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Fitandpretty
09-04-2014, 03:09 AM
One last question, does Cams do Payoneer? Can't get mailed checks when I'm outside the US I assume

Yes they use Payoneer :)

SimoneGray
09-04-2014, 03:37 AM
Woohoo! thank you xx

SoloDesire
09-04-2014, 07:48 AM
The guys on Cams are too damn cheap!! I can barely get away with $4.99 a minute for private...and when I raised it to $5.99 I have had nothing but whiny, bitchy boys complaining. At 29% and having to charge so little, this site just isn't worth it for me...I've been trying, but I only make pocket change on there. I give up.

minniesoporno
09-04-2014, 11:08 AM
The guys on Cams are too damn cheap!! I can barely get away with $4.99 a minute for private...and when I raised it to $5.99 I have had nothing but whiny, bitchy boys complaining. At 29% and having to charge so little, this site just isn't worth it for me...I've been trying, but I only make pocket change on there. I give up.

If you are new on cams it is better to keep your rates at the default rate, before raising them, you need a solid fan base before increasing your rates on cams.

SoloDesire
09-04-2014, 11:17 AM
If you are new on cams it is better to keep your rates at the default rate, before raising them, you need a solid fan base before increasing your rates on cams.

I'm not new, I've been on Cams for 2 years as a splitting site.

SophieL
09-04-2014, 12:31 PM
I can't find the W9 form on cams?

SimoneGray
09-04-2014, 02:35 PM
I've had so much back and forth regarding ID pics with them today. Urgh. But its weird because right after I submit another one, I gain access to my dashboard etc and then the minute they find fault with it, its back to the document page. Hopefully they'll accept this new one.

Also, question for the veterans of the site, what's a good starting rate to charge? I don't mind averaging about $20/hr on there, as it does add up quickly. Also, with my studio on SM I only got 20% so 29% is a welcome relief. Bearing that in mind, are the guys on cams like the ones on SM in the sense that they don't mind paying for more expensive things?

LadyCoco
09-04-2014, 04:06 PM
How long does it take them to approve your application?

SophieL
09-04-2014, 04:33 PM
Mine was approved in about 24 hours I think but it has taken me longer to find all the stuff they want.

JaneBurgess
09-04-2014, 05:08 PM
I like it as a second site. When I do a show on another site I put myself into nude chat. I do agree tho, this site has the cheapest customers I've ever seen. Probably because the site doesn't have a lot of American performers.



The guys on Cams are too damn cheap!! I can barely get away with $4.99 a minute for private...and when I raised it to $5.99 I have had nothing but whiny, bitchy boys complaining. At 29% and having to charge so little, this site just isn't worth it for me...I've been trying, but I only make pocket change on there. I give up.

SoloDesire
09-04-2014, 05:13 PM
I like it as a second site. When I do a show on another site I put myself into nude chat. I do agree tho, this site has the cheapest customers I've ever seen. Probably because the site doesn't have a lot of American performers.

I don't do the nude chat because I use two cameras and reposition my cam for shows...so it's nearly impossible to move 2 cams around when I do a show on SM. I usually just try to get privates on both sites individually. I'm just extremely bummed that I never make a lot from Cams...and those guys irritate me when they act like I'm charging an arm and a leg when it's still $3 cheaper a minute than my prices on SM. The guys on SM are a lot more willing to pay.

JaneBurgess
09-04-2014, 07:01 PM
Oh I know. They want phone with their cam show at a cheap rate as well.



I don't do the nude chat because I use two cameras and reposition my cam for shows...so it's nearly impossible to move 2 cams around when I do a show on SM. I usually just try to get privates on both sites individually. I'm just extremely bummed that I never make a lot from Cams...and those guys irritate me when they act like I'm charging an arm and a leg when it's still $3 cheaper a minute than my prices on SM. The guys on SM are a lot more willing to pay.

anonymous camgirl
09-05-2014, 07:19 AM
Just curious if anyone got paid with direct deposit yet?? It's the 5th.. that's the latest I receive my money.. No money yet!

SarahTime
09-05-2014, 08:26 AM
I don't do the nude chat because I use two cameras and reposition my cam for shows...so it's nearly impossible to move 2 cams around when I do a show on SM. I usually just try to get privates on both sites individually. I'm just extremely bummed that I never make a lot from Cams...and those guys irritate me when they act like I'm charging an arm and a leg when it's still $3 cheaper a minute than my prices on SM. The guys on SM are a lot more willing to pay.

