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rickdugan
03-25-2011, 06:28 PM
As has been well chronicled here, for the past year I have been visiting a girl, who I have referred to as Sexy Italian on this board, at a local club when I am not traveling for work. At first I visited her now and then simply because I enjoyed her company, but for the last 9 months or so I have been seeing her after hours fairly regularly for p4p.

This arrangement has been a lot of fun, but as with all good things I am starting to become a little fatigued by the repetition. Also, she is now down to working 2-3 shifts per week, so while she is ALWAYS open to an after hours stop on the nights she works, those nights do not always work well for me.

Now one might simply say that it is time to search for another fav, but it is not really that simple. The last time I found something else that caught my eye, a lot of drama erupted, so much in fact that the other girl that I liked ended up leaving the club for a few months. And while I, of course, could always just move to another club, my tendency to enjoy my cocktails with titties makes this club, by far, the safest local option.

Now, however, another girl has caught my eye. She is a young Russian girl who I will refer to as Anne (not her name but it seems to fit her). Anne is young and very pretty in a girl next door way. And her body is exactly what I like - small tight top, flat stomach and flaring hips. She has very fair skin, highlighted with bleach blonde hair, but with a sexy, curvy body that would rival some of the hottest Latinas that I have seen.

Now most of the staff members in this club believe that I don't like Russians, which is mostly true, but Anne has been a treat. An accent that seems harsh coming from most girls sounds sweet and exotic coming from her. She has also been pushing my buttons a bit ITC, one moment seeming sweet and demure and seconds later getting very close to me at the bar, often even draping her legs over mine. I even enjoy her lapdances, which are filled with raw sexuality, and I normally hate lapdances. In a nutshell, this girl has gotten my jets going in a way that no girl has in quite some time.

Things have been going well with Anne and, in fact, we now have an OTC event planned involving dinner and a Broadway show which she has always wanted to see (and for which I have promised excellent seats). However, since Anne agreed to this she has also become more territorial. I have been seeing Anne on nights that Sexy Italian does not work, and vice versa, and this has been fine except that it further limits the nights that I can visit this club. And it is only a matter of time before Sexy Italian hears about my repeat visits to Anne as the DJ has been feeding Sexy Italian intel about my activities on nights that she is not there.

Finally, I do not want to end things with Sexy Italian until my thing with Anne solidifies. Also, since Anne comes in from Brooklyn with other Russian girls (which is common in NYC clubs that use Russians), my after work rendezvous with Sexy Italian would be hard to replace with Anne as she can only meet on her nights off, where Sexy Italian is available on any night that she works.

This is a quandary. Hell, I might even be able to have them both, but I am threading the needle a bit here and hate the fact that I can only visit the club on nights where they are not both working.

We shall see how this plays out.

jester214
03-25-2011, 08:08 PM
Sounds like potential fire, but if anyone can handle it I think its you.

lopaw
03-25-2011, 09:29 PM
Oy! :O

You DO like your extreme sports, eh, rick?! ;D


From the sounds of it, this could turn REAL ugly REAL fast once Sexy Italian girl gets wind of things......good luck & keep us posted!

Vyanka
03-25-2011, 10:42 PM
None of these ladies should be territorial. They should know that.

jester214
03-25-2011, 10:57 PM
None of these ladies should be territorial. They should know that.

All I can say is "lolz".

Knowing and doing are two very different things.

bem401
03-26-2011, 03:36 AM
If your intention is to switch faves, I would suggest you explain the situation to the newer of the two girls and gauge her reaction. At least then, she won't be caught off-guard if and when the shit hits the fan.

59
03-26-2011, 05:29 AM
This is a quandary. Hell, I might even be able to have them both, but I am threading the needle a bit here and hate the fact that I can only visit the club on nights where they are not both working.

We shall see how this plays out.

Sounds like walking a tight-rope. What happens when Sexy Italian decides to take matters into her own hands (rather than listen to the DJ) and work an Anne only night? Good luck.

Sam Pepys
03-26-2011, 03:30 PM
I guess I'm always concerned sexy Russians aren't tied to thug Russians. Two, as you know there's no way sexy Italian doesn't hear of developments with Anne through club intel -- in fact, I'm surprised she already hasn't.
In truth, I think you there's some part of you that likes the uncertainty of your situation. No way this is going to end well.

lopaw
03-26-2011, 06:52 PM
None of these ladies should be territorial. They should know that.


