View Full Version : Woman threatens to cut off husbands wee wee for visiting titty bars
sananeko
04-26-2011, 09:06 PM
^^ I'm still trying to read this but my mind seems to be forming a shrinking tunnel with a sun lamp at the end..
Almost Jaded
04-26-2011, 09:42 PM
My wife is a 100% pure hotheaded Latina born in Central America. If she knew even a little about all of the ridiculous bullshit I do she'd likely come after me with the biggest, sharpest carving knife in our kitchen.
So - settle the debate, at least in your case. Does your wife benefit in any way - in the form of extra attention, heightened sexuality, etc - from any of your activities?
lagirl - Don't have time to delve into your mess right now, taking my neighbors and some friends to a strip club. Gonna have a blast. I'll just say for now - THANK YOU. Thank you for validating EVERY SINGLE WORD I POSTED earlier. Couldn't possibly have done it better myself.
Oh - real quick - I WILL say that...
A. - we're not swingers, you clearly don't understand polyamory at all, and you apparently missed that part about how solid our relationship is,
B. - Neither of us is over 40, nor did either of us indicate we were - I'm 35, and both girls are 22,
C. - Both girls in our house are far hotter than you'd like to think (easily top 10% in any club they work in, usually in the top 10 period but Sapphire is quite a club, and both model) and very secure - and neither of them have implants,
D. - You contradicted yourself so many times in the first couple of paragraphs that I only skimmed the rest for now. I'll have waay too much fun making you look even dumber later.
Ciao for now...
Kellydancer
04-26-2011, 10:54 PM
Ok, while I think some of Lagirl's comments are rude, I get where she is coming from. I too would have problems if a husband went to a strip club alone, especially if he got a grinding dance. I realize that makes me somewhat of a hypocrite having been a stripper but I never did grinding dances.
However, while I had many married men as customers they tended to fall into three categories: 1)Going through a divorce, 2)Wanting to cheat or 3)Wanting variety. I get #1 and #3 but wanting to cheat really upsetted me and I would say this was an overwhelming majority of my customers. Ironically, most of my big spending regulars were going through a divorce. In the case of variety he usually had a fat wife at home but wanted the fantasy. In general I've found the guys going through a divorce wanted company, the guys wanting to cheat wanted the most extreme extras possible (and were usually angry when finding out they weren't allowed) and the guys wanting a fantasy usually never asked me for anything beyond what was allowed.
As for monogamy, it's acceptable for some and not for others. I've known people in no monogamous relationships and some worked, some didn't, just like monogamous relationships. I couldn't be happy in a non monogamous relationship but whatever works for others may not work for me and vice versa. Monogamy varies too and some consider grinding cheating, some even consider looking at a hot person of the opposite sex as cheating. I do not consider checking out someone as cheating but definitely would if my husband got grinded on.
I do not think age has anything to do with anything. I am 40 and still go clubbing from time to time. I happen to like a lot of current rock bands and keep up with things like that. I also think a woman should stay in shape as well as her husband. Not saying anyone said this, but too often we hear things like "he went to the club because his wife is fat". How often do we say "both him and his wife are fat?". When we blame the wife for getting fat we shouldn't use that as an excuse if the husband is fat too.
Btw, I am not taking any sides, just stating my views. I have gone to strip clubs with exboyfriends but these were no touch air dance clubs. I have gone with guy friends as well and have even bought dances for the men. In the case of exboyfriends none of them had an interest in dances, though I told them to tip the dancers.
tempest666
04-26-2011, 11:51 PM
Age is just a number pfft! There are tons of active senior citizens! This is kinda fucked up and unrelated but there are more people in nursing homes being treated for STD's than on college campuses! That means that grandma and grandpa aren't as lonely as you might think! They just need to wrap it up!
Or look at the Geezer bandit who is public enemy #1 !!! 13 banks and hasn't gotten caught!
http://thoughtcatalog.com/2011/senior-citizens-are-having-more-sex-and-contracting-more-stds-than-youth/
Oh, jesus, christ, don't google "sex" and "senior citizen" I just got a bunch of links for granny porn/geriatric porn
Just stick to "std" and "senior citizen"
Apologies for the threadjack...wait its my thread anyways nevermind
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brothels-take-caring-approach-to-sex-and-the-senior-citizen-2192499.html
And old and dated news, but proof you're never too old to be in a love triangle
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C03EFDD133EF934A2575BC0A9639C8B 63
Kellydancer
04-26-2011, 11:57 PM
Personally, I'd be happy if my grandparents still got it on. I don't want to know though. I always say that if I never marry I'll be a cougar hitting on 20something men for sex.
lagirl
04-27-2011, 12:46 AM
Argg what fucked up world do you live in where heightened sexuality is a good thing for yyour gf to deal with" fuck the guys I date arre alrready so ridiculously horny around me that any more horny and it wouuld be overwhelming to the point of annoyance. I guess maybe you're just not turned on by your gf as is which is why u need sttrip clubs and an extra girlto be turned off enough to fuck her
You're right youure not swingers. I wrote that based on what girlfriend 1 said and later read that you're really just a selfish bastard who wants to have his cake and eat it too. At least swingers are opn to their patner fucking other guys. You're not. Only other girls allowd in the bedroom. Thos isn't at all modern. Its revering bck to the old testament times where women had no rights and were simply baby makers made to worship and serve men hand and feet. How dare you guys even fucking imply that doing something that is common in women hating religions like mormon is anything but ass backwards ancient and offensive to the entire feminist movement. Of course your relatinship is solid. You guysare living in a constant state of denial and delusion. Id be hapytoo if I was delusional and denied anything bad in my life. Afterall ignorance is bliss. Just because you wnt acknowledge that you have cancer won't change the fact that your life is now dramatically shorrteened. Yyou better hope neither of you wake up to the reality of your situation. Especially the girl since she's the one getting screwed the most, because if you do you're in for a world of hurt. Oh god and a 13 yearr. Age gap. Let ?e guess. You won't touch a girl your own age with a ten foot pole. I should have know I was giving you too. Much credit when I assumed you were at least decent enough to date someone your own age. Well I hope. The two twnty two year olds have fun being dumpd in 3 years for a newer modell. Seriously you exempliffy precisely what is wrong withthe partying scne and how it retards mens brains grow the fuck up. Maybe theen an adult woman would be able totolerate you. I'm only 25 and to me 22 year olds look like children. It is ssick and reppulsive that you're attracted to them. All those years at the strip club have rotted your brain.
Um I've worrked at sapphires too and from what I heard your children (let's callem what they are seriously) got fired. Clearly they weren't that hot. I've never had a problem there and fromwhat I've seen, hiring standards aren't very high. Imsorry if you think getting hired at a strip club with thousands of girls on the roster is some sort of proof that you're hot. And everyone and their mom models.
Mindy Bares All
04-27-2011, 12:56 AM
Am I going to hell if I think that's funny?
sananeko
04-27-2011, 01:07 AM
I don't know.. I don't seem to see your name on my list in hell..
Mindy Bares All
04-27-2011, 01:11 AM
I don't know.. I don't seem to see your name on my list in hell..
}:D Yes!!
SteveSmith
04-27-2011, 03:18 AM
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Almost Jaded
04-27-2011, 05:53 AM
Wow - you read MM's thread about her drama at Sapphire. Ooohhh... Aaaahhh... For the record, the misunderstanding at that club (which is being cleared up) revolved not around their being hot - they were the only 2 girls in their hire group approved for open shifts (a decision made PURELY on looks in that club) and didn't even have to audition when the hiring manager looked at them, fully dressed (a pretty good indicator, doncha think?) - but because of bitches LIKE YOU spreading rumors without asking what's up. Because they came and went at the same times, always together, in the same car with the same guy, somebody decided they must be working girls with a pimp. Sapphire has a no tolerance policy for such. It's good to know the club looks after the girls there, and the mess will be cleared up.
