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kellyallstar
04-24-2011, 10:52 AM
2 weeks ago I went through the naked scan, then when that was done they stopped me and had a female pat down my private area vag/ass in front of everyone...I was like WTF? I was wearing pink sweats from vic secrets and they had 2 buttons on the back. And I told her oh i bet it's the buttons. I was REALLY pissed/embarrassed for a while but im over it now, she was ok about it and just doing her job.

Luvlydancer sorry to hear that you had an aggressive experience, there are a few TSA that like to act if their god or something. Ive had more than a couple of crappy experiences going back to New Zealand to visit. But Ive had alot of no probs too.

Sucks there are so many wack jobs that have made travelling such a hassle, but safety is the main priority.

loren
04-30-2011, 07:15 AM
Who is really behind all of this? hint red sheild.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gkGP-hxlq0

MargaritaVillain
04-30-2011, 12:27 PM
Ex- Miss USA says TSA touched her vagina... four times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmADZpqhKhQ&feature=player_embedded

Brandi_Lynn
06-24-2011, 11:06 PM
http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/tsa22.jpg

This is so fucked up. :O

Mr Hyde
06-24-2011, 11:55 PM
Ex- Miss USA says TSA touched her vagina... four times

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmADZpqhKhQ&feature=player_embedded

As an aside, if that's the quality of talent that we're getting for Miss USA, we have no chance in Miss Universe.

As for her horrifying experience...yeah, ok...they touched her vag (over her pants)...but GMAFB....it wasn't like they shoved a finger in her hoo-ha.

I don't wanna be searched in this manner either, and I think it's BS, but these over-emotional over-reactions....? really? If some guy grabbed my junk in one of these searches, I'd probably get cranky but crying? emotional? Maybe it's a woman thing...I don't know....but she was acting like she was slapped in the ass or something by a drunk in a bar.

jack0177057
06-25-2011, 07:42 PM
The female agent touched my vagina directly. The male supervisor watched.

That is awful and unacceptable and you should file a complaint about it (though I doubt anything would come of it).

Do some research to determine if this is conduct was consistent with the existing law on pat downs. I thought the current law was that such pat downs are only appropritate if a person whose been set aside for extra screening declines a full body advanced imaging technology (AIT) or full X-Ray scan. - http://www.gsnmagazine.com/article/21736/new_tsa_pat_down_rules_effect; http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/11/new-tsa-pat-down-procedures.html

Be glad you weren't coming from Columbia. Cavity searches used to be very prevalent for women coming from Columbia some years ago. (I don't know if it continues to be as prevalent today.) Women would come out of this experience with rape trauma.

Here is some good news - http://www.9news.com/news/sidetracks/184596/337/New-law-would-make-TSA-pat-downs-a-sex-crime-?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE%7Cp


I'm sorry but I can't feel bad for you. They are doing this to protect us!

This is true, but that doesn't mean its not subject to being abused. The TSAs have enormous discretion and can act arbitrarily and with malice. When I travel, I kiss their ass a LOT, to avoid their wrath. My GF and I had an incident in which she dared to ask them why they were selecting her bags for additional screening and, as punishment for this act of wanton insubordination (all she did was ask a question), they humiliated us by treating us like suspects, and making us wait in a room for about an hour (not knowing what they intended to do with us), and we nearly lost our flight.

Aurora_Sunset
06-25-2011, 08:53 PM
There will ALWAYS be people who abuse their power. Just because there are a lot of police officers taking advantage of their position of power, does that mean that police officers are ineffective and we shouldn't have them anymore? Of course not. I'm sure there are a lot of TSA agents who take advantage of their position and treat people badly. That doesn't mean this is an ineffective system and should be done with. When an individual person does something outside of their job description, yes, they should be reported and punished. A guy who masturbates to pathetic, not-even-close-to-real female images in the scanner? Pathetic. He was dragged away. He's a freak - end of story. But I just have to disagree with everyone saying that airport security measures are slowly taking away our freedom. Like someone said, all the bad shit gets reported, but all the stuff they do find and stop does not get reported. There are ways around everything. Does that mean we shouldn't try? I agree with the sentiment that people bitch and moan about their liberties being taken away but the second something bad happens to them or someone they love, they'll be screaming "why didn't they catch this!?"

I would rather be touched in a slightly uncomfortable way than think that I have a chance of getting blown up because our security was just like "well, fuck it, we won't catch them anyway - let's just stop trying." They touched her crotch because, hey, that's a reasonable place to suspect something being hidden. If everyone knew that "privates" were off-limits in pat-downs, of course everyone would hide shit there. They weren't trying to rub you off or finger you. It was a pat-down. I would try to think of it from their perspective. If they miss something, they feel responsible for how many lives? We don't know exactly what that job entails or how they're trained or WHAT kind of people they deal with on a daily basis. After what they see and go through for awhile, they probably feel they're perfectly justified in taking drastic measures to make sure they don't miss anything. The ones that do abuse their power are just that - abusers. They are not indicative of the entire system, just like asshole police officers are not indicative of the entire police force.

