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misselise07
02-16-2011, 12:48 PM
That is what I am thinking too. I did not close my profile on camwealth yet....but just got that message while I was out which was odd.

roast
02-16-2011, 12:49 PM
He just made his profile on yahoo today, exactly 4 hours ago:

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GOOAHKMXJQHZLGW2REOL6PF5YM

Its up to your discretion, but I tend to veer towards that if someone needs to make a separate ID from their usual one to tell you insider info - it probably is not verifiable. Not to say what he is saying is undoubtedly right/wrong, but its suspect

misselise07
02-16-2011, 12:54 PM
I figured it was BS just wondering if anyone else got the message.

bun
02-16-2011, 01:27 PM
It's confirmed that they were in an open directory, so that message is correct

Confirmed bt CW who could see the links, camwealth that said "secured the information" as though the links were from the camwealth site and Charni who said "even if it was password protected" up in her post.

Juliette25
02-16-2011, 01:32 PM
So what it is that they say they need? Proof that someone downloaded images from the link? Isn't it enough that the person was trying to use the information against the models to blackmail them?

Dancing Days
02-16-2011, 01:55 PM
Seems like they're trying to keep the heat off of themselves and back on to the hacker that doesn't exist. Since the directory was open for everyone to see, there is no hacker and only CamWealth is to blame. Sounds to me like this is a RED HERRING.

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 02:17 PM
then as a business owner you should be more open that you cant control things all the time. I'm sure they are doing everything they can to make sure these things dont happen if you serve one bad ice cream cone should all your customers never come back lol sorry thats kinda funny but you get my point..


It is my opinion, from this as well as past dealings, that you are the most contrary senseless person on this forum. Your comparison is shit.

If she owned an Ice Cream shop and left a box of her cistomers credit card receipts out for weeks and weeks in the front of her store where ANYONE could access them, then yes, I think she should be sued and shut down and I believe everyone who ever ran a business would agree. They left the secret identities of their models, their life blood...in an open fucking directory for ANYONE to find.

If you cause a mortal breach to your customers that put them in danger, then you should pay the consequences. PERIOD.

B

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 02:20 PM
ps. Thats NOT the link, Bun and Bambalina

And if it is so PERFECTLY fixed and wonderful now, why do you not POST the link you found IDs at?? What are YOU hiding? Did you have to "Hack" to get there, or was it an open directory YOU found IDs at...tell us the fucking truth, because thusfar you seem to be hiding shit too!

B

missginger
02-16-2011, 02:22 PM
Ummmm anyone get this message?

I'm sending you this since CamWealth is irresponsible and won't tell you any information. As you probably know, the site you work for CamWealth left your ID and the other models- in an open directory. If you didn't understand that let me give you an image. We have a walmart, we have 30 empolyees (cam models), a boss (Chris), and there is a desk outside the store, that has your and the others IDs on it. Anyone can see them, and take them. That is what happened with the site. If you care anything about this situation I would advise you to quit ASAP and get legal consultation. If you don't care that in the future your identity may be stolen and you linked with illegal activites, then ignore this message. :D friendly neighborhood watchman. http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t

The yahoo name it came from is himalayaplaya10


i got that message a few hours ago

kittykrane
02-16-2011, 02:29 PM
ID sue a bigger company out of malice because i feel like they steal from us daily...
:O



http://theurbandaily.com/files/2011/01/Baby-worship-lawd.gif



That is the funniest thing I have seen in a while.

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 02:31 PM
Deep...

catgirl
02-16-2011, 02:33 PM
has anyone gotten their account on camwealth closed, or tried??

i want to, but they owe me money and the minimum payout is 100$

well, regardless, i want to leave the site.
i'd just like to get paid first..

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 02:34 PM
And if it is so PERFECTLY fixed and wonderful now, why do you not POST the link you found IDs at?? What are YOU hiding? Did you have to "Hack" to get there, or was it an open directory YOU found IDs at...tell us the fucking truth, because thusfar you seem to be hiding shit too!

B

Becuase I dont HAVE to post the link, for one bambalina , you dont work there, so fuck off okay?

I dont believe I owe YOU anything....

I didnt have to hack anything.

