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rickdugan
01-08-2011, 06:03 PM
Over the years I have met more than a few strippers that have served jail time for a variety of felonies, though most often involving drugs. While I would not call this widespread, it does make a lot of sense in places that do not require licenses.

Last week I came across one of my favorites in a club down south who had been a guest of the state for 6 months. During my visit, I was entertained by her stories about her time behind bars.

As a side note, while it was good to see her - particularly after her shift was over :D - I had been consoling myself quite well during her absence with a few other girls in her club and will miss that a lot. In fact, during her absence girls would come by to almost gleefully let me know that she was behind bars and to offer themselves as alternatives, but of course when she is there no others will come near me (I think that they have always been afraid of her). But anyway...

I have not really seen this discussed much here or elsewhere and I'd be interested to hear how many others in here come across girls with prison records.

yoda57us
01-08-2011, 07:13 PM
I'm know of dancers in a few of the clubs I go to who have some sort of criminal record. I actually know of at least one who went to jail for assaulting another dancer. As far a long-term stints in the big house? I don't really know.

ManyRoses
01-08-2011, 07:26 PM
I've never met any that talk about it openly, but I'm sure that there are plenty.

I have met several women who were street hookers (not the nice, agency-style escorting, but full blown pretty-woman) who moved into stripping as a way out...they had some interesting stories!

Wolverine
01-08-2011, 09:18 PM
My most recent gal I've been spending time with says she's been arrested three times since moving to this town (the last time being right before Thanksgiving a couple of months ago; according to her it was for a Public Intoxication charge). She keeps mentioning a felony, but I've never really dug deep enough to find out what that entailed (although I think it may be why she was fired from her nursing job a few years ago). I know earlier this last week she was afraid because there was another warrant out for her arrest for something she failed to do as a result of the arrest back in November. She's toxic, that's for sure...

Kellydancer
01-09-2011, 02:39 PM
I've never met any that talk about it openly, but I'm sure that there are plenty.

I have met several women who were street hookers (not the nice, agency-style escorting, but full blown pretty-woman) who moved into stripping as a way out...they had some interesting stories!

I worked with a few like that and yes they were interesting. Oddly they tended to be the ones least likely to do extras.

As for records I've worked with a few. I will fess up to a misdemeanor batttery charge when I hit my former best friend's boyfriend after he attacked me. He started it but the chauvinist cops arrested me. As it turned out I went to court and the charge was dropped eventually.

yoda57us
01-09-2011, 03:59 PM
I have met several women who were street hookers (not the nice, agency-style escorting, but full blown pretty-woman) who moved into stripping as a way out...they had some interesting stories!


I worked with a few like that and yes they were interesting. Oddly they tended to be the ones least likely to do extras.


I have also found that women who do or have escorted or hooked tend to be less prone to extras in the club. The exception being the hookers who work the low end clubs calling themselves dancers for the sole purpose of getting guys off in the private dance booths.

Actually I think sex workers in general have the best stories ever! I have friends who have danced, escorted, been street walkers, done porn, worked in S&M dungeons and done phone sex. It's absolutely amazing some of the stories I've heard over the years (the absolute most bizarre ones are from the dungeon girl). There are a lot of guys out there with some VERY strange sexual fetishes and, fortunately for them, women who will take money, lot of it in some cases, to help fulfill them!

jester214
01-09-2011, 06:30 PM
This brings to mind a question, perhaps one of the ladies can answer it or perhaps someone will do a small amount of internet research and answer...

In places that require dancers to have a license, does have a criminal record effect your ability to get said license?

I feel like the answer will be 'no', but I'm curious.

rickdugan
01-09-2011, 07:58 PM
I've never met any that talk about it openly, but I'm sure that there are plenty.

This makes sense. I don't really know why the ones that told me did so, but I also suspect that there are many others that I've interacted with that also had a criminal history but never said anything. For an attractive girl with a felony conviction, stripping would seem to be a natural consideration.

rickdugan
01-09-2011, 08:05 PM
Actually I think sex workers in general have the best stories ever!

I'm starting to get to the point where I am wondering whether I'm more entertained or disgusted by a lot of what I hear.

Most of the stories I hear from strippers about their lives, and what they encounter in the clubs, tend to border on depressing. I have heard enough stories about issues with the law, babies daddies leaving or in jail themselves, drug and/or alcohol problems, guys with fucked up fetishes (especially those guys with the young girl role play requests), etc., to last me a lifetime.

yoda57us
01-09-2011, 08:54 PM
I'm starting to get to the point where I am wondering whether I'm more entertained or disgusted by a lot of what I hear.

Most of the stories I hear from strippers about their lives, and what they encounter in the clubs, tend to border on depressing. I have heard enough stories about issues with the law, babies daddies leaving or in jail themselves, drug and/or alcohol problems, guys with fucked up fetishes (especially those guys with the young girl role play requests), etc., to last me a lifetime.

