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TheBrownFox
01-10-2011, 07:35 AM
How was that negative? All the other girls complain about how difficult the site is so why not address them? It's just acknowledging the possibility that she may not be as successful on mfc. There's nothing wrong with that. If she succeeds then great then if not then at least someone told her and warned her so. And don't put words in my mouth about middle aged people won't do well. What I said was that one can't expect to be doing this as a career and the possibility that may not work. If some of these young girls struggle then what does that say about older models? I'm not saying it can't happen but one shouldn't be surprised if it does. Sorry but I don't want to put this on my resume at 40-50. Even if I was doing well I would still want something else to depend on.
I could be going to school and getting a real job that offers benefits and guarantees a steady pay as opposed to putting all my trust in a fickle, income fluctuating job. You can't fault me for not wanting to worry if I'll make $100 one day and then $20 the next. There's come a point and time when you start maturing and want some stability in your life. Web camming is ok as a side hustle but you should always have a backup job or some other source of income just in case you'll run into those low points b/c you can't always be on top. That's all I'm saying but call it what you want b/c in the end I'll always be accused of being pessimistic when I'm trying to offer some wisdom and talk some sense into someone.
I really wasn't trying to be rude in my previous post, but at least two other girls on here besides me have commented on how negative you are in your posts. You talk as if being a cam girl is just hopeless, and I'm sorry if webcam work has been a disappointment for you, but when someone starts a thread asking for suggestions (meaning that they've made up their mind to start camming), you could at least wish her luck. Ain't nobody "putting words in your mouth."
Okay, so then go to school and get a "real job"...no one is stopping you. For some girls this IS a real job, and if they're consistently making great money being their own boss, hell yeah they're gonna stick with it, I would imagine. Who the hell wants to work a "real job" getting yelled at for being three minutes late, having to ask for permission to use the bathroom, and having to pay x dollars for daycare every week? :P
And there are plenty of middle-aged women who look FABULOUS for their age. One of sexiest women alive, in my opinion, is the actress Stacey Dash (she played "Dionne" on Clueless), who has posed for Playboy (those photos are HOT) and doesn't even look like a woman in her 40s. And some men have a thing for older chicks. I gotta give credit to that MFC chick with the screen name 'Cougar' something. I'm not sure how much she makes, but I peeked in her room and that chick is very flirtatious and friendly, and I got the impression that she tends to be a pretty horny chick. ;D
And, by the way, those of you who are thanking rainwater for these posts...you are only encouraging her, but whatever...I ain't mad at'cha. 8)
TheBrownFox
01-10-2011, 07:41 AM
Right!
Mid thirties here!
I get sexier every year if I do say so myself!
Yeah, you're very sexy and look like you're in your 20s!
Foxy lady! 8)
TheBrownFox
01-10-2011, 07:47 AM
Yes because we all know how stable real jobs can be...::)
Right!
I watch that show George Lopez on Nickelodeon sometimes, and it seems like in damn near every episode the workers are worried about getting laid off. I know it's just a t.v. show, but in a way it's also reality. My dad and I both know what it feels like to be laid off from a job.
TheBrownFox
01-10-2011, 07:56 AM
Quit barking at Bambalina! She does a lot for us!
I very much doubt you will do well on any site, you obviously hate the industry.
SMDH with your attitude, I would tip you to stfu and go away.
Bambalina, a LOT of us appreciate all the awesome things you do for us here.
My thoughts exactly. That kind of attitude is not gonna make a man's dick hard...it's gonna make him think "Damn, what's this chick's problem??? Oh well...NEXT!"
Bambalina
01-10-2011, 08:06 AM
Y'know...I appreciate the support guys...But seriously...I'd like to know the deal with Rain. I mean, something went viciously wrong for her with web-camming, and made her angry, glass is half empty, bitter...Now, while I find it annoying to read, and while it is an absolute bummer ball thrown in the HappiGame...What are we here for? To help each other out right?
So...Rain...How bout it? Can we help YOU? What are YOUR experiences and why were they so bad that you are so negative to camming. Please, if it isn;t too late, and you still think you could give this a try, why not stop shouting about failure, and embrace that maybe there is some stuff left to learn, and jump in the tank with us and lets get you making some money!
B
Jessica1001
01-10-2011, 11:21 AM
And, by the way, those of you who are thanking rainwater for these posts...you are only encouraging her, but whatever...I ain't mad at'cha. 8)
Ooooh.... is that meant for ME? ;-) I'm thanking everyone for their post as a matter of course, as a general "Thank you for contributing your insights to the thread I started."
But for the record, a post doesn't have to be parroting my own sentiments to be 'thankable'..... I appreciate the negative posters for what they are worth, and believe that *SOME* value can be found in those posts too. Even if it's just "wow, I'm sure glad I'm having a better day than THAT chick". ;-) Personally, when I see posts to the effect of "There is no money in this fly-by-night gig that we call 'webcamming'", it makes me smile... as I review my carefully kept Excel spreadsheets detailing my last week's or last month's earnings.... ;-)
I try to help people and give encouragement when I can, and I really appreciate that when *I* need help (as with this whole MFC sitch), I can come here and receive all sorts of wonderful support, insight, and suggestions. So truly.... if you have posted in this thread, you have helped me, and I thank you, even if our personal 'philosophies' are not in line.
