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Hopper
06-13-2011, 05:44 AM
^ If they can get VIPs all the time, then I guess you are a waste of their time. But I consider VIP a waste of money.

tillrules
06-13-2011, 03:53 PM
^ If they can get VIPs all the time, then I guess you are a waste of their time. But I consider VIP a waste of money.

The irony is that they don't always get VIP. Sometimes they're the ones who then sit in the back of the room with their phones and do nothing rather than "waste time" doing other dances.

lfr
06-13-2011, 04:52 PM
^ If they can get VIPs all the time, then I guess you are a waste of their time. But I consider VIP a waste of money.
sometimes the vip is actually an incentive, i.e. bargain, for what one would be paying for just dances, drinks, tips, etc. for that time.

the only thing is, it doesn't really help the dancer that much, as most of it goes to the club, so while patrons may think she's getting a lot of it, the dancer is still very dependent on a healthy tip from the customer. I always like to help out the girls over the clubs.

Almost Jaded
06-13-2011, 07:19 PM
^ Depends on the club. Some take an insane cut, some take none at all, some take a smaller cut.

I don't regret a single dollar I've ever spent on a VIP, lol.

JayATee
06-13-2011, 08:30 PM
I've often seen a whole gaggle of gorgeous dancers all clustered at the bar, texting away madly on their phones, only to see none of them ever actually leave their barstool except to go onstage or into the DR. I deemed them "The Untouchables". Meanwhile, dozens of other dancers were mingling and making money while "The Untouchables" were probably texting each other about what a lousy night it was and that they weren't making a cent! ;D

These are my fav types of girls. }:D

dlabtot
06-13-2011, 08:30 PM
"You're too hot, I don't think I could handle you..." = I am cheap / broke / whatever

dlabtot
06-13-2011, 08:38 PM
These are my fav types of girls. }:D

As a customer I agree. The sharks can feast on the chum while I reassure the hot-but-don't-know-how-to-hustle dancers that they are pretty and sexy.

lopaw
06-13-2011, 08:59 PM
These are my fav types of girls. }:D

;D

To be fair, some of "The Untouchables" that I have approached have turned out to be shy, gentle sweethearts, whose company I enjoyed immensely once the ice was broken.

But some....whoa.
I can see why they were left alone, lest they bite your head off and shit down your neck for having the nerve to even approach them :O.

tillrules
06-13-2011, 09:19 PM
I've often seen a whole gaggle of gorgeous dancers all clustered at the bar, texting away madly on their phones, only to see none of them ever actually leave their barstool except to go onstage or into the DR. I deemed them "The Untouchables". Meanwhile, dozens of other dancers were mingling and making money while "The Untouchables" were probably texting each other about what a lousy night it was and that they weren't making a cent! ;D

That's exactly the behavior I'm talking about. There is money to be made and these girls don't want to chase it. Using myself as an example (and I think I'm similar to a lot of guys), I might only buy a normal lap dance first, but if the girl is entertaining in that dance, I'm probably gonna spring for the VIP dances next. As Almost Jaded notes above, VIP time is rarely a regret. In fact, the only time I have regretted it is when I chose to be sold by one of these untouchable types and even in VIP got a robot dance.

tillrules
06-13-2011, 09:20 PM
These are my fav types of girls. }:D

As they should be as they are leaving money out on the floor for you to make.

Brigham
06-13-2011, 09:20 PM
^ Depends on the club. Some take an insane cut, some take none at all, some take a smaller cut.

I don't regret a single dollar I've ever spent on a VIP, lol.

I am not trying to be harsh here. So do not go crying to moderators. But if you were just a tad bit wiser about VIPs, you would have adequate savings in the bank. Which means you would not have to sob about your money situation in the forum. People are product of the choices they make.

JayATee
06-13-2011, 09:31 PM
As they should be as they are leaving money out on the floor for you to make.

Exactly ;)

arielbriel
06-13-2011, 10:08 PM
Girls that won't do anything but rooms make me laugh all the way to the bank hahaah.

lfr
06-14-2011, 01:36 AM
^ Depends on the club. Some take an insane cut, some take none at all, some take a smaller cut.

I don't regret a single dollar I've ever spent on a VIP, lol.
yeah, that's good to know, you're right. at the place I'm at, they take more than half, (half for dances) so it's more for the club than anything. but they do let the girls take all stage tips and no house fee, so I love I'm supporting them knowing that stuff.