I dont have shit to hide, but I am a grown ass woman that doesnt have to give you an explanation worth two shits,

in fact i didnt even owe anybody this warning, shit I could have kept it to myself, so be fucking grateful, or do the dective work your fucking self


damn.::)

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 02:35 PM
3 SITES HAVE BEEN ALLEGEDLY HACKED THIS WEEk;

cw , va , icc


Absolutely NO proof ANY other site was hacked. ONLY CW.

It is really interesting how these other sites got dragged into this and now have to pay a price when there is absolutely NO proof anyone went anywhere near them.

Of course they aren't going to be forthcoming about being hacked, IF THEY WEREN'T HACKED...duh?

One shred of REAL proof that ANY other site is involved?

You correctly kept yourself from a slander lawsuit by saying allegedly. So long as you have the cajones to back up who ALLEGED the third one was hacked. We already see you are using the BAD GUY to allege that #2 was hacked....



DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT ON THE OTHER SITES THEY DIDNT GET THe same personal details?


I don't think ANY OTHER SITE WAS HACKED. I don't think CW was "Hacked" either. I think they stupidly and with albsolute diesregard for their modelsw safety, left the IDs in an ABSOLUTELY unsecure directory. Prove me wrong. Or at LEAST make a case that that is not THE MOST LIKELY scenario.



camgirlspot, <<< the guy told a model thats where he found her.... , camgirlspot denies they have anything wrong on thier end, AFTER all this has been brought to the light, now all of a sudden they are looking for models....


Seriously? The Guy....the harasser guy...the BAD guy...the blackmail guy...the lying, trouble making, rotten, scamming, evil motherfucker GUY...SAID so....THAT is your proof???

And when Camgirlspot says, "Our secure directory is still secure!" and you have NO OTHER PROOF. You choose to believe "The Guy"?

Seriously?



I might not be saying anything or proving anything, but the hacker is on the loose, and i have a feeling it wont stop here.

No hacker is on the loose, no law was broken copying things from an open directory...so the ONLY thing you can get this person for is harassment. Possibly Blackmail if that gets proven. But one thing for sure, this guy/gal, as well as you, and maybe many many others, got into that directory and had the power to copy all those IDs to their hard-drive within minutes. And that was COMPLETE fucking negligence on the part of CW.

B

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 02:37 PM
on camwealth site it clearly says they are working on this case.

I want a fucking criminal case #, so the women who were harassed can give a statement. Where the fuck is THAT?

No crime was commited in copying stuff from an OPEN directory and you KNOW it.

B

Juliette25
02-16-2011, 02:37 PM
This shit is just fucking ridiculous.

CamWhore I'm not quite understanding why you're not upset by this anymore. Especially since they have sent out a message basically saying what you told them/showed them didn't mean shit.

I'm certainly not going to let this "fly", and I encourage other ladies who have been affected by this (i.e. you have given your ID to CamWealth) not to either. It's bullshit.

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 02:38 PM
Dont you dare address me like I owe you shit...

your just fustrated because im not interested in suing right now.

Thats not my problem, so cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it, im not your damn child..

talk to whoever else you want to like that on your free time, but im a verifiable bitch and I dont play that shit.

xoxo.

Juliette25
02-16-2011, 02:38 PM
has anyone gotten their account on camwealth closed, or tried??

i want to, but they owe me money and the minimum payout is 100$

well, regardless, i want to leave the site.
i'd just like to get paid first..

You can request a payout if it's lower than $100. I did so and it's only a $5 fee. I then emailed support and they closed my account. they said that I would receive my money as requested.

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 02:38 PM
and im talking to b.

Dancing Days
02-16-2011, 02:42 PM
GIRLS: I found a lawyer that would LOOOOOOVE to take this case! PM me ASAP if you want to be added to this case! Doesn't matter what state you're in.

The lawyer said that this is DEFINITELY a BIG problem and she'd love to help us out!

She's an adult ent lawyer like Michael (PornLaw) and actually knows him. As soon as I said that I've been talking to another adult entertainment lawyer, she asked "Would it happen to be Michael Fattorosi?" and I was like YESSSS!!!

But seriously, I'd like to get as many girls as possible in on this and we are ready to get this ball rolling!!! PM ME!!!

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 02:42 PM
Bamballina you just talk too much, you need to try to read the entire thread again.

Icandycams was hackd take a peak, and I bet your computer will shut down.