25, eh? 22 year olds are children to you, are they? Your posts indicate your maturity level, I don't need to say a damned thing about that, LMAO!
25 and already so insecure as to tear into other people's relationships online (lol), go through your partners email accounts (SO MUCH TRUST!! What a WONDERFUL way to live!!), and challenge others lifestyles because you can't handle the fact that not everyone lives like you do. Wow - as bad as it apparently is already, I got news for ya - the rest of your life is going to SUCK, lol.
Heightened sexuality in a relationship that's almost as old as you are is a very good thing indeed. See, you wouldn't understand oh great and wise 25 year old who looks down on people 3 years your junior but ignores wisdom from someone almost half again as old as you are, because you've never had a relationship of more than couple of years. 5 max, and that's not likely. I suppose 10 would be possible, but not if you've never been a swinger or lived poly, seeing as you've had several partners and boyfriends by your own account.
In other words - YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. Just so we're clear. So you'd best check yourself CHILD, before you go calling people YOUR OWN AGE children.
As to what GF#1 wrote....
BTW, you have that wrong, MM is my fiance, not GF#1, GF#1 is called that because there was once a GF#2 as well, but that ended recently. If you're going to read through our stuff for ammunition at LEAST be thorough darling.
...I had nothing whatsoever to do with other men not being part of this, that was THEIR decision and theirs alone. I want my cake and eat it too, eh? That's funny - MM was the one who brought other women into our relationship, not me - and she spent months getting me to be comfortable with the idea first, too. So... Oh yeah, that's right -
Once again, YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT THE FUCK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
And FYI, most of the women in my life have been nearer my own age. +/- 4-5 years. Although that's a LOT to you, seeing as 3 years difference makes you SOOO worldly and wise and those just that much younger children. ROFLMAO. See, the 13 year age gap that you cite as making ME the sick one was a bit of an issue at first - on MY part, not hers. She's always liked older guys, I'm actually younger than she prefers. I wasn't sure i should get into something long term with someone so young, who's ideals and preferences will change over the next 5-10 years. Some on the next 3 for sure, but really there's not all that much difference between 22 and 25. I know you don't see that now, being so young and all, but you'll see, I promise. Anyway, I'm not going to be trading anything in, she redefined what love means to me. I sometimes worry that SHE might go looking someday, but that's a risk I have to take, and I trust her when she says she's here for the long haul. We've together for over 2 years. Just out of curiosity, have you ever had a stable relationship that long? Not to be rude you understand, it's just that at your young age you very well might not have.
So - your age thing is way off, your statements about them and the club were way off, your assumptions about the nature of our relationship were way off, your slanderous comments about my proclivities were way off... Let's see - did we miss anything? Certainly there must be SOMETHING you said that wasn't based on pure spiteful speculation...
Oh yes -
I guess maybe you're just not turned on by your gf as is which is why u need sttrip clubs and an extra girlto be turned off enough to fuck her
Well - nope, way off there, too. Not even close. I won't go into the details of our love and sex life here, but let's just say that your wildest fantasies can't come close, given that you've never even seen a guy be sore from sex before. She turns me on just fine, lol, more than you've ever seen a guy turned on. I won't go into the dynamics that extend to the mutual girlfriend - it'd fry your still developing brain.
Good night... :)
Almost Jaded
04-27-2011, 06:03 AM
PS - read Kellydancer's replies for a nice example of how to disagree with someone CONSTRUCTIVELY. See, it's not that hard - we were having a rather decent discussion until you went all young and reckless on it.
Thanks for contributing Kelly. ;)
rickdugan
04-27-2011, 08:32 AM
So - settle the debate, at least in your case. Does your wife benefit in any way - in the form of extra attention, heightened sexuality, etc - from any of your activities?
Oh no, don't drag me into this. ;)
Seriously though, the answer is probably no. In fact, in all candor my activities probably take away from the amount of attention that I would be giving to her if I was a better husband.
A. - we're not swingers, you clearly don't understand polyamory at all, and you apparently missed that part about how solid our relationship is...
Hmmm...polyamory...does that imply that you are equally open to one of the two girls in your household introducing another man to the mix? ::) Or is this really uni-directional polyamory? ;D
Kellydancer
04-27-2011, 11:28 AM
PS - read Kellydancer's replies for a nice example of how to disagree with someone CONSTRUCTIVELY. See, it's not that hard - we were having a rather decent discussion until you went all young and reckless on it.
Thanks for contributing Kelly. ;)
Thank you for your insight as well. I will admit I don't understand the relationship you live, just as you don't understand my lifestyle and that is perfectly fine. I've met people in various forms of non monogamy (swingers, polyamorous, open marriages, etc) and what works for them is fine with me. Personally, if it came down to it, I'd rather live a lifestyle where I slept with others with everyone knowing than what I see more often, cheating husbands. With the non monogamous relationships, everyone knows what is going on so I don't consider that cheating. If I had a husband who was sleeping around and I didn't know (or I did know but denied it) I would divorce him. If it was an open situation then we would both agree to it. I judge cheating husbands, I don't judge people in situations like yours because as long as all agree it's fine with me.
Having said that I don't know what kind of relationship I'll have 10 years from now. Maybe in 10 years I'll be married to a guy I have hot sex with, or maybe we will be swingers or have an open marriage. Maybe he'll be a prude sex wise and I'll be getting it on with the pool boy. Or perhaps I won't be married and be a crazy cat lady or a cougar. If someone had told me at 25 that when I got to 40 I'd want to be married I would have laughed. At 25 I was all about having fun with several men, maybe this will be the case in 10 years, who knows.
Almost Jaded
04-27-2011, 05:35 PM
Rick - thank you for your honesty.
And about our relationship - firstly, I can't stress enough that the relationship structure was created BY MISSMYNXX and GF#1, NOT by me. MM is completely monogamous to me as far as men go (not so much with women, lol) by HER CHOICE, period. GF#1 is basically the same way, also of her own decision, but she has a long distance boyfriend whom she sees maybe once a year who at this time is her only "exception", whom she cares for very much. Whether she chooses to keep it that way (limiting her partners I mean) in the future only time will tell. She is essentially completely monogamous to MM as far as women go as well - she considers herself "monogamous" to us as a couple.
The recently departed GF#2 was much more open to both men and women outside of our relationship. This is ultimately what resulted in the breakup - not because she HAD other partners, but because she had honesty issues with them and to a lesser degree with us. The serious drama all started with me telling her I had a serious problem with her lying to one guy in particular about her involvement with me - he had a right to know what was really going on if things were getting more serious between them.
Kelly - I have to ask, why are all your examples of a cheating husband? All the studies show that married women cheat more. Is that more easily excused in your mind, or are you just more aware of the men cheating? Curious.
Also - I DO understand your lifestyle and that of lagirl - I lived it for many years with varying levels of success. I know many couples and people in general who came to understand the idea of non-monogamy after years or even decades worth of "traditional" relationships never seemed to deliver on the Norman Rockwell dream.
That's what irks me so much about lagirls posts (okay, that's a fraction of what irks me so much about her posts, lol) - she has no clue what she's talking about. She's not married as far as I can tell, openly admits to going through her SO's emails and other insecure behaviors - and then bashes others for having happy, successful relationships based on honesty, communication, and TRUST.
