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Clare
12-01-2010, 09:27 AM
My friend has a traveling dancer business and he has a bunch of places booked but not enough dancers.

I do not know all the details since I'm just a friend, but you can contact me and I can give you his number. I know that his girls make good money and he sends them all over Wyoming. Housing is provided.

AmyLynne
12-04-2010, 06:32 PM
so you could end up driving to a small town like riverton or lander? no thanks!

Clare
12-04-2010, 09:14 PM
I guess next week they're in Casper which is an oil boom town. I'm an escort so I don't know what is good money for a stripper but he says they make average of 300 a day after tip outs. Plus housing is provided and it's only for 5 days.

Wyoming's a strange place. I know as an escort myself and other ladies can make amazing money - send us to Denver where it seems any woman with a curiousity and an internet connection is posting am escort Backpage ad and the competition makes for some s l o w days.

He's sent girls to Alaska, Puerto Rico and Florida too. He's short girls because he let two go after finding out they were doing too much in private. Which I agree with, lol, as an escort strippers doing extras cuts into my client base.

questella
12-05-2010, 05:59 PM
i <3s Casper =)

Kylea2
12-05-2010, 06:55 PM
Clare actually has a connection out there to a club that I liked. The customers are really easy going, but money-wise I've heard both bad & good reviews about the club from dancers within the past month & a half. I do know though that they owe money to one of the SW members.

AmyLynne
12-05-2010, 09:11 PM
Uhm again. No thanks! This guy sounds just like cedric and jay.

Clare
12-05-2010, 09:45 PM
Clare actually has a connection out there to a club that I liked. The customers are really easy going, but money-wise I've heard both bad & good reviews about the club from dancers within the past month & a half. I do know though that they owe money to one of the SW members.


Yikes! I had no idea! Now I feel bad for recommending! His theory is since they're traveling entertainment they make more because he sends out radio ads, flyers, etc beforehand.

I've never stripped but I have admired dancers. Since looking for help for him I've heard some horror stories. Girls having to pay out huge % for house fees, someone getting raped at a clubs motel in Rock Springs WY, crummy "house motels" period - 4 girls to a room, items and money stolen.

As an escort, it's simple. Money on dresser. Two people. End of transaction. I've always thought that as an escort I had it worse but seriously we have blacklist sites, ladies only career talk areas, screening tools galore, and we get to interact via phone and email with whom we allow into our space. I've gotten shorted once, when I was new, and since then I've either been lucky or just a screening fiend.

Since looking for my friend I've developed a deeper respect for what you ladies do.

AmyLynne
12-05-2010, 09:50 PM
Not trying to be a bitch but this has bad juju all over it. A lot of the clubs there are in small towns that probably dont have a university or college outside of Laramie so they are desperate for entertainers but it probably isnt worth the hassle. Girls in laramie go to ft collins to dance or they work at hooters or daisy dukes in loveland co. I cant see how this would be worth the time or even money. For private parties hardbodies and bare assets can pretty much handle road trips!

Clare
12-05-2010, 10:00 PM
Not trying to be a bitch but this has bad juju all over it. A lot of the clubs there are in small towns that probably dont have a university or college outside of Laramie so they are desperate for entertainers but it probably isnt worth the hassle. Girls in laramie go to ft collins to dance or they work at hooters or daisy dukes in loveland co. I cant see how this would be worth the time or even money. For private parties hardbodies and bare assets can pretty much handle road trips!


Well my friend doesn't own any club in WYoming. He owns a company that sends girls to different places.

The one girl made average 300 a night in tips when she was there in Casper a month ago. For me, that's less than an hours work so I don't know if that's good or not.

Wyoming clubs are also very low key. This summer I went to some clubs in Philly as a customer and WOW! Costumes, amazing makeup, curled hair. Not that WYoming dancers wear potatoe sacks but it's definitely not as high maintenance here lol.

AmyLynne
12-05-2010, 10:07 PM
I wouldnt do this anyway but here are things to consider if I would...
so maybe you should ask your friend about this which might help recruit more girls...

1. Guarantee- Why should I go on the road when I dont know how much I can make. If a club say in Denver becomes dry youre not stuck in lander or riverton without income.

