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jester214
02-19-2011, 07:24 PM
I would think the line between some male escort agency owners and pimps could be quite thin...
cherryblossomsinspring
02-19-2011, 10:34 PM
I agree totally. But it works both ways. Here in my Ohio area a dancer working for an agency apparently killed a customer running over him. Who knows exactly who was at fault.
http://newstalkradiowhio.com/localnews/2011/02/exotic-dances-pleas-guilty-in.html
FBR
hahh lol ummm so she ran over a customer? Who knows who's at fault? Come now like this guy wasn't stalking the hell out of the girl and trying to get her to stop. What was he doing in the street in the first place? No this doesnt' happen both ways I think she killed his stalking scary ass on purpose. Sounds to me that he couldn't just have fun in the club and leave well enough alone.
How many times has a guy tried to get in my face and get in the front of my car trying to push for something more. Btw I've never stripped in a club for I always felt I would view men differently. But my sister stripped for years and she was always using those 6inch shoes for more than just dancing. Her tires got slashed on occasion. Hmm and some guy that got out of prison was trying to always follow her home. She thought he was cool, but he used to leave messages on her answering machine saying he would kill her and slit her throat.
Goes both ways?? I don't think so.
cherryblossomsinspring
02-19-2011, 10:35 PM
actually jack there is not enough information in the post to figure out what he's paying per session. These could be over-nights or, at the least, several hour long appointments. Also, a monthly arrangement is more of a sugar-daddy kind of deal and most of the time it's not tracked as an hourly sort of thing.
The going rate in nyc isn't that much higher than la, chicago, boston or miami but there are a lot of variables.
In any event, if the guy can afford it it's his business what he does with his money.
agreed, but ca gets the high numbers too!
cherryblossomsinspring
02-19-2011, 10:37 PM
Oh please....
I would only see this if it was a "madam" But pimp? Hell 2 the no.
cherryblossomsinspring
02-19-2011, 10:40 PM
I would find a dancer I really liked, then establish relationship by seeing her at the club over a few weeks and then offer her $4-6k per month. Regular income without strings is very appealing.
Now with these numbers I would want to strip.
My sister had many "bf's" and yes they used to spend over $2,500 just to see her strip and dance around in her socks, she didn't have to sleep with many of them.
Many were entertainers that found her enchanting.
cherryblossomsinspring
02-19-2011, 10:44 PM
I think that Jack posted in response the some of the girls' comments on the previous page, where a few of them discussed age limits and/or whether he had to at least be a little attractive. Now these girls were speaking theoretically anyway, so who knows what the reality would be if they actually escorted for a living, but there it is.
Having said this, I found Jack's post inapplicable for a few other reasons, not the least of which is the sad fact that many guys would gladly screw almost anything with a heartbeat and a vagina. There's a reason why the sex industry is largely tilted in one direction. A woman would have to be pretty darned hideous to not be able to get laid by someone halfway decent looking.
Well the fact is even the ugliest woman can get laid 10 times faster than the hottest guy. It's just the birds and the bees and the importance men place on sex. So they pay to play whether is in a relationship with the wife and her desires for the largest house on the block or the street walker saying $40.00 for bj's baby.
cherryblossomsinspring
02-19-2011, 10:51 PM
My ex, a very attractive 24 years old at the time, escorted as a "clean" escort for about a year, and had me act as her driver/bodyguard. She was, of course, frequently offered money to do the things she didn't do, and sometimes quite a bit of money, but she always said no.
There was one job that really weirded me out. She came out all flustered and kind of wide eyed and giggly. I asked her what was up. Turns out the customer had been a very well mannered and extremely attractive 25 year old guy who had tipped her $300 for the dancing and conversation. He suffered from terrible social anxiety and agoraphobia, and this dude - good looking, intelligent, respectful, and rich - was essentially housebound by his phobias and never got out to meet girls, and paid escorts. When she told him she did not perform sex acts for money, he was very cool about it and as I said, tipped her for time and dances.
Before she left, he said - very shyly according to her - "I realize you don't do those things for money, but I really like you a lot and i don't want you to leave. Would you consider spending the night if I made it worth your time to spend it with me?"
And laid $25,000 on the table.
And she apologized, and said he was really sweet, but she wasn't a prostitute, and left. And came to the car and said to me - "If I'd met this guy at a bar I'd have fucked his brains out for free. But I don't have sex for money, ever, and I won't cross that line." I told her she was retarded and said I'd turn the car around and take her right back there, and I'd better get my usual 10%, LMAO. She said no and of course I didn't, bu DAMN - $25k to fuck someone you'd not only sleep with normally, but would consider dating long term?! Where's the issue?! LMAO!
She was also offered by a regular - and also turned down - a paid condo in Hawaii, car with title in her name (she was to pick it out "within reason", which was later determined to be around $60k new), $10k/mo allowance, paid travel back & forth from Hawaii every 60 to 90 days to visit the mainland and family, and her BF (me at the time) could even live with her provided she was available to this guy exclusively and without BF drama when he was in town. I again told her she was crazy, she again told me to quit questioning her morals. She did think about that one for a while though, lol.
