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tempest666
05-20-2011, 03:06 PM
. A pretty face goes a long way too, and a lot of guys will choose a dancer with a hot face and a so-so body over a dancer with a banging body and a plain or ugly face.


I wish this were true, but a friend of mine back home has a gorgeous face, but she is heavy. She was complaining about how she wasn't making any $$$ because of another dancer whom she has had a long standing feud with. Dancer B has banging bod (fake tits, toned abs etc) but meh in the features dept. I didn't have the heart to tell her having a face like Helen of Troy will NOT guarantee the launch of a thousand wallets.

bustybabe312
05-20-2011, 03:11 PM
[quote=DesuvsDeath;



I don't mean to sound like a bitch, but so what?
In your avatar you look 173 pounds. So I'm not sure what the point of your mentioning it was?
Was it supposed to be paired with the above statement that men in the clubs you worked at liked your body... because, yeah, you mentioned you worked with a lot of bigger girls... so of course they would.[/quote]


Bitch, y r u on my clit??? If your dumb ass read the original posting carefully, you'd see that a weight number was applied. U can sit around and believe that ALL men like skeletons if you want to, BUT, your grossly in error. U can't hate on my weight because my body is L.O.V.E.L.Y.!

Now dig, when I first read your quote and statement, I tripped but I understand now that you just need to eat a little bit more and you'll be alright. LOLOL, but so what huh?

AGAIN...men do appreciate shapely women...hell, they all were in total love with Marilyn and Anna and we all know those broads were thick than a snicka!

DesuvsDeath
05-20-2011, 03:13 PM
I get that (one club I worked at had all girls who looked the same) but I guess I don't get it on a larger (no pun intended scale). For instance I ran an agency and I had a variety, including one fat girl who was drop dead gorgeous outside of her weight. If I had just say tall thin blondes I don't think I would have gotten many customers I did. I did draw the line at certain types (I generally avoided anyone who would bring in ghetto clients of any race).
Yeah, but an agency is different than a strip club... as you'd want to be able to cater to all customer types rather than picking a specific market. At least... in my opinion anyway.


Now when I danced at clubs I often made money because I looked different than the other girls, for instance at one club I was one of the few brunettes (the owner would hire anyone blonde but other hair colors had to be smoking hot). A girl I worked with was the only alternative girl with sleeves of tats and she made a killing with that look.
In my experience the girls who stand out the most get a few customers who "Omg I lovvvve your look" and that's where all their money comes from. Meanwhile... the other 95% of the customers want nothing to do with her and are annoyed while she's bothering them.

Hell, I've BEEN the only tattoo girl in an all vanilla club... and while I still made awesome money... there were always reviews on the site complaining about how "hiring standards had dropped and they're letting girls covered in 'nasty' tattoos work there now" and MOST of the customers looked at me like I was stupid when I asked them for a dance.
I'd make ALL my money on 1-2 guys every night... and the rest of the time it was like pulling teeth. Half the time when I did get dances the customers would comment on how they were surprised that I got hired there, even though I was stunning... because I'm not the typical image that club presents.

miss1dancypants
05-20-2011, 03:22 PM
^^ wow, that's crazy. i saw your pics and you are HAWWT!!

if i had any money, i would blow it all on you. HA

((thats when you know to move on to the next customer))

tampadancer
05-20-2011, 03:28 PM
AGAIN...men do appreciate shapely women...hell, they all were in total love with Marilyn and Anna and we all know those broads were thick than a snicka!

oh god... I HATE it when heavy girls use Marilyn Monroe as an example of a "thick" women. Dude, her measurements, as recorded by her dressmaker, were 36-23-37. She was 5'5" and weighed 117 lbs before she died. That's comparable to about a size 2-4 today. She may have been a size 12 by size standards fifty years ago, but the explosion of fat women in the US has led to vanity sizing, so clothes sizes are completely different today.

I would not call Monroe "thick."

DesuvsDeath
05-20-2011, 03:48 PM
Bitch, y r u on my clit??? If your dumb ass read the original posting carefully, you'd see that a weight number was applied. U can sit around and believe that ALL men like skeletons if you want to, BUT, your grossly in error. U can't hate on my weight because my body is L.O.V.E.L.Y.!

Now dig, when I first read your quote and statement, I tripped but I understand now that you just need to eat a little bit more and you'll be alright. LOLOL, but so what huh?

