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PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-08-2017, 09:29 AM
I've just started on here and I can't keep my broadcasting stream if I click on other tabs on my computer so I've been stuck doing nothing but staring at the screen and I'm already going nuts. Support won't help as they told me the site is set up that way intentionally but there has to be a work around. What I want to do is is have the Streamate and Cams free chat both on my screen to see at once with the phone and CMD tabs running in the background and be able to check random things like open up my blog ,work on my social media etc without dropping my feed. I have a good computer and two cameras but no split camming software as it messed up my computer big time when I tried it. I do finally have decent upload speeds.
Sorry if this should be in the split camming thread but since the issue was specific to Cams I put it here but it can be moved:).

If Im following this correctly, your feed shouldn't stop when you do all of those things. Unless your computer and internet aren't strong enough to handle it. Have you checked what your cpu percentage is when you have all of these things running? Also what upload speed did you upgrade to?

SuperPookie
07-08-2017, 09:40 AM
Support told me that the reason my feed drops is that they don't want models not paying attention to their rooms or split camming so they will drop my broadcast whenever I click on another page. It will do it with anything. For instance I'm streaming on Cams but wanted to look at a recipe online...broadcast dropped for looking at another page. I have upload 5 download 15

SuperPookie
07-08-2017, 09:42 AM
...I think download is higher than that actually. I'd have to double check

Snowy0Star
07-08-2017, 10:13 AM
that they don't want models not paying attention to their rooms or split camming so they will drop my broadcast whenever I click on another page. It will do it with anything.

if its becomming such an issue for them that girls arent paying attention to thier rooms maybe theyre the issue not the performers. is this a new thing they did ? i havent worked on cams in like 2 months because their shitty traffic. i had a reg freeloader join my fanclub (he had a few cents in his account always tired to talk to me and beg for shit but then it just turned into him giving up talking to me and begging and just sat in my room) so he could watch the shows other ppl did with me i never saw him again in my room after i called him out on it when i realized what he did but IIRC that was the last day i was on there (AFAIK at that time we still couldnt delete our videos because of a "glitch" so there was nothing i could do about it) i was only getting a few bucks a day on there for like 2 weeks less then $10 from tips in free chat and money from them turning on their camera so it wast worth it for me to keep going there . If the whole "cant look away" thing isnt new i must be bypassing thier detector because i have two screens . One screen is on SM and Cams and the other one is for me to do whatever i want to do on my computer

some other things i noticed - the time before i stoped two months ago i noticed a few names that would come in my room with 50-100 in their account and it was the same amount from like 2 years ago when i last worked the site . they just keep a lot of money in their account to trick girls into pulling out all the stops for them when they have no intention of ever spending money on them or anyone else on the site ever again . and ive noticed i get the same names comming into my room who never spend a dime on me but come into my room everyday and over the course of a few days i see thier money going up and down - meaning they come into my room after theyre done spending money on other girls or they just dont like me enuf to spend money on me . if im not good enuf to spend money on but im good enuf to look at why come in my room at all? its so disrespectful but i hope eventually one day they will so i dont ban them even tho it makes my ban finger have a seizure everytime i see them.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-08-2017, 11:04 AM
Support told me that the reason my feed drops is that they don't want models not paying attention to their rooms or split camming so they will drop my broadcast whenever I click on another page. It will do it with anything. For instance I'm streaming on Cams but wanted to look at a recipe online...broadcast dropped for looking at another page. I have upload 5 download 15

No something doesn't sound right with that response. Splitcamming is allowed. Also you're not using splitcam software, so how would they know? And if this is happening every time you open a new browser someone from cams would have to watch you like a hawk. And even then how would they know you were multi tasking without using remote access software? Something like Teamviewer where they could see your screen. This doesn't add up. Did someone from chat support tell you this or did you call? Maybe you're having tech issues that couldn't explain and decided to give you a bs response.

maddiebabe
07-08-2017, 11:06 AM
Um I splitcam everytime :x without issue. I would not be shocked though if that's what they told you from my interactions with some of their support.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-08-2017, 11:09 AM
...I think download is higher than that actually. I'd have to double check

When it comes to streaming its your upload speed that matters. 5 is more than enough to splitcam with. What are your computer specs? And be sure to have your task manager open so you can monitor your cpu. Whats the percentage when this happens?

I ask all of this because I split cams with sm using Verysoft two days ago and did not have this issue.