For some people it really isn't about money, period. :shrug:
I've seen MM turn down $6k in cash ITC for a night back at his hotel, and she's open about the fact that she has no issues fucking for money. She says her price varies according to the prospective client, and that it's gone up significantly in the last 2 years of being with me, lol.
As for the other side of the coin - I've never paid for sex directly, but I can see the draw and the "you always pay for it anyway" mindset clearly. Lord knows I've spent enough on strippers that I could have had an aweful lot of sex with some very attractive escorts for the same or less. But I like the atmosphere and the fun of the club, and - count my blessings - sex is not something that is ALL that hard for me to come by, though i realize that will not always been the case, lol.
And not all guys will fuck anything with a pussy and a pulse. At 35 years old and sexually active since 17, I've been with ~60 women, and I'm proud to say that there are only 2 or 3 in there that I regret, and that I regret them for reasons that have nothing to do with their looks or other such factors. I'm not God's gift to women - far from it - but I'm fairly good looking and present myself well. If I lowered my standards my count could EASILY be 10x that; but I am not the guy who's going to leave with that chick at the end of the night, and never will be. My buddy Rod is way hotter than I am, and has been with less than half as many women. What I don't get is that half of THEM didn't meet MY minimum standards, lol. He's just a weird case. :p
But I know plenty of guys - some of them very attractive in all aspects - who will fuck anything that comes by and is willing. I don't get it, but I have to say that about half the guys I know would fall into that category. :shrug:
See this is what I wanted to do " clean escorting" but didn't have the body guard to be there for me so I passed on these positions. I would do only "clean" escorting but can't find a reputable place that pays well.
cherryblossomsinspring
02-19-2011, 11:06 PM
So many dancers, ahem lazy hoes, have been working out of clubs so long I think they have forgotten that it is illegal. Vice doesn't send the ugliest dude on squad. They often pick a guy you would probably fuck for free and the $ just seems like an extra bonus. Can't hurt right cause he's so whatever you'd do it anyway. Why not make some extra money? All $ is not good $. I did a dance with a girl and I looked down and this bitch was fucking this man. I walked out on the bitch and she had nerve enough to tell me I shoulda looked out for her. If you make decisions like that you need to be able to watch your own damn back. When the shit hits the fan it's my job. You'll just go find another club/manager who'll let/encourage you to do what you do.
I had a roommate once who took it to another level. We lived around a bunch of hotels and still more than 3 times I came into the house and some guy is like,"hey Divyne." I go by real name only otc. I do double take a this is the mofo from the front row left by satellite. She's like this is my friend blah blah I've been seeing him for *** amount of years. I didn't believe her but let it go twice. The third time it was a guy who was a known pussybuyer from another club who had just started coming to this club so I knew she was lying. Are you so crazy lazy dumb that you will turn tricks, random ones at that, out of where you live? She couldn't understand why I was pissed. She said you have friends over. Friends not clients bitch!
What if one of these crazy mofos got high/drunk and came in my room and raped me? What if one of these freaks got zooted and just came back to where they knew available pussy was and broke in and raped/strangled/murdered both of us? I had to move. It just was NOT safe. And to top it all off she let one of em spend the nite, well rest of morning. He leaves right as my friend is coming over to take me to brkfast. Her bf shows up seconds later. He goes in her room and finds condom wrapper edge. He goes crazy! I hear the first slap and I tell my friend let's go. I come home and she asks me y didn't I help her. I am not condoning violence against women, but what did she want me to help her from? Being a secret hoe. I moved out right after that. She just couldn't see what was wrong with her behavior.
WOW !!!!!!!! This is why I would never live with my sister, for she's done some stuff like this. I keep it on the cam. Wow sounds like you knew her! lol
hahh lol ummm so she ran over a customer? Who knows who's at fault? Come now like this guy wasn't stalking the hell out of the girl and trying to get her to stop. What was he doing in the street in the first place? No this doesnt' happen both ways I think she killed his stalking scary ass on purpose. Sounds to me that he couldn't just have fun in the club and leave well enough alone.
How many times has a guy tried to get in my face and get in the front of my car trying to push for something more. Btw I've never stripped in a club for I always felt I would view men differently. But my sister stripped for years and she was always using those 6inch shoes for more than just dancing. Her tires got slashed on occasion. Hmm and some guy that got out of prison was trying to always follow her home. She thought he was cool, but he used to leave messages on her answering machine saying he would kill her and slit her throat.
Goes both ways?? I don't think so. She may have not been the provider he thought he was paying for or maybe it was a "cash and dash" situation. Who knows? But I can't imagine a guy who got his moneys worth would throw himself in front of her vehicle. The legal system will sort it all out.
Rookie2010
02-20-2011, 01:08 PM
^ It's hard to say what happened, considering the guy is dead, she very well could have robbed him (or cash and dash as you put it)
yoda57us
02-20-2011, 04:18 PM
agreed, but ca gets the high numbers too!
I agree. Actually LA was on my list. The only time I've ever paid more than $300 for an hour was on a really adorable girl in the LA area a few years ago.
yoda57us
02-20-2011, 04:36 PM
I think the girls who prefer stripping do so because they do not enjoy sex as much as escorts do.
I don't really agree with this at all based on the conversations I've had with dancers and escorts who have done both over the years.
