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TinaLayne
02-07-2011, 09:44 PM
Hey Ladies...be on the lookout for "Kissa" comming in your room on skin.
She comes in your room & PMs guys trying to get them to go to her room (aka steals your custys)
How sad & desperate she must be! She has done it to a couple girls that I know of so far. She came in my room tonight but left pretty quick after I said "oh, look who it is"
crispy
02-07-2011, 10:07 PM
bahahah cant wait to call her out. thanks.
Dancing Days
02-07-2011, 11:51 PM
She did that a few times when I had a lot of guys in my room. She sits there and does nothing, what does she expect? Of course nobody wants to come in to her room.
Thanks for the tip, btw!
TinaLayne
02-08-2011, 12:00 AM
Welcome. I gotta lookout for my girls! ;)
She's gonna get black balled pretty quick on there if she keeps it up.
eroteea
02-08-2011, 12:27 AM
Dita-
tell Kathleen to sign you up for Payoneer- I had to do this as well. :)
does somebody figure how to add it? I added the login of my patoneer when registered but dont know if that's enough /:O
missmagnolia
02-08-2011, 03:30 AM
You have to send an email to Kathleen and she will send you a tracking link so you can link your SV account to Payoneer.
By the way, how payment works? I made about 80 bucks there last week, shouldn't I have been paid yesterday?
lolamaxx
02-08-2011, 04:26 AM
NO WAY. Are you serious? Ugh. I was helping her out and everything. Damn her. She seemed so sweet :( why can't we all just be friends
eroteea
02-08-2011, 06:00 AM
You have to send an email to Kathleen and she will send you a tracking link so you can link your SV account to Payoneer.
By the way, how payment works? I made about 80 bucks there last week, shouldn't I have been paid yesterday?
Ty, girl. I thought it is smth like that cause other sites done the same.. wondering why she didnt send it yet. Hope it will be ok
Dancing Days
02-08-2011, 06:37 AM
I got my first check from SV yesterday. Really really big amount and it cleared in less than a day. FUCK YEAH.
eroteea
02-08-2011, 06:41 AM
it seems I got no answer yet to my email. Could somebody pass me the link in a PM to add my payoneer, pls?
vivianbear
02-08-2011, 10:37 AM
Did I see it mentioned that we can't block other models from our chat rooms? That's a bummer if some are coming into rooms to snipe custies. I didn't even know custies could privately message each other, in chat and not just the model. I hope that gets cleared up soon.
TinaLayne
02-08-2011, 11:09 AM
Yeah, I'm not liking the fact that they can come in & PM guys and we can't even see it happening. The only reason the whole kissa thing came to light was because she did it to the wrong guy and he outed her.
Dancing Days
02-08-2011, 11:18 AM
Did I see it mentioned that we can't block other models from our chat rooms? That's a bummer if some are coming into rooms to snipe custies. I didn't even know custies could privately message each other, in chat and not just the model. I hope that gets cleared up soon.
I don't think Kathleen wants to install a feature where we can block other models. She wants model camaraderie to be at a maximum and is waiting to get the go-ahead from the engineer to get into Kissa's PM logs.
Kathleen asked me a question that I'd like to pose to you girls...
She'd like to know how to deal with situations like this. Here are the options:
"3 Strikes - You're Out"
"1 Warning and a Ban"
"Ban Immediately"
What do you think?
TinaLayne
02-08-2011, 11:24 AM
I would say 3 strikes...
1st strike: 2day suspension
2nd strike: 1 week suspension
3rd strike: you're gone
Or maybe I'm just being too nice lol
crispy
02-08-2011, 11:26 AM
i dont want models in my room. theres no need for it. im camming to make money, not to hang out with other models or to have them ask me questions like if im making money like has happened in my open chat since ive been on there.
its annoying. if i want to chat with other camgirls ill do it here.
but i suppose 1 warning then ban.
Dancing Days
02-08-2011, 11:28 AM
I would say 3 strikes...
1st strike: 2day suspension
2nd strike: 1 week suspension
3rd strike: you're gone
Or maybe I'm just being too nice lol
Hahah! I thought the same thing at first, but after asking a few other SV models the same question, I started considering "1 warning and a ban"... Frankie Chemical brought up a great point - the 3 strike rule didn't work with MFC so why should something that doesn't work be applied to something shiny, new, and awesome?
Besides, we don't want more girls like Kissa popping up if they know that the rules aren't going to be taken seriously. Once she gets the one and only warning, I feel like she'll get back on the right track. No more Get Out of Jail Free cards!!!