SuperPookie
07-08-2017, 11:17 AM
When it comes to streaming its your upload speed that matters. 5 is more than enough to splitcam with. What are your computer specs? And be sure to have your task manager open so you can monitor your cpu. Whats the percentage when this happens?

I ask all of this because I split cams with sm using Verysoft two days ago and did not have this issue.

I'm not sure about cpu so I'll have to check that.
So their support is crappy?-good to know. At first I used their live support and was told that the issue might be solved by using a separate monitor but then she referred me to technical support so I emailed them with a detailed description of my problem and that's when I was told that they don't allow split camming and that's why it was happening. I replied that it happened regardless if I was on another cam site and that it was literally anything else(except for Skype. I can check it without dropping my broadcast) but I haven't heard back yet.

SuperPookie
07-08-2017, 11:19 AM
& I'll be honest I don't really want to invest in a separate monitor or other tech for a site that might not work out for me at all.

Snowy0Star
07-08-2017, 11:34 AM
& I'll be honest I don't really want to invest in a separate monitor or other tech for a site that might not work out for me at all.

i just got lucky and my landlord works with computers the garage has a few monitors small (to me becuase im used to a 42 inch tv lol) and i commondeared one then my roommate owed me $120 so he just gave me his TV thats about the same size as my first one.

minniesoporno
07-08-2017, 12:42 PM
I've just started on here and I can't keep my broadcasting stream if I click on other tabs on my computer so I've been stuck doing nothing but staring at the screen and I'm already going nuts. Support won't help as they told me the site is set up that way intentionally but there has to be a work around. What I want to do is is have the Streamate and Cams free chat both on my screen to see at once with the phone and CMD tabs running in the background and be able to check random things like open up my blog ,work on my social media etc without dropping my feed. I have a good computer and two cameras but no split camming software as it messed up my computer big time when I tried it. I do finally have decent upload speeds.
Sorry if this should be in the split camming thread but since the issue was specific to Cams I put it here but it can be moved:).


With how the tech is being developed on cams and streamate, you will need two computers to do all this stuff.

The sites are taking more resources to broadcast smoothly. So if you really want that many tabs open, and then be doing other things you will need more machines to do it.

Right now I run my desktop for SM, and thinking of getting my laptop out of the pawn shop to run cams. or I will keep it in the pawn shop and just get a new computer all together. Then have a my laptop to do all my blogging, social media and web browsing. That way its set where two desktops at my desk and my laptop on my tv tray.

positioned in a webcam that is look like I am looking at my camera and making eye contact.

To run OBS and FMLE or the SMbroadcast and to keep and maintain a strong feed you need the highest internet package you have available to you and two computers.

Even if you make a super computer machine it can handle all that browsing, and clicking and power and then keep your broadcast feeds strong.

SuperPookie
07-09-2017, 09:29 AM
I got a reply back from support and they basically confirmed that I'm not allowed to open other webpages because of the possibility that they might be other cam sites 0.0. I sent them another message just to be sure but that's what they said. This is absurd. While yes I do plan to splitcam, even if I didn't I would certainly want to look at other sites occasionally so I'm definitely going to need a work around for this.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-09-2017, 10:13 AM
I got a reply back from support and they basically confirmed that I'm not allowed to open other webpages because of the possibility that they might be other cam sites 0.0. I sent them another message just to be sure but that's what they said. This is absurd. While yes I do plan to splitcam, even if I didn't I would certainly want to look at other sites occasionally so I'm definitely going to need a work around for this.

I still say this is an issue with your computer specs. What kind of computer are you using? Make, model, type of processor and look at your cpu percentage when this happens. Clearly support is just recycling a bs response.

minniesoporno
07-09-2017, 12:30 PM
I got a reply back from support and they basically confirmed that I'm not allowed to open other webpages because of the possibility that they might be other cam sites 0.0. I sent them another message just to be sure but that's what they said. This is absurd. While yes I do plan to splitcam, even if I didn't I would certainly want to look at other sites occasionally so I'm definitely going to need a work around for this.

Yes in a fantasy world all cam sites want all their models to be exclusive to them. and only work one site. but with the change the industry and the unpredictable traffic all over cam sites it's not going to fly.