Closed minded people think so SMALL all the time. It's annoying. I'm not here telling people in monogamous relationships that they're wrong; people should do what works for them. But when it's a relationship built on a foundation of mistrust and insecurity - what I call "enforced monogamy" - it will never really be a happy relationship, monogamous or not.
Kellydancer
04-27-2011, 06:12 PM
Kelly - I have to ask, why are all your examples of a cheating husband? All the studies show that married women cheat more. Is that more easily excused in your mind, or are you just more aware of the men cheating? Curious.
Also - I DO understand your lifestyle and that of lagirl - I lived it for many years with varying levels of success. I know many couples and people in general who came to understand the idea of non-monogamy after years or even decades worth of "traditional" relationships never seemed to deliver on the Norman Rockwell dream.
That's what irks me so much about lagirls posts (okay, that's a fraction of what irks me so much about her posts, lol) - she has no clue what she's talking about. She's not married as far as I can tell, openly admits to going through her SO's emails and other insecure behaviors - and then bashes others for having happy, successful relationships based on honesty, communication, and TRUST.
Closed minded people think so SMALL all the time. It's annoying. I'm not here telling people in monogamous relationships that they're wrong; people should do what works for them. But when it's a relationship built on a foundation of mistrust and insecurity - what I call "enforced monogamy" - it will never really be a happy relationship, monogamous or not.
I think both people cheat, but I use the examples of men cheating only because I've seen it more than women. That and I don't plan to date women. I suppose if I dated women I would probably be more concerned about that. I do know many cheating women too, and think the same of them that I do of the cheating men. However in situations where they both agree with it I don't consider it cheating.
I didn't know she went through her SO email's and that would disturb me. I feel trust is the most important thing in a relationship. I can't predict whether I'll have a monogamous marriage or even if I'll marry. I hope so, but there are situations where this doesn't work. Incidentally, most of the people I've known in non monogamous relationships tended to have high levels of trust.
Almost Jaded
04-27-2011, 06:18 PM
As painful as it is, you should go back and read her posts. It's... Enlightening. LMAO
Djoser
04-27-2011, 07:25 PM
Interesting. A lot of "well she's hotheaded" responses...I bet if the title was "man treatens to hit her/glue her tits together (or vag, whatever)" nobody would or shoulf write that off as "normal"....more like "call the police, get a pfa
Just funny. I understand SW is dedicated to powerful women, but violence is violence
That about sums it up.
Lagirl, you had a point but you lost us when you started insulting AlmostJaded. If he has an open relationship and his fiance is fine with it, who's getting hurt? And your saying nightclubs in general, or stripclubs for that matter, are only for 21 year olds is just crazy! Sure the meat markets and the teeny bopper bars are not a great place for older people to hang out, but who wants to go to them?
I'm over 40 and I go to stripclubs all the time--mostly because I work in them and all my friends are there lol. I am not there to get horny or get my hardon ground on. Not every guy in stripclubs wants his hardon rubbed.
All that being said, I gotta say, if I had a wife and she went and paid 3-400$ for Rex to rub his dick all over her pussy for an hour or so, then she came home all horny and wanted to fuck me----no fucking chance. I wouldn't let her get anywhere near me. Actually I'd be out the fucking door.
BringOnTheMen
04-27-2011, 07:50 PM
Strippers insulting other strippers looks just baffles me. It's our JOB to look great naked, and while there are certainly ugly strippers out there, I haven't seen any on this board, or in most clubs I've been to. I also believe there are pics of MM somewhere on this site and if I remember correctly she's ridiculously stunning, so yeah...insulting the physical appearance of a stripper, much less a stripper with hot pics posted, doesn't seem like the best way to get your point across. Actually, it seems less effective than Laxman's refusal to respond to any of Jaded's posts because "you're a pimp, so I'm don't have to argue with you" :P
DesuvsDeath
04-27-2011, 08:14 PM
Two reasons I'd have a problem with my SO going to the strip club and they've both been brought up:
if the SO is spending hundreds of dollars to get their pussy or dick ground on for half an hour.
IF I meet a girl tht turns me on, my SO's benefit from it - I come home even hornier than usual and they get fucked well and proper, lol.
If he wanted to take $50 and sit at the stage for a little while... no biggie.
But spending more money on another girl than me is a problem.
Coming home with your dick hard from some other girl and wanting to put it in me while you think about her is a problem. (I'm sure it happens sometimes anyway... but it's different (and would make me feel disgusting) when you KNOW it's happening.
Would I cut it off for going to the club? No.
But I wouldn't want to be with someone who wasted money at the strip club all the time.
Kellydancer
04-27-2011, 09:01 PM
If he has an open relationship and his fiance is fine with it, who's getting hurt?
This is exactly why I don't have a problem with Almost Jaded's relationships because no one is getting hurt. They are all happy it seems to if it works for them it works for me. I think this is why I put cheating in another category and would hate it. Cheating when the other spouse/lover doesn't know does hurt. I've had many friends betrayed by a cheating spouse (of both sexes) and hate cheating. That is different than the other issues.
lagirl
04-27-2011, 09:58 PM
No one has to audition at sappphires as far as I know. And she mustve auditioned with a bunch of crackheads because when I went they took everyone who had come in unless they seent girls home without my knowing or ttold certain girls in private that they could only work certain shift but as far as I know we were all approved for any shift.
I don't think there is anthing wrong with wanting to know what your so is up to allll the time. And looking through their email has only proved their faithfulness. I guess you wouldn't uundestand since u don't truly care about your girls and could give a flying fuck what they do so long as they continue having threesomes with you.
Yes I am a child. What's your point? You're fighting with a child. You're fucking children. If you have a lot in common with 22 year olld then clearly you must be immensely retarded. I can't even relate to people that age. No I havet seen a guy get soore beause imnot a raging whore who has been fuucked so much that I need to go for hours and I don't need nor enjoy rough sex. That's sad that at 22 her pussy is already so desensitized that you would get sore befpre she does. She must have started early an had a ton of partners. Former hooker?
I don't get why you say your relationship is better because yyou have trust. Like yyou said, one of your many children fuck buddies was lying to her otheer bf about fucking you. As far as I know, mm could just as easily be fucking other men you don't know about. Your idea of trust is my idea of delusion. You clearly said that myx bfs must have cheated on me because I wasn't with them 24 7. Well I say th same to you. Mm must be cheeating on you like crazy. Afterall you did say girls cheat more (no idea where you pulled that statisti from)
And 80 percent of all strippers I've seen are ugly. Maybeour standrds are just different. And strippers don't need to look good to get hired. The lack of light hides quite a bit
Almost Jaded
04-27-2011, 10:12 PM
Thanks for your understanding. Any of you work closely with management at Sapphire? Could make things easier, LMAO.
Re Kelly's post most directly, others as well - I'll take the "cheating" thing a step further. The blowup with GF#2 started because she was lying to the OTHER guy, not to me. She wanted to see if things with him would progress past fuck buddies, and lied to him about her involvement with me/us so he wouldn't be uncomfortable developing feelings for her.
So why would I be upset? I knew what was up, I don't even know this guy. So what do I care?
Well, for starters, I felt it incredibly disrespectful to ME for her to protect her relations with him over being honest all around. Almost like, he was "worth" lying to to see where it went, but she still had me as a backup plan or something. Honestly, it's exactly the same reason ladies in the "other woman" position get upset in affairs. She should have either broken up with me to pursue him or been honest with him and let him make up his own mind. Now their relationship is off to a difficult start because with everything that happened, he learned the truth.