Miss_McKenna
06-26-2011, 02:47 AM
^^ What Aurora said

TigerToes
06-26-2011, 03:54 AM
they don't go round groping vagina's or strip searching toddlers in other countires airports, they certainly don't in europian countries, austrailia, thailand, china, the philipines, or north africa. on 9 11 terrorists were allowed to board planes with knives, tear gas and fake bombs, if security hadn't been so dam relaxed there wouldn't have been a 9 11, now they have gone to one extreme to the other! Did the 9 11 terrorists smuggle the knives, tear gas and fake bombs in their underwear ontop of their vaginas?! if they did surely passing a metal detector over their bodies would have alerted staff at the airport? or did they strap it to a toddlers body? or did they waltz onto four different aircrafts without a problem atall?

nikkidarling
06-26-2011, 06:18 AM
http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/tsa22.jpg

This is so fucked up. :O

I was so shocked by this article that I had to look it up. It's satire.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/scanner.asp

Brandi_Lynn
06-28-2011, 04:38 AM
I was so shocked by this article that I had to look it up. It's satire.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/scanner.asp


Thank god! I was really horrified about this -especially since it seems like something that could actually happen, :relieved:

KrystleX
06-28-2011, 06:44 AM
I don't know if anyone has said before as I haven't read the full thread but..

I worked as a flight attendant for the past 5 years and these are the rules for a pat down in the UK.

No skin to skin contact is allowed. Security must be gloved.

On patting down intimate areas such as the breasts/genitals then they must use the backs of their hands

If they wish to inspect further i.e removal of clothing or false limbs etc then it's your right to be taken to a private room.

Obviously there are more rules than these, heh but I thought these ones were most appropriate for the thread.


So basically, yes... these security searches are vital; however, there are specific guidelines that they should be following when carrying them out that ensures you feel safe *not* violated.

jack0177057
06-29-2011, 04:42 PM
In Texas, we had a bill that recently passed the House and a revised version in the Senate that prohibits invasive pat-downs by federal airport security agents.

The bill would have expanded the federal definition of "official oppression" to ban federal employees from improperly touching a person's private areas. Violations would constitute a Class A misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in jail and a maximum $4,000 fine.

The Transportation Security Administration opposed the measure and had threatened legal action if it became law.

Unfortunately, the bill died today, because its final version was not voted on by the end of the legislative session.

The bill's sponsor in the Texas House, state Rep. David Simpson (R), vowed to try again next year: "We will never give up the fight for liberty," he said on his Facebook page. "Though we were not successful in passing the TSA bill to protect travelers' dignity, I am continually encouraged by the efforts of so many Texans who have fought hard to see the Constitution upheld."

Brandi_Lynn
07-14-2011, 04:13 AM
http://overheadbin.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/13/7075992-mom-gets-layover-in-jail-after-yelling-at-tsa?gt1=43001

caitlin1214
07-14-2011, 08:49 PM
Just like in any position of authority ,there are a few people who unfortunately decide to abuse their power. Nobody should feel like they've been groped at the airport.




I had scoliosis and had a spinal fusion to correct it. Due to the surgical hardware, I've had to carry a doctor's note every time I've had to go through airport security.

(Once, in Heathrow, I've even set off the metal detector!)


In the choice between the pat down and the body scan I always choose the body scan because not only will I have my note, the scan will pick up my surgical scar.


That way, if I do set off any kind of metal dectector, they'll see the note, they'll see the scar and they'll know why.

caitlin1214
07-14-2011, 08:58 PM
My surgery was pre-9/11 (May 25, 1999) and at one of my pre-op appointments I remember joking with my orthopedist about whether or not I was going to set off any metal detectors. At the time, he said no.

Laurisa
07-14-2011, 09:21 PM
I don't know if anyone has said before as I haven't read the full thread but..

I worked as a flight attendant for the past 5 years and these are the rules for a pat down in the UK.

No skin to skin contact is allowed. Security must be gloved.

On patting down intimate areas such as the breasts/genitals then they must use the backs of their hands

If they wish to inspect further i.e removal of clothing or false limbs etc then it's your right to be taken to a private room.

Obviously there are more rules than these, heh but I thought these ones were most appropriate for the thread.

A colleague of mine filed a report when a security official forcefully pulled her shirt up in front of our crew and removed her back brace. She had no gloves on, exposed our colleagues tummy area and caused her a great deal of embarrassment..

Our colleague had lost alot of weight (20st down to 8st) in a very short period of time, so I'm sure you can guess what her stomach looked like. To have it showcased in front of passengers and crew was mortifying for her.

Said security agent was dismissed. Apparently they made a habit of it.

So basically, yes... these security searches are vital; however, there are specific guidelines that they should be following when carrying them out that ensures you feel safe *not* violated.

I don't care if someone touches my tits or pussy with their palm or the back of their hand...they still touched it when they shouldn't have!