So if you increase your internet speed. use two separate machines for minimum splitting two cam sites and then a small computer for web surfing and posting on stripperweb lets say you can get away with splitting and doing what you want. its a matter of positioning of the computers, webcam and then making sure your web surfing computer is out of site from camming. and also being VERY alert of your chat rooms.

your only control is to have the best computer set up you can afford to make sure you are giving each site your best broadcast feed/stream. Going wired connection is also best as well.

minniesoporno
07-09-2017, 12:43 PM
So I am curious if broadcasting with FMLE or OBS on streamray worth it.

Snowy0Star
07-09-2017, 02:06 PM
So I am curious if broadcasting with FMLE or OBS on streamray worth it.

no its annoying AF because every time u get a pvt it disconnects you and makes u put in new codes to go back on . if it wasnt like that id say yes but because they have the site set up like that i wil not use broadcasting software on their site .

Magical_Hoohah
07-09-2017, 02:34 PM
no its annoying AF because every time u get a pvt it disconnects you and makes u put in new codes to go back on . if it wasnt like that id say yes but because they have the site set up like that i wil not use broadcasting software on their site .

I haven't had that experience. Did you look carefully at the codes, Snowy? For me, until I close the broadcaster down, the codes are the same every time. Yeah, the broadcaster constantly reminds you to enter the codes, but if they haven't changed and you didn't turn off the FMLE, you don't actually have to do anything. I just hit the button to return to free chat after a private, and it works fine - no need to do anything with the FMLE at all.

Also, I split Cams with up to 3 other sites on the same computer, and have never had them take any measures to prevent it. I think you're having some unique tech issues, and Cams support is fucking with you.

naomi_doll
07-09-2017, 02:39 PM
I haven't had that experience. Did you look carefully at the codes, Snowy? For me, until I close the broadcaster down, the codes are the same every time. Yeah, the broadcaster constantly reminds you to enter the codes, but if they haven't changed and you didn't turn off the FMLE, you don't actually have to do anything. I just hit the button to return to free chat after a private, and it works fine - no need to do anything with the FMLE at all.

Also, I split Cams with up to 3 other sites on the same computer, and have never had them take any measures to prevent it. I think you're having some unique tech issues, and Cams support is fucking with you.

Same with me for both of those, you don't have to redo the codes in FMLE or OBS, just keep streaming and guys will see you. I also switch windows all the time just to browse or talk to friends and have never lost my connection. Does that happen for you in every browser? Are you using an encoder?

Snowy0Star
07-09-2017, 02:49 PM
im not sure maybe i was just being a spazz and didnt realize i didnt have to put codes in again i just saw the promt to do it again in the chat room so i thuoght i had to put in the codes again .

Magical_Hoohah
07-09-2017, 03:43 PM
^Yeah, it prompts you to do it all the fucking time, but you can ignore it. The codes change when you shut down the broadcaster or fully lose internet connection. The rest of the time you can ignore the prompts.

Blovely
07-09-2017, 09:43 PM
no its annoying AF because every time u get a pvt it disconnects you and makes u put in new codes to go back on . if it wasnt like that id say yes but because they have the site set up like that i wil not use broadcasting software on their site .

I haven't had that experience. Did you look carefully at the codes, Snowy? For me, until I close the broadcaster down, the codes are the same every time. Yeah, the broadcaster constantly reminds you to enter the codes, but if they haven't changed and you didn't turn off the FMLE, you don't actually have to do anything. I just hit the button to return to free chat after a private, and it works fine - no need to do anything with the FMLE at all.

Also, I split Cams with up to 3 other sites on the same computer, and have never had them take any measures to prevent it. I think you're having some unique tech issues, and Cams support is fucking with you.

I got a reply back from support and they basically confirmed that I'm not allowed to open other webpages because of the possibility that they might be other cam sites 0.0. I sent them another message just to be sure but that's what they said. This is absurd. While yes I do plan to splitcam, even if I didn't I would certainly want to look at other sites occasionally so I'm definitely going to need a work around for this.


Same here in regards to the bold. @SuperPookie Are you using the same browser when you are trying to open other tabs? I haven't been on Cams in months but like others I've never had problems split-camming there. I use 2 computers.... 1 for SM and the other for Cams and Imlive. I will sometimes use 1 computer for all 3 when I'm feeling lazy and only want to be on 1 computer though. I've gotten warnings but that was because I had "display on my screen" aka watermarks/screen-overlay on my stream. I've never been straight up told that I couldn't split nor have they taken preventative action like stopping my stream.