I have been a cheater. I have been cheated on. I'm done with that shit both ways. The last girlfriend MM & I had before either of the current ones got kicked to the curb for the same reason - she lied to us about seeing/fucking her ex (when we wouldn't have cared as long as she had a reason), and when she came clean to us we asked if she'd told him about us - nope. SEE-YA.
I will never again lie to or tolerate being lied to by a significant other. Without clear communication and honesty, there is no such thing as trust; what trust there is is based on lies or omissions. Without trust, there's no such thing as a healthy relationship.
As for the coming home horny bit - it works differently for different people. I fully understand the points made above, but i don't believe there are only 2 positions on the matter. I can tell you that last night I bought several dances from a cute girl I've known but never bought dances from, and spent a good chunk of time with her. She got me ALL worked up. When we got home I was rearin' to go - but the dancer responsible for my mood wasn't on my mind at all - why would she be? I have two amazing lovers right here, lol. Thinking about her while being with one or both of them is... Just dumb, lol. Totally pointless. :shrug:
Almost Jaded
04-27-2011, 10:45 PM
Oh boy. Give it up already. You're pathetic.
No one has to audition at sappphires as far as I know. And she mustve auditioned with a bunch of crackheads because when I went they took everyone who had come in unless they seent girls home without my knowing or ttold certain girls in private that they could only work certain shift but as far as I know we were all approved for any shift.
And this was how long ago? Why don't YOU work there anymore? Were you a dayshift only girl? Be honest. Right now the market is saturated with dancers - especially since Rick's closed. They're far pickier than usual. And there IS a hiring process and auditions are on a case by case. They skipped both. They told the whole group they were hiring for day shift only, than took them aside and told them in private that they were the only two approved for open shifts. And give up with the bashing them or calling them ugly already; numerous people on this site have met them in person. And for the record I'm pickier about appearance than just about any guy you will ever meet, because I've always had very attractive women in my life and my standards reflect this.
I don't think there is anthing wrong with wanting to know what your so is up to allll the time. And looking through their email has only proved their faithfulness.
Of course yu see nothing wrong with it. Most over possessive psycho bitches don't, lol. Do you have an issue with them stalking YOU 24/7? Going through your phone, emails, asking about people you talk to? Again - be honest. It shows lack of trust, plain and simple.
I guess you wouldn't uundestand since u don't truly care about your girls and could give a flying fuck what they do so long as they continue having threesomes with you.
HHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHha hahahahahahahhaaahhaaaa... Try again, sweetheart. Your attempts at insults are even more pathetic than your attempts at sounding intelligent. Just stop.
Yes I am a child. What's your point?
My point is that by acknowledging this, you FINALLY admit your flagrant hypocrisy. No problem with being young and less experienced, except of course when you call others out on it - repeatedly.
You're fighting with a child. You're fucking children. If you have a lot in common with 22 year olld then clearly you must be immensely retarded.
I'm fighting with someone with the mentality of a child, that's for DAMNED sure. I'm fucking a couple of GORGEOUS young women. Marrying one of them in fact. Would marry them both if it were legal. You can have a lot in common with someone regardless of their age. There are a lot of things we don't relate on. DUH. Good thing we mesh so well where it matters, huh?
I can't even relate to people that age.
That doesn't surprise me at all. And seeing as I doubt you relate to anyone older except for those just as childish as you (I know some 40 year olds who still act 15 as well), you should probably hang out at junior highschools or MAYBE highschools, where you can have friends on your own level.
No I havet seen a guy get soore beause imnot a raging whore who has been fuucked so much that I need to go for hours and I don't need nor enjoy rough sex. That's sad that at 22 her pussy is already so desensitized that you would get sore befpre she does. She must have started early an had a ton of partners. Former hooker?
So you lack experience in the sack, your hangups and insecurities extend to the bedroom as well, and you're threatened by women who can really blow a guys mind in that department. Makes sense. The rest of that is just another one of your high school level attempts at an insult. Far funnier than it is insulting really, lol - every time you do that, your insecurity and closed mindedness show through marvelously. Keep it up! ;)
I don't get why you say your relationship is better because yyou have trust.
And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, pretty much sums it all up right there.
Like yyou said, one of your many children fuck buddies was lying to her otheer bf about fucking you.
What a marvelous coincidence that I JUST posted an explanation of that one right before your rant, LOL.
As far as I know, mm could just as easily be fucking other men you don't know about. Your idea of trust is my idea of delusion. You clearly said that myx bfs must have cheated on me because I wasn't with them 24 7. Well I say th same to you. Mm must be cheeating on you like crazy. Afterall you did say girls cheat more (no idea where you pulled that statisti from)
First of all, we ARE together very nearly 24/7. Let me tell you how great it is to be in a relationship with someone you can spend that much time with and never get sick of them.
Secondly, why would she bother? If she wanted to spend time with or fuck another guy, she'd just tell me. No point lying, why would she? She knows all she has to do is talk to me about it and she's in the clear. No reason to make it complicated, lol.
See - that whole bit up there could only make sense to someone who doesn't understand trust - which, of course, you were kind enough to point out yourself that you don't.
And 80 percent of all strippers I've seen are ugly. Maybeour standrds are just different. And strippers don't need to look good to get hired. The lack of light hides quite a bit
You still in Vegas? Come to the Brewery Bar & Grill on Sunset & McCloud any Thursday through Sunday between 2 a.m. and 8 a.m., we'll be there at some point, that's where we hang after they get off work. Or just go to Hustler any one of those same days between 6 p.m. and 2 a.m. (depending on when they decide to go in) and ask for dancers Violet and Max. I'll happily post their schedules and stage names at Sapphire once they go back, too.
So when & where can we see you? Pics maybe? C'mon - you gonna keep making statements like that and then HIDE, bitch? You opened this can, don't wimp out now...
They're both hotter than you, smarter than you, and they definitely fuck better than you.
Maybe we should introduce them to your BF? That wouldn't bother you, would it? You take SUCH good care of him, nothing to worry about there, right?
Lord knows they wouldn't give a shit about me meeting you, lol. No threat there! Hell, they'd tell me to fuck you just so you could have it right for once after what you've posted here, LMAO.
Kellydancer
04-27-2011, 10:52 PM
Thanks for your understanding. Any of you work closely with management at Sapphire? Could make things easier, LMAO.
Re Kelly's post most directly, others as well - I'll take the "cheating" thing a step further. The blowup with GF#2 started because she was lying to the OTHER guy, not to me. She wanted to see if things with him would progress past fuck buddies, and lied to him about her involvement with me/us so he wouldn't be uncomfortable developing feelings for her.
So why would I be upset? I knew what was up, I don't even know this guy. So what do I care?
Well, for starters, I felt it incredibly disrespectful to ME for her to protect her relations with him over being honest all around. Almost like, he was "worth" lying to to see where it went, but she still had me as a backup plan or something. Honestly, it's exactly the same reason ladies in the "other woman" position get upset in affairs. She should have either broken up with me to pursue him or been honest with him and let him make up his own mind. Now their relationship is off to a difficult start because with everything that happened, he learned the truth.
I have been a cheater. I have been cheated on. I'm done with that shit both ways. The last girlfriend MM & I had before either of the current ones got kicked to the curb for the same reason - she lied to us about seeing/fucking her ex (when we wouldn't have cared as long as she had a reason), and when she came clean to us we asked if she'd told him about us - nope. SEE-YA.
I will never again lie to or tolerate being lied to by a significant other. Without clear communication and honesty, there is no such thing as trust; what trust there is is based on lies or omissions. Without trust, there's no such thing as a healthy relationship.