AGAIN...men do appreciate shapely women...hell, they all were in total love with Marilyn and Anna and we all know those broads were thick than a snicka!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. I'm 'on your clit' as you so eloquently put it because you tried to make a ridiculous closed statement like 'men like hips and thighs'. I was merely correcting you by saying that different men like different things.
Yes, SOME MEN do appreciate curvier women... and some men think girls over 100 pounds look disgusting.a I never claimed that men only liked 'skeletons' and not fat girls.. Please learn to read before you get all crazy and vulgar, thanks.

I read the original posting. She mentioned her current weight, yes. But you can take 3 different women who all weigh the exact same and they can have COMPLETELY different bodies. Since you didn't bother to read through the rest of the posts before commenting (which was your first mistake) you'd see that it's been repeatedly pointed out that numbers don't mean a damn thing because you can be toned and tight or a flabby mess at the same weight.

If anyone is hating on someone's weight it's clearly you hating on mine by saying that I need to eat more... which is completely ridiculous because you don't even know what I look like.
I was merely saying that you LOOK like you weigh 173 pounds, so it made sense that you would be making good money in a club that hires bigger girls.. If you don't want someone to comment on your body... don't use yourself as an example and don't bring up your weight.


Now why don't you act like a reasonable, sane person and stop making yourself look like a fool.

princessjas
05-20-2011, 04:17 PM
In my experience the girls who stand out the most get a few customers who "Omg I lovvvve your look" and that's where all their money comes from. Meanwhile... the other 95% of the customers want nothing to do with her and are annoyed while she's bothering them.

Hell, I've BEEN the only tattoo girl in an all vanilla club... and while I still made awesome money... there were always reviews on the site complaining about how "hiring standards had dropped and they're letting girls covered in 'nasty' tattoos work there now" and MOST of the customers looked at me like I was stupid when I asked them for a dance.
I'd make ALL my money on 1-2 guys every night... and the rest of the time it was like pulling teeth. Half the time when I did get dances the customers would comment on how they were surprised that I got hired there, even though I was stunning... because I'm not the typical image that club presents.

This is so true! I made killer money in a club with super duper thin girls who wore little makeup and most had tatts. Think girl next door with tatts. All my money was from a few guys a night though, and I ALWAYS let guys approach me unless they were seriously eyeing me or tipping really well.

KS_Stevia
05-20-2011, 04:19 PM
I agree that men like certain things, but the problem I've seen (and had male friends complain to me) is how often certain clubs only had specific looks. For instance one of the clubs for awhile had a rule that you had to fit into a certain outfit or you were fat (I think the size was 2). This club also tended to only hire blondes. Incidentally I was rejected more for being a brunette than being above a size 2.

I've never ever heard of this. Size two wasn't even that common until about 10 years ago when the sizing changed. Same with the hair color. Maybe Texas is more laid back about these things.

The one thing I've seen down here, in spades, is girls being rejected for their race, big and small.

princessjas
05-20-2011, 04:29 PM
I've never ever heard of this. Size two wasn't even that common until about 10 years ago when the sizing changed. Same with the hair color. Maybe Texas is more laid back about these things.

The one thing I've seen down here, in spades, is girls being rejected for their race, big and small.

Some clubs are just weird. If you remember, right when I joined I posted about gettin dissed at this club where all the dancers were super duper tan, blonde, huge baseball boobies and biceps the size of my thighs. They all literally looked like female body-builders!!

After that nothing suprises me! :D

O, once I was put on a scale too! The manager was saying your so pretty, I hope I can hire you.

KS_Stevia
05-20-2011, 04:41 PM
Some clubs are just weird. If you remember, right when I joined I posted about gettin dissed at this club where all the dancers were super duper tan, blonde, huge baseball boobies and biceps the size of my thighs. They all literally looked like female body-builders!!

After that nothing suprises me! :D

O, once I was put on a scale too! The manager was saying your so pretty, I hope I can hire you.

The scale thing I'm familiar with, although I've never had to do it myself. I don't even own a scale, the only reason I ever know how much I weight is from the doctor's office or ocassionally weigh self on gym scale.

bustybabe312
05-20-2011, 05:02 PM
Sheesh...next yall will be typing that Jenn Hewitt isn't thick. lolololol She has hips, legs and thighs but some of you will type that she's fat becuz her legs don't look like Lady Gaga's. lolol



Anyway, I don't have to read every single post. The main post is the original poster's, no? You can do that all day D. As far as I don't know what you look like...that was pure sarcasm due to the fact, I don't give a rat's ass what you look like because you don't stop my money honey!

So...you didn't have a comment about Anna Nicole huh? Go figure!