The email above was sent by the same person who knew where the directory was, and its the same person that said they found another model on Camgirlspot.


and if i had anything to do with it, do you think I would tell yall? please, take this bullshit somewhere else, and school these girls how to sue since your so big on it... BALLSY

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 02:44 PM
Get off my ass.... cause i promise I will never protect you girls again NEVER.

Do not turn this shit on me, how ungrateful.

and you girls dont have a case becuase you girls only have hearsay, im the only one with proof that i know of in this thread....


now dont try and run to my PM box, cause i have better shit to do ,

Charnixxx
02-16-2011, 02:48 PM
lmfao! wow u chicks r crazy
im on camwealth and im not sueing
i never made $$$ on there b/c i already have a main indy site.
plus thats kinda stupid, obviously it was an honest mistake
whether he was hacked or not who cares.
I have other shit to worry abt than suing an INDY site for someone seeing my ID
WOW what a shocker! a fucking ID card lol
I see if this was a major cam site we're talking abt ..
but we're not ..... so who cares? I don't.
This is America, its way worse shit ppl have to worry abt than a few ppl seeing my ID from 2 yrs ago.....

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 02:49 PM
i got that message a few hours ago

Seems like a vigilante who is out for justice. Awesome! I iwhs I could say it was me...seriously. It is exactly what needs mto go out to every member of CW, so they realize the truth.

In fact, if anyone wants to do something TRULY useful...Go on Yahoo and contact EVERY model on CW and let them know what really happened. THAT would actually make this whole thing pop and get the people who have been harassed to come out of the woodwork.

Send em to THIS thread with a link, or even to CGU where this can have a Sticky till it's all solved.

B

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 02:51 PM
I want a fucking criminal case #, so the women who were harassed can give a statement. Where the fuck is THAT?

No crime was commited in copying stuff from an OPEN directory and you KNOW it.

B

well your not owed one there, your not even a cammodel, miss me with your demands;)

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 02:53 PM
Bambalina, why dont you email the person who sent the message Go Go Gadget?

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 02:58 PM
Get off my ass.... cause i promise I will never protect you girls again NEVER.

Do not turn this shit on me, how ungrateful.

and you girls dont have a case becuase you girls only have hearsay, im the only one with proof that i know of in this thread....


now dont try and run to my PM box, cause i have better shit to do ,

You're being fucked about this...don't know why...you behavior is REALLY sketchy...don't know why...

I never said you DID anything wrong...although being the one to break the story would be a brilliant way to keep suspicion off yourself...and you ARE a crafty bitch...but I never went there...I am saying that you are protecting this site for some reason, whether financial, or personal...

You are protecting a site that had EXTREME Negligence and left you camgirl comrades IDs out in the open. WHY?

Why would you call this a LITTLE mistake? WHY?

You don't owe me shit...but if you want to be credible in the world, you gotta back up your actions....

This was a terrible mistake that can have terrible terrible consequences, so why are you now defending it as just a little blip of nothing??? WHY???

That's all...enquiring minds want to know...

B

Edit: And, they have read this thread, know you proved the IDs were used and stolen, and yet they called you a fucking liar right out on their site saying there is NOTHING to show these IDs were taken...And you aren't exploding...WHY?!?! That is so NOT like you....

Wanna disclose for us what percentage of your income comes from that site??? Didn't think so...

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 02:59 PM
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

so what if whoever doesnt like my attitude about the situation. Go talk about it amongst yourselves in pm's for all i care... dont address me.

I answered all i could, but im not under investigation.

now if youd kindly take your Promoter self out of a cammodel thread, Id be proud of you. Your voice is soooooo big on a topic that doenst even directly affect you..

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 03:00 PM
im not looking to be credible, i dont run a gossip blog...


so do what your gonna do or shut up !

xoxo

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 03:03 PM
lmfao! wow u chicks r crazy
im on camwealth and im not sueing
i never made $$$ on there b/c i already have a main indy site.
plus thats kinda stupid, obviously it was an honest mistake
whether he was hacked or not who cares.
I have other shit to worry abt than suing an INDY site for someone seeing my ID
WOW what a shocker! a fucking ID card lol
I see if this was a major cam site we're talking abt ..
but we're not ..... so who cares? I don't.
This is America, its way worse shit ppl have to worry abt than a few ppl seeing my ID from 2 yrs ago.....

Are you the owners woman or something? This is like a fucking letter written for propaganda...

Those IDs can be used for a lot of things....