2. Travel- My own travel arrangements with prepaid advances from the club so Im stuck with a group and cant just bail when it gets slow.

3. Does he make a percentage of our income or does the club pay him off the top.

4. Separate hotel room- Im not sleeping with 3 other girls.

And for the record I drove through Wyoming with my boyfriend and baby last summer to Jackson and until you get to the tetons and yellowstone its the boringest place on earth next to nebraska and kansas.

Clare
12-05-2010, 10:33 PM
I wouldnt do this anyway but here are things to consider if I would...
so maybe you should ask your friend about this which might help recruit more girls...

1. Guarantee- Why should I go on the road when I dont know how much I can make. If a club say in Denver becomes dry youre not stuck in lander or riverton without income.

2. Travel- My own travel arrangements with prepaid advances from the club so Im stuck with a group and cant just bail when it gets slow.

3. Does he make a percentage of our income or does the club pay him off the top.

4. Separate hotel room- Im not sleeping with 3 other girls.

And for the record I drove through Wyoming with my boyfriend and baby last summer to Jackson and until you get to the tetons and yellowstone its the boringest place on earth next to nebraska and kansas.

Which way did you go? I'm from NJ originally and I swore I'd never grow to like this state but even in its' flat lands there's stuff to see. Driving from Cheyenne to Casper, there's Medicine Bow mountain range on your left, with Laramie Peak looking, and red mars-like cliffs on your right. The Big Horn Mountains have beautiful cave systems, some open to the public for free, and right next to Laramie is Saratoga with hot springs. The Red Desert is the Continental US's largest patch of uninhabited land and you can't look at it's red and orange spiers and desolate canyons and not be amazed at how odd yet beautiful it is. Hells Half Acre NE of Casper was used to film StarShip Troopers - yes, it looks like an alien planet but that's it beauty!

We have no personal income tax, low property prices and taxes and aren't shaped by the "scooby-doo background" found in every other state. You know, where no matter what busy road you're on it's Target, Olive Garden, WalGreens, Applebee's, it's like someone's running alongside your car with a mural it's so repetitive. My kids go to a relatively large (for WYoming) school and last year one of their teachers on her own time orginaized a horse led camping trip for the students. Try finding that level of commitment from a teacher in Jersey lol! I never lock my door and the keys are always in our ignition.

Off my Wyoming soapbox, lol.

My friend pays for rooms which aren't clubs rooms and it's 2 girls to a room. The stories I heard and was referring to were from ladies working on their own here and in Arizona, Alaska and Chicago. The girls also don't pay house fees, they pay 15% of tips to Muse and that's all. Travel is arranged and available but it's not forced or required to travel in a pack. And he's had girls leave a club early and he doesn't sweat it. He's not a stripper version of a pimp lol.

AmyLynne
12-05-2010, 10:38 PM
We went through Lander via Denver and Laramie. Coming back we went through Rock Springs to Craig Co and Steamboat Springs.

I wouldnt pay 15% of my tips to anyone. That would mean if i made 300 id have to pay 45. Your friend should check out some of the sites for the companies that recruit for Guam and Macau. They get paid by the club not the girls. Its far more legitimate.

The club owners have brick and mortar investments, the guys who book girls or do private parties are not that far removed from being pimps. Its just legality really.

Kylea2
12-06-2010, 01:32 AM
Yikes! I had no idea! Now I feel bad for recommending! His theory is since they're traveling entertainment they make more because he sends out radio ads, flyers, etc beforehand.

Its not your friend that owes money, its the club you PM'd me about. I didn't think to mention it to you before, nor do I typically mention it to anyone. I just know that they owe some money to someone here for an invoice that was never paid, but was sent to them multiple times.

AmyLynne
12-17-2010, 03:56 PM
And 300 a night is only good if your friend isnt taking a cut from it. Plus the clubs in Wyoming are small and redneck..being from Texas (born in NYC) I can call people redneck and Wyoming is redneck.

Clare
12-17-2010, 04:51 PM
And 300 a night is only good if your friend isnt taking a cut from it. Plus the clubs in Wyoming are small and redneck..being from Texas (born in NYC) I can call people redneck and Wyoming is redneck.