Correction, I never typed that ALL men like thick women....quote me where I did and your argument is valid with me. BUUUT, being that I didn't, go catch a flight somewhere with the bullshit. You commented on my weight/body....I know you wish you had shape. In fact, why don't you post a pic for all of us to see? If it's nice, I'll give you props. If not, then I might waste a little bit of time and comment about it.

Kellydancer
05-20-2011, 05:06 PM
Yeah, but an agency is different than a strip club... as you'd want to be able to cater to all customer types rather than picking a specific market. At least... in my opinion anyway.


In my experience the girls who stand out the most get a few customers who "Omg I lovvvve your look" and that's where all their money comes from. Meanwhile... the other 95% of the customers want nothing to do with her and are annoyed while she's bothering them.

Hell, I've BEEN the only tattoo girl in an all vanilla club... and while I still made awesome money... there were always reviews on the site complaining about how "hiring standards had dropped and they're letting girls covered in 'nasty' tattoos work there now" and MOST of the customers looked at me like I was stupid when I asked them for a dance.
I'd make ALL my money on 1-2 guys every night... and the rest of the time it was like pulling teeth. Half the time when I did get dances the customers would comment on how they were surprised that I got hired there, even though I was stunning... because I'm not the typical image that club presents.

Then it's their (the customers) loss. You won't appeal to everyone, neither will I, or anyone else for that matter. I've seen women with the "typical" stripper look (blonde, fake tits, thin, tanned, etc) get rejected and seen heavier girls get more customers. That's why I've always been of the view that every dancer needs to know their target audience. Younger white men thought I was too heavy and younger black men thought I was way too skinny. Look wise I am darker than many dancers and have always considered that a bigger problem then my bodytype. I've never really had a problem getting customers at most clubs except oddly at extras ridden clubs.

bustybabe312
05-20-2011, 05:09 PM
Oh!!

Ladies!! Check out the picture post of the voluptuous, thick and curvy women.... I dare any of u to type that any of those girls are fat with the hips, thighs and asses!!


Oh yea....ice t's wife, coco.....is definitely thick! She clean up in any club with all of that body! The skeletons wouldn't have a chance with her on the scene.

Kellydancer
05-20-2011, 05:09 PM
oh god... I HATE it when heavy girls use Marilyn Monroe as an example of a "thick" women. Dude, her measurements, as recorded by her dressmaker, were 36-23-37. She was 5'5" and weighed 117 lbs before she died. That's comparable to about a size 2-4 today. She may have been a size 12 by size standards fifty years ago, but the explosion of fat women in the US has led to vanity sizing, so clothes sizes are completely different today.

I would not call Monroe "thick."

This. Recently I was watching an episode of I Love Lucy and it was mentioned she was wearing a size 12. Anyone who would watch that show could tell that Lucille Ball was not a size 12 by today's standards. In fact I remarked to the person I was watching tv with that no way was she a size 12 today.

Kellydancer
05-20-2011, 05:13 PM
I've never ever heard of this. Size two wasn't even that common until about 10 years ago when the sizing changed. Same with the hair color. Maybe Texas is more laid back about these things.

The one thing I've seen down here, in spades, is girls being rejected for their race, big and small.

This was going on at a few clubs, which was odd. They wanted a certain type of girl so they judged based on size. This was years ago when the economy was better and no doubt some clubs still do this. Hair color has always been an issue in some clubs. I'm sure in this case it has to do with what the manager likes.

BringOnTheMen
05-20-2011, 05:28 PM
Oh!!

Ladies!! Check out the picture post of the voluptuous, thick and curvy women.... I dare any of u to type that any of those girls are fat with the hips, thighs and asses!!


Oh yea....ice t's wife, coco.....is definitely thick! She clean up in any club with all of that body! The skeletons wouldn't have a chance with her on the scene.

http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=152825

not my club.

nor any other club in my city.

Stop using the phrase "skeleton" to describe every girl who isn't overweight. It's insulting, and it shows you have body issues.

Kellydancer
05-20-2011, 05:31 PM
For some odd reason I when I see "skeletons" I was thinking of women who wear skeleton shirts like in movies and tv.

bustybabe312
05-20-2011, 05:33 PM
OKOKOK..

Is this better: The underweight women wouldn't have a chance with Coco on deck?

Not your club or any club in your city? Your in the Bay Area??? San Fran, Oakland, San Jose??? Yea right!