Read my Next Post.

B

Dancing Days
02-16-2011, 03:13 PM
CamWhore, why did you delete the original post? I understand not wanting to sue them yourself, but now you're just fucking the rest of us.

I think you're really cool and I consider you one of my few good camgirl friends and I don't want you to take anything I'm saying as a personal attack against you.

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 03:15 PM
Ok, for those who think this isn't serious, and who are also on MFC or Stream...ponder this...

If they have your ID, they can sign up for an MFC or Stream name, use your ID...send a letter to MFC/Stream requesting they move your account over to this one, which has my verified IDs on it, because I am being harassed....then switch payments over to something they could grab....

If they have your ID they could sign up for TONS of camsites, Tube Sites, whatever...and then completely screw up your name....

If they have your ID they can sign you up for stuff....Post the IDs publically...with you profile pics which I assume are sexy....linking the real you to the adult entertainment you for the whole world....they can get in trouble and if their apartment or computer is searched, your ID is found, and since NO criminal investigation is ever launched, the cops can involve you...this is in two minutes off the top of my head...

And someone DOES have your IDs...from CamWhore, we KNOW this...CW allowed it, still denies they were taken, calling camwhore a liar...and no criminal investigation is happening with a case number for you to say your ID was among those compromised....there is a HUGE problem here...don;t just let it go away.

B

nikkidarling
02-16-2011, 03:17 PM
This situation is very unfortunate, however, if you're really serious about pursuing a case shouldn't this discussion be taken to PM land? You are all hashing out all the details on a very public message board.

#justsayin

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 03:22 PM
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.

so what if whoever doesnt like my attitude about the situation. Go talk about it amongst yourselves in pm's for all i care... dont address me.

I answered all i could, but im not under investigation.

now if youd kindly take your Promoter self out of a cammodel thread, Id be proud of you. Your voice is soooooo big on a topic that doenst even directly affect you..

The fuck it doesn't! I am working to build a camsite, and this hurts every owner or potential owner of a camsite, and especially those who believe in Indy, and those who work with camgirls, and those who feel it needs to be handled fairly....I have a lot to lose if all trust in Indy sites is lost because one of them gets away with dropping all the IDs...This is fucking GREAT for MFC and Stream...because now women are scared of Indy, and you make it worse by perpetuating bullshit that other sites are involved when they clearly aren't.

If ICC was hacked to give a virus, that has NOTHING to do with stealing hundreds of IDs...I had a website for a campground that I worked on hacked to give a virus, and no INFORMATION on the site was compromised, it just injected a stupid script that ran when people came to the site..I fixed it within 36 hours. I would hope ICC did the same, and that you're reporting past bullshit here...which is why others have reported going there and getting NO virus.

So when did you decide to become the enemy of the Indy site?

B

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 03:28 PM
This situation is very unfortunate, however, if you're really serious about pursuing a case shouldn't this discussion be taken to PM land? You are all hashing out all the details on a very public message board.

#justsayin

Within a few days, I assume the lawyers will put a stop to the posts in this thread. By telling their clients to be done. For now, this will still gather women are affected and may want in on the class action.

B

PS. News on CGU...will have a sticky topic for those who want to explain this and bring in new people.

catgirl
02-16-2011, 03:30 PM
i think someone was paid to shut their mouth..

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 03:42 PM
What was I paid?

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 03:46 PM
I deleted the first post, because i wanna know how much shit yall really know without me telling yall.

I am not getting paid by anyone, but the more shit yall talk the more shit gets deleted. simple..., and now im being a bitch,


dont be a dummy ,

Bye Now :)

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 03:47 PM
Wanna disclose for us what percentage of your income comes from that site??? Didn't think so...


25% .

Now what did you prove?;)

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 03:49 PM
stop acting like groupies....LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

yall are so heated and pissed off, and im not even refreshing this shit ever five minute having a panic attack...LOL


im laughing AT YOU. who cares how ya feel about me now, I can leave and never come back and wont think twice about it. I dont know none of you.


HAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAHAHAH

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 03:53 PM
OH and bambalina , im ignoring you, if your asking questions for other girls tell there punk asses to stand up for them selves, fuck a "thanks" cause aint nobody hear got no money for a lawyer anyway.

Now that yall pissed me off, you get nothing from me , simple. DOnt pretend like you know me by trying to asses my character, its not working.

