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yoda57us
03-29-2011, 08:22 PM
I am surprised and amused that this thread has gone on for this long.

LOL, that pretty much sums up my feelings as well!

swalbr
03-30-2011, 06:15 AM
You dont HAVE to do anything. But the right thing to do would be to tell her because it sounds like she likes you. Im not about to get into any moral judgement here. How do you know she didnt lie when she said she was divorced? Maybe shes still married. I tell customers I am divorced all the time. Would you care that she lied to you?

This was the only post that actually tried to answer my question sort of. Can a dancer have real feelings for someone if she still accepts money from you, or are you always being played when money is involved? All I wanted was some insights. The responses could be:

a) No, because as long as she accepts money you are a customer.
b) Yes, true affection can be had even though money was exchanged.
c) Maybe, every situation is unique.

I gave a little background so people could respond in a more insightful way. Also, when I say we have "sex" ITC, it is NOT intercourse, but other intense stuff. The above poster tells her customers she is divorced. I'm assuming she does this to keep her customers fantasy going. I don't know why so many people are so quick to judge.

lemiwinks31
03-30-2011, 09:02 AM
Thank you, Father Lemiwinks, for that instructive sermon. ::)

In fact, I was so inspired by the thoughtful advice that you gave to swalbr that I myself am getting ready to rush home right now to repent and confess my own sins...

...or maybe not. ;)

my point was.....he is probably not married.....probably not having ITC sex with a stripper...probably not having OTC meetings.....I'm guessing the only truth to the story is that he is paying dancer and she is getting as much as she can....

mhi
03-30-2011, 09:10 AM
Too many inconsistencies..I've lost track of the number of different versions of this story.

SteveSmith
03-30-2011, 11:08 AM
This was the only post that actually tried to answer my question sort of. Can a dancer have real feelings for someone if she still accepts money from you, or are you always being played when money is involved? All I wanted was some insights. The responses could be:

a) No, because as long as she accepts money you are a customer.
b) Yes, true affection can be had even though money was exchanged.
c) Maybe, every situation is unique.


I provided the answer in post #166. :)

cherryblossomsinspring
03-30-2011, 02:53 PM
This was the only post that actually tried to answer my question sort of. Can a dancer have real feelings for someone if she still accepts money from you, or are you always being played when money is involved? All I wanted was some insights. The responses could be:

a) No, because as long as she accepts money you are a customer.
b) Yes, true affection can be had even though money was exchanged.
c) Maybe, every situation is unique.

I gave a little background so people could respond in a more insightful way. Also, when I say we have "sex" ITC, it is NOT intercourse, but other intense stuff. The above poster tells her customers she is divorced. I'm assuming she does this to keep her customers fantasy going. I don't know why so many people are so quick to judge.

I'm so lost here... what does this mean? From kiss to sex.....now it's not really sex.?

Oh yes I did think it was also funny one of the posts said so if you are lying to a stripper that you have a wife you're a dirty . But lying to your wife that you're cheating on her with a stripper didn't really seem to get any negative responses. Ok got this.

I think if he's paying for it , it some how makes him less of a douche. If he's using trickery to create a false view of being single to the stripper to make her give it to him for free then yes this would be more of an affair then a I'm paying to get laid moment.

Also to compare what a stripper says about being single or divorced to clients to what you're doing is just wrong. A stripper is working and she will usually make more money if the guy thinks she's available. It's about the money not about a romantic free connection she's trying to make. If she's taken or married most men would see her as filthy or foul even if they have wives sitting at home waiting patiently for their clean return from "the bar".

It's the typical double standard. Women is a stripper=whore ,slut and every other name under the sun whether or not she gives extras.
A male in this industry would be seen as a champ or stud.
Most men will want to fantasize that some day some how they will be able to have you all to their own. The money really just gives them more attention because for obvious reason why would a stripper spend time with a non paying customer? He would usually just get ignored and passed up for the man that is more than happy to spend.