Kellydancer
05-20-2011, 05:34 PM
Worse than obese IMOis what the modeling industry terms "No man's land" for sizes. Kelly and I seem to fit into this purgatory. Anything in the 5-7-9 or 6-8ish range. You're too thick for the barely legal spinner look and too skinny for the euphemistically termed "BBW" crowd. -_-

Yep. I sometimes had a problem because I was too large for the upscale clubs that wanted a certain look and too thin for the large women clubs. I even had a guy tell me I should gain weight (or pad myself) to go to the bbw club.

Kellydancer
05-20-2011, 05:39 PM
OKOKOK..

Is this better: The underweight women wouldn't have a chance with Coco on deck?

Not your club or any club in your city? Your in the Bay Area??? San Fran, Oakland, San Jose??? Yea right!

I had to Google Coco because I had no idea who she is. She's thick but not as large as some of the fatties I've danced with.

Btw, just because someone isn't as thick as her doesn't mean they are underweight. I have never been that thick yet I am far from underweight. I have a small butt and thin hips.

princessjas
05-20-2011, 05:47 PM
I had to Google Coco because I had no idea who she is. She's thick but not as large as some of the fatties I've danced with.

Btw, just because someone isn't as thick as her doesn't mean they are underweight. I have never been that thick yet I am far from underweight. I have a small butt and thin hips.

I have a big ass, tiny waist and huge tits (DDDs), but never used my body type as an excuse to be overweight. Coco would look like a mammoth beside me.

Kellydancer
05-20-2011, 05:55 PM
I have a big ass, tiny waist and huge tits (DDDs), but never used my body type as an excuse to be overweight. Coco would look like a mammoth beside me.

I never used it as an excuse either. Even though I have the body type where I look good with a few extra pounds I never thought that meant I could and should sit around eating ho hos. I don't have a big ass at all and when I have gained weight it's mostly in my boobs.

mediocrity
05-20-2011, 06:00 PM
Ok, I know this is trite but I read all this to my husband and this is what he says:

"Don't make assumptions or statements for the entire male species. Some of us like thin girls. Some of us don't want to be thrown around by someone our own size. There's something to be said about petite, and delicate women. Until you have a penis, don't make assumptions on what men do or do not like."

BringOnTheMen
05-20-2011, 06:06 PM
OKOKOK..

Is this better: The underweight women wouldn't have a chance with Coco on deck?

Not your club or any club in your city? Your in the Bay Area??? San Fran, Oakland, San Jose??? Yea right!

No, not underweight women, women who are not overweight. AKA women who are of a healthy weight.

There are no strip clubs in Oakland, but if there were, I am sure that overweight women would do fine (well, as fine as you can when all of your custies are section 8 ). In San Francisco, no, overweight women do not do well. I have not been to San Jose clubs but from what I hear they are similar to San Francisco clubs, as many girls rotate throughout clubs in both cities.

Kellydancer
05-20-2011, 06:07 PM
Sheesh...next yall will be typing that Jenn Hewitt isn't thick. lolololol She has hips, legs and thighs but some of you will type that she's fat becuz her legs don't look like Lady Gaga's. lolol



Anyway, I don't have to read every single post. The main post is the original poster's, no? You can do that all day D. As far as I don't know what you look like...that was pure sarcasm due to the fact, I don't give a rat's ass what you look like because you don't stop my money honey!

So...you didn't have a comment about Anna Nicole huh? Go figure!

Correction, I never typed that ALL men like thick women....quote me where I did and your argument is valid with me. BUUUT, being that I didn't, go catch a flight somewhere with the bullshit. You commented on my weight/body....I know you wish you had shape. In fact, why don't you post a pic for all of us to see? If it's nice, I'll give you props. If not, then I might waste a little bit of time and comment about it.

If you are talking Anna Nicole during her early Playboy days then she was thick but not fat. Later on though she became a fat ass.

It's nice that some men find you attractive but not all men will. Yes some men will think you are fat just like some men don't find me attractive. That's fine.

Addison
05-20-2011, 06:40 PM
Ok, I know this is trite but I read all this to my husband and this is what he says:

"Don't make assumptions or statements for the entire male species. Some of us like thick girls. Some of us don't want to throw around someone our daughter's size. There's something to be said about thick, and sexy women. Until you have a penis, don't make assumptions on what men do or do not like."


Thread closed.