TinaLayne
02-08-2011, 11:34 AM
Hahaha...see, I knew I was being too nice.
catgirl
02-08-2011, 12:25 PM
i think we should be able to ban if we want.. i've had models come in and bug me, and not leave. i don't know what to do in this situation- and am very frustrated.
when i first tested out SV, i went into a model's room. as soon as i said hi out loud, the customers bombarded me with PMS. i didn't want to be an asshole to the model so i left the room immediately.. there's gotta be something she can do about the PMs.. right????!?/
Smurfette
02-08-2011, 12:39 PM
I made the mistake of giving Kissa my Yahoo SN... now she messages me every time I'm online, asking me how much I've made, whether I've been paid, what other sites am I working on, etc. etc. She seems desperate to make money. I feel kinda bad for her because she's in the Phillipines and probably poor as hell but she's REALLY annoying and demanding.
Juliette25
02-08-2011, 02:46 PM
You guys please email Kathleen about this Kissa girl. She'll take care of it.
ETA never mind I went back looks like someone did.
Dancing Days
02-08-2011, 03:16 PM
I made the mistake of giving Kissa my Yahoo SN... now she messages me every time I'm online, asking me how much I've made, whether I've been paid, what other sites am I working on, etc. etc. She seems desperate to make money. I feel kinda bad for her because she's in the Phillipines and probably poor as hell but she's REALLY annoying and demanding.
I had a sneaking suspicion she was somewhere in Asia...
If she's so desperate, why doesn't she do the work just like we do? She sits there in a quiet room, looks bored as hell, and doesn't want to do *anything*...the only time she perked up was when I told her to be careful (as an anon) because stealing clients like that will land her in trouble. She immediately started denying it, but her facial expression said she knew exactly what I was talking about. She raised an eyebrow and a tiny smile was on her face. Not exactly a good poker face.
I've seen her in my room when I have like 15-20 guys in there. She'd come in for a minute, not say anything, then leave. Then 5 minutes later, she'd come back and do the same thing. It's like she's fishing.
vivianbear
02-08-2011, 06:28 PM
I don't think Kathleen wants to install a feature where we can block other models. She wants model camaraderie to be at a maximum and is waiting to get the go-ahead from the engineer to get into Kissa's PM logs.
Kathleen asked me a question that I'd like to pose to you girls...
She'd like to know how to deal with situations like this. Here are the options:
"3 Strikes - You're Out"
"1 Warning and a Ban"
"Ban Immediately"
What do you think?
I want the option to kick ban WHOMEVER I want from my chat, hands down. This isn't about camaraderie, this is about how I run my business. Just today, I was kicking off chat and a model (who is on SW and she had better be reading this) came in my room and started trying to milk me for info about how to work the site, in general chat. This is exactly how that conversation took place:
Model: hey any tips?
Me (using voice): tips on what?
Model: I read your msg on stripper web about how well u do on here
Model: i was on 2 hrs and nada
Model: so slow
Me (via PM box): This is NOT the place to be trying to talk to me about this. I'm selling here. You need to message me PRIVATELY.
Model: other girls have helped sorry bye
Model: i normaly tip for helping not aure how to sned pvt am new lol
Me: I'm here to do my business, not help you figure out yours.
Model: have a good day ill get help else where
And then she continued to lurk in my room! I switched into 'Group Chat' for a while, which then flushed all of the lurkers out of my general chat but after that, it was practically dead. This model completely derailed my ability to gain momentum from minute one. I should have been able to simply click her out and carry on but I was practically forced into a conversation with her! She wasn't even being polite!
To models lurking other models:
DON'T come into chat and immediately begin drilling a woman about how it works.
DO introduce yourself or announce yourself!
DO ASK the model whose room you're in if its okay for you to watch or join in her chat. Its HER room. She may not want you there at all.
DON'T ask for hustle tips in general chat! She's hustling! You're interfering with how she's communicating with her own customers!
DO get a generic screenname (something gender neutral) and simply watch or contribute tips as any other customer in a moderate amount to maintain the flow of her hustle. The better she can do her job, the more you will learn from her, organically!
If Kathleen decides to keep the models from being able to kick/ban other models at will, there needs to be some agreed upon etiquette. Normally, I wouldn't mind but after today (I was SO in the mood to hustle before that interruption), I'm going to stress that models first announce themselves and then specifically ASK me if they can hang out in my room. I will also require that ALL models converse with me only thru the PM function. I'm huge on disallowing custies from seeing my private dialogue with fellow workers (they don't need to know our business/tips/tricks). Stop broadcasting your shit in front of them in my room. Its tacky.
Camaraderie comes from respect. Respect your fellow models and their businesses.
/rant.
lolamaxx
02-09-2011, 04:41 AM
I really like coming in to watch other girls just because I'm genuinely interested in your shows and I guess I like the ~camaraderie~ idea because we all know what it's like. But from now on I'll keep note not to come into other girls' rooms. I don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable.
I helped Kissa with sorting out her webcam, now I feel like I've created the problem.