Love,
-Jessica
TheBrownFox
01-10-2011, 12:56 PM
Ooooh.... is that meant for ME? ;-) I'm thanking everyone for their post as a matter of course, as a general "Thank you for contributing your insights to the thread I started."
But for the record, a post doesn't have to be parroting my own sentiments to be 'thankable'..... I appreciate the negative posters for what they are worth, and believe that *SOME* value can be found in those posts too. Even if it's just "wow, I'm sure glad I'm having a better day than THAT chick". ;-) Personally, when I see posts to the effect of "There is no money in this fly-by-night gig that we call 'webcamming'", it makes me smile... as I review my carefully kept Excel spreadsheets detailing my last week's or last month's earnings.... ;-)
I try to help people and give encouragement when I can, and I really appreciate that when *I* need help (as with this whole MFC sitch), I can come here and receive all sorts of wonderful support, insight, and suggestions. So truly.... if you have posted in this thread, you have helped me, and I thank you, even if our personal 'philosophies' are not in line.
Love,
-Jessica
Okay, fair enough. :) Like I said, I ain't mad at cha. ;D You seem like a cool, upbeat chick (that's what these men like to see), and I'm sure the guys on MFC love you.
And that's awesome that you do the spreadsheets...you sound like a smart businesswoman.
Jessica1001
01-10-2011, 01:46 PM
Okay, fair enough. :) Like I said, I ain't mad at cha. ;D You seem like a cool, upbeat chick (that's what these men like to see), and I'm sure the guys on MFC love you.
And that's awesome that you do the spreadsheets...you sound like a smart businesswoman.
Aww..... thanks! ;-) XOXOXO
laurielegs
01-10-2011, 03:08 PM
I used to think I needed a "real job" in addition to webcam work. I worked camming on the side because it was such good money and can be fun too. One day I realized I was making the same pay in a few hours that I made all day at my "day job". If I had quit then instead of waiting till 2 years ago my house would have been paid off and I'd be in way better financial position.
The bottom line is, webcamming is not for everyone but I've been on the corporate ladder, had a management position that paid well but the stress levels were sky-high and the job sucked. I don't ever want to work as a supervisor again. Lying to people who used to be my co-workers and seeing benefits and pay taken away from hard working people made my stomach turn.
After working for them 17 years the company went under but fortunately I had seen it coming 6 months earlier and got out and cashed in my vacation pay and rolled over my retirement money before they declared bankruptcy.
No job is secure any more. If you can you are way better off being in business for yourself, whether it be webcamming or something else. The key is to put aside part of your money, invest and make your money work for you. I feel lucky I got out when I did and that I still have time to take steps to secure my future.
TheBrownFox
01-10-2011, 04:37 PM
OMG, Agent_99 is fuckin HILARIOUS...I LOVE her! All these dumbass guys are coming in her room running their mouths, and I LOVE her witty, smartass remarks to them. She's like "What do you think, guys? Is it time to escort ___ to the Asian homepage? Should I boot them?" LMAO. This chick is awesome. :D
Jessica1001
01-10-2011, 05:00 PM
I used to think I needed a "real job" in addition to webcam work. I worked camming on the side because it was such good money and can be fun too. One day I realized I was making the same pay in a few hours that I made all day at my "day job". If I had quit then instead of waiting till 2 years ago my house would have been paid off and I'd be in way better financial position.
The bottom line is, webcamming is not for everyone but I've been on the corporate ladder, had a management position that paid well but the stress levels were sky-high and the job sucked. I don't ever want to work as a supervisor again. Lying to people who used to be my co-workers and seeing benefits and pay taken away from hard working people made my stomach turn.
After working for them 17 years the company went under but fortunately I had seen it coming 6 months earlier and got out and cashed in my vacation pay and rolled over my retirement money before they declared bankruptcy.
No job is secure any more. If you can you are way better off being in business for yourself, whether it be webcamming or something else. The key is to put aside part of your money, invest and make your money work for you. I feel lucky I got out when I did and that I still have time to take steps to secure my future.
This is very interesting, because I'm at a bit of a 'crossroads' in life myself.... a bit similar to you. I am so freaking confused these days, I barely know which way is up. :-/ I'm glad you're happy with your decision.... 17 years... wow! And... good for you for cashing out in the nick of time!!!
Someday I will come to you for career counseling. Sigh.
TheBrownFox
01-10-2011, 05:05 PM
Hmmm...she just commented on how she thinks it's stupid for models to charge you to add them to their friends list...lol. Well a lot of us charge guys (100 tokens is the norm) to be on our friends list. You know how carried away some of these guys get with the PMs? Charging 100 tokens helps cut down on the "riffraff"...lol.
I see what she's saying though...but adding everybody to your friends list can wind up working against you sometimes.