I think that whether we find the stories entertaining or depressing may have a lot to do with the ladies that are telling them. I don't really know what you are attracted to in the clubs rick but I know what I like and what I definitely don't care for as well. I'm attracted to strong women who are comfortable with their lives, with their jobs and with their sexuality. While I sympathize with any woman who has to work in the sex industry I'm not really interested in a pity party no matter how good a woman looks. Sex work is tough and I find that women who can laugh at life, and laugh at themselves seem to handle it the best. If a gal presents her life as one of misery I guess it would depress me as well but that honestly is the type of lady I tend to avoid.

rickdugan
01-09-2011, 09:16 PM
I think that whether we find the stories entertaining or depressing may have a lot to do with the ladies that are telling them. I don't really know what you are attracted to in the clubs rick but I know what I like and what I definitely don't care for as well. I'm attracted to strong women who are comfortable with their lives, with their jobs and with their sexuality. While I sympathize with any woman who has to work in the sex industry I'm not really interested in a pity party no matter how good a woman looks. Sex work is tough and I find that women who can laugh at life, and laugh at themselves seem to handle it the best. If a gal presents her life as one of misery I guess it would depress me as well but that honestly is the type of lady I tend to avoid.

Yoda, I think we both know that my SC activities are a little more predatory in nature. I am looking for a girl that looks good, can hold a decent conversation and is willing to do an OTC visit.

I generally execute my strategy by dressing in a nice suit and combining a generous amount of kindness with just enough firm communication so that she understands (1) that I am a nice guy with money to spend; and (2) that most of my money will stay in my pocket unless I am well motivated to spend it. :D

Now my gig tends to naturally lead to heavier interactions with girls that really need the money, which in turn exposes me to a certain amount of tough background stories. For the most part I have learned to accept this, but a part of me wishes that these stories were a bit less depressing.

yoda57us
01-09-2011, 09:22 PM
^ I pretty much agree rick. And, FWIW, I see nothing wrong with that. Regardless of whether it's your way or my way it's clear that all involved parties get exactly what they are looking for and that's really all that matters.

rickdugan
01-09-2011, 09:57 PM
^ I pretty much agree rick. And, FWIW, I see nothing wrong with that. Regardless of whether it's your way or my way it's clear that all involved parties get exactly what they are looking for and that's really all that matters.

Agreed. I think we are both comfortable not only with our differences in sourcing p4p, but also the types of girls that we spend time with ITC and why we do so.

Along the same WTF line as the girls telling me about their fucked up life crap, another interesting phenomenon I've been running into recently are the girls that want some unusual things during OTC visits. Some of my repeat girls (including my local fav) have been bringing these things up. Now I'm game for almost anything, but I am starting to wonder if this is another aspect of the personality type that I tend find with my particular approach.

When this run is over, I have to write a book. ::)

yoda57us
01-10-2011, 05:50 AM
Now I'm game for almost anything, but I am starting to wonder if this is another aspect of the personality type that I tend find with my particular approach.


I would have to say it is rick-and this is not meant as a judgment of them. Honestly I've been with several escorts who have done porn in the last two or three years and they won't let their escort customers do half the shit to them that they did in the films they shot. I don't know what the motivation, outside of money, is for rough sex but I also admit it's not really my cup of tea anyway.

Casual Observer
01-10-2011, 04:02 PM
While I sympathize with any woman who has to work in the sex industry I'm not really interested in a pity party no matter how good a woman looks. Sex work is tough and I find that women who can laugh at life, and laugh at themselves seem to handle it the best. If a gal presents her life as one of misery I guess it would depress me as well but that honestly is the type of lady I tend to avoid.

I agree.

rickdugan
01-11-2011, 04:59 PM
While I sympathize with any woman who has to work in the sex industry I'm not really interested in a pity party no matter how good a woman looks. Sex work is tough and I find that women who can laugh at life, and laugh at themselves seem to handle it the best. If a gal presents her life as one of misery I guess it would depress me as well but that honestly is the type of lady I tend to avoid.


I agree.

I think you are assuming that the girls that I'm referring to were acting miserable. Usually far from it. What is actually the most depressing part to me is the almost matter-of-fact, and sometimes even chirpy, way that some of them relay this information.

yoda57us
01-11-2011, 07:12 PM
I think you are assuming that the girls that I'm referring to were acting miserable. Usually far from it. What is actually the most depressing part to me is the almost matter-of-fact, and sometimes even chirpy, way that some of them relay this information.

I'm not really assuming anything rick. I try never to do that. The "matter-of-fact" part is, to me, actually a good thing. That means that they have accepted things and are moving on.