Just as enjoying being naked has little to do with why dancers dance, enjoyment of the sex act has little to do with why women escort. It's a job they all do for money. If given a choice most women wouldn't want to be naked in front of strangers any more than they would want to sleep with them.
Actually the reason every escort I know who prefers it over dancing says it's because there is less BS. Dancing, or at least being good at it, is hard. Separating a guy from his money on a tease is not an easy way to make a living in spite of what a lot of people may think. Escorting is certainly not easy but the initial sale is. When a guy calls or emails he has already decided to see you. The hard part most definitely comes later but the sale is already made and both parties know why they are in the room.
yoda57us
02-20-2011, 04:43 PM
She may have not been the provider he thought he was paying for or maybe it was a "cash and dash" situation. Who knows? But I can't imagine a guy who got his moneys worth would throw himself in front of her vehicle. The legal system will sort it all out.
I agree. Based on what is posted on the internet it's hard to say exactly what happened. I'm sure there is a lot more detail to the story than what is being posted.
That being said, in my estimation it's hardly a draw when it comes to who is more at risk. Women who escort risk their lives every time a stranger knocks on the door. As a now retired lady used to tell me, there are worse things than getting busted.
SerenaSin
02-20-2011, 04:56 PM
I don't really agree with this at all based on the conversations I've had with dancers and escorts who have done both over the years.
Just as enjoying being naked has little to do with why dancers dance, enjoyment of the sex act has little to do with why women escort. It's a job they all do for money. If given a choice most women wouldn't want to be naked in front of strangers any more than they would want to sleep with them.
Actually the reason every escort I know who prefers it over dancing says it's because there is less BS. Dancing, or at least being good at it, is hard. Separating a guy from his money on a tease is not an easy way to make a living in spite of what a lot of people may think. Escorting is certainly not easy but the initial sale is. When a guy calls or emails he has already decided to see you. The hard part most definitely comes later but the sale is already made and both parties know why they are in the room.
yes, times a thousand!
there are escorts who don't particularly enjoy sex, but find that it makes them a good living without having to play hours of stupid mind-games and ego-stroking in HOPES of making a $20 sale.
And there are dancers like me, who would NEVER fuck a dude in the club (for lots of reasons), but have a very healthy sex drive. (I would consider escorting, the reasons I don't do it have nothing to do with "sex drive" or morals, I have a boyfriend and wouldn't wanna get busted or be alone with horny strangers in secluded rooms with no bouncers to help me or deal with HIV risk, etc.)
Not saying anyone in this thread is doing this, but this reminds me of guys im dancing for who try to grab my pussy, solicit me for sex, date me OTC, or whatever... and when I politely decline (or tell them to fuckin stop) they assume it's because I'm "prude" or "boring" or "hate men" or "dont like sex/fun". I can guarantee i'm into way kinkier shit than them, but I have nothing to prove to em so I guess they'll never know...
yoda57us
02-20-2011, 05:24 PM
Not saying anyone in this thread is doing this, but this reminds me of guys im dancing for who try to grab my pussy, solicit me for sex, date me OTC, or whatever... and when I politely decline (or tell them to fuckin stop) they assume it's because I'm "prude" or "boring" or "hate men" or "dont like sex/fun".
Bingo! Of course, part of that is their fragile male ego being deflated!
I'm pretty friendly with a woman in the South Jersey area who dances under one name, escorts under another and works in fetish dungeons under yet another. I see her as an escort, I've never seen her strip but in her club she is a totally clean dancer and she doesn't even dream of trying to recruit OTC customers. As an escort she turns down guys who want to be pissed on, tied up or otherwise dominated. As a dom she never has sex. She chooses to work this way because she feels that staying within her boundaries in each roll keeps her sane and helps keep the psychos away...or at least to a minimum. It's all about making a living. Thinking you know all there is to know about a woman based on a job she does in the sex industry is just dumb.
So Fine Divyne
02-20-2011, 05:41 PM
Not always. In fact, There are many pimps are very efficient business managers and take quite good care of their girls. No, not the majority, and no, I still don't condone their "business"; but just so the record is straight, there are pimps out there who take care of their girls money and even manage investments for them.
I will second this just because I am honest. I know one guy from Mphs who moved to Atl and one from Chicago who had this down to a business. Okay, first off the girls could not keep any $ on their person or to themselves. The way it worked was you give all your $ to them, and you get your own apt. New girls have to stay with him or bottom girl, but after a certain amount of time you get your own place. Every chick that messed with these dudes had a car, apt, bank account and went to some kind of school in the day. The extravagance/cost of car/apt depended on your earnings. They had babysitters for keeping children and all needs were met. Hair, nails, clothes, groceries, extras were all met. Of course, having a pimp you couldn't go to clubs, bars to hang out/party or have a real social life. But, I will honestly say, my friend Tandra hooked up with one of these dudes and did way better than she was doing on her own. She was well on her way to being a druggie dope hoe. At least somebody, was managing and trying to get her out of her habit and help her make/save $. I don't need a pimp and never will.