Arialandre
01-10-2011, 05:05 PM
Yes RESULT. MFC is up and working for me again so Im going to give it a proper go this time. Back to basics, here we go! Music, games, talking, complete profile overhaul. I may even sign up for Princes Jenny's daily pay. "Let's get ready to RUUUUUMBLLLLLEEEE!"
leighbeigh
01-10-2011, 06:03 PM
I was in AspenRae's room the other day when she was doing shows with another girl. It was crazy! It basically went like this:
Topic:1600 tokens for us to get naked
Gets 1600 tokens in 3 minutes
Topic: 1600 tokens for us to get in the bath and kiss
Gets 1600 tokens in 2 minutes
Topic: Tip 10-99 for us to eat each other out
Tokens coming flying so fast and furious (including a bunch of 1000 tips) no one can keep track of what numbers have been covered, so after a few minutes they just say fuck it and start eating pussy
I left for a bit after that, but when I came back they were making people tip them in free chat to fuck each other with a strap on in group.
Girl makes bank.
rainwater
01-10-2011, 06:17 PM
Quit barking at Bambalina! She does a lot for us!
I very much doubt you will do well on any site, you obviously hate the industry.
SMDH with your attitude, I would tip you to stfu and go away.
Bambalina, a LOT of us appreciate all the awesome things you do for us here.
Why don't you just shut up because I wasn't talking to you. I don't have to go away because I have as much as right to share my opinions as others so if you don't like it then shut up and don't respond. It's as simple as that.
Troublegum
01-10-2011, 06:30 PM
Why don't you just shut up because I wasn't talking to you. I don't have to go away because I have as much as right to share my opinions as others so if you don't like it then shut up and don't respond. It's as simple as that.
Likewise, I have the right to give a nod of respect to Bambalina who is actively TRYING to help everyone here, yes, even you.
But really, if your attitude provokes that reaction from a fairly decent female like me, what is is provoking from your potentially paying customers?
rainwater
01-10-2011, 06:40 PM
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[quote=Bambalina;2038537]Was anyone thinking it looked like RAIN? Maybe cuz the little black "Raincloud" came along...to rain all over everyone.
Very cute of you but you know rain isn't all bad b/c it helps grass and crops grow but thanks for your comment on my username.
That is an EXTREMELY telling statement. Every girl on here should read that statement and realize that Rainwater un-intentionally put into words the MOST destructive and common thought pattern a human can have. If anything has honestly ruined the great experiment that is the USA, it is THAT very sentiment. That very idea turned creative, inventive, robust, curious, pioneers into robotic, sheep-like, workers who accept their fate to be drones.
If Benjamin Franklin thought that "I just don't believe in getting your hopes up over something that might not work."...we would be reading by candlelight and have no computers....
I'm sorry but you can't compare the use of electricity to web camming b/c electricity is a necessity for our everyday life. Just performing in front of strangers on a computer is not needed in order to make our lives much more easier. It's a form of luxury not a need.
If Thomas Jefferson and the other Framers of the Constitution thought "I just don't believe in getting your hopes up over something that might not work." there would be no USA....
In fact, it is safe to say that all the best, most fun, daring plans and schemes and wild adventures in your life could be completely RUINED and stopped before they even start...with that one little phrase...
"I just don't believe in getting your hopes up over something that might not work."
So, ladies, I thank Rain for coming up with EXACTLY the thought we all need to completely eradicate from our consciousness if we're ever to do anything great or different or wonderful...
So you consider being a webcam peformer who uses her body to entice strangers and beg for their hard-earned as honorable as the founding fathers who built this country and who wrote the guidelines for human rights? Oh please. We're tallking about camming here not a historical lessons. What those people accomplished were far more admirable, required some sense of intelligence, and something that greatly contributed to the world and society so it's insulting that you compare their accomplishments to just using your body for a quick buck. But as always you always like to ramble on about things that has nothing to do with the original topic. I get the impression you like to hear yourself talk just for debating sake.
Do you know how many people say complete stupid/ignorant/inciteful/hateful/lame things? Example...In the 40s in Germany, one could say "Jews are mongrel dogs only fit to be killed..."Others girls say the same thing so there is some validity in what they're saying"
Funny...but all those Nazis saying the things they said didn't make them true....
Okay you can't compare racism and genocide to camming. And by the way we don't need a history lesson.
More to the point of what you're saying...When the Wright Brothers said they could make a flying machine, it was written "Every man of knowledge knows a man cannot fly...and when all men know something, it is with good reason."
So what do I give a flying fuck what OTHER girls say??
There are a couple hundred girls on MFC that make THOUSANDS per week that prove beyond ALL shadow of a DOUBT, that YOU and those "other girls" are WRONG. That it CAN be done, you don't have to be a trampy slut, or whatever other nastiness you put on girls doing what they need to to make a living...and it IS being done right now by MANY....so you and the other girls are WRONG.