What is odd is how a married man would ask if she's catching feelings when in reality he's in no position to really return them. Sounds a bit greedy, but you're cheating on your wife so I suppose greed had to start some where. Now you want two women to be in love with you?

I say try this on for size. Tell her 1. you're married and then 2. that you no longer want to pay . 3 . You want to have an all out affair for free. See how well that comes across.

Personally the money is what keeps it mentally legal in my head. If a guy that was married came at me for free I would be disgusted with him. Currently I have this problem with a client. Guy is old as dust and keeps trying to find ways to contact me off the site , but is cheap as hell and has a fiance. Will never happen gramps!

However the guy that wants to pay for a cam show is fine in my book. He's paying for a service which means his personal life has no barring on my conscience at all. No real woman want's to be the "other woman". For no woman wants to feel replaced by another. Pay for it and then all other information is of no concern.

Enjoy being her customer...anything more would be seriously foul. Also do not go on that trip with her unless you are looking to put money into it. Both of you also sound like you're pushing 50's so all of this information may not even be important at your ages. I really can't say.. how people feel about these things at that age. I suppose the other posters will have more insight into the matter.

Rookie2010
03-30-2011, 06:04 PM
I gave a little background so people could respond in a more insightful way. Also, when I say we have "sex" ITC, it is NOT intercourse, but other intense stuff..
Oh Yeah, that sounds so intense. LOL :D This is a joke.
You're allover the place on this one, make up your mind.
How about next time you want advice, write one singular post with all of the facts instead of 10 different ones with misinformation.

yoda57us
03-31-2011, 06:27 AM
I gave a little background so people could respond in a more insightful way. Also, when I say we have "sex" ITC, it is NOT intercourse, but other intense stuff. The above poster tells her customers she is divorced. I'm assuming she does this to keep her customers fantasy going. I don't know why so many people are so quick to judge.

Um, dude, you are not having sex with her ITC, you are getting high contact lap dances like everyone else. You want empathy and useful responses but you are BS'ing us at every turn.

The answer to all of your questions is and always will be a resounding "maybe"! Unfortunately, since you can't be honest with her, us or yourself you are most likely never going to know for sure.

swalbr
03-31-2011, 07:43 AM
Um, dude, you are not having sex with her ITC, you are getting high contact lap dances like everyone else. You want empathy and useful responses but you are BS'ing us at every turn.

The answer to all of your questions is and always will be a resounding "maybe"! Unfortunately, since you can't be honest with her, us or yourself you are most likely never going to know for sure.

I guess you're right. BBBJCIMWS is not sex. DATY,DFK and Digits either? Just INTENSE lap dances !!! Anyways, despite what ya think, this has been the ultimate fantasy for me. That's what I'm paying for isn't it? The fact that it's to this level is fantastic. She's also IMHO f'ing gorgeous. I think she enjoys it as well as she has multiple O's . (Probably fake but the wetness is a good trick). I know she's bullshitting me when she tells me I have a beautiful cock and asks if I enjoy her techniques or what she can do to make it better. She is the consumate pro. She tells me she says these things to everybody. I guess that's why she is so successful at what she does. I also get these great texts when she just bought new toys and was experimenting with them or of the husband and wife couple who she had an amazingly erotic session with. Why does she bore me with this minutia?? She told me she just bought her second investment condo for cash so I guess she must be good at what she does, poor thing. I hate taking such advantage of her.

No need for me to divulge personal stuff when PFP ITC though. I think she probably has "feelings" for me, but untill this is expressed in terms of non payment I will continue my awful behaviour. OTC will discontinue as I can see this may cause confusion. It's only been twice so far (Birthdays). I just wanted to go out with someone who I get along and have fun with, but I guess I was taking advantage of her as I wouldn't let her pay for dinner or made her feel she she should give me freebies OTC. Never offered, never asked. But I should be totally honest with her because all this is real life. Everyone on this board is always so upfront in this type of environment.


