View Full Version : How do you girls get guys to buy you stuff
yoda57us
02-06-2011, 03:02 PM
bem, you give the gift of your time and company to your friends in the club. Don't you think they appreciate that more than your money? Gifts are not all wasteful expressions are they?
Sorry pcb but this doesn't really make any sense. Even Bem is smart enough to know that his presence in the club as a non-customer is not a gift to anyone. He drops in to kill time in a room full of naked women and happens to know a few dancers who may have some free time to kill with him.
yoda57us
02-06-2011, 03:07 PM
I don't have any issue with the fact that a dancer goes in to work every day to earn a living, not to get gifts. The thrust of this thread however is directed guys who already spend money while also giving gifts to dancers. Why they (we) do it is really the issue, not whether or not a dancer prefers it. I for one don't give them the option of choosing. I spend generously when I visit them at work and the occasional presentation of a gift is accepted graciously. To be clear, I have a lot of favs that I know are not interested in this sort of thing and, in their case, I don't bother to make the effort. It doesn't mean I spend more on them or even tip them cash in lieu of the gifts that I might give to other dancers.
While it's true that no dancer has posted here that they prefer gifts to revenue (not a huge surprise there) There have been several posts from dancers who gladly accept gifts from their customers and even a few regarding how to go about getting some very expensive ones...
KS_Stevia
02-06-2011, 03:52 PM
i'm too drunk to pay attention to this thread. but I love flowers and wouldn't throw them out ever. Lovely home decor is one of those nice things I don't spend a lot of money on as I don't have many guests over these days.
bem401
02-06-2011, 03:58 PM
Sorry pcb but this doesn't really make any sense. Even Bem is smart enough to know that his presence in the club as a non-customer is not a gift to anyone. He drops in to kill time in a room full of naked women and happens to know a few dancers who may have some free time to kill with him.
I would only disagree with this in that, for the past 3 or 4 years, I killed time there strictly because of the presence of my friends, not the fact its a SC. Otherwise, I'd still be going now despite my friends' departures.
yoda57us
02-06-2011, 04:17 PM
i'm too drunk to pay attention to this thread. but I love flowers and wouldn't throw them out ever. Lovely home decor is one of those nice things I don't spend a lot of money on as I don't have many guests over these days.
That's a nice sentiment KS. It's been a while since I sent or brought any dancer flowers but I've heard far too many stories over the years of them winding up in the trash or being stolen by another dancer or even the DJ or house mother if the intended dancer wasn't around to claim them.
LOL, my decorator is Walmart, Ikea and Target. I like nice things but I rarely have anyone over here other than the drunk women who don't realize who is taking them home...:D}:D;)
sananeko
02-06-2011, 04:28 PM
I wouldn't mind getting gifts but as long it doesn't make them think they don't have to pay for my time. I'm at work..
yoda57us
02-06-2011, 05:44 PM
I would only disagree with this in that, for the past 3 or 4 years, I killed time there strictly because of the presence of my friends, not the fact its a SC. Otherwise, I'd still be going now despite my friends' departures.
What are you disagreeing with Bem? I'm not questioning your motives for being in a room full of naked women. It is however a fact that it's a strip club, not the library or the mall...
velvet
02-06-2011, 11:01 PM
I've received flowers a few times over the years and i never threw them out, i love flowers! i even usually took the single flowers i got home.
over the years i have received some very nice gifts both expensive and not so expensive. i appreciated them all. i was very good to my regulars and maybe in the beginning they were "trying to get close to the va jay jay" (can i just say i hate that word lol) but after some time and usually by the time i received the gifts they knew better. my last two really good ones even knew i was married AND i still talk to them both even though I've been retired for almost 2 years now. i guess we were both lucky because I've had some great regs and i treated them well in return.
pcbman
02-07-2011, 05:33 AM
Well Yoda, I respect your opinion and your right to express it.
But really, bem is a special case. When he shows up to see his friends on a slow night, I'm sure he brings with him a party atmosphere and changes the entire flavor of the night. Customers will see that the girls are having a great time with an Alpha male, and I'll bet that got the wallets cracked open. I know in my own case I am always drawn to smiling and laughing dancers rather than sulky ones.
And bem, closer to the topic, your time, like all others, is money. Since you gift your friends with your time, in a way they are getting something from you, even if it's not cash. So I don't understand your negative view on tokens of appreciation.
Are you being naive, or just being modest?
Sorry pcb but this doesn't really make any sense. Even Bem is smart enough to know that his presence in the club as a non-customer is not a gift to anyone. He drops in to kill time in a room full of naked women and happens to know a few dancers who may have some free time to kill with him.