As for the coming home horny bit - it works differently for different people. I fully understand the points made above, but i don't believe there are only 2 positions on the matter. I can tell you that last night I bought several dances from a cute girl I've known but never bought dances from, and spent a good chunk of time with her. She got me ALL worked up. When we got home I was rearin' to go - but the dancer responsible for my mood wasn't on my mind at all - why would she be? I have two amazing lovers right here, lol. Thinking about her while being with one or both of them is... Just dumb, lol. Totally pointless. :shrug:
She was cheating you weren't. I've gotten into discussions with people (not here) where they claim anyone having sex with more than one person is cheating. I disagree.
Btw, I want to stress I don't think you and MM are bad, immoral, etc for having a polyamorous relationship. Both of you agree to it and doesn't sound like coercion. I will say though that I think she's a very strong woman because I would be insanely jealous. I hate to share. However, I hate possessive women too, the types that refuse to let their man have a life. Even if I marry I will have a life outside of him. I will not snoop on him and hope he wouldn't to me.
Almost Jaded
04-27-2011, 11:03 PM
To clarify, she was cheating on him, I knew about him all along - I dropped her off at his hotel the first time and about half the times afterward that they hooked up.
Thanks for clarifying, but I never took your posts as insulting or demeaning in any way. Like I said - different people find what works for them.
And THANK YOU for the last sentence. I have lost so many friends to women like that! Okay - not lost their friendship, but once that ring was on the finger, BAM! Everything changed, and we never get to hang out anymore, even at get-togethers with all our friends. We never see these guys anymore. In the most dramatic example, within WEEKS of marrying the girl he'd been with for 4 years - we all knew and liked her, she was part of our inner circle of friends - not only was he no longer allowed to hang out with any of us, but she made him sell his race car and doesn't let him pursue a decade-old hobby anymore! I mean, REALLY?! :rolleyes:
Kellydancer
04-27-2011, 11:14 PM
To clarify, she was cheating on him, I knew about him all along - I dropped her off at his hotel the first time and about half the times afterward that they hooked up.
Thanks for clarifying, but I never took your posts as insulting or demeaning in any way. Like I said - different people find what works for them.
And THANK YOU for the last sentence. I have lost so many friends to women like that! Okay - not lost their friendship, but once that ring was on the finger, BAM! Everything changed, and we never get to hang out anymore, even at get-togethers with all our friends. We never see these guys anymore. :rolleyes:
I feel the same way. Different strokes. The only time I've insulted people with a different lifestyle than me is when they wanted me to participate then called me frigid (this happened). Otherwise as long as one isn't having sex with minors and are free to participate more power to you.
I hate people who think marriage=only being with them. I don't mean sexually, even simple things like hanging out with the same sex friends. I have dated men who's only activity turned into me and I hated it. I have a life outside of men and we should all have one even if married. Even if I marry there will be times I just want to go out with my friends and he should as well. Then again I've always hated the nagging people who try to control the SO. I've seen more women like this but there are men too. I don't need to be controlled nor do I want to control him.
Almost Jaded
04-27-2011, 11:19 PM
^ THAT.
Seriously - lagirl - read that, memorize it, internalize it. All bickering aside, THAT is someone ready for a real relationship.
And Kelly - you're not married yet HOW?! ;)
Kellydancer
04-27-2011, 11:35 PM
Honestly, I have no idea why I'm still single. I think part of it is because I have somewhat high standards and refuse to settle. That is one of my goals this year, to meet a great guy. I am ready to be with someone who appreciates me. Strangely, in the past I've turned men who hated marriage into guys who believed in it. They found there were women like me who don't believe in the ball and chain and they changed their minds. None married me but I didn't want to marry them.
MissMynxx
04-27-2011, 11:38 PM
*rubs temples* Oh my god, my brain.
I'm not going to bother going back through the sheer amount of CRAP and quoting all of it. I'll just make a blanket post and try to work from there. Excuse me if I accidentally repeat any points that someone else made - like I said, blanket post here. First:
@Kellydancer - Thank you for your constructive comments. I understand that the structure my relationship has isn't for everyone, but you obviously understand that traditional monogamy isn't for everyone either, and you don't seem to begrudge anyone their own right to happiness. That mentality - "Not for me, but if it floats your boat, have fun!" - is refreshing. It's open minded, while sticking to your own guns. Nothing wrong with that.
@BringOnTheMen - You win 15 internetz for that post. You are awesome. And thank you for the compliments. lol
@rickdugan - Regarding your comment about uni-directional polyamory vs. traditional non monogamy, Jaded is open to either of us (or any of his) girls having other men. I choose to be "monogamous" to Jaded in the sense that I choose to have him as my sole male partner. Our girlfriend is currently only seeing Jaded as a male partner, but is open to other men in the future and we're all alright with that. All of us are willing and have taken other female partners. And hell, should Jaded ever get a wild hair up his ass to take a male partner, that's fine too. Can't ... really see that happening, though ... :O
Aaaaaaaaaaaaand of course, last but not least:
@lagirl - Oh my god. The levels of immaturity, continued insecurity (that moves from possessive to flat psycho bitch status), and amazing closed minded-ness sort of make me wonder if it's even worth it to post back to you. You are SO stuck in your own little world of delusion, you've actually convinced yourself that you aren't the delusional one. What's it like to be like that? I can't imagine being as brainwashed by social media and insecure and just ... frankly fucking NUTS as you are.
You continue to insult me, my relationship, my fiance, and my girlfriend. Point one finger, and three point RIGHT back at you, sweetie. Take a good, hard look at yourself and the quality and health of YOUR relationships and really think about the statements you've made. I know you won't - you're incapable of turning that sort of objective eye on yourself and looking past your own bullshit and delusions, but it's a suggestion.
The one comment you made that stuck out at me was, "I don't get why you think your relationships are better because you have trust." Jaded said it, and I'm saying it, and I'm practically POSITIVE that everyone here is thinking it - that pretty much sums it up right there. YOU, my dear, are the delusional one. Holy jesus.
Let me make a couple of statements here.
One - Jaded is a fairly attractive man. He never has problems getting a lady. I watch him get flirted with CONSTANTLY. Our girlfriend, and myself, are VERY attractive women. Whether 80% of strippers are ugly or not, (which ... you know, they aren't.) Girlfriend and I do NOT fall into that category. I'll post fuckin' nudie pics if I have to. We are both beautiful girls. In fact, I'm pretty sure Girlfriend is hotter than me in the "traditional" sense.
Two - The open relationship was MY IDEA. Jaded didn't go out looking for tail, I brought it home. The one or two times he's been booty called were with my knowledge and usually a solid push had to come from me before the other girl would participate. I'm the one who brought our Girlfriend home in the first place. I pushed the two of them to really think about having a relationship because I thought they'd be good together. I was right. As usual. lol
Three - I am not a former hooker, unless you count sucking dick for a couple grades in high school. }:D Merely a woman who deeply enjoys sex. Lots of it. Lots of different KINDS of it. With lots of different people. Everyone is different, and that leads to some fantastic different sexual experiences and knowledge. I utterly embrace the word "slut" - to be a woman who is open about the sheer amounts of sex she's had requires a LOT of confidence that many women don't have. There's nothing wrong with sex. And I came out of the whole thing with no kids and no diseases. I got my craziness out, and now I'm settled down. It's awesome - and Jaded SERIOUSLY benefits from my ... acquired knowledge.