DesuvsDeath
05-20-2011, 06:47 PM
Anyway, I don't have to read every single post. Maybe you should have. Would've stopped you from saying dumbass things like
I know you wish you had shape. when I posted my measurements like 2 pages back. ::)
Since apparently you don't care enough to read so you know what's going on... I've got MUCH curvier measurements than you... so LOL @ I wish I had shape. See... where you're basically the same thickness the whole way down... I have big tits, a tiny waist and a big ass. 34(D cup)-24-41
Sorry to disappoint, though.

If you didn't give a rat's ass... you wouldn't be responding in such an insulting, aggressive, pathetic manner. Why don't you check your attitude and speak like a reasonable person? You're rude and a total loud mouth and maybe you should consider talking to people the way you'd want to be talked.

I didn't have a comment about Anna Nicole because her weight was all over the damn place. Half the time she was ALMOST decent looking... the rest she was a fat fucking cow.

I'm still not sure why you're all hung up on my correcting you by saying that not all men like thick women. You said they did... I clarified that not all men did. If that's what you meant, great... why the fuck are you arguing about it?

DesuvsDeath
05-20-2011, 06:55 PM
For some odd reason I when I see "skeletons" I was thinking of women who wear skeleton shirts like in movies and tv.

That's so funny... I'm totally wearing my skeleton PJ shirt! <3



Thread closed.
Not really... because the thread isn't supposed to be about what men do or don't find attractive...
It's about fat strippers and whether or not their presence would effect someones choice to work/not work in a club. We're just a bit off topic since we started debating whether or not men were turned off enough by seeing fat women to it effect other girls in the clubs. :P


I still maintain that while MOST girls are welcome to dance... they're not welcome in every club and clubs do better when that's true. I wouldn't work in a club full of fat girls because my regulars (who follow me club to club <3) don't like to see them and are hesitant to come in and see me unless they're SURE I've got free time available for them the second they walk through the door if I'm working somewhere they're worried about fat girls sitting on them. 100% srs... I had to switch clubs (I was trying out a new place) because my regulars were all being pestered to death by said 'undesirables' and it annoyed the piss out of them.

Addison
05-20-2011, 07:14 PM
Fine, thread reopened?

BTW, if anyone gets bored, I highly suggest replacing the words "fat girls" with "black girls" or "tatt girls" and reliving the fun of this thread all over again in a new light. yay drama http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee485/qdtxadd/woot.gif

BringOnTheMen
05-20-2011, 07:19 PM
Fine, thread reopened?

BTW, if anyone gets bored, I highly suggest replacing the words "fat girls" with "black girls" or "tatt girls" and reliving the fun of this thread all over again in a new light. yay drama http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee485/qdtxadd/woot.gif

It's not the same at all and if you don't understand that then you are either stupid or a troll.

bustybabe312
05-20-2011, 07:19 PM
Don't just post stats...post the pics....same thickness all the way down? Chile puleeze, don't ever try to state that I don't have shape and my body is just straight up and down. If it makes you feel better to believe that myth, then do what you must...smh..

Your upset because you can't quote where I supposedly typed "ALL" men like ass, tits and hips. Aaaaawwweeee po' ass baby! WTFE! Where's your quote??? Get over it, it doesn't exist!

So ummmm, when are you going to post your pics? For clarification there's an eleven inch differential from a 36 bust to 47 hips....DUH!! There's a 13 inch differential to the 47 hips. "SAME THICKNESS ALL THE WAY DOWN" Bitch, oops, GIRL, you are a clown!

AAAANYWAY....ANY THICK OR EVEN BIGGER GIRL THAT HAS THE ORDASITY TO DON A PAIR OF HEELS, GET ON A STAGE AND SHAKE WHAT HER MOMMA GAVE HER, IT'S HER GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO DO JUST THAT!! U GO GURLS!! SHAKE THE HATERS OFF CUZ THEY C.L.E.A.R.L.Y. EXIST TO ONLY TRY TO BRING U DOWN AND MAKE U THINK THAT NO MAN ALIVE WOULD EVER WANT U TO DANCE FOR HIM. FUCK THOSE VULTURES CUZ THEY ARE TRULY ONLY....... BUZZARDS.

Furthermore, any thick or bigger girls reading this stat needs to understand that "you cannot let anyone including any bitches on here, define YOUR beauty"! The hoes get confused when you step up in the club and get money. They don't want you to have any. They don't think your worthy of making any money in a stripclub. Let them have the personal issues with your bodies because what they eat...don't make you shit.

bustybabe312
05-20-2011, 07:21 PM
ADDISON- u can get racial if you want to. Were you grandparents slave owners?? Were they also in the KKK?

