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BritishBecky
03-02-2011, 01:38 AM
nevermind - got there after 30 mins of searching :( damn bad news :(

Bambalina
03-02-2011, 12:02 PM
And to assure you that in no way, shape, or form am I or Camgirl storing ANYONE'S personal information. We had access to links. Which were also accessible by the entire world up until today.

A summary of my findings, as well as the list of sites, has been posted to Model's only private area on CGN.

CoolBreeze - CGN Moderator

While you're there ladies, look at how it is discussed that Coolbreeze if sorting the information he got from those directories. Cool how does that all ONLINE and never downloaded it. I have a few e-mails from him I will post from that shows he DID have this information and is LYING that he only had links.

Whatever, if it's all closed...so be it...

B

Friendly
03-02-2011, 12:17 PM
- Please post this to the Model's Private Area -

A Summary of my findings - Open Directory Report

I investigated a total of 129 cam and studio websites to see which, if any, had open public dirctories.

Of the 129 sites I researched, 8 were found to have open directories with public permissions to allow directory browsing.

Of the 8 sites that had open public directories, 2 of them had public directories which contained personally identifying performer or customer information including drivers licenses, social security cards, passports and contracts.

All 8 sites have been contacted about the open public folders, and the FBI has been contacted about those which I found to contain personally identifying information.



Here is the breakdown...

Site #1 - Scoreslive.com: This site had 8 directories with public permissions. I documented 948 links to personally identifying information out of nearly 300,000 files, including drivers licenses, social security cards, passports and contracts. Each was listed 4 times, 1 time each in 4 separate directories. (.0031% of the nearly 300,000 files was personally identifying) It is likely there was more that I missed, simply because of the enormous number of files I had to deal with. The site has fixed the issue, and the directories are no longer public.

Site #2 - Spunkycams.com: This site had 2 main directories with public permissions, and close to 100 sub directories under them with public permissions. I documented only 4 links to personally identifying information, though it is possible that I missed more. The site has fixed the issue, and the directories are no longer public.

Site #3 - Alexialive.com: This site had one main directory with public permissions, as well as one directory associated with each performer that also had public permissions. As far as I could tell, none contained personally identifying information. The site appears to be down/offline. I do not know if the issue has been addressed.

Site #4 - Cam4.com: This site had one main directory with public permissions, and more than 500 subdirectories under it with public permissions. As far as I could tell, none contained personally identifying information but it would have taken literally months to sort through them all, so it's possible there was personal information there , but that I missed it. The site has fixed the issue, and the directories are no longer public.

Site #5 - Camsturbate.com: This site had 11 main directories with public permissions, as well as about 100 subdirectories under them with public permissions. As far as I could tell, none contained personally identifying information. The site has not yet fixed the issue.

Site #6 - Chatfg.com: This site had 2 directories with public permissions. Neither contained personally identifying information and I have had several communications with the owner/admin who took the time to verify this himself and also to change the permissions on those directories. It was clear that he takes the issue of security very seriously, and was quick to respond and quick to explain those directories contained nothing but verified public information, but chose to closed them off just the same. The issue has been fixed, and the directories are no longer public.

Site #7 - Partychat.tv: This site had 1 directory with public permissions. As far as I could tell, it contained no personally identifying information. The site has not yet fixed the issue.

Site #8 - Girlsroom.nu: This site had 4 directories with public permissions. As far as I could tell, they contained no personally identifying information. The site has not yet fixed the issue.



I'd like to also clarify some things, because I know that many of you are also following the privacy2 thread at stripperweb. Neither I, nor camgirl are in any way, shape, or form storing ANYONE'S personally identifying information. Bambalina sort of hijacked that thread as if she was doing the investigation and has provided you with MISINFORMATION. She was not involved in my work, was not privy to any extra information about what I was doing, and provided absolutely ZERO help at all. Yet I felt accussed of hacking, breaking the law, distributing performer information, and being on a power trip. I spent more than 100 hours of my own time working on this to investigate, and fully document the sites that had issues. Searching through thousands and thousands of files in the public directories of each site to confirm or deny they contained personal information, and then documenting the links to such information when I found it. So that the sites could be contacted, and could address the issues in the most expedient way possible. Because I said I would. It's because of her, and because of some things that were said to me via PM by PornLaw that I contacted the FBI myself. Because of what I perceived to be veiled threats. I've sacrificed a lot of time, and my own personal identity, trying to make sure YOUR personal information was not further exposed. I don't expect payment, or your thanks, but I also don't expect the work I've done to be twisted into something that it was not. The PRIMARY issue has been addressed, which was your security. And the sites who were hosting your personal information out in the open have closed off the security issues. If you are a performer on either of those sites, I guess it's up to you whether or not you choose to stay with them.