PS. Can you guys be a bit more direct in your responses. Don't beat around the bush. Don't need to be nice. Tell me what you really think. Hope everyone enjoys their own particular fantasies and encounters without spending all your retirement funds.

yoda57us
03-31-2011, 08:47 AM
I guess you're right. BBBJCIMWS is not sex. DATY,DFK and Digits either? Just INTENSE lap dances !!! Anyways, despite what ya think, this has been the ultimate fantasy for me. That's what I'm paying for isn't it?

Thank you once again for making my point...

Why do you have so much trouble just saying what it is that you are doing? For the record, most would consider what you are getting to be "extras" and your friend to be an extras girl. If you just laid it on the line from the start, bout everything, there would be no confusion.

By the way, I don't think anything. I'm not judging what you are doing with the dancer in question as far as what you are paying for and what she is giving you in return. If that's what you like and she is willing to provide it that's all good in my book. My problem here is with the apparent deception that you are engaging in with your dancer "friend".

swalbr
03-31-2011, 08:54 AM
Thank you once again for making my point...

Why do you have so much trouble just saying what it is that you are doing? For the record, most would consider what you are getting to be "extras" and your friend to be an extras girl. If you just laid it on the line from the start, bout everything, there would be no confusion.

By the way, I don't think anything. I'm not judging what you are doing with the dancer in question as far as what you are paying for and what she is giving you in return. If that's what you like and she is willing to provide it that's all good in my book. My problem here is with the apparent deception that you are engaging in with your dancer "friend".

Your problem is with deception? Buddy, this is NOT reality. When money is exchanged it's a form of entertainment. Everyone involved is partaking in the game. If either party does not realize this they're in the wrong business. Perhaps you are just a better person, I dunno.

rickdugan
03-31-2011, 09:57 AM
Your problem is with deception? Buddy, this is NOT reality. When money is exchanged it's a form of entertainment. Everyone involved is partaking in the game. If either party does not realize this they're in the wrong business. Perhaps you are just a better person, I dunno.

Inside the club I agree, but when she takes it off premises w/o a p4p arrangement, then [and read slowly]:

when - she - hangs - with - you - off - the - clock - it - is - reality.

Free dates count, so does travel where she foots her own bill. How many ways do we have to say this to you before you get it?

And in the interest of expediency, let's make sure we have a good basline for your other questions:
1. Is she playing you? No
2. Can a stripper have romantic feelings for a customer? Sure, why not? Is she not a human being?
3. [Added by me] Are you playing her? Yes, and you know it.

Any other questions you would like to ask the group? ::)

KS_Stevia
03-31-2011, 10:15 AM
I don't think she's into him emotionally, its all part of the act and he is a good reliable customer. Until this "trip" actually materialises, its all stripper shit. Going to dinners for free with valued and likeable clientele is pretty standard in most sales industries.

She prob knows your married already...unless you never ever wear your wedding ring. Everyone who wears wedding rings, it changes the skin tone and coloration of the skin under the ring.

rickdugan
03-31-2011, 10:40 AM
I don't think she's into him emotionally, its all part of the act and he is a good reliable customer. Until this "trip" actually materialises, its all stripper shit. Going to dinners for free with valued and likeable clientele is pretty standard in most sales industries.

She prob knows your married already...unless you never ever wear your wedding ring. Everyone who wears wedding rings, it changes the skin tone and coloration of the skin under the ring.

KS, I hear what you are saying, but girls that are already giving BBBJWCIM ITC typically don't need to go the extra mile to keep a regular on the hook. Also, he has already mentioned that he's not spending outrageous money on her.

You could be right, but it seems the me to be a coin toss at best and IMHO she has the right to be fully informed of the situation if she is going to spend her free time with him.

swalbr
03-31-2011, 12:07 PM
I don't think she's into him emotionally, its all part of the act and he is a good reliable customer. Until this "trip" actually materialises, its all stripper shit. Going to dinners for free with valued and likeable clientele is pretty standard in most sales industries.

She prob knows your married already...unless you never ever wear your wedding ring. Everyone who wears wedding rings, it changes the skin tone and coloration of the skin under the ring.

Exactly!!!!

KS_Stevia
03-31-2011, 04:04 PM
Then why did you join this thread? What were you asking for exactly?