You have stated repeatedly that as a 25-year-old, you don't play well with others your age. Did it ever occur to you that maybe I don't either? I have three - count them - THREE close friends under the age of 26. EVERYONE else I hang out with is over 30. The closed-mindedness and "I KNO EVRYTHNG AND IF U DON AGREE WITH ME U R RONG!!!!" mentality is precisely why I don't hang out with people my age. You know - the closed mindedness and know-it-all attitude you YOURSELF are displaying?
And to add to that point about age, you also stated that you didn't think Jaded would touch a woman "his own age" with a 10 foot pole. Crazy ones like you? FUCK no. I wouldn't let him. No crazy bitches no matter how old or young. However, we do have a few women "under our belts" that are his age and older. The majority of women we've played with or he's played with on his own have been over 30. I'd struggle with dating one seriously who was 30+ (and I think she'd struggle too), but playing? Pfft. Older women are still beautiful in their own way. To keep that from being too open to interpretation - it's obvious that because we do in fact, and he does in fact, have 'older' partners, that Jaded will touch a woman his own age with more than a ten foot pole. He'll even stick his WHOLE pole right up in her.
And on the sex note? I never said my pussy doesn't get sore. It does. WAY before his dick. I just kinda like it like that. ;D
Moving right along - you mentioned something about our relationship (in general) being offensive to the entire feminist movement. I thought the feminist movement was all about women having CHOICE and a say in the matter of how they get treated. I choose to be poly with my man. I choose to trust him. Just like I will eventually CHOOSE to quit stripping and CHOOSE to be a housewife. I choose to define love and security in my own way, and hold myself and my relationships to my standards. I like my standards. They work for me - and the immensity of the fuck I do not give that you don't like it is incomprehensible. I'm posting back to you at this point so that there are no misunderstandings out there about me or my household that will reflect badly on me or my household without rebuttal.
You should seriously just give up already. You've already destroyed any positive opinion anyone could have possibly had about you with the way you chose to handle the idea that someone has a differing opinion from you. I will continue to live my life happily, and continue to be sad that people like you exist. You'll go right on thinking you're right and I'm 'delusional'. Whatever, chicky. Ignorance is bliss...
Kellydancer
04-27-2011, 11:49 PM
@Kellydancer - Thank you for your constructive comments. I understand that the structure my relationship has isn't for everyone, but you obviously understand that traditional monogamy isn't for everyone either, and you don't seem to begrudge anyone their own right to happiness. That mentality - "Not for me, but if it floats your boat, have fun!" - is refreshing. It's open minded, while sticking to your own guns. Nothing wrong with that.
There are many more like me out there, but most tend to be quiet. I'm not, I just think that monogamy doesn't work for everyone and why pretend. I know your relationship isn't a swinging lifestyle but I was reading about swinging in the 50's and how many so called "traditional married couples" were into it. In fact I live in a very conservative town (staunch hard right Republican) and one of the open secrets is the swinging club. It doesn't bother me at all. I'm sure there are other couples like your situation as well, but probably quiet about it. I met so many variations of relationships while dancing that it opened my eyes to what is out there. In fact I remember working with a dancer who had a husband, a boyfriend and a girlfriend and she lived with the husband and girlfriend. I often asked her about it because I was curious. It actually sounded like a fun situation because she would tell me it wasn't just sex, there were other factors, including just living. She had her life together far more than many traditional couples I knew.
Btw, you are 100% that feminism is about choice. I am a feminist but get so angry when I see feminists on tv railing against sex. To me part of being a feminist is choosing to have sex with who you want.
Djoser
04-27-2011, 11:56 PM
Alright everybody needs to chill out now, please!
Lagirl, we simply cannot accept you insulting members this way. You have been pointed. I haven't had time (I am at work and this post alone will probably take an hour to write) to read all of the rebuttals to see if they are equally insulting, but it doesn't look like it to me, considering what I read in your post that started this.
I cannot delete posts or close the thread in this section, but I can give more points, and I will if this keeps up.
Almost Jaded
04-28-2011, 12:25 AM
Moving right along - you mentioned something about our relationship (in general) being offensive to the entire feminist movement.
I missed that. Had to go back and look for it. Found this:
How dare you guys even fucking imply that doing something that is common in women hating religions like mormon is anything but ass backwards ancient and offensive to the entire feminist movement. Of course your relatinship is solid. You guysare living in a constant state of denial and delusion.
Oh boy.
First - you apparently know very little bordering on nothing about the Mormon religion. You should probably use an example you actually know a single fucking thing about; although that might be asking a lot as it would be quit a departure for you based on what you've posted thus far. Anyway, the fact of the matter is most Mormons would have a harder time with our relationship than you do. So try again.
As for your implication in general - monogamy is a relatively new concept, dear. Take "women hating religions" out of it. Multiple partner relationships and non-monogamy are MOST OF THE WORLDS HISTORY. Still the norm in many places, in fact. Truth be told -
*THE RIGHT WING RELIGIOUS VIEWS YOU ARE HOLDING AGAINST US ARE THE ONLY REASON YOUR POINT OF VIEW ON THIS TOPIC EVEN EXISTS*
So put THAT on your fork and chew it.
Second - we know and associate with, IRL and online, many people in the Poly community/movement/whatever. MFM relationships are every bit as common OR MORE SO than the FMF triad we have. So..? And MM pointed out and Kellydancer seconded the fact that the feminist movement at its core is about women having the same rights to live their lives as they choose as men do. So calling MM out on HER CHOICES kinda makes you... Well, a chauvinist, LMAO.
And no, as has been repeated here again and again, our relationship is solid because it's based on trust. Trust stemming from honesty, communication, and respect. I anticipate you missing this point yet again, because these concepts are clearly foreign to you, lol. There are no delusions here. Can't be. Do you have any concept whatsoever of how hard it is to have a relationship like this in today's western culture?! We're constantly scrutinized, criticized, and just plain misunderstood everywhere we go. Hell - look at the problems the girls are having at Sapphire! All based on nothing but people misunderstanding our relationship.
Okay, that's enough of that...
EDIT - Sorry DJ, I was writing when you put that up. I won't go off anymore, but I can't let that bit above go unsaid and I can't bring myself to delete it.
Djoser
04-28-2011, 01:15 AM
I can't delete it either. So I guess it's going to stay. You were certainly sorely provoked.
OK, thanks everyone for seeing reason, let's move on now.
tempest666
04-28-2011, 10:07 AM
Going home to an insecure, judgmental, nagging bitch every night is the single fastest road to infidelity there is.
I keep this in my head every time I feel the green eyed monster coming. Thx
lagirl
04-28-2011, 04:48 PM
Omg I'm so sorry. She was totally lying to the other guy and not you and thus that's absolute proof that no girls ever lie to you! Holy fuck! How can someone so old be so vapid? My point is you DON'T KNOW if you're being cheated on because you have sooooo much trust. With that trust you cannot know for sure if they're being faithful. Afterall, you were the first to say I cantt know if I was ever cheated on based oon trust alone. I'm. Just throwing yyour words back at you.
Holy fuck. A guy with 3 fuucking girlfriends is offended at one of the girls thinking of him as backup? Do you not realize how backwards that is? You had 3 gfs. Where did you see your ridiculously female unfriendly reelationship going? Were you planning to move to saudi arabia and marrying all 3? For chrissakes. Even now with 2 gfs you only call 1 a fiance which means thee other one means nothing to you and isn't worth marrrying. Is it any wonder that one girlprefered the other guy? Just like you don't like being second fiddle , this girl didn't like it either. You have no right to expect this girl to think of you a anything less tthan a bank account since you weren't willing to leave your other two sugar babies for her (let's calll it what it is shall we). Afterall I've never heard of a hugh hener type relationship where thegirls weren't being compenateted financially).