Hopper
02-07-2011, 05:36 AM
Some of the kinds of gifts the OP is asking about are as good as money, e.g. paying the dancer's bills, dinner. Jewelry must be good too if it's the kind she likes. Some here have mentioned that the customer took them shopping to choose gifts she likes.
Seems to me that the gifts are on top of what the customer spends on dances, tips etc. anyway. It wouldn't really be a gift if it came out of what he usually spends on her or if he just spends extra money on top of his usual amount or just gives her the extra money. Regardless of how much the dancer esteems her customers or any given one, I expect receiving gifts in some way adds to her sense of prestige or to the glamor of her job.
pcbman
02-07-2011, 05:39 AM
Not to beat this to death, but on another section of this forum Margaritavillian posts some hilariously funny pictures, and people have thanked him over 1000 times. he cracks everyone up! Do you think the lovely ladies on this board say, wow, he is really funny, but I wish he'd send me some money instead? ;)
yoda57us
02-07-2011, 07:56 AM
But really, bem is a special case. When he shows up to see his friends on a slow night, I'm sure he brings with him a party atmosphere and changes the entire flavor of the night. Customers will see that the girls are having a great time with an Alpha male, and I'll bet that got the wallets cracked open. I know in my own case I am always drawn to smiling and laughing dancers rather than sulky ones.
This may be the funniest and at the same time most clueless post I have ever read...
Thank you for giving me a good laugh over my morning coffee!
yoda57us
02-07-2011, 08:01 AM
Not to beat this to death, but on another section of this forum Margaritavillian posts some hilariously funny pictures, and people have thanked him over 1000 times. he cracks everyone up! Do you think the lovely ladies on this board say, wow, he is really funny, but I wish he'd send me some money instead? ;)
Sorry dude but this is another flawed analogy. This board is not a strip club. Dancers don't log on here expecting to get paid. If Margaritavillian showed up at a club this afternoon with a bunch of funny pictures and no money to spend he would be ignored by every dancer in the club.
Everyman
02-07-2011, 08:04 AM
See, the extras dancers here in Houston are very ethical about it. They tell you that a HJ costs $200 and a BJ costs $300 and they deliver on their promise; they don't string you along. I don't buy these extras, but I get the sales pitches.
I spend about $100 - $150 on lap dances (not including cover, drinks, etc.), which I consider reasonable. Why an average guy (with an average job/income) would spend more than $300 just to get dances is incomprehensible to me. Dude, if you're going to spend that much, buy a BJ - get more bang for your buck. Plus, the desire is gone afterwards, so you don't continue spending.
(Of course, if the guy is loaded and money is no object to him, he's free to go around buying all the dancers sportscars.)
Sounds like someone had some wife issues......
yoda57us
02-07-2011, 08:07 AM
Seems to me that the gifts are on top of what the customer spends on dances, tips etc. anyway. It wouldn't really be a gift if it came out of what he usually spends on her or if he just spends extra money on top of his usual amount or just gives her the extra money.
Exactly. This is part of what I mean when I talk about the social component of the relationship between a regular good spending customer and a dancer.
The gift is just that, a gift. There is (or at least there shouldn't be) a penalty or loss of income because of it. If it's presented as an "either/or" then it's no better than the guy who offers drinks, food, back rubs or foot rubs but no dances just to get girls to hang out with him
bem401
02-07-2011, 08:07 AM
But really, bem is a special case. When he shows up to see his friends on a slow night, I'm sure he brings with him a party atmosphere and changes the entire flavor of the night. Customers will see that the girls are having a great time with an Alpha male, and I'll bet that got the wallets cracked open. I know in my own case I am always drawn to smiling and laughing dancers rather than sulky ones.
And bem, closer to the topic, your time, like all others, is money. Since you gift your friends with your time, in a way they are getting something from you, even if it's not cash. So I don't understand your negative view on tokens of appreciation.
Are you being naive, or just being modest?
You give me too much credit pcb. My visits the last few years have pretty much been confined to afternoons when I have an hour to kill, am passing by the club, and can't think of something better to do. On top of that, I don't drink and most of the girls I consider friends would rather impose on a customer for a drink. Its anything but a party, merely a respite from their job for the time it takes me to drink my bottled water, exchange pleasantries, and leave. I have regular contact with a few of them away from the club anyhow so running into them is nothing to make a big deal of. The only benefit they get could be that they are seen by customers as being of interest to another guy. Now that they are taking time off, I rarely even consider stopping in.
I have no negative view of gifts. I occasionally gave them when I was spending rather heavily years ago. My contention was merely that the girls value the money spent on the gift more than the gift itself. The gift-giver derives a certain satisfaction from giving a gift that he doesn't derive from paying for her time. It makes the whole thing seem to him as if its not entirely about business. At least I felt that way when I gave gifts to faves back in the day. Did my gifts make it home with them? I really don't know but they were more personalized than a bouquet of flowers, either their preferred perfume or a gift certificate to a store they were known to patronize. The gift never affected the amount of money they made from me.