Edit to add: do you two hook up when you take her out to dinner, or is the physical part just ITC? Not talking about a chaste kiss either...how hot n heavy is the passion when your out of the club and walking to the car after dinner.

SteveSmith
03-31-2011, 04:46 PM
swalbr is a troll. http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/26/thicontroll.gif



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Rookie2010
03-31-2011, 08:20 PM
Just because she sucks your dick for money and swallows your load doesn't mean she has any feelings for you,

I suggest stop being a pussy on a messageboard and just go out and fucking tell her what's up and how you want things to go and if she doesn't feel the same way, then eaither drop her of continue to let her suck you off for cash. trust me, i've also learned it's pretty easy to be upfront when paying with cash for what you want.

You see her OTC for FREE, next time just put all your cards on the table and see what happens. Fuck the wasting time on MSGboards looking for help, it's helpful a bit but most of the work you need to do comes from first-hand experience, get some.

Maybe it's because I'm fucked up ATM (maybe someone can go back) But didn't you say you've known her for 5-15 years??
GOD DAMN.. Just let it out dude. Tell her exactly what you want. And see what she says.


Maybe I'm interpreting it wrong but it seems like you have "real" feelings for this woman and you are wondering how she feels.

Jst be straight up.
You've spent too much time just "thinking, wondering and looking for advice"

BE A MAN OF ACTION, MY SON! (if you're not a troll, making this all up)
Stop being a pussy! Trust me i've been whre you are, definitely for not as long, I am at days when you are at years, LOL. But really man. Grab your sack and be a man!
Godspeed and best of luck, if all else fails, atleast you know you can get a nice BBJCIM (maybe even OTC, why havent you asked for this yet, DAMN MAN? she fucking swallows your load and you take her out OTC and act like a woman?? This girl isn't shy, obviously. stop being shy yourself) from a woman you like LOL

mediocrity
04-02-2011, 06:15 PM
Just because she sucks your dick for money and swallows your load doesn't mean she has any feelings for you,

I suggest stop being a pussy on a messageboard and just go out and fucking tell her what's up and how you want things to go and if she doesn't feel the same way, then eaither drop her of continue to let her suck you off for cash. trust me, i've also learned it's pretty easy to be upfront when paying with cash for what you want.

You see her OTC for FREE, next time just put all your cards on the table and see what happens. Fuck the wasting time on MSGboards looking for help, it's helpful a bit but most of the work you need to do comes from first-hand experience, get some.

Maybe it's because I'm fucked up ATM (maybe someone can go back) But didn't you say you've known her for 5-15 years??
GOD DAMN.. Just let it out dude. Tell her exactly what you want. And see what she says.


Maybe I'm interpreting it wrong but it seems like you have "real" feelings for this woman and you are wondering how she feels.

Jst be straight up.
You've spent too much time just "thinking, wondering and looking for advice"

BE A MAN OF ACTION, MY SON! (if you're not a troll, making this all up)
Stop being a pussy! Trust me i've been whre you are, definitely for not as long, I am at days when you are at years, LOL. But really man. Grab your sack and be a man!
Godspeed and best of luck, if all else fails, atleast you know you can get a nice BBJCIM (maybe even OTC, why havent you asked for this yet, DAMN MAN? she fucking swallows your load and you take her out OTC and act like a woman?? This girl isn't shy, obviously. stop being shy yourself) from a woman you like LOL

STANDING FUCKING OVATION!!!!

Obviously, this girl is a seasoned pro. I wouldn't get too mushy about it.

swalbr
04-03-2011, 07:32 AM
Just because she sucks your dick for money and swallows your load doesn't mean she has any feelings for you,

I suggest stop being a pussy on a messageboard and just go out and fucking tell her what's up and how you want things to go and if she doesn't feel the same way, then eaither drop her of continue to let her suck you off for cash. trust me, i've also learned it's pretty easy to be upfront when paying with cash for what you want.