DesuvsDeath
05-20-2011, 07:22 PM
Fine, thread reopened?

BTW, if anyone gets bored, I highly suggest replacing the words "fat girls" with "black girls" or "tatt girls" and reliving the fun of this thread all over again in a new light. yay drama http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee485/qdtxadd/woot.gif

Lol.
My response would be the same - it's fine that they work, but they may not be appropriate for all clubs.

I'm a tatted girl. I shouldn't work in or get hired at very high end clubs unless I cover all my shit so it looks like I have no tattoos. ;D
If I were EXTREMELY tatted like, ink on my face extreme... I would say that I should only work at a club that catered to customers who liked such extremity.

DesuvsDeath
05-20-2011, 07:28 PM
Don't just post stats...post the pics
Maybe you should stop being lazy. There are pics of my body already posted on this site.

....same thickness all the way down? Uhhh. I'm looking at your picture right now. Yeah... you're basically the same thickness the whole way down..


For clarification there's an eleven inch differential from a 36 bust to 47 hips....DUH!! There's a 13 inch differential to the 47 hips. For clarification your tits aren't next to your ass... there's a waist in the middle. There's a 13 inch difference between 34 and 47... and a 17 inch difference between 24 and 41 There is also only a 2 inch difference between 36 34... and a 10 inch difference between 34 and 24.



Someone wanna, uh, do something about this troll trying to start a flame war?
I'll be blocking this person in the mean time. There's no point in arguing with crazy and ignorant. <3

Addison
05-20-2011, 07:34 PM
It's not the same at all and if you don't understand that then you are either stupid or a troll.

It's not as comfortable to talk about, but customers complain about those things too and it may even affect other dancer's money. I can post reviews if you want me to?

BringOnTheMen
05-20-2011, 07:42 PM
Actual reviews from clubs in my area that hire bigger girls:
"It has really gone downhill...In 2003, I had even a little better time with a really cute blond. But in 2007, I felt like I got hustled by a girl who had a few extra pounds."

"The first couple of girls who showed up were not very good looking at all. Even though I was the only guy there, they seemed uninterested. I cut my losses and left"

"Anyway, this used to be an awesome place. you could see all kinds of woman from 2's and 3's to many solid 9's. Im afraid to say that this is now where all the chubby older strippers go to die i guess....wow i would say the best looking one was a 5 and she was probably in her 40's."

"2 black girls were dancing together, not very sexually, and neither of them was anything to look at."

"There weren't many girls there, and a couple were fat and ugly."

"Most were 3-4 (out of 10). No one was working the stage. I was quickly approached by the only half decent dancer in the place."

Here are reviews from the clubs in my city that have size limits and actually enforce them:
"Really hot girls in *****...you won't be disappointed!"

"The dancers are high class and mostly no hassle."

"Damn there's some fine women working here! "

"I got dances from probably the most incredible girs I'd ever have in any of my visits!"

"The dancers were mostly hot, all of them very skinny."

"But the girls were attractive, and danced well."


One of the main differences between the reviews for the clubs that hire bigger girls and the clubs that don't, is that most of the reviews for the former just describe the general club and quality of girls before saying something along the lines of "I cut my losses and left," whereas the clubs with size standards have many reviews detailing specific dances, VIPs, and CRs with particular dances. Clubs with size standards have happier customers who spend more money.

BringOnTheMen
05-20-2011, 07:50 PM
It's not as comfortable to talk about, but customers complain about those things too and it may even affect other dancer's money. I can post reviews if you want me to?

I have never heard of a club where custies complained about race, assuming the dancers had well kept hair (no afro), was in shape, and spoke English correctly.

With tats, dancers also have control over whether or not they have them (just like they have a control over their weight) so dancers that choose to get overly tatted should know that they cannot have their cake and eat it too and dance at whatever club they want.

BringOnTheMen
05-20-2011, 07:54 PM
For clarification your tits aren't next to your ass... there's a waist in the middle.

Actually, there are plenty of women whose tits ARE right next to their ass. There are also women who don't have a waist. These women frequently call themselves "curvy" and hate on SCs who don't think they should be taking their clothes off in public.

DesuvsDeath
05-20-2011, 07:58 PM
^^^LOL. Ilu. <333


I have never heard of a club where custies complained about race, assuming the dancers had well kept hair (no afro), was in shape, and spoke English correctly.
I think it depends on what part of the country you're in.
Most of the complaints about racist custies seems to emerge from Texas, from what I've seen.