As for the girls who were talking about a lawsuit, and those who's information may have been exposed, I will see if the FBI is willing to provide a contact which you may call. That is really out of my hands however, and the FBI have been slow react, but I will see what I can do.

Regards,

CoolBreeze

Bambalina
03-02-2011, 12:35 PM
Thanks for this!

Sorry, I never claimed to be part of your fucked up half assed investigation, nor did I claim to be "helping you". I also didn't accuse you of hacking, or breaking the law...I questioned whether you were keeping within the law by holding onto the information after you had SEEN an ID, and I definitely accuse you of distributing performer information, when you gave the locations of Private privileged information to a person called Camgirl, who admitted to seeing 300 IDs and contracts and so on...YOU distributed this info to her...She admitted it...

This last post proves the power trip, since you handled it poorly and since I was BANNED for defending a friend....

I am not allowed to see it, because I was banned from the model area because I posted the negative and rude things they were saying about Pornlaw, who CAN'T get on their forum to defend himself.

So, it's funny that AFTER I am banned they post rude and attacking stuff about me, who cannot read it or defend myself...REALLY ethical people who have you IDs right now on their hard drives. When they claim not to...believe them! They are so truthful and honest.

Thanks friendly...good to know you're on their model section watching our backs!

B

PS. The holes are closed...it's all done...now if they come back and attack me, it is breaking the rules here of no personal attacks. As far as I am concerned this issue and thread are closed. Let's see how well they can keep that true.

CoolBreeze
03-02-2011, 01:41 PM
Thanks for this!

Sorry, I never claimed to be part of your fucked up half assed investigation, nor did I claim to be "helping you". I also didn't accuse you of hacking, or breaking the law...I questioned whether you were keeping within the law by holding onto the information after you had SEEN an ID, and I definitely accuse you of distributing performer information, when you gave the locations of Private privileged information to a person called Camgirl, who admitted to seeing 300 IDs and contracts and so on...YOU distributed this info to her...She admitted it...

This last post proves the power trip, since you handled it poorly and since I was BANNED for defending a friend....

I am not allowed to see it, because I was banned from the model area because I posted the negative and rude things they were saying about Pornlaw, who CAN'T get on their forum to defend himself.

So, it's funny that AFTER I am banned they post rude and attacking stuff about me, who cannot read it or defend myself...REALLY ethical people who have you IDs right now on their hard drives. When they claim not to...believe them! They are so truthful and honest.

Thanks friendly...good to know you're on their model section watching our backs!

B

PS. The holes are closed...it's all done...now if they come back and attack me, it is breaking the rules here of no personal attacks. As far as I am concerned this issue and thread are closed. Let's see how well they can keep that true.

That information was PUBLIC Bambalina. And that's what the issue was in the first place. That some sites were hosting performer and customer personally identifying information PUBLICLY. For the ENTIRE WORLD to see without restriction. And when I started, I had the intention of downloading, sorting and taking screenshots of that information from each site, to provide "proof" to those who were working on a legal case. But I dumped that information and plan when the conversation here turned towards the legality my even having such information on my hard drive in the first place, or passing that information to anyone but the authorities. So I documented the links. ALL of them. And I contacted the FBI. And yeah, it took that long.

I handled this poorly? If there was someone else to do a better job, or to do ANYTHING AT ALL, I didn't see them doing it. I only saw you. Complaining about how poor of a job I was doing, and that I was taking too long, and that I should be doing this, or that I should be doing that, and that "King CoolBreeze and Queen Camgirl" aren't being nice to meeeee. If I had not spent the time I did, ALL that information would STILL be sitting out there on the PUBLIC World Wide Web. Right now. So I'll put it to you again. If you could have done a better job, or knew someone who could, why didn't you do it? My "fucked up half assed investigation" is THE REASON performers are no longer exposed on those sites.

You also were not "banned" from CGN. You were demoted to member, and not by me. Because you're a promoter, and apparently because of some of the things you were saying in the model to model private area. Which, by the way, I don't have access to.

I don't know what set you off on this issue. And I agree with so much of what you're trying to do in your other posts here on SW. But you've got a lot of nerve being so critical when you yourself did nothing at all to address the problem except for bitch.