I wish this were true.
I have been in predicaments similar to rick's and the only way I could keep my sanity was to stop seeing both dancers and go to a different club for awhile. I gave it enough time so that at least one of the dancers had quit and moved on to a new club herself.

As a custy (sorry bem), it sucks to have to do that, but the cattiness & possessiveness will totally ruin the club experience for us. I would rather walk away than endure a potentially explosive situation in the club :-\.

rickdugan
03-26-2011, 07:46 PM
I have been in predicaments similar to rick's and the only way I could keep my sanity was to stop seeing both dancers and go to a different club for awhile. I gave it enough time so that at least one of the dancers had quit and moved on to a new club herself.

As a custy (sorry bem), it sucks to have to do that, but the cattiness & possessiveness will totally ruin the club experience for us. I would rather walk away than endure a potentially explosive situation in the club :-\.

My experiences in the local fav thing are not nearly as deep as yours, but given what I have seen from this girl and her friends in the past I doubt that she would take this stoicly. For that matter, I go through a version of this even in some of my road clubs when a girl that I have previously taken OTC sees me walk back in.

I think the OTC dynamic plays a role, for a couple of reasons:

1st, it pushes up the $$$ at stake by a lot. When I visit Sexy Italian she knows her night has just been made. And when I walk into one of my road clubs, any girl that I've previously taken OTC remembers that she got paid well the last time she saw me. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly tossing handfuls of Benjamins around, but between what I pay for OTC and the money I tip them during the pre-OTC club visit, the cash in play is real.

2nd, some of these girls may be concerned that if I get too cozy with other girls in their clubs then I might blab about what I did with them. Now of course this would never happen, but, particularly with a road club girl, how can some dancer that has met me only once before really know that?

Anyway, we shall see. I really don't want to leave this club if I do not have to, so I am giving it a try, but frankly I don't like my odds on this one at all.

yoda57us
03-26-2011, 09:30 PM
Been nice knowin' ya' rick!

lopaw
03-26-2011, 09:42 PM
Been nice knowin' ya' rick!

;D



.......but frankly I don't like my odds on this one at all.


Right now Vegas puts you at 30-1 odds that you'll NOT wind up with a stripper shoe embedded somewhere on your person }:D

rickdugan
03-27-2011, 06:48 AM
Been nice knowin' ya' rick!


;D

Right now Vegas puts you at 30-1 odds that you'll NOT wind up with a stripper shoe embedded somewhere on your person }:D

Damn you both for being right. :P

There are other dynamics in play here that may make this situation different, but who knows how this will play out. The last time the drama started it involved another American girl. These Russian girls are tight and even have a dancer who also serves as their crew chief, so Sexy Italian's friends might not be eager to stir it up this time. The Russians far outnumber the American girls in this club and I strongly suspect that they would band together against any girl coming after one of them.

But frankly I agree with Vyanka in that it is ridiculous that I even need to think about this shit, but there it is. :-\

rickdugan
03-27-2011, 06:52 AM
In truth, I think you there's some part of you that likes the uncertainty of your situation.

Actually not even a little. I just want to do my thing without drama, but that seems to be difficult in these circumstances.

yoda57us
03-27-2011, 07:22 AM
Damn you both for being right. :P

Trust me I feel your pain rick. I've been through everything from silent treatments to being lied about behind my back to having one fav try to get another deported! It's the primary reason why I have about six clubs in my rotation, a fav or two in each that I am generous with but by no means a sugar daddy with, and I rarely look for new girls. I'm pretty happy and drama free. The only time it's a hassle is when a gal retires or, heaven forbid, moves to a club where I already have a fav!



But frankly I agree with Vyanka in that it is ridiculous that I even need to think about this shit, but there it is. :-\

Agreed but, as we all know, it's just not reality when there are personalities, egos and money at stake.

Good luck...

JoeUnCool
03-28-2011, 06:39 AM
Getcha popcorn out for this one.

rickdugan
03-28-2011, 11:31 AM
I think I'm going to back away from the club this week and let it all settle a bit.

JoeUnCool
03-28-2011, 11:39 AM
I think I'm going to back away from the club this week and let it all settle a bit.

A wise move.

fast tan77
03-29-2011, 10:34 AM
How about proposing a 3-some and see who blinks?

KS_Stevia
03-29-2011, 04:28 PM
None of these ladies should be territorial. They should know that.

Agreed. I've never had this issue but other girls have had problems with me. I didn't want my shit ruined or my face bashed in so I'd prefer to bow out. Significant money was not a concern because I kept my mouth shut at all times about my matters.