I think anyone should be allowed to ban at any time but with banning models it needs to be taken more serious/in depth.
DominoDiva
02-09-2011, 05:18 AM
They doin bank wires yet? :P lol i sound obsessed, i say it bout everythin eek. lol
Me loves me some bank wires!!! mwahaha :P
im giddy haha
jess
xxxxx
Dancing Days
02-09-2011, 08:36 AM
WOW. Just saw Kissa get attacked on SV.
[model name]: don't you EVER come in my room and try to steal customers again. Don't EVER screw with me and my show. you will have ALL the cam girls after you
[model name]: I will destroy your name and slander your name dont ever mess with you cheap skank
kissa: [model name] NO COMMENT
kissa: HAI THERE TIM
anon735: what a nasty looking whore
anon735: look at those cheap clothes
kissa: aTIM THANKS FOR THE SHOW
anon735: tim must have been on drugs to want to do a show with you.
anon735: can't even show your face
anon812: wow you are ugly
anon812: clean your room
anon812: maybe someone would tip you then you know?
anon812: put some make up on your face okay?
anon812: or paperbag maybe?
anon812: you belong on livejasmin with the rest of the nasty girls
Okay. There is NO reason to go to these lengths. A few of us have already talked to Kathleen about the problem and she is MORE THAN WILLING to help us sort out this problem...but what is the point of calling this girl such terrible names? I mean, yeah, she is fucking with our bread and butter, but really...Karma will get you if you do shit like this. The only time I have ever had contact w/ this girl was to tell her to be careful but I never called her names like that, even when I knew she was trying to swipe my custies right under my nose.
Feel sorry for her all you want, but there's no need to trash her like this.
TinaLayne
02-09-2011, 09:01 AM
Wow! Not cool at all. I mean, I understand being pissed, but that's just mean and tacky.
Abuse should also be a bannable offense.
Smurfette
02-09-2011, 09:35 AM
Yeah, that's not cool at all. I know she's annoying and tactless but she doesn't deserve that.
pushit69
02-09-2011, 09:44 AM
some bitter bitches on SV. Like okay this kissa girl is annoying NO REASON TO ACT LIKE A FUCKING BITCH. wow and obviously it's someone from this board.
Ladies like this give camgirls A BAD NAME. GROW THE FUCK UP.
I honestly don't want to work on a site that has such bitter bitches that will complain about what a model does then goes AND DOES THE SAME? WOW
BritishBecky
02-09-2011, 10:08 AM
I can see both sides of this
Kissa seems to be pretty underhand. I looked at her room yesterday and she had a topic set to X tokens for show. She was tipped 150 tokens and immediately put her topic UP to 100 tokens more than it was before. It also seems that she's been using very sneaky tactics in other models' rooms.
So, I can see the side of the person who just finally got really frustrated with her behaviour (and I have no idea what Kissa did in that person's room), after all, we've all been in positions where we blow a fuse and perhaps go a bit too far.
Equally though, we shouldn't resort to insults etc and it really is dropping to her level to call her those sort of names etc.
Dancing Days
02-09-2011, 10:25 AM
It might not be someone from this forum. I mentioned Kissa on another forum I'm on so girls know about this issue, so it could be anyone. Kathleen is aware of the abuse that happened this morning and I highly doubt this will go over well for the model that did it. I understand that Kissa is desperate and will do whatever it takes to get customers, but if you're ever in her room, she doesn't really have any. So even if she tries to PM people to take them away from your show, she's not doing herself any favors because she's the only one that looks desperate and the paying customers KNOW that. THAT is why they let us know about the problem. And when you bitch another girl out like that, it doesn't make you look any better in comparison.
The only thing we should do in situations like this is LET KATHLEEN KNOW. Unlike Streamate or MFC, she'll take care of it.
crispy
02-09-2011, 11:03 AM
im sure things like this happen on other sites all the time. im not overly worried about it.
Ms.Lacey
02-09-2011, 12:49 PM
Nice to know she has been in my room several times
Arialandre
02-09-2011, 03:12 PM
I havnt seen her yet. Also I dont mind other models visiting my room, they are sweet, and they tip me! lol
catgirl
02-09-2011, 03:57 PM
okay.. let me edit what i said,
i meant when models come into my room and don't say anything at all and sit there for 10,15minutes
and the only person who did this was youknowwho, and i didn't want to name anybody, but re-reading my post i look like an asshole
so yes- come into my room, hang out :) just say hi lol.. that's all :)
oh, and about the person who went off on her- :( that is crappy, come on girls- show some tact!! i mean, really????
crispy
02-09-2011, 04:11 PM
i have lots of models come into my room and dont say anything. im about to start banning i dont care if i look like a bitch.