As to singling you out...it isn't happening..at least not the way you imply...See, YOU are the Anti-Bambalina as far as I can tell...You are counter to everything I believe in and teach...not because you are based in "Reality" and me in "LaLaLand", but because you never offer REALITY, just despair.
I have posted some fairly harsh realities on this board that have gotten me in hot water with some of the users here, and I stand by that reality...We agree completely that reality is brutal Rain, we just disagree on what that means...Possibly because I can think outside the box, and you can't..I dunno...
All I know is that I'm happy and prosperous and working on my dreams here in LaLaLand...How is Reality for you? Working out well? I mean, I'd love for you to join us on the train to Happy Dreamland, but I suppose SOMEONE does need to serve me my meals at a restaurant, or answer the phone at the Doctors office, or type in those quarterly reports at the Insurance Corporate office....let me know how that's going for you...
Meanwhile, LaLaLand pays REAL well...
Oops, went a-rambling again...damn me...hope no-one else minded...
I'm not reading all that. You might have written a book until then peace out and everything else is yawwwwwwwnnnnn and your examples don't relate to what we're discussing.
rainwater
01-10-2011, 07:11 PM
Y'know...I appreciate the support guys...But seriously...I'd like to know the deal with Rain. I mean, something went viciously wrong for her with web-camming, and made her angry, glass is half empty, bitter...Now, while I find it annoying to read, and while it is an absolute bummer ball thrown in the HappiGame...What are we here for? To help each other out right?
So...Rain...How bout it? Can we help YOU? What are YOUR experiences and why were they so bad that you are so negative to camming. Please, if it isn;t too late, and you still think you could give this a try, why not stop shouting about failure, and embrace that maybe there is some stuff left to learn, and jump in the tank with us and lets get you making some money!
B
You know what I don't need your or anyone else's help b/c to me it's not that serious and it's not like I'll make a career out of this anyways b/c I'm much better than that and I can be doing something that rewards me for my hard work and my brain w/o resorting to display my naked body for anyone to see and that doesn't offer long-term longevity, and being a sexual object. Your looks and body will only get you so far before they get old and the perverts are on to the next chick. So rather I have a yeast infection, relatives over-extending their holiday visits, feeling fat/ugly/depressed, or whatever excuse these girls give for not camming for weeks on end I can rest assured that I don't have a job that requires me to reveal things about my body that I'm uncomfortable showing. If something minor inhibits one from working and then you're stressing about upcoming bills as a result and not having enough then maybe you should be doing something else with more security.
I can tell you from what I'm seeing from these girls there's more cons from pros. They all either complain about the cheapskates, their vaginas hurting from toys overusage, the income daily fluctuations, the free chat insults, certain sites ripping them off, the fear of being recorded, they're embarrassed to show vaginal disorders, yadda yadda yadda. The only thing is great is the money and that if they do hit a landmine which isn't very consistent. Basically anything in the sexual industry is fickle and men change their minds at the whim. So spare me your advice b/c I don't care. I want a real job, with real benefits, with real education, room for advancements, and something that greatly contributes to society in a positive manner. Being naked and having pervs barking orders and being degraded on hours at end is not my future as a woman and one who is intelligent enough to use my brain and not use my body to manipulate men. So spare me.
MissEgo
01-10-2011, 07:17 PM
^ Can I ask why you're on this site then?
Troublegum
01-10-2011, 07:20 PM
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Smurfette
01-10-2011, 07:34 PM
You know what I don't need your or anyone else's help b/c to me it's not that serious and it's not like I'll make a career out of this anyways b/c I'm much better than that and I can be doing something that rewards me for my hard work and my brain w/o resorting to display my naked body for anyone to see and that doesn't offer long-term longevity, and being a sexual object. Your looks and body will only get you so far before they get old and the perverts are on to the next chick. So rather I have a yeast infection, relatives over-extending their holiday visits, feeling fat/ugly/depressed, or whatever excuse these girls give for not camming for weeks on end I can rest assured that I don't have a job that requires me to reveal things about my body that I'm uncomfortable showing. If something minor inhibits one from working and then you're stressing about upcoming bills as a result and not having enough then maybe you should be doing something else with more security.
I can tell you from what I'm seeing from these girls there's more cons from pros. They all either complain about the cheapskates, their vaginas hurting from toys overusage, the income daily fluctuations, the free chat insults, certain sites ripping them off, the fear of being recorded, they're embarrassed to show vaginal disorders, yadda yadda yadda. The only thing is great is the money and that if they do hit a landmine which isn't very consistent. Basically anything in the sexual industry is fickle and men change their minds at the whim. So spare me your advice b/c I don't care. I want a real job, with real benefits, with real education, room for advancements, and something that greatly contributes to society in a positive manner. Being naked and having pervs barking orders and being degraded on hours at end is not my future as a woman and one who is intelligent enough to use my brain and not use my body to manipulate men. So spare me.
We complain because it's NATURAL for people to complain about their jobs, even when they love what they do. I guarantee you will NEVER find a job that is 100% perfect in every way, that you will always come home from completely satisfied without any issues or problems.