I guess I'm always concerned sexy Russians aren't tied to thug Russians. .

Stop watching so many movies.


How about proposing a 3-some and see who blinks?

HOT, then everyone would profit. I had an OTC 3some buddy back in the day...well it only happened a few times. But it was awesome because I really liked her and she was hot.

jester214
03-29-2011, 07:26 PM
Stop watching so many movies.

Really? I've seen more than a few sexy eastern europeans get picked up in groups by some very thuggish looking eastern europeans... Maybe it's not the norm but it does happen, and like somebody else said, it's always in my mind.

lopaw
03-29-2011, 08:58 PM
I think I'm going to back away from the club this week and let it all settle a bit.


Tis wise, methinks. ;D

rickdugan
03-30-2011, 07:00 PM
As another twist to this little tale, Young Lithe Hottie is also sensing my growing discontent with Sexy Italian and is now trying to make her own move.

For those that don't know, Young Lithe Hottie is a girl that I also tried to get to know last summer when things were just heating up with Sexy Italian. She is ridiculously sexy with a body and attitude that would make you want to do all sorts of bad things, but I was forced to choose and Sexy Italian came out on top. In the process and as was well chonicled on here, however, Sexy Italian's friends hounded her so badly (over other issues besides just little ol' me) that Young Lithe Hottie actually left the club for a few months, but she has been back for a while now.

Since she has been back, however, she has been friendly, but also careful not to look like she was trying to get too cozy. Then, just last night night, she sat me while Sexy Italian was in the bathroom and said, "If you'd like to sit with me the next time you come in, I'm working on XXX." I replied, "But so is Sexy Italian" with a smile and one eyebrow raised. She responded with, "Yeah, but I think you're getting tired of her." I'll say one thing, Young Lithe Hottie has brass balls - lol.

I suspect that this sudden renewed interest is due to the fact that she's seen me visiting Anne during some of Sexy Italian's off nights. Now the real question is: What is Young Lithe Hottie willing to do to steal me away? From my previous interactions with her, she generally knows my gig. I also know that she strongly suspects that Sexy Italian is meeting my needs, though she cannot be sure as I've never blabbed and we've been discreet. :-X

I have to admit that it would be hard to resist an opportunity for OTC with a ridiculously sexy wild child like Young Lithe Hottie. }:D

It is going to take some delicacy to sort this all out, but I'm going to give it a shot.

countedcrow
03-31-2011, 03:15 AM
I'd like to have a front row seat to watch how this goes down. Now I would certainly be rooting for a favorable outcome for you, but I have to admit watching it fall apart and any resulting fireworks that go along with that would be much more entertaining.;D


How about proposing a 3-some and see who blinks?

At this point in time this could be the best advice so far...I mean the worst thing they could say is "no", right?;)

Good luck, and keep us informed with the play by play.

yoda57us
03-31-2011, 06:44 AM
I suspect that this sudden renewed interest is due to the fact that she's seen me visiting Anne during some of Sexy Italian's off nights. Now the real question is: What is Young Lithe Hottie willing to do to steal me away? From my previous interactions with her, she generally knows my gig. I also know that she strongly suspects that Sexy Italian is meeting my needs, though she cannot be sure as I've never blabbed and we've been discreet.

In my opinion this is where the real issue lies. Suspecting and knowing are two different things (though the former is certainly enough to stir-up dressing room gossip). All you can do is be discrete, as you have been. Any dancer who's been around for a while knows the risks her reputation takes if she starts seeing customers OTC. It is possible to keep it a complete secret but that's rare as most girls aren't careful enough about the logistics.

jester214
03-31-2011, 05:13 PM
At this point in time this could be the best advice so far...I mean the worst thing they could say is "no", right?;)

Good luck, and keep us informed with the play by play.

Now that he has a third option? Hmm...

Perhaps this might be the best move. }:D

rickdugan
03-31-2011, 07:03 PM
A threesome. Hmmm... :thinking:

I'm not really sure about the real OTC potential for either of the other two at this point, so thinking like this would be putting the cart before the horse.

Heck, even if I do manage to score one of the other two, I have no idea how I would even broach that topic. Maybe something like, "By the way, I'm fucking her too, so why don't we just make it a party?!" :D LOL.

For discretion and potential rivalry reasons, it would have to be something suggested by one of the girls, which was the case with the few that I have done. I think that it would be tough in many clubs for a guy who happens to be fucking two different dancers to try to engineer this.