You see her OTC for FREE, next time just put all your cards on the table and see what happens. Fuck the wasting time on MSGboards looking for help, it's helpful a bit but most of the work you need to do comes from first-hand experience, get some.

Maybe it's because I'm fucked up ATM (maybe someone can go back) But didn't you say you've known her for 5-15 years??
GOD DAMN.. Just let it out dude. Tell her exactly what you want. And see what she says.


Maybe I'm interpreting it wrong but it seems like you have "real" feelings for this woman and you are wondering how she feels.

Jst be straight up.
You've spent too much time just "thinking, wondering and looking for advice"

BE A MAN OF ACTION, MY SON! (if you're not a troll, making this all up)
Stop being a pussy! Trust me i've been whre you are, definitely for not as long, I am at days when you are at years, LOL. But really man. Grab your sack and be a man!
Godspeed and best of luck, if all else fails, atleast you know you can get a nice BBJCIM (maybe even OTC, why havent you asked for this yet, DAMN MAN? she fucking swallows your load and you take her out OTC and act like a woman?? This girl isn't shy, obviously. stop being shy yourself) from a woman you like LOL

Last time i saw her ITC she said I love you. I joked she says that to all her customers.(maybe she does) I know I can get it for free OTC, but that would end the fantasy for me and probably end our "relationship". As long as it's ITC and I'm payin I don't feel guilty.

yoda57us
04-03-2011, 07:37 AM
Last time i saw her ITC she said I love you. I joked she says that to all her customers.(maybe she does) I know I can get it for free OTC, but that would end the fantasy for me and probably end our "relationship". As long as it's ITC and I'm payin I don't feel guilty.

From her? Doubtful. The longer this thread goes on the more obvious it becomes that you are simply a good customer. She's not going to give you anything OTC that would cost her money inside the club.

swalbr
04-03-2011, 08:10 AM
From her? Doubtful. The longer this thread goes on the more obvious it becomes that you are simply a good customer. She's not going to give you anything OTC that would cost her money inside the club.


Agreed. If anything changes from previous post history, i'll let you know. This is the only place I can discuss this. Thanks for ALL comments thus far.

johnjdick
04-03-2011, 08:44 AM
Do you have any other ways that a stripper is going to meet you OTC for FREE? Unless your Brad Pitt then maybe. You think shes going to even look at you if you dont spend on her? I dont think anyone here can say that they didnt spend money on a dancer and met her OTC for free.
It sounds like you're putting these girls up on an unattainable pedestal. That is absolutely not the case. In fact, many of the girls I work with complain that they have relationship troubles. It's not always easy for them to find someone who doesn't have jealousy issues about where they work, or who sees them as more than just a walking piece of arm candy. Dating a stripper is a lot easier than many people might think, changing yourself into the type of person who can handle dating a stripper is the hard part. Oh, and any relationship that starts as a financial transaction will remain a financial transaction. If you're looking for something deeper than that, start the relationship on a different foot.

Of course, take my advice for what it is. I'm not one of these girls, so I can only give an outside perspective... albeit, a close outside perspective. I work as a DJ, which often includes these girls sitting up in the DJ booth for a couple hours talking about their personal issues. Sometimes I think my job description should include 'psychotherapist'.

rockie
04-03-2011, 09:03 AM
Rick: Did you really just give a newbie the same third degree you received yourself only a year ago on your introductory phase on SW? Troll, or no troll, I'm sorry I didn't have my popcorn buttered and ready to watch this play out in real time. Yoda: Given the Clinton denial of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, I do see room for a newcomer's confusion about what constitutes sex and ho hum "extras". Thanks to all for the entertainment!:D

Almost Jaded
04-03-2011, 03:16 PM
This thread = epic trainwreck

rickdugan
04-03-2011, 03:44 PM
Rick: Did you really just give a newbie the same third degree you received yourself only a year ago on your introductory phase on SW? Troll, or no troll, I'm sorry I didn't have my popcorn buttered and ready to watch this play out in real time.

No I did not Rockie. I don't care about that fact that he's getting his dick wet on the side. My issue is only with the theory that he would do so with someone who did not know that he is married.