For the lost girls out there who need guidance not to self destruct may they find their savior in the streets as opposed to their exploiter. It runs both ends of the spectrum. May luck be on the lost girls side. I've seen pimps and girls in the club turn troubled girls into rambling fucking druggie junkies. Some pimps don't deal with druggie girls. A lot more do because it makes girls more controllable. I'm from the town where straight dancing girls have to dodge/run from pimps in the club because even alleged upscale managers let them in because they have girls there. They work reliable schedules, are easy to control and give little problems because a phone call from management is all it takes to get your pimp up there on your ass. My last manager, Ms.C, even said she liked the girls that had pimping in their life cause they were less problems. It's not all what you see on TV people. There are gorilla head banger beat a bitch dudes too. I'm from the Dirty South!
Almost Jaded
02-20-2011, 05:44 PM
One of our GF's is an SG girl, does other nude modeling, and strips in clubs. She comes off fun but withdrawn, and very shy (she has sever anxiety and stripping is her worst nightmare - she does it partly to help her overcome this, she's a very strong woman) Guys hit on her all the time (of course) and sometimes get really rude when she shuts them down. She's been called a prude, told she "just needs to get fucked properly", and all that and more, like many of the girls here I'm sure. For some reason she gets it more than most though; maybe because of her alt look, her small size, her persona - who knows, but she gets it a LOT.
The funny thing(s) is twofold - 1 - she's the most insane chick in the bedroom I've ever known, and the craziest things those asshats can dream up doesn't hold a candle to the reality of her in the sack. 2 - she has ZERO compunction about hooking up with a guy she met ITC - IF SHE'S INTO HIM AND SHE WANTS TO. Hell, that's how she ended up with me/us, lol. That fact just makes it soo much funnier when guys make those comments, LMAO.
EDIT - I was replying to Serena and Yoda up there, and So Fie posted while I was typing.
That's how the guys I know or know of work for the most part. They keep tabs on the girls money because most of these girls would spend it on dope and partying when left to their own devices. These guys keep them clean and on track - one of them even sets up retirement funds for them. The pimps in question take a cut and manage their own investment portfolios with the benefit of all the girls money being in the pile so there's a lot to play with. One of them has been VERY successful as a day trader and real estate investor, and his girls benefit from it because it's their money that allows him to do it. He no joke puts his girls on a 5 or 10 year plan and it's up to them to keep it up or go when their "contract" is up.
Yes - this is BY FAR the exception! But they're out there. These dudes girls speak the world of these pimps, like someone would talk about a therapist or doctor or priest who saved their lives.
Besides - the line is kinda blurry. How is a pimp all that different from the owner of an escort service? It's kinda grey, lol. Hell, I've been accused of being a pimp. I have 3 girlfriends, they're all strippers, they all live in my house, they all contribute to the household finances like in most cohabitation relationship households. Sometimes I have to get on them for not working when they're supposed to/said they were, and help them with their hustle (just because my professional career has largely been in sales and sales training/management and as a SC junkie and custie, I have good insight). So am I a pimp? :wtf:
What if you have a GF/wife who goes out and works and her money contributes to the house? Just because she doesn't work in the sex industry, it's the same situation, isn't it? What about stay at home wives who's husbands work, and the women drive them to make more fo the family and improve their circumstances? Gold diggers in general? Are they pimps, too? :wtf:
AlmostJaded- I'm not saying your a pimp but to an outsider your situation does look a bit "pimpish". Getting on them about going to work? IMHO, unless I am married to you, how much I work should be completely up to me. Even in a marriage, hell, if I'm pulling my weight who's business is it how much I work or how much I make. In regards to helping with the hustle.....mmm I dunno. I guess it seems to me that for a " boyfriend " you have play an unusually large role in their work life. Are they the same way with you and your job? Again, this isn't met to be an accusation, just giving my opinion from the outside looking in.
Almost Jaded
02-21-2011, 12:01 AM
It's hard to explain simply.
MM & I are engaged. The other 2 are girlfriends, one to both of us and oe more just to me. These relationships are taken seriously (though MM wishes openly that #2 was more FWB, they don't always get along). Both of them are free to date as well - fair's fair - as long as everyone knows what's going on with who. #1 doesn't choose to at all, #2 has "hookups" from time to time and is open to the idea of a steady relationship outside of ours, maybe still involving me, maybe not, depends on her mood and how she & MM are getting on, lol. Just so the situation is clear.
It's not that I get after them for working - that's up to them. But when "they" (any one of them independently or any combination thereof) makes a commitment to a given financial obligation and then misses days on end at the club for no real reason, and isn't going to meet said obligation - well, that's not cool in any relationship. When one of them misses a big weekend for no real reason and then bitches about money - well, I don't want to hear it, lol. This happens more than one might think. I have a particular work ethic. I don't hold others to my standard, but I hold others to those standards that they commit to of they're own free will. And I don't like to hear complaining when money issues are a result of slacking off at work (which is different than the club being slow, that's not their fault).
Does that make sense?
More specifically, all 3 of them are insanely hot, very smart, and have been dancing for years (1 year for the least experienced). They all have it down. With my income plus 3 of them, we could do pretty well as a household! Yet we're frequently up and down, sometimes "paycheck to paycheck", because one or all three will decide they're not in the mood to work. That makes zero sense to me.
