any changes (luckily no change yet so I know I'm not even premenopause).

I think she hit menopause around the time I was 5 or 6. Since she worked outside the home, & I was so young, I don't remember much before then. I know by the time I was 7 she was in menopause though... so she would have been about 43.

I had thought about adopting. Honestly it's pretty reasonable given personal health issues & the fact that at this point I don't want to have to worry about stretch mark, loose skin, & weight gain that could ruin my career... especially since I'm already older. It's not like my body is going to spring back like a woman in her teens or mid 20's.

Even if a person adopts or freezes her eggs for a surrogate, there still is the chance that an older mother could go through menopause & not "connect" correctly just because of the raging hormones.

I'm almost thinking that for me fostering children after I retire from dancing may be the solution. At least that would give me the opportunity to provide something really positive to children in need. I know many of them are grateful & stay in touch with their foster parents, especially older ones.

Sigh, as I write this my mother just sent out a mass e-mail which I received with all the family Halloween pictures, her & all the kids with grandchildren. She doesn't call, doesn't direct email, & never responds to anything... yet she still finds ways to upset me.

Kellydancer
11-06-2010, 09:48 PM
I think she hit menopause around the time I was 5 or 6. Since she worked outside the home, & I was so young, I don't remember much before then. I know by the time I was 7 she was in menopause though... so she would have been about 43.

I had thought about adopting. Honestly it's pretty reasonable given personal health issues & the fact that at this point I don't want to have to worry about stretch mark, loose skin, & weight gain that could ruin my career... especially since I'm already older. It's not like my body is going to spring back like a woman in her teens or mid 20's.

Even if a person adopts or freezes her eggs for a surrogate, there still is the chance that an older mother could go through menopause & not "connect" correctly just because of the raging hormones.

I'm almost thinking that for me fostering children after I retire from dancing may be the solution. At least that would give me the opportunity to provide something really positive to children in need. I know many of them are grateful & stay in touch with their foster parents, especially older ones.

Sigh, as I write this my mother just sent out a mass e-mail which I received with all the family Halloween pictures, her & all the kids with grandchildren. She doesn't call, doesn't direct email, & never responds to anything... yet she still finds ways to upset me.

I'm sure you would make a great mother because you seem so cool here. Yes that's the problem with having kids older is the bouncing back. I will admit it does kind of scare me and if I have kids I want to get checked out first. I would hate to get pregnant and find out I have an underlying medical condition that could hurt the baby. Then again I know people in their 40's who had babies with no problem and others in their 20's with problems. I think the biggest risk I have outside of the age (which isn't as high risk as people think) is that twins run in my family, and the older one is the more likely they are. I know in Illinois there are many kids up for adoption and I've always preferred this myself. There's so much more advantages of adopting an already here kid and contrary to what many might think, there's a lot of assistance to adopt. From what I understand about the eggs is that the woman freezes the eggs and she can use them to get pregnant even after menopause. I haven't investigated this though so I'm not sure.

It's funny because I asked my mother about this issue tonight and she said not to worry. She said whatever happens is the way it's meant to be. She also told me I'm worrying about this when I really shouldn't be. She's actually right because this has come second to my financial issues. Yes I'm older and that could mean never having kids (a possibility) or never marrying (90% do so I probably will eventually) but there's always a possibility next year I could get pregnant, never know. I could reconnect with the one I want or meet a new guy soon. I never worried until the last year or two when I started to fear being alone. Of course even getting married doesn't mean not being alone either.

KaylaM
11-07-2010, 03:48 AM
I'm sure you would make a great mother because you seem so cool here.



I agree that Kylea would make a great mom.

Casual Observer
11-07-2010, 07:49 AM
I know a ton of quality men who would not be comfortable dating someone who takes off her clothes in public and grinds cock all night... and that's perfectly understandable.

For me, the professional nakedness and cock-grinding has not been the problem historically--it's the occupational hazards that are frequently part and parcel of the sex industry as KS_Stevia mentioned, and how those hazards impact the quality of life of the dancer and by extension, myself.