I think its really silly for sites to try an impose no splitting rules. They aren't doing enough or providing enough to warrant such a rule. You don't want us to split but you're only giving us 29-35%, in Cams case they do not cover chargebacks, they don't provide nearly enough decent traffic and now they want us to bring our social media traffic to their sites yet they don't want to increase % or change anything in our favor. Smh at trying to bully models when all we are trying to do is make a living.....a living that they get paid from and make their living from. Camsites you know if you actually made your sites good enough most models wouldn't need to and some wouldn't even want to splitcam.


So I am curious if broadcasting with FMLE or OBS on streamray worth it.
Some have said that using Fmle/Obs didn't make a difference in placement or $$ so they stuck to using the built-in broadcaster. Some have said that customers complained about audio issues when they used FMLE/OBS. For me when I use their built-in broadcaster my screen always and constantly freezes and I get complaints about audio. So I kind of have to stick to using an external broadcaster. I used FMLE for a while but now I use OBS.

SuperPookie
07-13-2017, 02:14 PM
When it comes to streaming its your upload speed that matters. 5 is more than enough to splitcam with. What are your computer specs? And be sure to have your task manager open so you can monitor your cpu. Whats the percentage when this happens?

I ask all of this because I split cams with sm using Verysoft two days ago and did not have this issue. running Cams,Streamate,phone and the Skype sites plus a random tab or two put e at between 18-22% cpu which surprised me as I was expecting it to be higher. I'm not using any of the broadcasters though so it will probably increase when I try that.
I finally managed to open other tabs btw by using a entirely different browser. It's a pain but definitely better than not being able to do it all.
Question- is the phone option on there phone only or phone with cam? I set it highest as I thought it was an extra but a guy told me it was for phone only in which case I way over priced it.

naomi_doll
07-14-2017, 08:56 AM
Its phone by itself. They would pay both the cam rate and the phone rate at the same time if they do both together (like they do when they turn on their cam), or if you turn on phone while you are off cam, they would only pay the phone rate.

minniesoporno
07-17-2017, 10:51 PM
I read in the studio login page pay periods end on the 8th and 21st of the month. is that they days they process payments or did it switch from 1-15 and 16 to end of the month.

TheBrownFox
07-20-2017, 07:13 AM
What the fuck is up with Cams this morning? I clicked the broadcast button for Nude Chat mode, but I have the feeling the site is fucked up and was showing me in free chat. There is absolutely no way I had that many paying members in Nude Chat all at once (was like 3 or 4 at a time). I was sitting there topless and shit, and I left right away when I realized something wasn't right. Also, it kept making the ka-ching sound of guys entering the room...leaving the room...entering...leaving.

Cams, get your shit together! They better not try to suspend me over this shit either, because that's THEIR fuckup!

Snowy0Star
07-20-2017, 07:31 AM
What the fuck is up with Cams this morning? I clicked the broadcast button for Nude Chat mode, but I have the feeling the site is fucked up and was showing me in free chat. There is absolutely no way I had that many paying members in Nude Chat all at once (was like 3 or 4 at a time). I was sitting there topless and shit, and I left right away when I realized something wasn't right. Also, it kept making the ka-ching sound of guys entering the room...leaving the room...entering...leaving.

Cams, get your shit together! They better not try to suspend me over this shit either, because that's THEIR fuckup!

that happened to me once i was doing a show on SM and went into nude chat but it didnt work and i ended up getting two notices from the 5 min show i did on SM when i was in free chat thinking i was in nude chat. I dont know what the point of giving two was but i just shook it off that site is whacked anyway the way they treat thier modles is shitty and the customers are shitty to girls too for the post part theres SOME nice guys on there but IMO the site is very polarized with customers - it seems theyre either EXTREMLY CHEAP or EXTREMLY GENERUOIS and like to drop lots when they do - those are what keep me around when i can stand the jack asses that are the majority of the useres there. I dont talk to anyone unless they have at least $20 in their account

TheBrownFox
07-23-2017, 08:27 AM
Well...Cams did it to me again. Shortly after I did a brief session with a guy in Nude Chat, it kept bringing some guy (with $0.00 showing beside his screen name) into my Nude Chat...as I'm sitting there topless. And when the site gets screwy like this, you just keep repeatedly hearing the sounds of members entering/exiting what's supposed to be Nude Chat. On my end, it shows that I'm in Nude Chat. But I'm not about to have this fucked up-ass site suspend me, so...I left and headed over to ImLive. I haven't broadcasted on ImLive in quite a while, but at least on there I don't have to do all that 'going through new snapshot pics to delete the bad ones' BS. Also, I see that ImLive turns 15 in August. Since that is also my birthday month, I might participate in their "Birthday Sensation" video contest...just because I'm pretty excited about the month of August.