I use 2 cams as well, you should really try to get the hang of moving two around so you can do nude. I just set the cam up for cams.com in a good spot and leave it there while I'm in nude chat, so if I need to move the cam for SM, I just leave the other one where it is as long as they can still see. I make probably 80% of my income on the site on just nude chat. I think that's one of the more popular chat options on the site. If I didn't use nude chat on there, I honestly wouldn't even bother. I only charge $1.99 for nude chat but I completely ignore the guys and I always get a few that come in during every private or gold show I do on SM. So I'm not just sitting around waiting to make money on cams since people always come into nude chat. It's just like a peep show for them and you can end the nude chat whenever you are done with the show on SM.

Honestly, if you're using it as a site to split, I think you would make a lot more money if you did nude chat. Otherwise, you're probably going to have to lower your rate to something more competitive if you only want to do privates on there. My private rate on there is $3.99 and I have decent placement, page 1 or 2 depending on the time of day, and I can go days without a private on there but I make a lot off nude chat.

SarahTime
09-05-2014, 08:26 AM
Just curious if anyone got paid with direct deposit yet?? It's the 5th.. that's the latest I receive my money.. No money yet!

I have not yet, and it's really frustrating me because I'm waiting on bills to come out! I would have thought it would be there today by the latest, even with the holiday! :(

SoloDesire
09-05-2014, 08:43 AM
I use 2 cams as well, you should really try to get the hang of moving two around so you can do nude. I just set the cam up for cams.com in a good spot and leave it there while I'm in nude chat, so if I need to move the cam for SM, I just leave the other one where it is as long as they can still see. I make probably 80% of my income on the site on just nude chat. I think that's one of the more popular chat options on the site. If I didn't use nude chat on there, I honestly wouldn't even bother. I only charge $1.99 for nude chat but I completely ignore the guys and I always get a few that come in during every private or gold show I do on SM. So I'm not just sitting around waiting to make money on cams since people always come into nude chat. It's just like a peep show for them and you can end the nude chat whenever you are done with the show on SM.

Honestly, if you're using it as a site to split, I think you would make a lot more money if you did nude chat. Otherwise, you're probably going to have to lower your rate to something more competitive if you only want to do privates on there. My private rate on there is $3.99 and I have decent placement, page 1 or 2 depending on the time of day, and I can go days without a private on there but I make a lot off nude chat.

Thanks for the advice! I guess I'll try to find a comfortable place to put my 2nd cam so that it can catch all of the action lol. I just move around my room so much during shows so it might be a pain in the ass...but I'll definitely try it out!

SarahTime
09-05-2014, 08:46 AM
Thanks for the advice! I guess I'll try to find a comfortable place to put my 2nd cam so that it can catch all of the action lol. I just move around my room so much during shows so it might be a pain in the ass...but I'll definitely try it out!

I hated having to get used to using 2 cams, it is a total pain in the ass! But, once I found a good spot I just said fuck it on trying to keep moving it. As long as the guys in nude can see, they haven't seemed to complain so far! Good luck! :D

Fitandpretty
09-05-2014, 09:05 AM
Just curious if anyone got paid with direct deposit yet?? It's the 5th.. that's the latest I receive my money.. No money yet!

I haven't gotten mine yet :/ I want my skrilla $$$ lol

SimoneGray
09-05-2014, 09:57 AM
Just wondering if anyone else has had this experience. Submitted all my documents to the site etc, re-submitted what I had to. Then, yesterday, after I did all that I got a mail stating that my application needed to be filled out so that I could start making money.

They listed all the documents that I have already submitted (basically the whole lot) as being absent. This application is getting a bit frustrating now. Is this just a system generated mail or do they somehow erase your progress if you don't get approved straight away?

SarahTime
09-05-2014, 11:37 AM
Just wondering if anyone else has had this experience. Submitted all my documents to the site etc, re-submitted what I had to. Then, yesterday, after I did all that I got a mail stating that my application needed to be filled out so that I could start making money.

They listed all the documents that I have already submitted (basically the whole lot) as being absent. This application is getting a bit frustrating now. Is this just a system generated mail or do they somehow erase your progress if you don't get approved straight away?

I would probably contact the live support or phone support I listed a page or so back. They should be able to tell you exactly what is needed.