Montrealais
04-12-2011, 06:20 AM
I been dating my atf for 6 months now and go to lunch and some dinner daets. I do compensate her time because I know for a fact she makes that if not more on the nights she works.

But lately shes been asking for things in a indirect way such as needing a pc or new phone.

She is new to the industry (8 months) and I know she has friends that tell her what to do because of the way she says it to me. Should I just drop her? Would she find a better customer than me? Would she even care?

For me it took awhile (lots of $$$ itc) to get her OTC and go to her condo to pick her up to go out.

Dancers any thoughts? (also I am just seeking friendship, some others here have said sex comes at the end of this does she brings this up?)

Very late to this thread, so I've only read the OP's post so far (lest I be missing big development here):

I kind of have a different perspective. Seems she's decided you're her sugar daddy. If you want to go that role, and can afford to, then to me the roles would change a bit more too. You get the implied right of expecting more in return. Otherwise you're just a sucker giving more and more and more for the same experience you had before.

I've only had one ATF, since now I move around from a few clubs and don't go often. Before, there was one near where I lived and I focused on this one dancer. Easily the hottest I'd ever seen in that club, but friendly and approachable. We often got lit in the booths and had loads of fun with her dances. I was making crazy money at the time and hadn't really figured out what my limits were.

After a few encounters and subsequent booths, she hinted that take out, or delivery were on the menu. I didn't jump that night, but I did eventually take her home after her shift and, to be blunt, I gave her her fee for her time, and we ended up having great sex. (Note, she was NOT dirty in the booths, or if so, eventually, only a very little. My cock never came out, for example. We just clicked, which I imagine was why she eventually offered.)

Kept seeing her in club for a bit, but soon I stopped going there (she was the reason why I liked it) and instead had her over now and then. Always the same rate, not discussed ever again, but over time it went for from say an hour, to however long she felt like staying, which often meant breakfast and sometimes hanging around the next day before she needed to work. Heading to a local pub or bistro, which I usually paid, but sometimes she insisted it was her treat.

Often there were party favors involved since we both liked to fuck in the snow. I usually provided, sometimes she did.

In short, monetarily for her it had become not "worth the money" but she kept coming, sometimes being the one to call me to hook up. It was kinda like boyfriend/girlfriend, except at intervals, and there was payment involved.

Would she have kept coming if I didn't pay the (couple hundred) dollars when she arrived? Sometimes I think she might have, but it was important to keep it that way, inserted a certain "it's business" layer that was emotionally healthy.

Eventually I moved, and we drifted off. Occasionally hear from her/call or email, but it's really as casual friends now, in the "how are you, what's up?" mold.

In retrospect we would have made a bad relationship couple, but we were great fuck friends. Just the right intimacy, none of the extended drama or expectations... Other than that couple hundred on the shelf by the door each visit.

Reading some of the other threads, I think I was pretty fortunate in her. I've never tried the same route with another girl.

Montrealais
04-12-2011, 06:32 AM
Sorry but this is simply not true. I see or have seen several dancers outside of the club without paying them for their time. Now, not all of my rendezvous are serious dating nor are they all sexual but, then again, neither is yours!

This! I've invited girls to "date" maybe the next day before her shift (went for Thai at a great place I'd been wanting to try, I paid, it was fun. Reading some of the other threads, I hope she wasn't too gassy that night! ;) )

I've asked a few girls for coffee or something if we were still nattering together as club got closing. Some agree, some decline.

I've been invited to come to her friend's place where a party will be after one night we were both playing in the snow, and it was that kinda mood. Ended up being wild, fun party, there was sex and drugs and rock and roll, but all kinda unplanned. She paid for the party favors, but we'd been enjoying mine in the booths, so call it even.

I've had a girl ask me to come with her for company while she had some ink done. Had some nice chats, and was interesting to see the inking process. No one paid, unless possibly going for some snack I don't remember now might have been involved.