Maybe I misinterpreted what I read by whomever got us off on this tangent. I thought the poster was describing a situation where he occasionally stopped in to see a girl, spent generously, and now wanted to start occasionally including gifts when he visited. If this decreases the amount of money the girl pockets that night, its not a good idea. If its above and beyond what she'd make and had no chance of ever ending up as money in her pocket, well of course she'd have no objection.
tempest666
02-07-2011, 08:28 AM
Don't you know the Jedi mind trick isn't confined to just jedis
Almost Jaded
02-07-2011, 09:35 AM
Any good stripper is a Jedi master. Really, that's the difference between a successful stripper and one who won't make it - Jedi training.
natilinia rouge
05-01-2011, 05:18 PM
wow i really gotta learn how to do this lmao it could be helpfull someday :P esp when i get married and want my husband to watch the kids ha lol
SydneyDancer
05-01-2011, 05:32 PM
wishlists and I have a few extra birthdays a year. even some of my regs help me get new guys to buy me gifts for my "birthday"
trishaxxxo
05-01-2011, 08:11 PM
hahaha I used to be a financial domme and still have a few slaves I keep in touch with....so I have an attitude that naturally draws these guys to me in the strip club. When I go out and I'm in the mood I can get free drinks all night at the bar. Last week I went out with a fellow dancer to a normal bar, I saw two guys who looked PERFECT to hustle drinks off of, they were on their way out but one of them just HANDED me a $20 bill for me to buy drinks w, this was after 5 mins of conversation, he had no clue I was a stripper.
I have gone out with a few regulars where they will buy me dinner, drinks, cover charge for shows or cabarets. Ive been taken shopping or strip club hopping with cutomers who will pay for us to sit at the rack, drinks, and sometimes just give me cash for hanging out. The biggest thing ive ever gotten is a new computer but ive definitely gotten books, DVDs, jewelry, clothes, shoes, a webcam, and cash/paypal tributes. and I have NEVER done any sexual act with any of them.
How do I do it? I just have a natural attitude when I'm hustling that says IM HOT AND I DESERVE ALL YOUR MONEY AND ATTENTION!! LOL }:D
Almost Jaded
05-01-2011, 08:17 PM
^ Bingo.
trishaxxxo
05-01-2011, 08:27 PM
Make dinner plans. Cancel them last minute because your laptop broke and you're on your way into work right now because you have this HUGE paper due next week for school so you'll be working day and night till you make the money.
At least... that's how my former roommate got a new computer.
L O L!!!!!!!!!!! that is insane!!! I think I would feel weird about accepting a computer or anything like that from a guy. just give me the money ITC O_O
The thing is some guys really like to buy you gifts, and would spend money on them that they would NOT spend in cash. It's about the experience, knowing they got you something you are going to use and love, and think of them every time.
I think of it like, well yeah I want another tattoo or a new computer or clothes so, why would you complain? If they really just want to give u something u can meet in a PUBLIC PLACE, not much they can do wrong in the mall or a public restaurant.
Also I don't string these guys along. I make it clear that we are having a fun friendship, that I will never sleep with them, and they are getting in return the gift of my company and attention. I don't consider it taking advantage, I consider it mutually beneficial, and I don't go OTC with them unless I really do have fun hanging out with them too!
Almost Jaded
05-01-2011, 09:29 PM
^ ...and again, lol.
trishaxxxo
05-04-2011, 07:41 PM
LOL just wanted to note that I am traveling to Vegas next week, and since I bought my ticket a week ago I've been asking customers/online slaves for $$ and shoes/clothes for the trip....so far I've gotten $400 in paypal tributes, a new $60 pair of pleasers shoes, one outfit, and tonite I'm meeting a customer at another stripclub where I'm sure I'll get drinks and $$ to sit at the rack with :D
LOVES IT
Almost Jaded
05-04-2011, 07:44 PM
If you don't PM me or MissMinxx and meet for a drink or SOMETHING while you're here, I will hunt you down and say something mean.
sananeko
05-04-2011, 07:50 PM
I want to go...
Almost Jaded
05-04-2011, 07:54 PM
...and what's stopping you? :)
You don't need a REASON to come to Vegas..! :D
sananeko
05-04-2011, 07:56 PM
My car will not make it.. And I hate flying.. I always get pulled out of line to be searched.. And have to start over to be searched again..
trishaxxxo
05-05-2011, 01:38 AM
If you don't PM me or MissMinxx and meet for a drink or SOMETHING while you're here, I will hunt you down and say something mean.
It's on MEANIE! No really I'm exited to meet up with you guys!