Sounds like they have some errors in their system. My sign up a few years back was flawless. I would mention all the issues to them as well incase they care to look into it.

tropo
09-05-2014, 11:52 AM
The guys on Cams are too damn cheap!! I can barely get away with $4.99 a minute for private...and when I raised it to $5.99 I have had nothing but whiny, bitchy boys complaining. At 29% and having to charge so little, this site just isn't worth it for me...I've been trying, but I only make pocket change on there. I give up.

Did you check your sales list to see what you're being paid for voyeur view? I worked on Cams for a couple of hours in March, noticed that my voyeur was only being paid out at 7.5%. I immediately stopped working - I emailed them (March 30) and I'm still waiting for an answer. Between then and now I've sent them nearly 10 emails and each time they say they are still working on it. The last email was in August. They call it a bug. I'm quite happy to show you the emails if you don't believe me.

I know the real answer. They're cheating girls (me) thinking we're too dumb to work it out. You may also notice that privates are only paid in full minutes. It took many, many emails to have that explained to me, and I believe the answer is bs, but unless you use a stopwatch it is going to be difficult to work it out. Most (good) sites charge (and payout) in 1 second increments, so of course I know what that's all about... they skim up to a minute on every private you do.

SamanthaSugar
09-05-2014, 04:10 PM
I just started splitting Cams, so I don't expect too much from that site and don't put much effort into it and it's been awesome making $60+ for really doing nothing. What I don't like is their stupid Fan Club! Sure it's nice to get $10 for each join but the discount the guys get for pvt shows are ridiculous
$2.99 a minute! I had a fan club member take me pvt and even though he was very nice he was a bit demanding. All I was thinking about was "fuck! I'm expending all this energy for pennies" made me bitter lol. I think I just want to hide out in Nude Chat from now on.

ConnyLove
09-05-2014, 04:32 PM
You may also notice that privates are only paid in full minutes. It took many, many emails to have that explained to me, and I believe the answer is bs, but unless you use a stopwatch it is going to be difficult to work it out. Most (good) sites charge (and payout) in 1 second increments, so of course I know what that's all about... they skim up to a minute on every private you do.

So if a guy stays for 2 minutes and 58 seconds he will be charged for only 2 mins ? No bueno.

TheBrownFox
09-05-2014, 04:48 PM
Yeah, I think they're having some problems over there at Cams, because one minute they were e-mailing me to inform me that they've received my application, and the next minute they were e-mailing to inform me that I'm still in a studio that I need to be released from. Um...what??? Lol. And then, shortly after, I was approved. *shrugs shoulders*

And I'm still having problems where I'm getting disconnected from Nude Chat for "inactivity," even though I'm in front of the webcam screen the whole time.

JaneBurgess
09-05-2014, 05:22 PM
He will be charged for three minutes.



So if a guy stays for 2 minutes and 58 seconds he will be charged for only 2 mins ? No bueno.

CurvyWinona
09-05-2014, 05:31 PM
When can I flash on cams? Is there limited days or hours for this?

JaneBurgess
09-05-2014, 08:36 PM
Only on weekends do they allow boobs flashes. They call it Tits for Tips



When can I flash on cams? Is there limited days or hours for this?

CurvyWinona
09-05-2014, 09:17 PM
Thanks!

anonymous camgirl
09-06-2014, 07:31 AM
Got paid ACH this morning for those who need to know!

SarahTime
09-06-2014, 10:57 AM
Got paid ACH this morning for those who need to know!

Damnit I was just coming to check.... I did not get my ACH yet!!! :( It's never taken this long even with plenty of Monday holidays.

anonymous camgirl
09-06-2014, 12:28 PM
I'm sure it depends on what bank you bank at.. mine is a very large bank maybe the same one as their's not sure? I dunno what bank they use.


Damnit I was just coming to check.... I did not get my ACH yet!!! :( It's never taken this long even with plenty of Monday holidays.

ConnyLove
09-06-2014, 01:37 PM
What about the girls getting paid through Payoneer ? Do you receive it on the 16th and on the 1st of each month or later?

tropo
09-06-2014, 02:27 PM
So if a guy stays for 2 minutes and 58 seconds he will be charged for only 2 mins ? No bueno.

No, what I'm saying is that the customer will be charged for 2 minutes and 58 seconds, but you will be paid for 2 minutes and Streamray will pocket the difference.

Yes, I'm pretty sure they do. Why else would they round your privates to the nearest minute?

I asked them the question (by email) more than 5 times before they begrudgingly gave me an answer - and the answer was pure bs just to get me off their back. They lied. They certainly don't round customers up to nearest minute... do you think they would charge a customer 2 minutes if he stayed 1 minute and 1 second. I doubt that very much.