I once had a customer comment to me that the club was "Getting a little too dark for my taste, if you know what I mean..." after a new manager had hired several black girls. So I'd imagine it happens... but only as often as people are willing to admit to being racist.

Addison
05-20-2011, 08:00 PM
I have never heard of a club where custies complained about race, assuming the dancers had well kept hair (no afro), was in shape, and spoke English correctly.

With tats, dancers also have control over whether or not they have them (just like they have a control over their weight) so dancers that choose to get overly tatted should know that they cannot have their cake and eat it too and dance at whatever club they want.

I won't touch that "well kept hair (no afro)" comment, although that's pretty effing offensive ...

But, seriously, have you never heard of clubs having a black girl quota? Not hiring too many black chicks in fear of losing customers because guys just aren't attracted to them? Shall I post reviews? Shall I link to the dozens of SW threads on the issue? Trust me, it happens..

And I'm the stupid troll? ::) Allllllllrighty then. *raises both hands, turns on heel and leaves thread, shaking head*

[/END THREAD JACK] Back to your regularly scheduled programming, ladies...

BringOnTheMen
05-20-2011, 08:05 PM
^^^ :(

Super liberal SF has spoiled me...I like to think racism doesn't exist.

Sorry other girls have to deal with that...but if it were the case, I still would not say that fat and race are interchangeable.

DesuvsDeath
05-20-2011, 08:06 PM
^A lot of the time it's not the CLUB with a black quota... it's the manger.
At my old club our GM got fired, the new one hired probably 10 black girls in the 3 months he was there, the manager that replaced him fired them all.

I didn't think about 'black quota' in regards to where black girls should or shouldn't work, though... because that's not really under their control.


The biggest difference between replacing the words "fat girls" with "black girls"... is that one is a choice, and then other is not. That and there's definitely a cut off where fat is just completely unacceptable.

BringOnTheMen
05-20-2011, 08:16 PM
I won't touch that "well kept hair (no afro)" comment, although that's pretty effing offensive ...

But, seriously, have you never heard of clubs having a black girl quota? Not hiring too many black chicks in fear of losing customers because guys just aren't attracted to them? Shall I post reviews? Shall I link to the dozens of SW threads on the issue? Trust me, it happens..

And I'm the stupid troll? ::) Allllllllrighty then. *raises both hands, turns on heel and leaves thread, shaking head*

[/END THREAD JACK] Back to your regularly scheduled programming, ladies...

I'm really sorry that you were offended. I didn't mean that an afro = unkept hair and no afro = well kept hair. But in the upscale clubs in my area, an afro would look extremely out of place. In the 80s, it would be fine, because everyone was into big hair then. But now, sleek is in style.

I really don't have to deal with a black quota issue because 1) I am white, 2) the biggest non-white ethnic group here is Asian and no clubs institute an Asian quota, 3) managers will always be keeping a small "quota" in the back of their mind that influences their hiring but here at least, it will not be the deciding factor. But not with race, with everything. Like my club is kind of short on blondes now, so my manager might give a new blonde a little more of a chance than he would if she was brunette. I am really sorry that you have experienced a racial quota, but it is not interchangeable with being fat. You can change your weight, you can change your hair, you can make sure you have the best skin you can have, but you cannot change your weight. I highly doubt that dancers that look like Beyonce turn away any but the absolute most racist scumbag customers.

Addison
05-20-2011, 08:37 PM
I'm really sorry that you were offended. I didn't mean that an afro = unkept hair and no afro = well kept hair. But in the upscale clubs in my area, an afro would look extremely out of place. In the 80s, it would be fine, because everyone was into big hair then. But now, sleek is in style.

I really don't have to deal with a black quota issue because 1) I am white, 2) the biggest non-white ethnic group here is Asian and no clubs institute an Asian quota, 3) managers will always be keeping a small "quota" in the back of their mind that influences their hiring but here at least, it will not be the deciding factor. But not with race, with everything. Like my club is kind of short on blondes now, so my manager might give a new blonde a little more of a chance than he would if she was brunette. I am really sorry that you have experienced a racial quota, but it is not interchangeable with being fat. You can change your weight, you can change your hair, you can make sure you have the best skin you can have, but you cannot change your weight. I highly doubt that dancers that look like Beyonce turn away any but the absolute most racist scumbag customers.

I understand the hair comment, given your elaboration. So no offense taken there.

But you're right, they're not interchangeable. You can change your weight, but you can't change your race. That's the good thing about being fat. lol If the manager isn't hiring fat chicks, you can lose weight, go back and audition again and the manager might hire you. However, you can't un-blacken. lol (Or maybe you can - shout out to Lil Kim) If the manager isn't hiring black chicks, you're just SOL.