I do account, however, for the fact that I wasn't so responsible and goal oriented in my early 20's, and they're all a lot younger than I. So ultimately it's their decision day to day - but if/when they talk to me about it, my opinion is what it is, lol.
maximvsv
02-21-2011, 12:34 AM
No, I did not miss your point. You missed mine. Your comment is so unreasonable I figured under those circumstances you would continue to show that unreasonability by asking for your $1 change. You really think that an escort should only charge 33-50 per hour to have sex with strangers??? Against sex for money or not....that is just plain ignorant. Don't bother to respond and even try to justify your belief.
I've seen ads with rates like that. Even if it's just to get calls, it shows that there are people looking in that price range.
jack0177057
02-21-2011, 10:02 AM
I know you won't understand this jack but many guys who pay for sex regularly are not without a companion or desperate. You like movie stars, that's cool, it's your money. Some of us just like an uninhibited roll in the sack with a beautiful woman who's only expectation in return is a good time and the cash on the dresser.
No need to get sensitive about this, Yoda. I was not judging you. In fact, I said in another post that, if I ever break up with my current GF, - I'm taking one of those sex tourism cruises where they provide you with a buffet of beautiful escorts and you can exchange them as often as you please.
There have been a few times in my life when I could have used an escort, - but, having seen the movie "Risky Business", - I was too afraid to make the call. (In case you don't remember, the first escort that shows up at the door was not what he expected.... [can't say more without getting into trouble with the PC police]).
Also, I'm very picky regarding the girls I want to have sex with (at least while I'm sober), and I wouldn't call an escort, based solely on a pic in an ad. I've heard that there are too many scams with the pics in those ads.
yoda57us
02-21-2011, 05:33 PM
No need to get sensitive about this, Yoda. I was not judging you. In fact, I said in another post that, if I ever break up with my current GF, - I'm taking one of those sex tourism cruises where they provide you with a buffet of beautiful escorts and you can exchange them as often as you please.
I'm not sensitive about it at all jack. Merely pointing out that there is more to life than what you perceive there to be.
cherryblossomsinspring
02-22-2011, 04:49 AM
I agree. Based on what is posted on the internet it's hard to say exactly what happened. I'm sure there is a lot more detail to the story than what is being posted.
That being said, in my estimation it's hardly a draw when it comes to who is more at risk. Women who escort risk their lives every time a stranger knocks on the door. As a now retired lady used to tell me, there are worse things than getting busted.
OOh yes I agree and I have read enough scary posts to pass on being on the front line.
Actually funny thing happened to me last night. I'm signed up on one of those pay for a pal sites about a year ago. It's a totally pg site that basically says pay to hang out with a friend. I never got a call for a whole year until last night at 2am.
This guy was bsing saying he was going to be in ca and lived in fl. I was half asleep and originally thought... " did i actually put my cell phone on this stupid site"?
The guy was kinda nasty had the personality of a 12 year old but said he was 40. He went to ask me questions about what I look for in a guy. I had to keep referring to the name of the site and that this wasn't a real date but a payment to accompany him to any of the items listed from pottery making to museums. Every attempt to get back to business only infuriated the guy and he labeled me as being "difficult". Yes anyone that says no and refuses your "chump change" would be difficult of course. He continued to make some unwanted attacks asking if I was so naive that I didn't think sex would be expected after a date. I had to tell him this is not RENT A HO! This is a friend site and the rules of the site specifically state that you aren't even supposed to touch me. He continued on about how he just signed up and made the awful mistake of saying he met someone on the same site a month ago and paid her $150.00 to sleep with him. He also stated I sounded too sophisticated and organized as if It was an insult.
I told the guy if he had so much fun with that girl he needs to give her a call and have fun again. He can always check the streets of his local bad area to find a street walker or he can also break open the local yellow pages for an escort. He gave me the same dumb statement most men make when they want to push their desires on someone that's just not interested. Saying don't you have needs? I had to do the boring and annoying task of telling a man almost double my age that apparently with strip clubs, street walkers, prostitutes, escorts, phone sex, dirty mags, porn, cam girls, apparently women's needs are unlike those of men's. That's why I have a job duh??? I even went to tell him how funny it is he brought this conversation up right after I read a thread about "how much would you charge". Funny how life is right?
He also didn't realize how he had lied about just signing up to this site and yet said he met someone from here a month or two ago. Dumb or stupid? perhaps both. Of course this guy's ego was getting the best of him, for he rattled along with how hot he is and how he can get girls any time. I had to tell him , first what man calls a random woman at 2am in the morning off a pg site looking for sex 2 weeks in advance? Seriously if you got it like that you shouldn't have to plan to get laid , you should be able to step off a plane and have girls lined up that will want you. Hell if you're that hot you should get laid on the plane.
I ended the call with some helpful, don't call women at 2am hints and how if he really wants a woman to want him, the last thing he should ever come at her with is his penis. He should focus on what she would want first and for most. As I thought I was "Straight eye for the Straight guy", he responded with " ooh you're turning me on now". I realized I didn't make a dent in educating this loser so I said got to go back to sleep take care and good luck with finding a high class hooker for $150.00 also someone that wants to hang out for several hours before that too, especially with your personality.