Hopper
06-14-2011, 03:48 AM
But some....whoa.
I can see why they were left alone, lest they bite your head off and shit down your neck for having the nerve to even approach them :O.

That makes me want to do it.

Hopper
06-14-2011, 03:57 AM
That's exactly the behavior I'm talking about. There is money to be made and these girls don't want to chase it. Using myself as an example (and I think I'm similar to a lot of guys), I might only buy a normal lap dance first, but if the girl is entertaining in that dance, I'm probably gonna spring for the VIP dances next. As Almost Jaded notes above, VIP time is rarely a regret. In fact, the only time I have regretted it is when I chose to be sold by one of these untouchable types and even in VIP got a robot dance.

That's why I've never gone VIP. I pay enough to be humiliated as it is. If the dancer does well in a regular short dance, and I like her enough, then possibly I'd go after VIP after that. But never on the first dance. Not that those types of dancers should be worried by what I do - obviously there are enough customers to whom VIP prices are small change or who are just careless or compulsive spenders.

JennaX
06-15-2011, 11:34 AM
It is one of two options

#1. He is telling the truth and he is a wussy man but MIGHT still has money to spend, maybe

#2. He is just a cheap bastard who has to come up with lame excuses


I would spend atleast one song or two trying to size him up, you need to remember, some guys come to the club because they lack the social skills to approach women, he could be telling the truth.

I have had success with these guys, stroking their ego, and making them feel as if I truly wanted them down to the core, as if they were my perfect sexual match, and it shows, and it gets them to drop their guard and spend money.


Who cares if they are manly or not, our job isn't to find a mate, it is to make money and seduce men, some are different than others.

Everyone has a different mind set, I will atleast spend a song worth of time to make them feel desirable and wanted, and then they will feel comfortable to be more open and spend money, whether it is on me or with another stripper.


The club isn't a normal setting, the visitors are men who want attention, affection, respect, and to feel sexually and sometimes emtionally wanted, and needed.


Show them (by pretending) that they are human beings worthy of love, lust and sexual desire, and if they have money, they will open up.

Out of a six to ten hour shift, showing one man, 3 minutes of affection, isn't that much, not that you should do it all the time as you would probably waste an entire shift, lol


But sometimes It's a good idea to try and see from a perspective of a man with low social skills and what he is looking for.

I may be wrong, but through my experience, I've met a lot of men with very poor social skills using this life


All they need is a little attention ;)

Djoser
06-15-2011, 06:27 PM
But sometimes It's a good idea to try and see from a perspective of a man with low social skills and what he is looking for.

I may be wrong, but through my experience, I've met a lot of men with very poor social skills using this life


All they need is a little attention ;)

Yes, and some of these pathetic rejects will do anything they can to get attention--such as pretending to be dancers to fool other people and gain some sort of illusion of respect, or maybe a life of sorts.

But it never works for long...

justreggie
06-18-2011, 01:55 PM
I think it depends on what your agenda is in the club. If it is just to be entertained and see T&A.... Why does the girl need great sales skills? As long as she's hot to you and not a complete bitch fork over the money and let her do her thing. If it is more for a "connection" or someone to spend a lengthy amount of time with I could see a guy expecting more effort and a better rapport. Im not a "wanna dance"girl at all, but I don't want to coddle you,stroke your ego and make you fall in love with me all for a 20$ dance. The effort is not worth the return.

Most of the time in a SC I get a VIP or Champagne room (I say private) and we sit and talk 75% of it. The girl is topless and a striptease once an hour is cool with me, and them.

Note: No offense on calling a stripper "girl(s)" cause that's how us Black guys talk.

lestat1
06-18-2011, 02:23 PM
There is, to an extent, a certain suspension of disbelief required to enjoy a dancer's company, at least for me. A lap dance I can enjoy regardless (bring on the uber-hotness), but for chit chat and company, the more she hits either extreme on the "hotness scale," the more friendliness and approachability become important to me. I'd say to the OP that if you're hearing this line a lot, maybe reflect on your approchability a bit (and I don't mean this in the sense of guys approaching/asking you for dances). Based on the replies though, I seem to be in the minority opinion, so what do I know. :P

JayATee
06-22-2011, 02:46 PM
Couldn't help it the other night. It was too perfect.

"You're too hot, I don't think I could handle you"
"That's ok, I'll go looking for a real man that can"