Devinxoxo
02-09-2011, 04:24 PM
skinvideo seems like it really has a lot of potential to eventually be HUGE by not only having a higher payout % but by treating the models well. too bad u cant block states :( i hope that will b a feature they will add in the future.
i also am in love with their little blurbs about the models. so cute!
DominoDiva
02-09-2011, 04:26 PM
sooo, was that a no to my question? :P
xxxxx
jess
catgirl
02-09-2011, 04:31 PM
love the tokidoki<3icon crispy!!!!! i just bought a new purse- i love them!!! i collect them! :)
lol sorry, back to thread..
ShellyConnors
02-09-2011, 05:35 PM
The ban button works great, imo. I have yet to test it out on models, but I am more than happy to if they start bugging...
I generally don't care for models who aren't already my friends to be in my room. Like, why? I admit I do lurk in other models rooms (that I don't already know/ communicate with regularly), but everytime I do, I log out of my screen name and go in as an "anon"... like, WHY if I don't know you are you in my shit? It's weird.
Arialandre
02-09-2011, 06:35 PM
I have found that girls I dont know come into my room because they WANT to know me. Or they have seen me around somewhere, or just want to welcome me to the site, see how I'm getting on, ask if I need any advice, ect.
crispy
02-09-2011, 06:38 PM
kathleen unbanned someone i banned for asking about meeting me and only tipping 3 bucks over a few days and lurking too much. her reasoning was that he spent "good money" on the site. im not sure ho wi feel about that.
laurielegs
02-09-2011, 07:21 PM
kathleen unbanned someone i banned for asking about meeting me and only tipping 3 bucks over a few days and lurking too much. her reasoning was that he spent "good money" on the site. im not sure ho wi feel about that.That pisses me off. Ban buttons are useless then.
Unless he is banned from the entire site when you ban? It SHOULD only ban them from your room. What is the point of them then?
I was excited about that site but if I have to put up with idiots and can not permanently ban that's going to be a total deal-breaker for me.
crispy
02-09-2011, 08:09 PM
i agree, but what can i say. she told me there are no real admins on the site and she likes the models to police their own rooms, but yet she unbanned someone i banned? i dont get it.
Arialandre
02-09-2011, 09:00 PM
Ok so we REALLY need a dinging sound when ppl enter our group chat. I was sitting in group and some guy came in but I was working in another browser window. Missed him completely. Of course the first thing he said when he entered was "show me titties!" so I'm not too broken up about missing him. But seriously, I have THINGS to do, I need a little bell or something!
eroteea
02-09-2011, 11:06 PM
I'm friendly with other models and I dont mind them comming, but after we talked a bit and wished her good luck, she was still sitting in my room without saying anyything, like she has nothing else to do
More than that, she was asking me if i work on other sites, in front of all the guys. I told ehr i cant tlak ab that.. then she said that if is so slow she will cam on MFC, same in public chat. I mean wtf.. im trying to convince these guys and she re-direct my traffic? I thought we're not allowed to tlk ab other sites
ShellyConnors
02-09-2011, 11:49 PM
I have found that girls I dont know come into my room because they WANT to know me. Or they have seen me around somewhere, or just want to welcome me to the site, see how I'm getting on, ask if I need any advice, ect.
that makes sense.
ShellyConnors
02-09-2011, 11:52 PM
i second this. a notification sound would be awesome. and i'm also beginning to notice the bane of a camgirl's life... beggars. today was my very first "open breast bb" guy. i shreaked in horror and wanted to vomit. i will seriously fold up and die if SV becomes like that.
Ok so we REALLY need a dinging sound when ppl enter our group chat. I was sitting in group and some guy came in but I was working in another browser window. Missed him completely. Of course the first thing he said when he entered was "show me titties!" so I'm not too broken up about missing him. But seriously, I have THINGS to do, I need a little bell or something!
missmagnolia
02-10-2011, 06:52 AM
I'm loving that site... I am having problems with models too. Last night a model came and stayed for several minutes without saying anything, then I noticed she wasn't even online... Another one came to ask me if I could help her with a tech issue, she was very nice actually and I was trying to help her but an anon started to be really rude and said "she's not tech help, you shouldn't be here", and things like that (was she anyone of you girls, by the way?)... That was very rude since I wasn't demonstrating any sign of annoyance... And YES! Notification sound now... I can't just stay starring at the screen if I don't feel like being in public.
Does that site have any affiliate program or whatever? For the first time I find a site I'd be willing to promote...
missmagnolia
02-10-2011, 06:56 AM
Another thing we should suggest is a different layout so we can check our earnings... Yesterday I had to sum up the tokens I've made with a calculator to see what I had earned (in $$) just that day. I'm also confused about payment periods, don't really know when they start and when they end...
TinaLayne
02-10-2011, 07:41 AM
I think pay periods are Mon-Sun & she sends out payments on Mondays.