It's exhausting and we've all seen that movie before.

JayATee
11-07-2010, 03:38 PM
I know a ton of quality men who would not be comfortable dating someone who takes off her clothes in public and grinds cock all night... and that's perfectly understandable.

It's understandable? ::)

ArmySGT.
11-07-2010, 04:05 PM
I think I put more stress on myself by simply knowing that the social & government systems are so messed up that the way to have the highest probability of someone caring about/for you when you are old is to have children. Otherwise you risk the chance of ending up in a nursing home that you HOPE your social security & retirement will cover, only to PRAY that you are treated right... I think that is the biggest fear - dying alone or being mistreated because no one cares. I better hope that I either die young of something that isn't painful, or else I maintain my body well enough to live independently until I die! Maybe women worry about that sort of thing more than men?



This is world wide. This is the rationale behind Chinese families killing girls to have a son, and the huge families in already starving countries.

The take care of your children and your children take care of you system. Why you see such extended families with three or for generations living under one roof.

I feel you on the Family relations, both my parents are in their 80's. I don't have a close relationship with either. I usually see the separately once a year, and a week is too much. My Brothers and sisters fight like teens so family gatherings are out completely.

ArmySGT.
11-07-2010, 04:06 PM
It's understandable? ::)


People are not really hardwired to watch their mate with somebody else.

ArmySGT.
11-07-2010, 04:14 PM
Speaking of hardwiring............



Is this Mothering, nurturing.......etc et al. That causes otherwise sane woman to let these parasites stay?

Christany
11-07-2010, 04:20 PM
Speaking of hardwiring............



Is this Mothering, nurturing.......etc et al. That causes otherwise sane woman to let these parasites stay?

Interesting question. Some of it is due to oxytocin (the "love" chemical). It influences and confuses decision making.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin

Other factors might be at work (upbringing, repeating past trauma as a feedback loop, co-dependency, naivety....). It's a strange equation.

Kellydancer
11-07-2010, 04:38 PM
Speaking of hardwiring............



Is this Mothering, nurturing.......etc et al. That causes otherwise sane woman to let these parasites stay?

I don't know but that's a good question. I've never been maternal towards a guy because they already have their mother. That's why I've never been one of those women who does everything for a guy. Simply put I'm not going to do things for a guy unless he's going to do things for me.

I don't know if it's really maternal why I'm giving this guy I want space but I think it has to do with the fact that I've been where he was, and he was understanding last time, so now is my turn. Also, he really is a good guy with my morals and that's very hard to find. Will it pay off? Who knows, but it is an interesting coincidence that I wasn't looking for anything serious now either until my job situation clears up.

I really doubt maternal instincts are why women keep bad guys. I still think it's because we as women are judged by whether we have someone so many women take what they can.

ArmySGT.
11-07-2010, 05:02 PM
ArmySGT.............I like how you post!! I love how when everybody comes at you...you just kinda roll w/ it!! =) lmao We need more posters like you instead of all these peeps that wear their heart on their sleeve!!


You missed the EPIC back and forths with "He who shall not be named".

Except I'll name him.

Hey Ray Gordon,

The internetz called, left a message.

"Fuck you"

That is all.

JayATee
11-07-2010, 05:43 PM
People are not really hardwired to watch their mate with somebody else.

To watch? No I understand not wanting to watch. To not be able to have a relationship with someone because of this? That's pathetic.

Kylea2
11-07-2010, 06:14 PM
You missed the EPIC back and forths with "He who shall not be named".

Except I'll name him.

Hey Ray Gordon,

The internetz called, left a message.

"Fuck you"

That is all.

Haha! Yeah, I don't think she probably knows who he is. I enjoyed it though! ;D

Kellydancer
11-07-2010, 06:32 PM
Ah, so this is all about women dating Ray Gordon? ;D. I'm glad I wasn't here when he was.