Rookie2010
01-12-2011, 08:13 AM
Only a convicted felon would openly talk about being a convicted felon... lol

rickdugan
01-12-2011, 07:09 PM
Only a convicted felon would openly talk about being a convicted felon... lol

When dealing with any collection of human beings you will hear any number of things. Human interactions and discussions take all forms, even in a SC. Add in the fact that the dancer population includes plenty of girls that are not particularly polished and there you go.

yoda57us
01-13-2011, 09:52 AM
Over the years I've come to realize that some people are just prone to releasing far too much information about themselves. This is by no means an affliction specific to dancers but some of them certainly qualify. I'm not a guy who asks a lot of questions inside the club. This has served me well over the years. I listen way more than I talk and that helps me figure out pretty quickly what sort of gal I am dealing with.

KS_Stevia
01-13-2011, 11:10 AM
This brings to mind a question, perhaps one of the ladies can answer it or perhaps someone will do a small amount of internet research and answer...

In places that require dancers to have a license, does have a criminal record effect your ability to get said license?

I feel like the answer will be 'no', but I'm curious.

Yes.Having certain criminal convictions will prevent you from being able to get a license. It depends on each municipality or state though.

Here are the rules for Vegas:

http://www.insidervlv.com/sheriffscard.html

KS_Stevia
01-13-2011, 11:12 AM
I'm sure I've met strippers who had done time for felonies and I've overheard lots of conversations. But I generally didn't make a lot of friends at the clubs and would ABSOLUTELY stay the hell away from any girl talking about being a criminal.

Casual Observer
01-15-2011, 08:10 AM
I'm not a guy who asks a lot of questions inside the club. This has served me well over the years. I listen way more than I talk and that helps me figure out pretty quickly what sort of gal I am dealing with.

Agreed in full.

JoeUnCool
01-25-2011, 08:20 AM
Over the years I have met more than a few strippers that have served jail time for a variety of felonies, though most often involving drugs. While I would not call this widespread, it does make a lot of sense in places that do not require licenses.

Last week I came across one of my favorites in a club down south who had been a guest of the state for 6 months. During my visit, I was entertained by her stories about her time behind bars.

As a side note, while it was good to see her - particularly after her shift was over :D - I had been consoling myself quite well during her absence with a few other girls in her club and will miss that a lot. In fact, during her absence girls would come by to almost gleefully let me know that she was behind bars and to offer themselves as alternatives, but of course when she is there no others will come near me (I think that they have always been afraid of her). But anyway...

I have not really seen this discussed much here or elsewhere and I'd be interested to hear how many others in here come across girls with prison records.

for me, it would depend on what the arrest was for.

escorting, well that kinda goes with the territory.
drugs, no thanks. i would be afraid of having stuff stolen.
some type of robbery, no, not going there. a girl in vegas was arrested for trying to break into slot machines. me: umm, no thanks on coming to my room, i'm good. she called me in the middle of the night, thankfully i just put the phone down and went back to sleep.
illegal possession of firearms. no, no thanks. i'm good.

JoeUnCool
01-25-2011, 08:24 AM
Over the years I've come to realize that some people are just prone to releasing far too much information about themselves. This is by no means an affliction specific to dancers but some of them certainly qualify. I'm not a guy who asks a lot of questions inside the club. This has served me well over the years. I listen way more than I talk and that helps me figure out pretty quickly what sort of gal I am dealing with.

+1 here. i listen. makes them open their mouth, and you would be shocked what the girls share. real names, addresses, phone numbers, marital status, kids, what the kids do, family info, tons of stuff. they don't typically share the arrests unless you can put up with the drivel for a long time or can put the pieces together.

rickdugan
02-12-2011, 10:15 AM
This thread really came to mind the other night. I was in a road club and had the following discussion with a dancer...

After a few minutes of get-to-know-you chatter, we fast forward to the following:

Her: Things have been tough around here lately.

Me: That sucks. Have you thought about finding another club?

Her: I went to [XXX] down the street but I can't dance there because they do criminal checks. I got busted a few times for "dates."

Me: Wow, I'll never understand why the cops around here waste time with that crap.

Her: I know, right? They got me three times and each time it was a young good looking guy who said he just wanted a blow job. The next one is a felony and I already spent 11 months in jail.

Me: 11 months? For agreeing to have sex for money?

Her: No, the jail time was for some dope.

Me: Ouch, but hey, sometimes we do what we have to.

Her: Exactly, but I'm afraid of going back - it was horrible. Are you a cop?

Me: Do I sound like I'm from around here? Fuck no! (I lean forward and whisper in her ear) What do I have to do to prove that I'm not?

Her: (She opens her thong to give me access to her vagina) Touch me there...

I'll leave the rest of this encounter to the imagination. ;)

Sometimes life is stranger than fiction.