If you want a "real job" that contributes to society, that's great! But don't insult us or look down on us for doing webcam. We are NOT dumb because we use our bodies to earn money and manipulate men. I personally don't think webcam is degrading at all. You are only degraded if a man MAKES you feel that way. I can spend an hour on cam eating my boogers and shouting "i'm a filthy booger-eating whore!" over and over and I still won't feel degraded, instead I'll feel excited and powerful because I just made a shitload of money doing something ridiculous that required very little actual work.
I understand your need to contribute to society and make a difference in the world, as I want to do that too, but honestly unless you are literally in Africa feeding starving children, it's unlikely that your job will make MUCH of a tangible contribution. Working for a corporation or a bank is not making a difference in the world.
Anyways, I could go on, but yeah. How's it feel looking down on us from your high horse? :P
MissEgo
01-10-2011, 08:24 PM
You know what I don't need your or anyone else's help b/c to me it's not that serious and it's not like I'll make a career out of this anyways b/c I'm much better than that and I can be doing something that rewards me for my hard work and my brain w/o resorting to display my naked body for anyone to see and that doesn't offer long-term longevity, and being a sexual object. Your looks and body will only get you so far before they get old and the perverts are on to the next chick. So rather I have a yeast infection, relatives over-extending their holiday visits, feeling fat/ugly/depressed, or whatever excuse these girls give for not camming for weeks on end I can rest assured that I don't have a job that requires me to reveal things about my body that I'm uncomfortable showing. If something minor inhibits one from working and then you're stressing about upcoming bills as a result and not having enough then maybe you should be doing something else with more security.
I can tell you from what I'm seeing from these girls there's more cons from pros. They all either complain about the cheapskates, their vaginas hurting from toys overusage, the income daily fluctuations, the free chat insults, certain sites ripping them off, the fear of being recorded, they're embarrassed to show vaginal disorders, yadda yadda yadda. The only thing is great is the money and that if they do hit a landmine which isn't very consistent. Basically anything in the sexual industry is fickle and men change their minds at the whim. So spare me your advice b/c I don't care. I want a real job, with real benefits, with real education, room for advancements, and something that greatly contributes to society in a positive manner. Being naked and having pervs barking orders and being degraded on hours at end is not my future as a woman and one who is intelligent enough to use my brain and not use my body to manipulate men. So spare me.
I *was* just going to leave this alone, but I guess being a dumb cam ho I don't know better.
I think making hundreds of dollars an hour DOES reward me for my hard work. As for you being better than me... I don't find myself putting others down to increase my own self-esteem. I have always said I have the highest respect for the ladies who do the more hardcore shows and are career cam girls; I myself am too shy to do so, so I really admire their courage. I do believe it takes a brain to be able to succeed in this business, so I'm not sure where that comment of yours is coming from. You're correct about one thing - looks do not last forever. I'm sure everyone here knows that. The women who are using this as a little income to help with bills/school/etc. on the side, I'm sure, are saving a portion of their money so that they don't have to do this long. The "career" cam girls will undoubtedly have enough money to pay for anti-aging procedures if they choose so.
What other job lets you take weeks off because you feel fat or have relatives staying over or anything? I love the flexibility camming offers. My money has also been pretty consistent. As far as girls complaining about work... doesn't everyone complain about work? I'm sure the freaking queen bitches about her job too. It's human nature. The fact is, if we didn't like it, we wouldn't do it. Have you ever actually worked as a cam girl for an extended period of time? I don't feel degraded, I don't get naked, and I DO use my brain. Look at me go, I'm using it right now. While I appreciate your desire to contribute to the thread, your disrespectful comments are uncalled for and I believe they have no basis or truth in them.
Arialandre
01-10-2011, 10:03 PM
FUCK THIS TROLL NOISE!
So on a POSITIVE NOTE, seeing as how we all bitch and complain about our super degrading job...I JUST CONQUERED MFC!! Straight up best day on there EVER! Ok is was like my 6th day over a year but STILL. SO for those of you that need a confidence boost. I used to SUCK at MFC I just could get it to work for me. And then after reading this thread and thinking positive.
I made $177 in 3 hours!!! Now I know a lot of you are like ooooh almost $200 big fucking deal, but to me that IS a big deal. Think about it at $10 for an 8 hr day we would only be making what $80??? $177 in 3 hours in our own homes guys! To most ppl thats fucking unbelievable!!! And it's one of the best camming days Ive ever had and it happened on a site I always trash. We have AWESOME jobs. There IS tons of possibilities on MFCs if you find your own groove.
This is meant to be a positive msg after the last few posts of bs.
Bambalina you're a fucking superstar, don't let anyone tell you any different.
Troll, don't you dare come shitting on our forum because we will burn your bridge down just see if we don't.
Sorry, not in the mood to be sweet Aria right now, just not in the mood.
laurielegs
01-10-2011, 10:06 PM
I JUST CONQUERED MFC!! Straight up best day on there EVER! Ok is was like my 6th day over a year but STILL. SO for those of you that need a confidence boost. I used to SUCK at MFC I just could get it to work for me. And then after reading this thread and thinking positive.