And you'd think that after two times dealing with the same thing you'd realize that polyamourous relationships don't work. No girl wants to be one of many. We want to be the one and only.
Its still so funny how you insist that you won't tolerate being lied to. The very definition of a lie implies thatone party is being decieved. If you're being decieved well then you can't possibly know if you're being lied to. Again, I only bring this up because you flat out insisted that there is no way in hell I have never been cheated on. Which is why I brought up that I have proof. I consider myself a good judge of character and I feel like I can easily tell who is a cheater and who isn't and I have never dated a cheater. But clearly you think instinct is enough for you but not for me. Which is why I brought up that I have looked through emails. And I don't need to sneak around to do this. Mybfs trust me. They give me their passwords if they're driving nd need me to access their email. They leave theeir computer on or log into my laptop and don't bother to log off. And I don't even know your fiance yet I was able to predict thatshe had a tattoo, has had sveral partners, started having sex wayyyyy too early,and though I didn't mention this, has severe daddy issues.
I auditind at sapphirs in january. I don't work there often because I live in la. I work there and 2 other clubs. I've never had any problms there and I still get texts from them all the time so clearly I'm not on their shit list. And I've never worked days there. Only weekend nights. How on earth couldthere possibly be an audition process at a club that busy? It would be hectic just trying to get the girls on stage. And sapphires is deserate for dancers right now. Or does your gf not get the texts they send about the "refer a girl and get 20 off housefee"?
Oh and stop with the shessss sooo hottt top 2 percent bullshit. It might work if bringonthemen hadn't mentioned her photo is in the picture forum.
No I wouldn't have a problem with my bf stalking me. I would be flattered that he loved me so muh that he would spy on me to know what I'm always up to. And yes I'm being honest. I am possessive and crave to be needed back. I would welcome a guy who spies on me. It would be super flattering and I don't have anything to hide from him any way. The only time it would be a problem would be if I was hiding something.
What fucked up world do you live in where a girl who hasn't been around the block is a bad thing? Oh right the same world that I lived in where I was 13 and felt like a loser for nothaving had sex with. The same world where I fucked a guy who didn't dserve me simply so I can be "experienced" just like the cool girls. The same wold thatpreessured your fiance to fuck before she even started puberty. So glad I realized fast that thee helll I grew up around wasn't indicative of the real world. In the real world a girl who isn't a slut with no standards is a good thing. But clearly you live in somesodom and gommoric bubble. I understand, hs and middle school were like that too.
And you don't need a ton of experience to have skill. Hell my last long term bf told me ii was awesome at oral sex. Ihad had oral se maybe 10 times prior to him" yet apparantly I was the best hehad ever had. Shit he even starrted reading the kama sutra to try to improve his own skill
But honestlyy I don't need to be good at anything. Guys get turned on enough just looking at me.
Why would she lie? Maybe she thinks its ok to tell u about other girls but knows deep down u wouldn't tolerate her being with another guy. Maybe she's fucking a guy u don't like. Maybe the guy she's fucking isn't cool with polygamy. If "I'm around him all the time" isn't enough to prove my bfs have been faithful. Its not enough to prove your gf isn't lying to you.
And as my nameclearly state, I live in la not vegas. I only commute on the weekends during convention season. And I certainly would not be caught dead at a place called "bar and grill" . Shouldn't a sugar daddy be taking his babies to nicer places? And I definately would not have time to ppost on here if I was in vegas.
And I could post a photo where I look like a supermodeel and you'd still insist she's better looking.
Or I coould be mean and post photos of both of us on one of those "who's hotter" sites,, but that mightget me banned.
As for smarter, when I was your sb agei was in my last semester at a top school. Your sb on the otherhand is obviously not a full time student and there certainly are no high ranked unis in vegas. I'm sorry if my phone spelling makes it seeem otherwise, but I am actually considered fairly intelligent and graduated top 2 percent of my hs class which had over 1k student. I only took honors ap or gifted classes. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm stupid.
As for fuck better, I don't kno nor would I ever want to be with a person wh has been with countless sex partners. Mayybe experience is better than not catching 50 stds and being one of hundreds but its not for me.
And id have no problem wth my bf meeting somone like your sb. He'd probably have little to no respect for her and just be polite to her. The guys I date aren't attracted to a girl like your sb. They like girls who are wholesome, haven't been fcked by bilions of other men and women andwho don't have daddy issues. And yes even as a sttripper I still exude wholesomeness. And I'm so sorry that you see sex as so boring and unimportant that you'd fuck someone you dislikke. That is so sad. Sex is sacred to me. I only sleep with men I can see myself falling in love with. Its far too risky for me to take it lightly. I don't think mm is a strong woman. Quite the contrary, she is weak fr allowing modern hip hop culture to brainwash her into thinking her situation is cool and glamourous. Who knows if she will ever grow out of it and realize how degrading being one of many is
lagirl
04-28-2011, 05:52 PM
argg didn't realize there was more. Whenon earth did I say my guy can't hang out with his friends without me always tagging along (then again unless thyre doing something really boring, why wouldn't he include me)? My bf can have other friends. Hell I even introduce them to my female friends.
Mm I think the fact thatyyou think I need nude photos to be convinced you're not ugly shows how very mtv your mentality is. Ii don't judge a persons attractiveness by how low their boobs hang. I base it on face. Nd consideering you're only 3 years younger I'm willing to bet how you look nude isn't that much different to how I look nude. Silly.
Health of my relationships" both u and ur daddy have admittd uve been cheateed on in the past. I've never been cheated on. I
If you like fuckingmultiple people sooo much why not justbe a hooker? Id have heeps more respect for you if you did that. Why are you so proud of not having standards? Seriously kids nd thheir mtv rotting their brains. I remeber when I thought promescuity was cool. I was 13 and very very brainwashed. No diseases huh" did you know the only way to catch asymptomatic hpv is from an abnormal pap, and believe it or not you won't always have n abnormal pap just because you have hpv. Did u also know more than 80 percent of people will have it by age 50. I would be seriusly shocked if a girl with as many partners as you doesn't have several strains. Oh and hsv is never tested for if you don't have symptoms and don't specifically request an hsvblood test. A lotof places don't eeven do the blood test they just do the swab test which requires a breakout. When you go in for a stndar std test, they don't tell yyou that herpes isn't gonna be tested for. I dare you to go to a place that specializes in thee herpeselector western blot test and drop the 200 bucks for a herpes blood test. You most likely have both trarains, 75 perrcent of people have atleast one type.
3 close friends yet all your female lo vers are 22. Hmm u clearly do relate rather well tto other kids your age.
You'd struggle having a relationship with a woman over 30 because you have the same immature mentality I had when I was 13. You're lucky that there is never a shortage of immature menover 30s otherwise you'd have ahard time finding someone to replace your father and fuck at the same time.
In todays world a housewife is synonymous with a golddigger. I would never let a man support me. That seems like slavery to me.
Kelly I am sorry tthat you have come across such horrible traditional couples that it has made you lose faith in monogomy. Believe me when I say that cheating nor polygamy needs to be part f any relationship and there are men out ther who respect women enough to not crave more than one.
You're right, mormons would have a probklem w your relationship because you let her choose the girls and have group sex. Doesn't changethe fact that men having multiple lovers is by no means modern. It ancient and still common in coutries where women have absolutely no rights. Its funny how you contradict yyurself. Now you're saying it ancient when a few posts ago you were saying how modern and progressive your relationship is. So which is it? So ismonogomy the new progressive thing? Yeah it is still the norm in manyplaes, like saudi arabia. We all know how feminist they are over there!