A real winner huh?
I just updated my page today and removed my number. For future reference someone will have to send me a message detailing their request. I also hiked up my rate on there as well, to avoid the losers.
What was most horrible listening to this guy was the amount of anger he had. He harbors such hatred for women and was oblivious to the fact that he didn't do a good job hiding it. These are the psychotic types that keep me away from ever becoming an escort.
He even went to state that he's a member on a cam site ( one thankfully I'm not on) and says oooh the girls will do whatever you want. Which is not necessarily the case. Every girl has limits , but I think he's one of those clients that requests girls to do things that hurt themselves or demands something disgraceful. I have chatted with a few of these types and have refused their requests telling them to go find someone else.
So now more than ever would it have to be several thousands before I would even give someone the time of day. For in the cam world I can make $300.00+ in an hr and with phone $60-200.00 in an hour. depending on the caller and tips. But I'm safe sitting back at home and I can get away just by shutting the computer off. No commuting, not fake clients wasting time, no worries of some guy trying to corner me in for a feel.
The sad thing is that there are some really great clients out there that I've heard girls talk about. How respectful they were and generous with tips. Unfortunately there are way to many psycho people that have done some horrible things to women and for that reason alone, many girls take a pass on this position. There was even a cop going around rapping girls for free saying if they told he would arrest them. Talked about being damned if you do and damned if you don't .
Any how the site blocked the guy from the site so that he doesn't get to log back in. Also how stupid of him to call me with his phone number showing? dumb people!
jack0177057
02-22-2011, 07:09 PM
I'm not sensitive about it at all jack. Merely pointing out that there is more to life than what you perceive there to be.
Of course there is... I have a high opinion of myself, but I realize I'm not omniscient... Not yet.
cherryblossomsinspring
02-23-2011, 06:25 AM
I personally am against sex for money but I would think $99.00 to be a reasonable price for few hours of sex. Anything above that would be too much in my opinion.
Ohh wow did you say a few hours for $99.00? ohh my ooh my....see with that price you end up paying 10times that to get the girl to leave.... or is that really a girl? hmmm
cherryblossomsinspring
02-23-2011, 06:32 AM
She may have not been the provider he thought he was paying for or maybe it was a "cash and dash" situation. Who knows? But I can't imagine a guy who got his moneys worth would throw himself in front of her vehicle. The legal system will sort it all out.
Hmmm I don't know that's possible. But what was he trying to pay for? A car dance? A radiator spin? I think if he offered money it wasn't for a lap dance. I mean will someone jump in front of a vehicle over $20 bucks? And why would he hand her money? Sounds like an indecent proposal where NO wasn't an acceptable response.
cherryblossomsinspring
02-23-2011, 06:51 AM
I don't really agree with this at all based on the conversations I've had with dancers and escorts who have done both over the years.
Just as enjoying being naked has little to do with why dancers dance, enjoyment of the sex act has little to do with why women escort. It's a job they all do for money. If given a choice most women wouldn't want to be naked in front of strangers any more than they would want to sleep with them.
Actually the reason every escort I know who prefers it over dancing says it's because there is less BS. Dancing, or at least being good at it, is hard. Separating a guy from his money on a tease is not an easy way to make a living in spite of what a lot of people may think. Escorting is certainly not easy but the initial sale is. When a guy calls or emails he has already decided to see you. The hard part most definitely comes later but the sale is already made and both parties know why they are in the room.
I don't agree with that comment either. Some girls have bfs, hell some even have gfs. But there are some clients that are just down right grotesque. Many of the girls wouldn't even want to sit on his lap without the thought of money being made. So he's getting a hot girl to play with him and she's getting paid.
Also escorts are not nymphos that just have to have it all the time. People get that confused. It's a job like any other but some enjoy what they do.
Regardless of what certain guys may say about stripping, it is sexual in a different way. Many men actually have orgasms easily with a lap dance. Now why exactly would you want to sleep with that guy? Enough grinding and enough movement and walla done! So from my point of view it's one of the cheapest ways to get off.
I think one of these days I'm going to stop in one on a weekend and see what it's really like. I've only been to one and it's was a hole in the wall place with only 4 guys there. But I think I'll go just to see exactly what women go through in this environment.
Honestly I was trying to find a male strip club, but they are almost non existent unless you go to a predominantly gay area.:(
cherryblossomsinspring
02-23-2011, 07:12 AM
AlmostJaded- I'm not saying your a pimp but to an outsider your situation does look a bit "pimpish". Getting on them about going to work? IMHO, unless I am married to you, how much I work should be completely up to me. Even in a marriage, hell, if I'm pulling my weight who's business is it how much I work or how much I make. In regards to helping with the hustle.....mmm I dunno. I guess it seems to me that for a " boyfriend " you have play an unusually large role in their work life. Are they the same way with you and your job? Again, this isn't met to be an accusation, just giving my opinion from the outside looking in.
I actually felt this as well. I also saw the post below this but I kinda felt like wow this guy is banking on his fiance and also this side piece that they both hit.
This is one of the reasons why I'm single. I just can't see taking my clothes off for a bunch of men and then having to lie down next to one saying hey babe did you bring home your half of the rent? I just would feel slightly cheapened by this.