I swear, Cams needs to get their shit together. I'm still having that issue where I'll log in sometimes, and the page says "Thank you for submitting your documents. Your documents are being processed, and then you will be ready to stream" or whatever. SMH.

KRV_xo
07-26-2017, 04:01 PM
I read in the studio login page pay periods end on the 8th and 21st of the month. is that they days they process payments or did it switch from 1-15 and 16 to end of the month.

Hey Minnie. did you figure this out? I have my payment method as direct deposit. I can't find the dates when they pay models.

Also, is our take home money the "Grand Total" amount or is it the "Tiered Payout Total"?

minniesoporno
07-26-2017, 05:35 PM
Hey Minnie. did you figure this out? I have my payment method as direct deposit. I can't find the dates when they pay models.

Also, is our take home money the "Grand Total" amount or is it the "Tiered Payout Total"?

Well I switched my payment back to first choice/payoneer too late. but today I got paid via paypal from Melody which is the company name of their affiliate company and adult friend finder.

Grand Total is your income, and then on the home page it will say the same total.

The big numbers are basically gross income. Which has the meter of your percentage. I like this better because its easier to calculate the math.

KittieVenom
07-26-2017, 09:02 PM
I swear I am so damn sick of these chargebacks. I'm thinking about going back to SM but I know there's a lot of glitches there but at least they don't steal your damn money. Everytime I see my earnings go down because of this bullshit I get more and more fed up.

minniesoporno
07-26-2017, 09:14 PM
I swear I am so damn sick of these chargebacks. I'm thinking about going back to SM but I know there's a lot of glitches there but at least they don't steal your damn money. Everytime I see my earnings go down because of this bullshit I get more and more fed up.

There are glitches on every site - there is no one perfect site out there. some sites want you to keep $50 in the account before they pay you to cover chargebacks. that's how I look at it with working with cams. I always to make a little more just in case chargebacks happen,. It's about rolling with the punches.

As far as I know being an affiliate for cams under their affiliate side there are no chargebacks it only happens when working as a model or studio. that's based on looking back at my affiliate stats.

Blovely
07-27-2017, 05:41 PM
I swear I am so damn sick of these chargebacks. I'm thinking about going back to SM but I know there's a lot of glitches there but at least they don't steal your damn money. Everytime I see my earnings go down because of this bullshit I get more and more fed up.

You could always just splitcam. If I'm making money on a site I find it better to just split instead of completely eliminating it or trying to find just 1 site to work on. As far as glitches unless the glitches aren't allowing me to sign on or if they're constantly kicking me off I just roll with them.

minniesoporno
07-27-2017, 08:43 PM
You could always just splitcam. If I'm making money on a site I find it better to just split instead of completely eliminating it or trying to find just 1 site to work on. As far as glitches unless the glitches aren't allowing me to sign on or if they're constantly kicking me off I just roll with them.

Right now split camming is saving me working cams and sm. Sometimes SM is really dead probably because my rates are higher. so on SM my aim is for quality customers while cams is nice and quick guys but I am noticing I am getting up to 4 minutes a show. I know the more I cam it will increase, cams is my home base site and SM is my secondary.

queenc
07-30-2017, 11:00 AM
They have a thing u can opt into to cover chargebacks but it costs 5 percent. I did it since I haven't mad any money there yet but have only been on for n hour at like 4 am but I don't want to deal with chargebacks at all. Just an option for u guys

minniesoporno
07-30-2017, 11:38 AM
They have a thing u can opt into to cover chargebacks but it costs 5 percent. I did it since I haven't mad any money there yet but have only been on for n hour at like 4 am but I don't want to deal with chargebacks at all. Just an option for u guys

It works out the same, keep your default percentage and just work more to cover charebacks, or give up a percentage and they still cover chargebacks.