But don't you and your boyfriend take a cut from some online cam thing?

Taking a small cut is fine, if it's fair. Occassionally I'll screen or refer a client for another escort and, atleast here in a redneck area, a teeny amount is always offered and insisted upon by the giver. We sell time afterall - time is money.

I have a friend who runs an escort business and since she was an escort she doesn't take the 50/50 or even the "great" 60/40 cut, she just takes a set small fee each call. I think women who've been there and done the work know the difference between what's fair for screening, advertising and scheduling... and what is pimping.

AmyLynne
12-17-2010, 06:37 PM
we make money a lot of ways!

that wasnt the point.

most placement agencies like continental et al dont get paid from us, they get paid by the clubs! the companies that recruit for the clubs in guam and macau get commissions from the club, never affects us!

sohow does "muse" make his money?

Clare
12-17-2010, 09:24 PM
we make money a lot of ways!

that wasnt the point.

most placement agencies like continental et al dont get paid from us, they get paid by the clubs! the companies that recruit for the clubs in guam and macau get commissions from the club, never affects us!

sohow does "muse" make his money?

From what I understand he takes 15% of the ladies tips/earnings.

How do typical dancer agencies work?

AmyLynne
12-18-2010, 10:38 AM
well there is a difference between say hardbodies or bare assets in denver and pure talent or continental agencies which books dancers but the fee is included in the booking contract between the club and performer. So hypothetically if you get 500 a night the club would pay like 575 a night to the agency.

Ive done stuff when I was stupid and 19-20 where I made good money only have to give 20% to a "booker"

As far as working for an "agency" generally for private bachelor parties they would charge like 200/hour and only pay the girls like 80. They pay bookers who work from home a percentage and the guys I know sually make more by "creating" fines and other ways for them to tap into our money.

Kylea2
12-22-2010, 04:47 AM
^^^ Numbers in the first paragraph look off. ;)

Kellie
12-22-2010, 08:18 PM
Work for a man in this business?...Who sends his girls here and there, and housing is provided? It sounds like trouble. Twenty years ago maybe, but I know better now.

wychick
12-24-2010, 07:52 PM
I wouldnt do this anyway but here are things to consider if I would...
so maybe you should ask your friend about this which might help recruit more girls...

1. Guarantee- Why should I go on the road when I dont know how much I can make. If a club say in Denver becomes dry youre not stuck in lander or riverton without income.

2. Travel- My own travel arrangements with prepaid advances from the club so Im stuck with a group and cant just bail when it gets slow.

3. Does he make a percentage of our income or does the club pay him off the top.

4. Separate hotel room- Im not sleeping with 3 other girls.

And for the record I drove through Wyoming with my boyfriend and baby last summer to Jackson and until you get to the tetons and yellowstone its the boringest place on earth next to nebraska and kansas.


Here's the deal.

He drives his girls up to BFE WY and HE doesnt pay for the rooms. THE CLUB is providing the room, which guess what? They do for any dancer thats traveling thru!!!!

He wants $100 upfront plus $100 a week while your "working for him" and he said I'd still have to pay for photos.

He expects 15-20% of tips, AFTER you tip the house. He says this is to pay for ads. i looked everywhere and found no ads just the stuff the club does anyways


And yes, he does bait and switch, the women in his crew are rough and not the gorgeous women in his flyer he sends to clubs.

one has half her head shaved and looks like a she-male. One is seriously anorexix like mebe 80 lbs. One is a known prostitute with a webpage who works for a pimp in town - yeah thats who I wanna be working and dancing with! No extras there at all HEAVY SARCASM

and yes you DO get stuck in a room with other girls if i wanted to be in a commune id join one i hate sharing rooms

SO IN A NUTSHELL STAY AWAY

this guy does nothing for your % NOTHING I work for myself and keep all my money and I travel myself around and I sleep in motel 6s by myself

since going solo ive made way more money too since i dont show up in a car load of fresh faces why be 1 outta 6 when i can be the solo new girl for a week?

AmyLynne
12-25-2010, 06:17 PM
so many leaches in the industry! if you want to be a feature or travel then the only agency worth anything is pure-talent.com