Those said, none of that was intended to lead to anything but kisses on the cheek (this is Montreal!) and a "take care of yourself, hope to see you soon!"

swalbr
04-12-2011, 12:53 PM
very late to this thread, so i've only read the op's post so far (lest i be missing big development here):

I kind of have a different perspective. Seems she's decided you're her sugar daddy. If you want to go that role, and can afford to, then to me the roles would change a bit more too. You get the implied right of expecting more in return. Otherwise you're just a sucker giving more and more and more for the same experience you had before.

I've only had one atf, since now i move around from a few clubs and don't go often. Before, there was one near where i lived and i focused on this one dancer. Easily the hottest i'd ever seen in that club, but friendly and approachable. We often got lit in the booths and had loads of fun with her dances. I was making crazy money at the time and hadn't really figured out what my limits were.

After a few encounters and subsequent booths, she hinted that take out, or delivery were on the menu. I didn't jump that night, but i did eventually take her home after her shift and, to be blunt, i gave her her fee for her time, and we ended up having great sex. (note, she was not dirty in the booths, or if so, eventually, only a very little. My cock never came out, for example. We just clicked, which i imagine was why she eventually offered.)

kept seeing her in club for a bit, but soon i stopped going there (she was the reason why i liked it) and instead had her over now and then. Always the same rate, not discussed ever again, but over time it went for from say an hour, to however long she felt like staying, which often meant breakfast and sometimes hanging around the next day before she needed to work. Heading to a local pub or bistro, which i usually paid, but sometimes she insisted it was her treat.

Often there were party favors involved since we both liked to fuck in the snow. I usually provided, sometimes she did.

In short, monetarily for her it had become not "worth the money" but she kept coming, sometimes being the one to call me to hook up. It was kinda like boyfriend/girlfriend, except at intervals, and there was payment involved.

Would she have kept coming if i didn't pay the (couple hundred) dollars when she arrived? Sometimes i think she might have, but it was important to keep it that way, inserted a certain "it's business" layer that was emotionally healthy.

Eventually i moved, and we drifted off. Occasionally hear from her/call or email, but it's really as casual friends now, in the "how are you, what's up?" mold.

In retrospect we would have made a bad relationship couple, but we were great fuck friends. Just the right intimacy, none of the extended drama or expectations... Other than that couple hundred on the shelf by the door each visit.

Reading some of the other threads, i think i was pretty fortunate in her. I've never tried the same route with another girl.

very similar to my situation.

Sylvia
04-27-2011, 08:06 AM
If I go back to the club and start with a new girl she will get mad and all the work I did to build this fake relationship will go down the drain.

here is a suggestion....find a different place to meet women for relationships....fake or not.... ::)

lestat1
04-27-2011, 08:42 AM
Spectacular; I'm not the biggest PL ever. Whodda thunkit?

Hopper
04-27-2011, 08:59 AM
here is a suggestion....find a different place to meet women for relationships....fake or not.... ::)


I am in shape, make good money (6 figures) and I am 27.

Hmmm. :-\

Sylvia
04-27-2011, 10:12 AM
I am in shape, make good money (6 figures) and I am 27

then you should not have a problem meeting a "real" girlfriend outside of the club....so whats the problem?....or do you have some kind of obsession with strippers?

Almost Jaded
04-27-2011, 06:11 PM
I like montrealis' story. :)

markcaesar
04-30-2011, 11:58 AM
... Its all a business transaction and I understand that. She said if you want to go to dinner OTC she needs money for her time, and I agreed...

I think this is the crux of the problem. You walked into a strip club and met someone you like and spent a lot of money on her. She's a business woman. She wants to be paid for her time. If you don't see that this is not a normal relationship, then I don't think anyone here can help you.

If she had feelings for you, she wouldn't ask you to compensate her for her time. If she was afraid of losing you, she wouldn't ask you to buy her things that she could buy herself.

Get out of this as fast as you can. You're obviously a lot more invested in her than she is in you. And, when you walk into a strip club, don't pretend that it's a library or a grocery store or anywhere else you'd expect to meet a woman you'd like to spend quality time with (not money on).

Just my two cents. :-\