Ca$$4Ca$h
07-31-2017, 06:17 PM
Is it just me or did they eliminate the option to only allow members with funds to chat....I'm off in an hour and desperately hoping it is a temporary glitch! Because OMFG!

stormi
07-31-2017, 11:21 PM
Is it just me or did they eliminate the option to only allow members with funds to chat....I'm off in an hour and desperately hoping it is a temporary glitch! Because OMFG!

wtf?! I don't see it either! The fact I could mute and ignore any users without money made it the one reason I was still on there.

Based on their most recent contest : "Convert existing European Bounty Members between now and August 1st and you could win up to $1,000. To enter, just get zero balance members from targeted countries to place an order– it’s that easy..." It seems like they are really pushing us to convert non-paying customers/freeloaders..which is a lot of energy for something that doesn't always pay off.

I know we're in sales but it is so much easier if they help us by giving guys an incentive to sign up and add money to their account. Like if guys see that models only talk to men with money , wouldn't that convince guys to sign up and spend?

Also, guys with no money say the weirdest shit in chat and scares/ turns off decent customers

CamChik
08-01-2017, 06:23 AM
OMFG! Yesterday was an absolute nightmare and for me it was the last day of the pay period. My sound was cutting in and out all day and every time I would check why my traffic was so bad I would get to my feed/profile and it would show that I was offline. I only saw regulars yesterday - no new faces. I made $0.60 in 30 minutes last night and finally had to throw in the towel and just let it go. (I usually make $50 - $100 an hour on average). I made 1/3 of my goal after being on all day.

I noticed my broadcaster had been reset and when I went to update my settings the checkbox to mute users without funds was gone so I restarted my broadcaster a few times and it never showed up. And then true to freeloader style the very first freeloader to post cusses me out in spanish - insta-ban. Then another starts talking shit. Ban. Half of my paid guys left when that happened. Had a few respectful guys that were nice that may convert but for the most part the freeloaders being able to type is muted in my room for a reason! Most of them talk shit, beg, are obnoxious and paid guys always leave by the boatload when they see this. I spend more time banning than talking to the paid guys. Allowing them to type has only worked out for me once as a conversion. ONCE! And I used it out of desperation when it was ridiculously slow on the site like a year ago.

Also there has been a LOT of pussy in free chat these last few weeks. I know it's slow in there but give me a fucking break.

AvaLove
08-01-2017, 06:55 AM
Why do they make drastic changes without notifying the models?

First they change the fan club and now they are allowing people without funds to talk. I contacted the support and this is what they said below.

I hope this is temporary. I was unable to get ahold of the tech support. I will try again later. We only able to keep 1/3 of our earnings and they expect us to interact with freeloaders. It bad enough you encounter guys who have the same $0.60 or less in their account for weeks.

Imlive allows non paid users to talk and they make the experience for the model and customer bad.

http://i.imgur.com/iqh4icC.jpg

minniesoporno
08-01-2017, 07:01 AM
The original set up for cams at least for me since I've been on there since 2003.

Was you literally saw "freeloader" for guest. as they entered the room. Allowing free members to chat is not a drastic change.

It's simple talk with the freeloader for a few times and if they aren't upgrade you stop talking to them and smile, if they become annoying and distract the whole room kick them out. With more countries getting access to the internet and more countries getting credit cards the climate of cam sites is changing.

So not only are we getting more countries seeing us we are also opened to a new market where we have to train guys to pay for shows.

Changing the pay period from 21 to 7 is a drastic change from "1 to 15 to 16 to end"

leiaswift
08-01-2017, 07:24 AM
I noticed the "free chatters" so I can here to check out whats going on... Thanks for posting about the situation and that screenshot of support. I hope this really is only temporary. I prefer to conserve my energy for private shows.

AvaLove
08-01-2017, 07:24 AM
The original set up for cams at least for me since I've been on there since 2003.

Was you literally saw "freeloader" for guest. as they entered the room. Allowing free members to chat is not a drastic change.

It's simple talk with the freeloader for a few times and if they aren't upgrade you stop talking to them and smile, if they become annoying and distract the whole room kick them out. With more countries getting access to the internet and more countries getting credit cards the climate of cam sites is changing.

So not only are we getting more countries seeing us we are also opened to a new market where we have to train guys to pay for shows.