I made $177 in 3 hours!!!
That is awesome!
MissEgo
01-10-2011, 10:09 PM
^^Fantastic!! Was it just a random good day or did you do something different?
Arialandre
01-10-2011, 10:18 PM
I totally mixed it up a bit. This was my first time back since August. I played music, I danced smiled, and created a game. I FINALLY get the game thing *eyeroll* and got guest imput on options. And I got a super bloody long pvt. And then after that I got like 4 more pvts. It was super fantastic. im off now but I want to go back I would looove to hit $200 for the day and Im soooo close!
MissEgo
01-10-2011, 10:22 PM
^ Log back in but don't go online... Message your faves from your friend list and tell them you have a special offer for your favourite ten premiums... and then make up some offline tip offer. My personal favourite - highest offline tip by midnight tonight wins X. (maybe a custom picture set, where they choose what you wear!)
Offline tips are the best. Make money while you hang out on SW. ;)
Arialandre
01-10-2011, 10:46 PM
Awesome, Im actually doing my hourly right now. SO another 1.5 hours of "work", I don't even have to do shows I just have to chat topless, moahahha they cant even see my nipples *eyeroll* just boob cleavage, and I've made a $200 day today, Im so fucking stoked! So my cam is up but Im posting on SW and reading webcomics and getting paid, for real though.
Jessica1001
01-11-2011, 12:57 AM
Woooohoooooo Aria!!! :-)
Sunbeams
01-11-2011, 01:44 AM
I dunno how you guys even read those BRIGHT PINK posts from rainwater, but yeah, from skimming through them, I would have to say that just because we bitch about our jobs doesn't mean we hate them or think they're degrading. There are days when I just want to scream from the lack of traffic or idiot members, but I don't have a lot of days like that fortunately. And if you don't think you need brains to make it in this business, you are sorely mistaken. There are a few lucky girls who make money just sitting around, but I have a feeling their luck could slowly run dry sooner or later.
Anyway, so camming isn't for you. I'm sure camming isn't for a lot of people. You could say that about any profession though. Not everyone is gonna want to be a doctor or lawyer. But just because it didn't work for you is no need to get insulting, and please spare us the whole "contributing to society" spiel. Just because you have an unconventional job doesn't mean you're some kind of lowlife leech. I hope I never hear the words "contributing to society" again, it's like nails down a chalkboard to me. It's just another way of saying "I, for whatever reason, couldn't make money in this awesome job of sitting around, making tons of cash, working whenever I want from home, being my own boss, setting my own rules and schedule, and so I'm going to be bitter and jealous and put down everyone who IS successful doing this."
Anyhoo, moving on. I'm happy to hear that you ladies over 30 are doing well too...that is so awesome and encouraging! And I dunno, MFC has been good to me and it's been frustrating too, but I guess if I ever get the urge I'll try to crack that nut. I hate the idea of public shows though and I get pretty annoyed by people who sit around not tipping, but I guess I just need to get over it? We'll see.
Arialandre
01-11-2011, 01:17 PM
I hate it too, but for me it's about finding a balance. What am I willing to do in hopes of being tipped, and then I NEVER cross that line, so I never feel bad. :D
DevonSantos
01-11-2011, 05:33 PM
Hi ladies! Every models camscore is DOWN! Even yours, if you are a model on MFC that has been there for a while now. The studios are taking over MFC and those foreign and domestic models are starting out with camscores of 5-8k off top! Yes, there is a domestic studio that MFC is affiliated with here in the states and they have models of their own that they promote and wish to see with high scores to maintain maximum visibility on the sites main page which is why you have been seeing so many weird looking, excuse my French, ugly ass 18 19 yrs olds on MFC with camscores of 5k or more. Thats them! Those are the ones working for the American studios and they speak full English. In regards to me, Yes my camscore is still ''considered'' high but Im not making nearly as much as I used to produce and my score STILL remains high based on my consistent hours which goes to show you that not all of us models with high camscores of 5k or more make super bank every day we're online. Even Devon Alexis, Jayce Marie, Kaileah, and tons of other top models have to remind the guys to: ''TIP'' which some viewers and cheap freeloaders may deem as ''begging''. Guys can get comfortable with conversation and easily forget that you need tips to stay online. Some days you will just not make your goal unless you have a scam running where a friend or business partner of yours signs up for a premium account and tips you with your own damn cash or you borrow the cash and pay it back after you get paid from MFC which is what some studios do for their own models. Sad, yet true! Every top model on MFC has bad days unless you are running a scam room and not a real cam room. Many top models tip themselves offline to stay in the Top 20 because they have built a business behind branding themselves with the MissMFC title and wish to maintain their ''status''! Yes! Models do broker deals with their custys just to keep their ranking in the contest. For new models: DO NOT believe everything that you see on MFC. I cannot stress this enough! If you want a high camscore on MFC and you are an American model then you need to either bust your butt with many hours online or alot of offline tips for merchandise such as videos, raffles, password packages, and all other marketing materials. If you are just a cam model interested in doing private shows only, then why not try Streamate? Why even bother with the sleeze and slimeballs of MFC to make mad dough! Also, words of encouragement to models with low cam scores, keep trying because you never know when YOUR very own fan obsessed tipper will come into your room and tip YOU big! I have seen with my own eyes models at the very bottom get tipped 5k and 10k tokens from a fan that was once a long time lurker that decided to sign up ''just for her''! DO NOT focus on other models and what their score is or how many tips you see them getting. If you can spy and lurk, then you can sign in online yourself and work! Yes! if you can watch, you can work! DO NOT let models that get tipped bigger and better than you shy you away from YOUR earnings. She is not YOU and YOU are not her. You do not know what her business plan is or what her marketing strategy is so stay focused on your own financial goals and building your own following.