CoolBreeze - CGN Moderator

Bambalina
03-02-2011, 03:54 PM
Ok, firstly, it is disingenuous to say it was PUBLIC, because while it WAS in a publically available directory, you guys were telling everyone not to talk about it or whatever...WHY? Because it WAS private information that didn;t belong in ANYONE's hands. Yet YOU gave the locations and allowed Camgirl to see it and access it. How the hell do I know if she is trustworthy? Whether SHE downloaded it? If she has nefarious aims? I have no clue about her motives! But I don't feel comfortable that your damn investigation involved telling at LEAST one other person the actual locations.

Why didn't I do it? Because you were already riding up on a white horse to save all of us frail damsels...One of my best friends in the world is a VERY well known hacker who is now a security consultant...So, could have gotten involved, but by the time you showed yourself for a TERRIBLE security consultant by giving a person un-known to MOST of the affected women the LOCATION of the extremely sensitive data, it was bit late to begin an investigation, eh?

Lastly, I still have no real problems with you. In fact I said thank you to you every step of the way. I believe you were trying to help. I believe you are a nice guy. I believe you wanted to do it right. I believe you made mistakes and don't take criticism at all well. I find Camgirl to be pretty horrid. She lied about me, talked badly about Pornlaw and myself, both when we could not defend ourselves because we cannot be on. That sort of behavior bothers me. The fact that she lied about things I had said, bothered me. But overall, I have said very little BAD about you, other than that I believe you were not nearly as forthcoming and quick with news as needed to be, and you ignored what I said (and have now proved) about this having a few days at most before it becomes a matter of Google record. I think you're ok, and I'm really sorry this all came down, because I think we could have been friends. Probably even still could, because I don't take online stuff all that seriously...I feel seriously misunderstood by you throughout this whole thing, so I can see where you might feel the same...

As far as I am concerned it is pretty much done...

As far as CGN, I verified my MODEL status three times over to UL, and was never removed for anything to do with that. I was removed SPECIFICALLY for re-posting ONE message from the Model area, that was seriously ATTACKING a good friend and calling his character into question in a place that was inaccessible to him so he could NOT defend himself. I would love to be on the board, but not so much that I will compromise my principles and abandon a friend.

B

CoolBreeze
03-02-2011, 11:32 PM
I take offense at the "white knight" bit. Don't attempt to put me in that box because I don't fit and won't stay there. I understand your perspective though, particularly because I'm a man and because I'm a moderator on a forum where the majority of the public comments are made by men who perhaps do fit that pair of shoes. Though if you'd taken the time to read more of my comments there than those related to this issue, you'd perhaps have a more clear picture of who I am and what the fuck I'm doing there. And saying it was "too late" to do something yourself because "by the time I had shown myself to be a terrible security consultant, bla bla bla" is a cop-out. And it's weak.

As for Camgirl, she's not only a model moderator at CGN, she's one of the forum chairs. And while I don't see anywhere that she lied about you or things you said, I do tend to think that there has been more than a little misunderstanding between you and others. Add to that inherently confrontational temperaments and name calling and here we are.

But I'll agree too, that as far as I'm concerned it's pretty much done. And the issue has been addressed.

CoolBreeze - CGN Moderator

bluexxxtasy
03-03-2011, 12:04 AM
um...im a bit lost..

eroteea
03-03-2011, 07:06 AM
Bambalina, you could have defending your friend in there, no need to post in public from CGN models area. Or another solution: sending him a PM.

It was before the discussion about your friends when you said several times you might post in public what models discuss in there. And other models complained for not feeling safe about that. it is not your decision if what you post in public makes harm or not. The condition of being in models only area is very simple.

Now i think you give yourself too much importance. The models are too busy now discussing about websites and privacy than about you or your friends.

BustyAmeera
03-03-2011, 07:58 AM
Coolbreeze, for what it's worth I'd like to let you know I appreciate the work you put in. I suggest you just post on the other forum, and not let this senseless arguing drag out (and I know it can) and bring more attention to what should have been a more private matter.

Thx again

bhg
03-03-2011, 08:37 AM
Blueextassy, yes it’s easy to get lost reading this thread. Let me break it down for you.

There was a site Camwealth that was brought to the attention of CGN , that had models and members personal information available to view to the public. But only if you know how to look for it.
Not very cool for Camweath to leave a directory open .

Then Coolbreeze said he would go look if other cam sites had models and members information that was viewable to the public and if there were have them closed .


Then Bambilina said Coolbreeze should give any information to her so she can give to her friends, because she knows a lawyer.

Coolbreeze, said nope , not going to do that..


Then Michael from PornLaw, said Coolbreeze was possibly braking the law and posted a big list of laws that has nothing to do with Coolbreeze looking at open directories available to the public.