SarahTime
09-06-2014, 02:31 PM
No, what I'm saying is that the customer will be charged for 2 minutes and 58 seconds, but you will be paid for 2 minutes and Streamray will pocket the difference.

Yes, I'm pretty sure they do. Why else would they round your privates to the nearest minute?

I asked them the question (by email) more than 5 times before they begrudgingly gave me an answer - and the answer was pure bs just to get me off their back. They lied. They certainly don't round customers up to nearest minute... do you think they would charge a customer 2 minutes if he stayed 1 minute and 1 second. I doubt that very much.

In that case, when I do the math, I'm always paid 3 mins. I pay attention to the timer on cams to verify how long they were in there, and I always see it rounded to the next minute and that is what I'm paid.

If they are in nude less than 1 minute, I am paid for 1 minute.... etc. I have had a couple guys complain about it actually, that they are charged 1 full minute at a time like as if I have control over it.

Fitandpretty
09-06-2014, 02:31 PM
Damnit I was just coming to check.... I did not get my ACH yet!!! :( It's never taken this long even with plenty of Monday holidays.

Mine hasn't either. It sucks because this one is a nice fat check too. Gimmie dat cash Cams

tropo
09-06-2014, 02:35 PM
In that case, when I do the math, I'm always paid 3 mins. I pay attention to the timer on cams to verify how long they were in there, and I always see it rounded to the next minute and that is what I'm paid.

If they are in nude less than 1 minute, I am paid for 1 minute.... etc.

Ok, so please explain exactly how they round your minutes.

If your private is 1 minute and 10 seconds....

If your private is 1 minutes and 30 seconds....

If you private is 1 minute and 45 seconds...

for example.

SoloDesire
09-06-2014, 02:35 PM
They certainly don't round customers up to nearest minute... do you think they would charge a customer 2 minutes if he stayed 1 minute and 1 second. I doubt that very much.

That's not how rounding works...1.1 would round to 1...1.31 would round to 2.

anonymous camgirl
09-06-2014, 02:36 PM
^^ I don't think that is correct Tropo.. I didn't read up on all the comments but I watch the time a lot cuz I every second is an eternity and I do believe we are getting paid for the full time when they are rounding up.. I'll have to check next time.

tropo
09-06-2014, 02:38 PM
In that case, when I do the math, I'm always paid 3 mins. I pay attention to the timer on cams to verify how long they were in there, and I always see it rounded to the next minute and that is what I'm paid.

If they are in nude less than 1 minute, I am paid for 1 minute.... etc.

Ok, so please explain exactly how they round your minutes:-

For example...

If your private is 1 minute and 10 seconds....

If your private is 1 minutes and 30 seconds....

If your private is 1 minute and 45 seconds...

I certainly couldn't get a straight answer from customer support no matter how hard I tried and I tried very hard.

SarahTime
09-06-2014, 02:41 PM
Ok, so please explain exactly how they round your minutes.

If your private is 1 minute and 10 seconds....

If your private is 1 minutes and 30 seconds....

If you private is 1 minute and 45 seconds...

for example.

2 minutes.

2 minutes.

2 minutes.

I'm online right now.... I just had a guy in private for 4 min 26 second.... my earnings show 5 minutes.

Haven't you ever noticed if a guy pops into nude chat for a split second, you are paid one full minute? Same for private too.

SarahTime
09-06-2014, 02:51 PM
Honestly I think if they were trying to pull one over on us, they wouldn't put a timer right in front of our face! Lol :)

SarahTime
09-06-2014, 02:59 PM
Just had another pvt... 3 min 10 sec earnings show 4 mins paid.

SoloDesire
09-06-2014, 03:07 PM
Just had another pvt... 3 min 10 sec earnings show 4 mins paid.

Well, that settles that! Lol

tropo
09-06-2014, 04:32 PM
^^ I haven't noticed anything. I stopped working after a few hours to inquire why my voyeur views were paid out at around 7.5% instead of the expected 29.25%. When my sales list says I was in voyeur view for a minute, I expect to be paid for a minute.

As I said, I got nothing but subterfuge from customer support. I have no evidence of what you claim as I didn't pay close attention to the duration of my privates, but certainly customer support weren't in a hurry to explain it to me. It was immediately after I noticed the per minute payout format I made my inquiries.