Ok I know it's a joke, but that guy reminds me of a former guyfriend.

Kellydancer
11-07-2010, 06:53 PM
Do you remember the whole DBF debacle? Tbh, I've always wondered if that was the same person.

What is DBF? I remember I first started posting (I lurked for several years) when some kind of drama fighting was going on. Something about why are women posting who aren't strippers.

Djoser
11-07-2010, 07:45 PM
People are not really hardwired to watch their mate with somebody else.

No, they aren't. Neither men nor women can handle seeing it, thinking about it, knowing it is going on even if they can't physically see it, etc. Neither men nor women generally like the idea of 'their' mate rubbing all over the genitals of other women or men, at all. There are exceptions, but they are rare in both sexes.

The vast majority of women could never handle having a male stripper as a SO, either.

Nor is it especially pathetic; rather it is human nature--unless maybe 95% of the human race is pathetic (which is arguable at times if you watch the news ;D).

Unfortunately, this drastically limits the number of available partners. Especially when you consider the questionable motivation in a large amount of that 5% that doesn't care about the stripping spouse/SO.


I have seen very, very few truly happy couples in ten years in the business--though it is better down here in the Keys.

Kellydancer
11-07-2010, 09:12 PM
From one of the old extinct forums before this one. Insane in the membrane.

Definitely sounds insane in the membrane. I hadn't heard of that before so was curious. Kind of reminds me of another board I used to frequent (ironically also a stripper forum). It was nice until these two guys started attacking each other, and then one was made mod! It was closed down.

Kellydancer
11-07-2010, 09:20 PM
No, they aren't. Neither men nor women can handle seeing it, thinking about it, knowing it is going on even if they can't physically see it, etc. Neither men nor women generally like the idea of 'their' mate rubbing all over the genitals of other women or men, at all. There are exceptions, but they are rare in both sexes.

The vast majority of women could never handle having a male stripper as a SO, either.

Nor is it especially pathetic; rather it is human nature--unless maybe 95% of the human race is pathetic (which is arguable at times if you watch the news ;D).

Unfortunately, this drastically limits the number of available partners. Especially when you consider the questionable motivation in a large amount of that 5% that doesn't care about the stripping spouse/SO.


I have seen very, very few truly happy couples in ten years in the business--though it is better down here in the Keys.

I agree. I dated a DJ and a bouncer while dancing at it failed partly because of this. I was insanely jealous if they paid attention to other girls while dancing, and they hated when I did dances (though they were air dances). I am a jealous type and could never imagine a man with someone else than me. I would even be jealous if a guy I loved went to a strip club. If I marry I would be upset if he had a stripper at his party. I know that sounds like a hypocrite but I know how some (not all and certainly not here) dancers are. The idea of her rubbing her body over his would feel like cheating.

Djoser
11-07-2010, 11:40 PM
I could write a book about jealous strippers and the crazy shit they will do when they get riled up.

I came very close to losing a job in one club because of a jealous dancer. Even though I was fucking neither her nor the girl she was jealous of! That was after I learned my lesson the hard way, like a dumbass--always play around in the other clubs.

Kisca
11-08-2010, 12:16 AM
I agree. I dated a DJ and a bouncer while dancing at it failed partly because of this. I was insanely jealous if they paid attention to other girls while dancing, and they hated when I did dances (though they were air dances). I am a jealous type and could never imagine a man with someone else than me. I would even be jealous if a guy I loved went to a strip club. If I marry I would be upset if he had a stripper at his party. I know that sounds like a hypocrite but I know how some (not all and certainly not here) dancers are. The idea of her rubbing her body over his would feel like cheating.

I agree..... Why do you need to declear your status and show your 'last moments of being a man". When I marry, you better be happy getting married to me, if you're celebrating your last moments before "being tied to the chain" then you dont deserve being married nor me. So to a point I get jealous on those reasons but at the same time that % of dancers are not as clean I want them to be during those parties.