When I did regular work and had a bf I didn't pay rent at all. I put grocieries in the fridge and paid some utilities but never did I spend a dime on rent. To me if I was spitting things down the center than I just gave myself the fuckable roommate status. He was from the old school and had "the man provides" view even though I made atleast 10-20,000 more a year than he did. My money went to gifts for the holidays for his family and my own. He also was fully aware that as a woman we spend more money on shoes, clothes,hair, make up etc. He never gave me any issues about this at all.
I've met men after him and they had that new regime ooh you have yours and I have mine and lets move in and split everything. I told them the only way that was happening is if I never have to sleep with you again. You want a roommate then I don't sleep with my roommates. Pay the bills or I can pay them alone by myself.
Why have one guy trying to split half , when many men would be happy to pay it all. Soon after that split I had someone sending me money just because and never slept with this guy ever.
So I will have to say man you got it made if you have 2 girls that sleep with you and pay bills in the home too. I kinda was like wow she complains about not having money and he's like well umm get to grinding on some dudes babe, don't be mad that you're broke.
I can understand why people would think this sounded somewhat on the "pimpish" tip.
Laxman
02-23-2011, 06:41 PM
Ohh wow did you say a few hours for $99.00? ohh my ooh my....see with that price you end up paying 10times that to get the girl to leave.... or is that really a girl? hmmm
The point I am trying to make is guys too often find themselves in despair about women and they seem to think escorts and strippers are the only solution. They are blinded towards all the women out there who could light their world. There is alway one woman in the crowd, in the corner watching you quietly. And, interesting enough she happens to be the most beautiful woman in the crowd. Once a man recognizes this simple fact he will realize that paying more than $99 to an escort is too much.
Almost Jaded
02-23-2011, 07:28 PM
I paid 100% of the bills before serious car accident put me on long term disability 10 months ago. Even then, I would tell MM I didn't want to hear it if she complained about money but took nights off that she usually worked. I got her an $18/hour full time job with benefits when she wanted to ake a break from danceing.
After just a couple of months, she couldn't handle it - missed all the free time and sleeping in, lol. Can't say I blame her - would LOVE to be able to use my sales skills and looks 18-25 hours a week and make the same money I did using my sales skills and working 40-60 hours a week. Cash, too! Must be nice.
GF #1 was just a roommate for 18 months. She paid a fixed monthly amount, and had a private room. "Normal" arrangement.
When GF #1 became a GF, she VOLUNTEERED to keep paying the same rent. Wouldn't allow me to take less or none. I tried.
Now I'm on long term disability. My checks cover the mortgage, car payment on the one that's not paid off, insurance, and most of the bills with NOTHING left over. The girls have, like in any relationship, worked it out so we're not broke and have gas and food.
GF#1 volunteered to pay the utilities in lieu of a fixed rent amount; she's comfortable with it. And really, I never bother her about it, because she always keeps her end of the bargain and rarely takes days off unless really necessary.
MM isn't too bad, and I don't ride her about it - but she frequently takes big dollar nights off for no real reason - then complains when we're short on cash or when we're stressed for money. I don't get that.
GF #2 is a completely different case, and she really pisses me off. She works sporadically at best, always has an excuse, and doesn't pay her own shit much less contributing to the household. Her truck has been broken down for months. It's not fair to those of us busting our asses, regardless of your outlook. Regardless, she's not likely to be around much longer for reasons that have little or nothing to do with work or finances, she's just too much drama, lol.
Just so we're clear Cherry - I only take issue when she's falling through on commitments SHE makes. My checks can pay the bills, albeit with no gas or groceries or going out, lol. But their contributions are their own idea, and they spend what they want on whatever they want whenever they want.
hangin
02-24-2011, 01:05 PM
I have read report where the sultan of Brunei would see a girl in an American magazines (playboy, maxim...) and then contact them to do some "modeling" work in the middle east. he would pay them a lot (50k+) of money to live with him for a couple months.
also, the girl that is in the center of the berlusconi scandal apparentley got paid $10,000 just to meet with him.
Almost Jaded
02-24-2011, 05:13 PM
I've had men attractive enough that I'd be, under normal circumstances, willing to fuck offer me some large amounts of money and I've turned it down.
I felt like an idiot turning it down... because I needed the money.
There's just something inside me that makes me incapable of having sex for money.
Even if I could do it... I'd probably have to spend all the money I made on therapy to get over having done it, rofl.
This. This is how my ex was. I respect this.
I reeeeaaaaallllyyy don't get it...
But I respect it.
:lol:
Hmmm I don't know that's possible. But what was he trying to pay for? A car dance? A radiator spin? I think if he offered money it wasn't for a lap dance. I mean will someone jump in front of a vehicle over $20 bucks? And why would he hand her money? Sounds like an indecent proposal where NO wasn't an acceptable response. As I said the story will come out eventually. If I found myself in a situation where she wasn't the one I was expecting or found myself in a "cash and dash" situation, I would let it go and just be more careful in the future.
FBR
Bahuba
05-19-2016, 05:20 AM
Apologies for bumping an old thread but there were some interesting people on this board. I'm reading it saying "I wonder why that one was banned" and "too bad she doesn't post anymore". We have great people now of course but this is like an archeological dig.