Arialandre
01-11-2011, 05:46 PM
uggg, I so needed this. I am having a crap day and I needed some encouragement to perk up and try again.
TheBrownFox
01-11-2011, 05:51 PM
My personal favourite - highest offline tip by midnight tonight wins X. (maybe a custom picture set, where they choose what you wear!)
Offline tips are the best. Make money while you hang out on SW. ;)
This is an EXCELLENT idea. I'm promoting this on my profile headline and my news feed, and I actually got an offline tip today, which is rare. :)
DevonSantos
01-11-2011, 05:59 PM
^^ I think 30K-50K per month is pretty standard for the top girls. Spend an hour watching AspenRae and try to count the tokens. They're usually coming in so fast you won't be able to keep up. A few weeks ago I watched ShyTeen (or Shyutza) make over $1100 in less than an hour. All she did was sit there, too.
AR has marketing team promoting her all across the web when she is ''offline''! So when homegirl signs in she is immediatley ''bombarded'' with a room full of premium viewers that log in just to see ''her''! No need for elaboration here but if YOU are a model that doesn't mind splitting 70% of your profits with a team of hard working marketing gurus that promote you 24/7 and spam the hell out of to online surfers for them to come and chat and receive free tokens including other marketing strategy's that play into effect, then YOU too could also be on Aspen Rae's level. You can find these kind of companies online or attend conventions like the Internext Expo, AVN, Adultcon, and all others to seek out these companies. Its up to each and every woman to decide how far she wants to go in this business.
Prime example: BellaPass.com
That is a marketing company that promotes models and their cam rooms and their cam sites. James is the owner and Bryci is his #1 girl but also his girlfriend in real life. Moving along, every model affliated with this company stays in the top spots on MFC. All of his models are high ranking not because they are gorgeous, which they are, but because he markets the hell out of them all across the internet but these models also have to split their profits with James. So its up to you ladies to run your business how you see fit but understand that webcamming is #1. A Business. You only have two choices as a cam model: 1. Do it as a hobby for extra income and be happy with what you make or 2. Make it a business and work it!
*Good Luck* Ladies ;)
Arialandre
01-11-2011, 06:02 PM
Uggggg, Im signing up for MFC daily pay right now, im hoping that seeing the money in my account every day will really motivate me to bust my butt and not give up.
TheBrownFox
01-11-2011, 06:08 PM
Uggggg, Im signing up for MFC daily pay right now, im hoping that seeing the money in my account every day will really motivate me to bust my butt and not give up.
Do it! Do it! Do it! ;D
And I love that there's none of that "You have to make __ minimum to get paid" bullshit. 8)
DevonSantos
01-11-2011, 06:18 PM
So good to see more ebony faces on MFC! So many ebony models from what I hear get intimidated to sign up but the trick of being an ebony model is to shy farrrrrrrr away from any and all sterotypes that many people deem to have of ebony women based on media hypocrisy and slander. ATTENTION: Not trying to get political but you ladies know what I mean. :wink
Shy away from whatever viewers expect of you and do the exact ''opposite'' and you will succeed! No need for me to ''break it down'', cause I'm not interested in a debate, but you ladies have seen the successful ebony models on MFC and NONE of them are the ''G'' word at all from what I've seen.
Arialandre
01-11-2011, 06:31 PM
Oh yeah that's so not even me anyway. I'm small city Canadian with an...actually a slightly snobby mum, lol. My grandama was a classically trained singer and my grandpa was in Mensa and they are all white. Ok that all sounds really pointless, but what I mean is that I don't even have the background to be "G" lol. When I speak I sound white almost to the point of old school snobbish. Sooo no stereotypes here. I mean yeah Im fiesty, but I blame that on my mum being Iris! lol
Dancing Days
01-11-2011, 08:45 PM
The best entrepreneurial advice I've ever read was "It's not what you do, it's how you do it" - you can sell shit (in our business, literally) and people will buy it up if you package it pretty. So if you translate it to MFC terms, when you start out you are a small fish in an ocean full of sharks and other fish...so how are you going to make yourself stand out?