All I do is independently contract and affiliate for camwealth...


But because i will say what i want and do as I wish, you got a damn problem?

so anyway its Feb 16th, how far have you come in building a case,

or where you to busy writing me love notes in this thread?

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 04:18 PM
OH and bambalina , im ignoring you, if your asking questions for other girls tell there punk asses to stand up for them selves, fuck a "thanks" cause aint nobody hear got no money for a lawyer anyway.

Now that yall pissed me off, you get nothing from me , simple. DOnt pretend like you know me by trying to asses my character, its not working.

All I do is independently contract and affiliate for camwealth...


But because i will say what i want and do as I wish, you got a damn problem?

so anyway its Feb 16th, how far have you come in building a case,

or where you to busy writing me love notes in this thread?


I apologize. This has gotten personal and you and I have been through way too much for this to be a big ugly thing. So, if I hurt your feelings or made you feel like I punked you, I am sorry.

I disagree with you. I think these girls have a right to sue, and I think they have a right to see this through and force this company to take action and even to put this company out of business.

You obviously disagree. I'd love to know why, REALLY why, if you're willing to tell us. If not, that's ok too.

I'm mostly SO sorry that you aren't on the side of the camgirl in all this, because we could really use your help. I believe that with you driving this thing it would really get somewhere, and not because of the INFO you have, but because everyone knows you and you could get the word out and make sure this doesn't go down like this. In that area, I have MAD respect for you. So I guess that is why I jumped in your face when it felt to me like you turned on your camgirl comrades.

But yer right, you don't owe none of us anything....Sorry for hoping...Sorry if I did it wrong...Hope we can still together on the important stuff, even if this one we gotta be on opposite sides of the fence.

B

catgirl
02-16-2011, 04:19 PM
sorry.. i was mad.. this is dumb,
sorry if i offended anyone or upset anyone
especially ppg, sorry<3

CamWhore
02-16-2011, 04:27 PM
you dont have to like me, no skin off my back love. more power to you.

you have no idea whats on my mind, so dont judge me.

Also I dont give advice, I just put my input, I dont ask you personally to follow me all over the web...

566/835 must mean something... to bad it didnt work out for you, but dont blame me for poor execution.

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 04:43 PM
Hey, lets stop the personal stuff. Lets ALL back the fuck off, and remember that this is about a site that dumped personal IDs. It isn;t about what CamWhore thinks, or Bambalina or anyone else...it is about getting to the bottom of this and finding the truth, and getting justice. And the definition of JUSTICE for me in this case is that the Camgirl makes her mark and makes sure the law is there to respect us and make sure we never have our IDs dumped again.

Can you get behind that? If so, then lets stop the personal shit and make sure that happens. Seriously, Suing is NOT always about the money, it is about changing things.

Please, can we all just hit reset and get back to the real discussion? Please?

B

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 04:45 PM
Oh, and for those who wonder how you go about finding open directories...theres a ton of articles on Google (Google really is YOUR friend)...



That's one article...REAL basic, but should give you an idea...and also help you find cool songs and stuff!

B

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 05:12 PM
Oh, and 3 things...

1. The IDs should never have been stored online at all, and should immediately be either sent to the 2257 company, or stored away. However;
2. If you're going to for some idiotic reason store them online, then they should be a folder that is named something incredibly tough to guess, which is password protected, and the files should be encrypted, as well as there being directory protections in .htaccess file. HOWEVER;
3 If you are boneheaded enough not to take those precautions, the first month of web design school or the first few chapters of web design books, teach about how to protect yourself from what is in the post above by using your .htaccess file to limit directory listings.



That will help all you camgirls with websites.

My point here though, is that this site didn't just fail in a small way. They completely ignored your safety and used no security at ALL to protect their most precious files. Which means they are either incredible douches who don't care about you at all, or incredibly inept and un-deserving of your trust because they are so seriously un-prepared for being webmasters. Either way, that is why I am so involved. Because camgirls need to KNOW that the websites out there are worthy of their trust. Period. So this one MUST be made to stand up and face the medicine.

B

Dancing Days
02-16-2011, 05:19 PM
Bambalina, this WILL be pursued. Have no doubts about that.

bun
02-16-2011, 05:43 PM
Can't we all just get along? :(

Bambalina
02-16-2011, 05:57 PM
I'm tryin darlin!