Rispy_Girl
05-19-2016, 05:39 AM
Apologies for bumping an old thread but there were some interesting people on this board. I'm reading it saying "I wonder why that one was banned" and "too bad she doesn't post anymore". We have great people now of course but this is like an archeological dig.
I was reading through just this last page and thinking the same thing.
charlie61
05-19-2016, 10:04 AM
Apologies for bumping an old thread but there were some interesting people on this board. I'm reading it saying "I wonder why that one was banned" and "too bad she doesn't post anymore". We have great people now of course but this is like an archeological dig.
We ban people just for fun. You know...to stave off boredom! :D
(Kidding)
Bahuba
05-19-2016, 04:39 PM
We ban people just for fun. You know...to stave off boredom! :D
(Kidding)
LOL I bet now no one even remembers why. What was that, 5 years ago? The ban hammer of Thor has changed hands several times I'm sure.
charlie61
05-19-2016, 04:42 PM
LOL I bet now no one even remembers why. What was that, 5 years ago? The ban hammer of Thor has changed hands several times I'm sure.
The ban hammer is all-knowing. We do not forget.
One time a young woman offered to buy me a cheeseburger if I went home with her.
Does that count?
miss.a.p1600
05-23-2016, 07:12 AM
Lol! I always wondered if this question were asked of the opposite sex, what their responses would be. I'm sure it would be hilarious to see what men have to say.
Hope it was a gourmet hamburger and not the .29 McDonald hamburger.
It's an abstract question for men since we can't picture it happening to us. I imagine a lot of guys who claim they'd be up for it would freeze up and decline the woman if she actually made an offer.
safado
05-23-2016, 07:12 PM
Lol! I always wondered if this question were asked of the opposite sex, what their responses would be. I'm sure it would be hilarious to see what men have to say.
Hope it was a gourmet hamburger and not the .29 McDonald hamburger.
Taking all serious offers, but only from women that I find attractive
miss.a.p1600
05-24-2016, 05:38 AM
Taking all serious offers, but only from women that I find attractive
Interesting. But I'm thinking real role reversal. And I doubt female escorts find a lot of their paying clients physically attractive. And if the price is right ......
A friend of a friend worked as a male escort. He was very attractive and apparently some of his customers were as well. The majority of them though were not women he would try to pick up if he wasn't getting paid.
Going off of safado's comment, men generally picture an attractive (or at least average looking) girl when they try to imagine themselves as an escort. That's because it's still a sexual fantasy to them, not a legit business concept. Since the idea of a woman paying him is unrealistic, his mind defaults to the fantasy.
About a year and a half ago I was in the back seat of a pickup with a bunch of drunk bikers and one sober driver. The youngest guy in the group kept talking about looking for women, hiring escorts, etc. He said if he was reincarnated as a hot girl, he'd be promiscuous as hell. He'd be getting laid every night. I tried to explain that when a one night stand comes easy there's no victory in picking someone up. He might do a few random hook-ups but he'd quickly get sick of it and try to find a good partner. He thought and the rest of them thought I was crazy until the old guy who lived through the free-love era of the hippies chimed in and said I was spot on.
Most men just don't understand it since it's not something we will realistically ever experience.
safado
05-24-2016, 07:18 PM
Interesting. But I'm thinking real role reversal. And I doubt female escorts a lot of their paying clients physically attractive. And if the price is right ......
If the price was right but I did not find her attractive I am pretty sure that my cock would not be on board with the deal and there would be failure to launch.
I don't think id do it cause I wouldn't trust anyone enough to make sure I wasn't killed on the trip, its why even when I'm single and a hot guy tells me he'd pay a few grand i don't do it even tho i kinda want to anyways i just don't cause of the risk. Fuck that, only way is if I knew the guy pretty well. But while I'm in a relationship I would never even consider it for any money I love the happiness I have when I'm faithful and in love
Omegaphallic
05-28-2016, 04:11 PM
For $50,000 sure, hell yes I would, but then again I'd do it for a Mighty Angus Meal at McDonalds. I wamt dessert too if there's anal.
But I have a feeling this question wasn't directed at ths dudes :D
LizzyMe
05-28-2016, 04:37 PM
I worry too much about catching some disease or HPV. My answer is no. I am safe behind my webcam and phone to make $$$$.
miss.a.p1600
05-29-2016, 05:23 AM
For $50,000 sure, hell yes I would, but then again I'd do it for a Mighty Angus Meal at McDonalds. I wamt dessert too if there's anal.
But I have a feeling this question wasn't directed at ths dudes :D
Lol! You're the second one that's said that.
Starting to make me think ........if a woman wanted to get some d*ck, just dress up and buy a gourmet hamburger and voila! - penis galore.
Glad to know most guys are not going to be an expensive lay and would offer their penis basically for free.
indyindy85
05-29-2016, 10:51 PM
Glad to know most guys are not going to be an expensive lay and would offer their penis basically for free.
I think you already knew that one....
Any girl that would feel the need to pay me for sex is probably somebody that I would find hideous so I wouldn't be able to perform. I'm not some bedroom techniques master.