PS - I'm new here! Hello everyone! I've been reading SW anonymously for a few months now and love what you girls have to say. Well, most of you, at least. ;)
A few words about who I am and where I come from... I started out as a hobby camgirl on MFC but loved camming so much that I quit from my dream job and started indie camming full time. I do pretty well and I'm sure a few girls on this forum know who I am, just not under this name. In my opinion, camming is one of the best ways for horny female hustlers to make money without exposing ourselves to a lot of the dangers that come from offline adult entertainment. However, more power to the girls that can do it cause I certainly don't have the balls for it.
MissEgo
01-11-2011, 09:24 PM
This is an EXCELLENT idea. I'm promoting this on my profile headline and my news feed, and I actually got an offline tip today, which is rare. :)
Thanks! I live for offline tips haha I'm running an Offline Tips Contest - seriously making hundreds and not logging in, just focusing on school... (and cruising SW). I.Love.My.Job.
Sunbeams
01-11-2011, 10:33 PM
Wow Devon, thanks for the insider info. You would think that AspenRae has built up enough of a following by now that she could go independent though. Oh well, I'm sure even after her cut she must make a ton of money.
Dancing Days
01-11-2011, 10:35 PM
Wow Devon, thanks for the insider info. You would think that AspenRae has built up enough of a following by now that she could go independent though. Oh well, I'm sure even after her cut she must make a ton of money.
It's possible she signed a contract of some sort, but regardless, that girl is making bank.
TheBrownFox
01-12-2011, 03:20 AM
I have a question. Lately, when I try to type something in my chatroom, my computer mouse's cursor is doing this thing where it will go from being at the end of the sentence to flipping back to a different spot in the sentence. And it ends up fucking up the words that I'm trying to type. It was doing it to me A LOT in MFC tonight, and it's driving me crazy. What can I do for this?
Troublegum
01-12-2011, 03:32 AM
Prime example: BellaPass.com
That is a marketing company that promotes models and their cam rooms and their cam sites.
I had a look at them, they seem to be looking for models local to them rather than camgirls to promote for profit.
Is there anyone else?
Bambalina
01-12-2011, 08:37 AM
I had a look at them, they seem to be looking for models local to them rather than camgirls to promote for profit.
Is there anyone else?
My experience tells me Devon is off the reservation on this one...My old promoter, who taught me promotion has never heard of them as "Cam girl promoters" and he seems to know EVERYONE in the biz...
Also not so sure about the the info on Aspen, and I know it is SOMEWHAT incorrect...she does not give 70% to anyone...Unless something has changed DRASTICALLY with her.
Honestly, it gets me on trouble here, but I **LOVE** a good deal of Devon's info, and then some stuff, she just seems really paranoid. The top models tipping themselves for example, happens a LOT less from my knowledge than she says. I've associated with and been privy to the promotion of a few "top 10" MFCs, and they didn't tip themselves, so, while it MAY happen, it doesn't HAVE to happen. I just don;t believe it is nearly as common as has been alleged.
I think Starxx will corroborate this info.
What IS done and has been abused so badly that it almost destroyed stuff, was the abuse of the Bring A Friend thing. That is still on here somewhere, and while the main hole was shut down, that doesn't change the fact that models with serious high traffic sites, or models who buy banners and such, can use a BAF from their Boyfriend, and get more than 10,000 tokens per month...legally and without technically cheating anyone....Still sucks for those who cannot generate that traffic and compete.
B
PS. I want to clearly add that I am not trying to make trouble, and I fully respect the knowledge that Devon does possess. I just sometimes feel she posts things she THINKS are happening and it SEEMS to ME, like she is posting it as fact. When I know something counter to her ideas, I feel I must say something. I just get a bit suspicious when almost everyone who isn't here to defend themselves is called out as a "cheater" or a person using serious help, when in many cases, the MFC Top Models just use good promotional sense and also have lick on their side. Again though, I cannot speak for all models, and the ones I don't know of personally could OBVIOUSLY be cheating like mad. So, in some ways I am also a grain of salt here as well. My disclaimer is just this:
Don't believe stuff you read on the internet (or in the news or anywhere else for that matter) without serious corroborating evidence, and that INCLUDES my words....
TheBrownFox
01-12-2011, 09:11 AM
I'm often looking for CandieCane online (I love her personality), but I wouldn't be surprised if she took a few days off from MFC. She was pretty upset about how a MFC rep treated her at the AVN show (according to her post on the AmberCutie forum).
I'm always amazed at top earning hosts on MFC who make big bucks and have all kinds of merchandise (shirts, calendars, etc.) with their names on them. :) That's what's up.
TheBrownFox
01-12-2011, 09:49 AM
I was looking to see what other models charge for their worn panties, and I happened to notice that AspenRae raised $800 for the Monkey Rocker she wanted, and it only took two contributors for her to raise the $800.
YOU GO, GIRL!!!
Arialandre
01-12-2011, 12:26 PM
Hey hun yes, my MFC posting screen was doing the same thing, it was really messing me about the other night.
DevonSantos
01-12-2011, 01:00 PM
Yes. The AVN convention was an epic fail on MFC's part. I hope they are more organized next year.