Perhaps they treat US citizens differently because you have legal recourse with a company based in the US. There's nothing I can do here in Asia if they choose to cheat me.

SarahTime
09-06-2014, 07:53 PM
^^ I haven't noticed anything. I stopped working after a few hours to inquire why my voyeur views were paid out at around 7.5% instead of the expected 29.25%. When my sales list says I was in voyeur view for a minute, I expect to be paid for a minute.

As I said, I got nothing but subterfuge from customer support. I have no evidence of what you claim as I didn't pay close attention to the duration of my privates, but certainly customer support weren't in a hurry to explain it to me. It was immediately after I noticed the per minute payout format I made my inquiries.

Perhaps they treat US citizens differently because you have legal recourse with a company based in the US. There's nothing I can do here in Asia if they choose to cheat me.

I think I remember a while back they had a discrepancy in one of the chat types paying less than it should have.... I do want to say it was voyeur view, maybe someone else remembers? But they ended up paying the difference to us, I got a credit automatically. I want to say they posted it as an announcement when it happened. Maybe this is what you were seeing?

A lot of times support doesn't know crap, they are just hired to give us copy and paste answers, so it's likely that support didn't even know the answer so they avoided answering.

tropo
09-07-2014, 12:01 AM
I think I remember a while back they had a discrepancy in one of the chat types paying less than it should have.... I do want to say it was voyeur view, maybe someone else remembers? But they ended up paying the difference to us, I got a credit automatically. I want to say they posted it as an announcement when it happened. Maybe this is what you were seeing?

A lot of times support doesn't know crap, they are just hired to give us copy and paste answers, so it's likely that support didn't even know the answer so they avoided answering.

It certainly did seem like they were hiding something, that's why I immediately ceased working and emailed them, Messing with payout and then not coming up with a quick resolution to obvious discrepancies in a reasonable period of time triggered alarm bells.

The actual concern was being paid only 60c for 4 minutes of voyeur view. My voyeur view was $1.99 per minute (default at the time), my payout percentage 29.25%. What they paid me works out to a percentage of 7.5%.

Yes, small money, but I wanted to have this sorted out before I continued to stream as it could have been a lot of money had I worked for weeks or months.

My first email about this concern was March 31. My last email was on August 13.

Here was the last email reply from [email protected]

RE: Bug #MSC-2145

Dear model,

Thank you for your contact. I have read your past contacts and Iapologize that you have had to wait for so long. I have contacted the devteam for an update and will respond to you here the moment I get anyinformation.

Thank you,

Reynaldo G.
Streamray Model_Escalation Support

That's the last time I heard from them.

I just counted my emails about this concern. I sent 9 between March 31 and August 14.

You should be able to understand why I walked away. Ironically, over that time period I did get several emails from them saying that they noticed I haven't been broadcasting. LOL.

I understand now that I may have been wrong about the per minute rounding up for pay, as you've demonstrated above, but this was my main problem, which was never resolved. As they have been so shifty over this concern, I assumed they were shifty all around.

SophieL
09-08-2014, 03:23 PM
So is anything allowed in nude chat? I have only been on a couple of times now but have read thru this thread repeatedly to get all their rules down lol and still confused by the site. lol start it and KinkLive within 2 days of each other.

SimoneGray
09-08-2014, 03:32 PM
How long on average does approval take?

JaneBurgess
09-08-2014, 04:03 PM
Yep you're right. They charge you a minute as soon as you step in the room. 2 minutes and 58 seconds is 3 minutes they are charged. This site charges the customers as they should be charged.




2 minutes.

2 minutes.

2 minutes.

I'm online right now.... I just had a guy in private for 4 min 26 second.... my earnings show 5 minutes.

Haven't you ever noticed if a guy pops into nude chat for a split second, you are paid one full minute? Same for private too.

TheBrownFox
09-08-2014, 06:50 PM
So is anything allowed in nude chat? I have only been on a couple of times now but have read thru this thread repeatedly to get all their rules down lol and still confused by the site. lol start it and KinkLive within 2 days of each other.
Yeah, I'm assuming you can pretty much do anything in Nude Chat. One thing I will tell you though. Earlier I was chatting with a former MFC reg (and he joined Cams under my referral link...YAY!!!) in Nude Chat, and when I tried to type "MFC" in the chat box, I believe the word "MFC" was automatically edited out...and some warning came up in the chat saying that what I'm discussing is "illegal." Yes, they actually used the term 'illegal' just for me mentioning MFC. *rolls eyes* Wow.....