My love of monogomy hs nothing to do with religion and everythig to do with respect and love for myself. If a man needsto have multiple women its becaue one isn't cutting it for him. I believe I am more than enough to make a man happy and thus I expect nothing less than complete commitment.
But hey have fun your relationship that's inevitebly gonna fall apart when either mm decides she wants more men, grows up, or realizes she's actually a lesbian but kept you around to sooth her daddy issues.
As for how hard it is. You live in vegas for fucks sake. The media idolizes relationships like yours. Look at hugh hefnr nd the numerous men rying to emulatehim. Id say a tradiitional one on one relationship is what's cconsidered "lame" in todays world.
Almost Jaded
04-29-2011, 08:46 AM
Edited 'cuz the whole site doesn't need to see what I REALLY thought of her...
sananeko
04-29-2011, 10:43 AM
I know shes already banned but I'm confused by her logic and reason..
Almost Jaded
04-29-2011, 11:29 AM
Or total lack thereof...
I really don't get it. MM & I both explained that the relationship as it is now is the GIRLS idea, NOT MINE, that it was MM who wanted other women in the relationship in the first place, that I was uncomfortable - and still am a little - about the age gap, - blah blah blah - everything she went off about ME being sick & wrong for.
And it's not like we're trying to say monogamy is wrong, or that people cant be happy that way - we've found something that works for us. Apparently that's a problem. So she responds with more insults and accusations about me being some kind of womanizing pedophile or something.
$100 says she makes the news for cutting some poor guys dick off someday.
MissMynxx
04-29-2011, 11:34 AM
I just wanted to throw out a quick statement here:
Apologies to tempest666 for the horrible threadjack. I'm so sorry, sweetheart.
Apologies to the entirety of StripperWeb for the sheer amounts of BS and drama that happened in said threadjack. No one should have been subjected to that - even if it was an entertaining (for the most part) after-work-with-coffee read. lol
Apologies to the mods for AJ and I both losing our cool and going off on lagirl - it was uncalled for in a lot of ways - but in our own defense, we were pretty seriously provoked. Jesus. /:O
Thank you to those who had constructive replies to both the original post, and to the posts AJ and I made in response to lagirl. It was really fantastic to see how many people really CAN be open-minded to different relationship styles, and different things that work for different people.
Thank you to those who were able to disagree with AJ, me, and even lagirl in a CONSTRUCTIVE manner.
And last but not least - THANK YOU TO THE MODS FOR BANNING HER AND NOT US. OMG.
My brain can now rest in peace, secure in the knowledge it will no longer have to process such ... lively ... uh ... "debate".
Addison
04-29-2011, 11:41 AM
summary, please.
Almost Jaded
04-29-2011, 12:04 PM
There was discussion about jealousy in relationships, I quoted lagirl and made some points based on her post, she responded with a super long and directly insulting reply, MM & I both responded by picking it apart and calling her out on her BS, she responded with more insults and BS, I responded by once again picking her post and argument apart, she responded with more insults and BS twice, I responded by getting a little nastier, DJ gave her some points and told everyone to cut it out, she posted twice more without addressing a single point either of us made with more insults and BS, she got banned.
Kellydancer
04-29-2011, 12:22 PM
Kelly I am sorry tthat you have come across such horrible traditional couples that it has made you lose faith in monogomy. Believe me when I say that cheating nor polygamy needs to be part f any relationship and there are men out ther who respect women enough to not crave more than one.
I have to say that I read her posts and had to read them twice because I didn't understand. Since she asked if I lost faith in monogamy the answer is no. I know many happy monogamous couples, in my family alone there are countless. I've had boyfriends who were monogamous and I hope I find a monogamous boyfriend. However, my point is that even though I hope to have a monogamous relationship I don't judge those who don't. The only exceptions would be if someone asked me to join them in sex (had this happen in person and I declined), attacking me for being mongamous, or situations were I have to pay (such as taxpayers). None of this happened here, I didn't see anyone attacking me for being monogamous and those in non monogamous relationships aren't being supported by taxpayers.
Btw, I'm not sure where the HPV comments came from, but I was diagnosed with it in 2005. I have discussed this often and had it removed via a LEEP procedure. Most women get it. I've known women who got it from long time monogamous relationships.
Djoser
04-29-2011, 08:30 PM
AJ, do me a favor and delete the one post, alright? I know you were provoked, but I can't have it in reply, to be fair. And as of yet I can't delete it.
kthnx
04-30-2011, 02:29 AM
NEVERMIND, sw just erased my whole long thoughtful response 2 sec ago and I really don't feel like retyping it all >:( maybe later
KS_Stevia
04-30-2011, 11:32 AM
All that being said, I gotta say, if I had a wife and she went and paid 3-400$ for Rex to rub his dick all over her pussy for an hour or so, then she came home all horny and wanted to fuck me----no fucking chance. I wouldn't let her get anywhere near me. Actually I'd be out the fucking door.
You do realize that's not how male strip clubs work, like, at all, right? Its just not the same dynamic at all. Some dirty stuff might go on, but its the exception rather than the rule.
Would you seriously be pissed if your lady had a girls night out and got a lapdance at the male revue? Because I've had many and only one of them involved any genital rubbing because the dancer was high on X and initiated everything himself...even then, it was only for a few seconds. Every other dance I've had from men was clean fun.
Mindy Bares All
04-30-2011, 01:10 PM
^^^ It's the principal behind it. Say it wasn't a strip club. Your spouse is paying a hefty sum of money to get some sort of intimacy else where. Be it physical, or emotional. It might not be so bad, if the spouse wasn't paying the money.
I think that's closer to what Djoser was getting at.
princessjas
04-30-2011, 01:33 PM
Oh dear gawd! I can't even finish reading this drivel. I barely made it to page 3!
I guess I am just a 35 yr old immature child, since I do occassionally enjoy visiting nightclubs or stripclubs. lol
Apparently I also don't care about my relationship that has endured several years because I don't nose into everything like a crazy person?!? And oh, jeez, don't get me started on my bisexuality and how much it turns me on to hear about him getting a lapdance or how much he enjoys hearing about my gf and I together or how my dearest wish is to one day get to share her.....notice I said MY dearest wish, not his? lol I must not care about either one of these people.....nope, not at all. ::)
Seriously, some of us are just built differently. I would bet money I care deeper than half the monogamous people out there, I just run a little differently when it comes to relationships, especially jealously, possesiveness and trust. Oh, and it is NOT odd for bi women to decide to only play with other women with or without their partners and remain "faithful" as far as men are concerned. I've found it to be especially common with submissive women. It's like a little gift to your master, one that isn't asked for or maybe not even desired, but is often freely given. ;)
I really don't understand why enjoying this particular dynamic is any harder to understand than some other kinky crap "monogamous" people do. AJ & MM, I thought you both did extremely well at keeping your cool under the circumstances. Having your relationship and feelings for one another judged is straight up BS. I'd have been banned for sure if I'd seen this thread while the argument was still going on.
KS_Stevia
04-30-2011, 01:37 PM
^^^ It's the principal behind it. Say it wasn't a strip club. Your spouse is paying a hefty sum of money to get some sort of intimacy else where. Be it physical, or emotional. It might not be so bad, if the spouse wasn't paying the money.
I think that's closer to what Djoser was getting at.
No, I don't think it was. Women get emotional intimacy elsewhere all the time, from our friends, therapists, person who does our hair sometimes, lol.
If I know Djoser, its going to be about the physical aspect, the part that is arguably cheating.