That said, dancers that look like Beyonce may not turn away a lot of customers, but if Beyonce comes in one night and Halle Berry is already on the floor, Beyonce just might have to Single Ladies her ass back home or to another club. Unfortunate, yes.. but that's just the way it is. :'(

That's a completely different thread, though. Sorry for the hi-jack.


eta: BigBoobs6969 or whatever- NEWSFLASH!! I'm BLACK.If you could please stop calling me racist, a KKK/slave owner granddaughter, etc etc in other threads, that'd be great.

B-T-Dub, that was MY thread you linked to appreciating thick & curvy girls... I'm just sayin'.

Kellydancer
05-20-2011, 10:03 PM
Regarding black girls (since I see the topic has changed) I've worked with two kinds: the hot ones and the ghetto looking ones. The hot ones got many customers and while yes it was still hard for them it was easier than the ghetto looking black girls. These girls tended to be heavier, homelier and often spoke poor English and I cringed when managers hired them. Just so some people don't think I am racist, I also cringed when managers hired the white ghetto girls too. There is racism in most clubs, which is unfortunate.

Gettig back to the thread I worked at a club that went from somewhat selective to anyone can dance. The one manager who hired me was picky on what he wanted and he wanted at least 7's (his words). His co manager was for the house fees and hired anyone who walked in the door. What ended up happening was the hotter girls started leaving. I stayed for awhile because I still had several regulars and was too lazy to leave yet. Anyway one night it ended up being me and about 4 of the fatties (who were also ugly on top of it). This group of guys come in and one says to another "look at these fat slobs". The one guy then points to me on stage saying "but she's hot" to which his friend said "yes but she's on stage and I want a dance now". They tipped me then left. On the way to leaving one of the fatties rolls her stomach at them and asks if they want to see more. They then left and once they did I told the manager to which he replied "I don't care if they leave, I will raise house fees". I ended up leaving. The club later got a reputation for fatties who did extras and was closed anyway but I was gone by then.

luxi_kitty
05-21-2011, 12:20 AM
wow wtf?? haha
this thread is all over the fuckin place!! haha

luxi_kitty
05-21-2011, 12:27 AM
wanted to post pics of examples on "fat" women dancing and banking at my local strip club...i was on the Magic City website and saw pics of events that happen every week..
just to show u some examples of the standards we have here in the hip hop clubs in Atl..meat on bones IS embraced in the hip-hop clubs no matter what race :umbrella:

its raining!!
http://www.magiccitypics.com/images/igallery/resized/5001-5100/_DSC5269-5081-500-400-100-wm-center_middle-100-watermarkpng.JPG
[IMG]http://www.magiccitypics.com/images/igallery/resized/5101-5200/_DSC6310-5182-500-400-100-wm-center_middle-100-watermarkpng.JPGhttp://www.magiccitypics.com/images/igallery/resized/5101-5200/_DSC6334-5184-500-400-100-wm-center_middle-100-watermarkpng.JPGhttp://www.magiccitypics.com/images/igallery/resized/5101-5200/_DSC6113-5168-500-400-100-wm-center_middle-100-watermarkpng.JPG

Vyanka
05-21-2011, 12:41 AM
The girl in the second pic is sexy. ^

Anyway, we're talking about shamus here. Double chins, hanging belly, rolls/skin flaps, horrid cellulite and stretch marks. We can all agree none wants to see that at any type of club.

BTW, this thread needs to die already.

tempest666
05-21-2011, 12:50 AM
oh god... I HATE it when heavy girls use Marilyn Monroe as an example of a "thick" women. Dude, her measurements, as recorded by her dressmaker, were 36-23-37. She was 5'5" and weighed 117 lbs before she died. That's comparable to about a size 2-4 today. She may have been a size 12 by size standards fifty years ago, but the explosion of fat women in the US has led to vanity sizing, so clothes sizes are completely different today.

I would not call Monroe "thick."


Hell no she was pretty tiny right before she died. The ONLY time she got a little chubby was around 1959-60 cuz the other day we were watching "Let's make love" and "Some like it Hot" and babe was like "Damn, she's a little bit of a porker there".

As for Anna Nicole, she slimmed down too. ::)
So maybe they did have chubby moments, but they eventually slimmed down.

tempest666
05-21-2011, 12:57 AM
I lost 4 llbs yay! :D