Michael from Pornlaw , know the law...coz he posted it. But he knows he should have posted it to the cam web sites , certainly not on strippers web directed at CoolBreeze.



Then Coolbreeze talks to the FBI and says...” hey FBI man, i found all these personal information laying around in a public area” FBI man says ..” who’s Personal information you have?”


Coolbreeze says to FBI man” oh just some girls who work on adult webcam sites and information of the customers who visit them” FBI man say “ where more interested to know about the members who visit these sites, just for political interest of coarse”


FBI man say ... “ best you don’t share this information with other people”

Then Bambalina say ... Coolbreeze, im not happy how you find all this information out.

Coolbreeze then say .”listen you too can go look , or have your friends/laywer look in the same place i did for any web sites that have left folders open viewable to the public.

Because it’s not a crime to find, or know where to find ,lost money, passports, personal information, business papers. It’s what you do with the information when you find it.

So , Blueextassy to sum everything up....

Some models personal information was open to view( if you know how) on 3 web sites.

Coolbreeze spent over 100 hours checking over 120 web sites to see if they had open directories .


The 2 web sites he found that had security breaches have now been fixed.


Fuck me , he spent over 100 hours of his time just checking and trying to make things secure.


Now if Coolbreeze was a camgirl tha
t worked on MFC at $6.00 per minute.... that would be...umm you do the maths.... not quite as much as i’v spent on camgirls.......


And i like you models , I being a member, don’t want my cam history available and open to the public.
so many thanks to CoolBreeze

Bambalina
03-03-2011, 12:09 PM
Interesting posts. I am done as I said...

I only ask two things...Show me where I ever asked for any of the private info to be sent to ME? Ever. Quote that please? I can quote for you where I specifically said I do not want, nor would I accept the liability of having ANY of the personal info. So this is my big beef. I have been slandered and my motives questioned since day one for something I never said, did, and even said the OPPOSITE about. This bhg post asserts that, and Camgirl asserts that, and if they cannot post where I "asked for" these private IDs, then I outright call them both liars.

Secondly Camgirl said I THREATENED Coolbreeze. I would like to see the specific wording that was a THREAT. Since pointing out that having people's private IDs on your hard-drive is PROBABLY illegal, is not a threat. It was said out of concern and to point out that "helping" could end up getting folks in trouble, since they are admitting to crimes on open forums. No threat. So again, post THE QUOTED words where I threatened Coolbreeze.

There we go...Done now...

B

bhg
03-03-2011, 12:57 PM
Ok, thusfar it seems to point to at least 2 sites, but without the promised links, we have some evidence, but not the goldmine that even one active link would bring. Also, the names of the involved sites, which should NOT be posted publicly yet, should be sent to Dancing Days, who is in contact with the lawyer.

If you want to send anything this way, I volunteer to document it all, and to work on contacting some of the affected models. If not, that's fine too. But definitely Dancing Days needs to be updated.

We need definitive evidence that other sites are involved.

B
there you go)))

Bambalina
03-03-2011, 02:51 PM
Touche'...but this clearly AVOIDS the clarification of my position on this ONCE the actual investigation got underway, where I would obviously NOT be necessary.

CLEARLY posted AFTER the quote you included, but before Camgirl made up her lies:


I have written to Coolbreeze and will say here, I specifically do NOT want access to sensitive information, because I don't want that liability...However, I don't really want Coolbreeze to have that access either...or Camgirl...or anyone else but a duly appointed representative of the courts.


All less than a full page of messages away....STRANGE how you ALL missed it, and Camgirl posted what she did accusing me of asking for this stuff AFTER I posted that...Weird huh?

Will I get a retraction? Seriously doubtful...

B

bhg
03-03-2011, 03:20 PM
Nope! no reaction, you can have the last word

Bambalina
03-03-2011, 07:12 PM
Um, I didn;t say reACtion, I said reTRAction..huge difference.

B

Cyrano22
03-16-2011, 08:26 AM
Hmmm, Roast. SlideR is the person who posted that post that you cited from December 2008, but he's no longer involved in handling membership issues. However it's also true that none of three Male admins or Mods on CGN are active customers - this is just a matter of policy on the forum. I mean honestly would you want one of your regulars "custies" - who could also be a pirate - as a mod on a forum where you were actively participating? However, we have do have lots of customers and ex-customers who are basic members, but they have no access to the models areas of the forum.

In any case to update the model membership issue on CGN, there's a active discussion going on about how to make our verification procedures tighter, but as of now all model membership requests are being handled by one of our four Model Admins or mods.
Thanks

UL

CGN Global Mod.