Changing the pay period from 21 to 7 is a drastic change from "1 to 15 to 16 to end"

We can agree to disagree. I am not the only person upset about the fact non paid users are able to talk as you can see from the posts above ours. With exception of ImLive, most cams sites give models the option to chat or not chat with those who did not sign up with a credit card. Then again, ImLive gives you the option of Private Live Chat as well instead of Free Live Chat. So in my opinion, it is a drastic change.

Another one my main issues is that they are not sending emails or having announcements on the model dashboard about these changes.

cymonehearts
08-01-2017, 09:37 AM
It depends on the traffic in your room... if dont get much traffic in your room then i could see why allowing non paying members talk because you have time to convert them to paying . However me personally when my traffic is great the non paying guys tend to troll, beg, and mess up the rooms vibe .. .which distracts me from the paying guys.

And is this a "glitch" or did they temporarily remove the function to see if us models could convert them to paying members ? hmmm

anonymous camgirl
08-01-2017, 09:55 AM
Yea what's up with this.. today my ability to shut them up is gone! Talk about more fuckng stress added to my life!.. I cannot wait to get out of this business.. all these cam sites make it harder and harder on models to work.


It depends on the traffic in your room... if dont get much traffic in your room then i could see why allowing non paying members talk because you have time to convert them to paying . However me personally when my traffic is great the non paying guys tend to troll, beg, and mess up the rooms vibe .. .which distracts me from the paying guys.

And is this a "glitch" or did they temporarily remove the function to see if us models could convert them to paying members ? hmmm

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-01-2017, 10:07 AM
Why do they make drastic changes without notifying the models?

First they change the fan club and now they are allowing people without funds to talk. I contacted the support and this is what they said below.

I hope this is temporary. I was unable to get ahold of the tech support. I will try again later. We only able to keep 1/3 of our earnings and they expect us to interact with freeloaders. It bad enough you encounter guys who have the same $0.60 or less in their account for weeks.

Imlive allows non paid users to talk and they make the experience for the model and customer bad.

http://i.imgur.com/iqh4icC.jpg

Awww this makes me sad. Cams has so much potential but unfortunately not for as many models as it once did according this. I'm guessing that this move is based on a response from affiliates or their need to appease them in some way? Cams really is making an effort to drive traffic back to the site but sadly I think they're getting away from the idea of honoring model feedback. I think this is what's behind that European contest and now removing the ability to mute those without money loaded. They want to make sure that the Euro traffic being sent to the site can convert.

I was so excited when they had that youtube session where models showed up to voice their opinions but it all went to shit because the stream was shit and no one could hear what was going on in real time. To my knowledge none of the things expressed have been worked on. Being able to mute zero dollar members was a perk that many models truly loved. Myself included. I really wanted to start putting in more hours on cams like I did once a upon a time. But each time I log on it's brutally slow for me and almost none of the customers that use to be on that site when I flourished on there, don't seem to be around.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-01-2017, 10:09 AM
It depends on the traffic in your room... if dont get much traffic in your room then i could see why allowing non paying members talk because you have time to convert them to paying . However me personally when my traffic is great the non paying guys tend to troll, beg, and mess up the rooms vibe .. .which distracts me from the paying guys.

And is this a "glitch" or did they temporarily remove the function to see if us models could convert them to paying members ? hmmm

Yes this reminds me of that "glitch" where models couldn't delete their videos forcing them to provide content for fanclubs that you can't opt out of or their other websites that gives members access to your videos.

AvaLove
08-01-2017, 10:10 AM
Here is an update from the tech support

http://i.imgur.com/BkYpa9J.jpg

TheBrownFox
08-01-2017, 10:25 AM
Yes this reminds me of that "glitch" where models couldn't delete their videos forcing them to provide content for fanclubs that you can't opt out of or their other websites that gives members access to your videos.

Yup, when I log onto Cams I always see that stupid thing about how I "uploaded a new video." Smh. I hate that there's no way to remove it. Too many glitches on that site lately, so I don't bother going on there much now.

cymonehearts
08-01-2017, 10:46 AM
Yep so far ive been online for a few hours... you think i converted one non paying member ... nope! they are still sitting, making pointless convos, popping in and out .. they dont have any intent to buy tokens or to be a paying member.

and Cams support is shitty.
why not just be honest with models .. and tell us its a test vs saying its a glitch.

SuperPookie
08-01-2017, 02:22 PM
I had that problem and live support was super rude to me but I messaged them on Twitter and they got everything back to normal quickly.