But I like the thought. ;)

rickdugan
03-31-2011, 07:07 PM
In my opinion this is where the real issue lies. Suspecting and knowing are two different things (though the former is certainly enough to stir-up dressing room gossip). All you can do is be discrete, as you have been. Any dancer who's been around for a while knows the risks her reputation takes if she starts seeing customers OTC. It is possible to keep it a complete secret but that's rare as most girls aren't careful enough about the logistics.

Agreed. And in tipping my hand in terms of what it would actually take to steal me away, I run the risk of implicating Sexy Italian in bad acts. It is a quandry.

Smokeless
04-04-2011, 11:31 PM
Good grief, Rick! I wish I had such problems.

Seriously, if a third dancer has noticed the new dynamics, all three know.

I have one club I frequent. I share the wealth among four dancers. There's no p4p and no OTC (except an occasional coffee with one of the dancers when in Denver), so the dynamic is very different. Nonetheless, when the issue has come up with one or the other, they all seem to be quite cool. Just as long as the money keeps flowing.

rickdugan
04-07-2011, 09:51 PM
Well, Anne and I have an OTC date planned for next week. I am indeed taking her to a Broadway show, with premium seats included. This will be preceded by dinner at a fine NYC Italian restaurant.

Now one never truly knows if an OTC event will happen without a hitch, but I get a real sense that she is serious about this. She has been the one pursuing this, so I am guessing that she is simply looking for a luxurious night, which is no doubt nothing close to how she lives in her borough.

This should be interesting. I will, of course, share whether I have a great night, crash and burn or anything in between.

RD

rickdugan
04-13-2011, 02:28 PM
Well, Anne and I have an OTC date planned for next week. I am indeed taking her to a Broadway show, with premium seats included. This will be preceded by dinner at a fine NYC Italian restaurant.

As will come as no surprise, radio silence on the day of the event. ;) Now I am not overly surprised as these silly games seem to be the MO of some of the girls in this club, but she could have saved us both the trouble as I did not spend any more on her ITC than I would have otherwise.

Gotta' love this local fav shit. I pick up girls in a variety of places around the country on same night visits, but somehow building reliable connections in this local club takes multiple false starts, dodges, and other BS. I guess that Sexy Italian is not going to be replaced so quickly after all.

I just got back from a road trip and already I want another one. :P

59
04-13-2011, 02:55 PM
Wow...were you able to make use of the tickets at least?

bem401
04-13-2011, 04:00 PM
Seems to me this is not so much about switching faves as it is about initiating OTC or RL interaction or whatever you considered this, but it will be interesting to hear the girl's explanation for her disappearance on the big day should you even be able to get one.

lopaw
04-13-2011, 07:54 PM
As will come as no surprise, radio silence on the day of the event. ;) Now I am not overly surprised as these silly games seem to be the MO of some of the girls in this club, but she could have saved us both the trouble as I did not spend any more on her ITC than I would have otherwise.

Gotta' love this local fav shit. I pick up girls in a variety of places around the country on same night visits, but somehow building reliable connections in this local club takes multiple false starts, dodges, and other BS. I guess that Sexy Italian is not going to be replaced so quickly after all.

I just got back from a road trip and already I want another one. :P



Women.
Ay-yi-yi-yi-yi!
;)

yoda57us
04-13-2011, 08:46 PM
Gotta' love this local fav shit. I pick up girls in a variety of places around the country on same night visits, but somehow building reliable connections in this local club takes multiple false starts, dodges, and other BS. I guess that Sexy Italian is not going to be replaced so quickly after all.


You've just pretty much summed up my reason for calling escorts...

rickdugan
04-14-2011, 01:48 PM
Seems to me this is not so much about switching faves as it is about initiating OTC or RL interaction or whatever you considered this, but it will be interesting to hear the girl's explanation for her disappearance on the big day should you even be able to get one.

Well, for me a fav and OTC girl are generally the same thing as one does not become my fav otherwise.

In terms of her excuse, I have no doubt that a cell phone got lost, an unexpected last minute emergency arose, or something else happened that made it impossible for her to give me a heads up. ;)


You've just pretty much summed up my reason for calling escorts...

No doubt that calling an escort is more efficient, but for all of the reasons previously discussed in earlier threads I find dancer OTC to fit much more with what I am looking for. These occasional speed bumps and detours simply come with the territory.

Now it would be nice if it was as easy to pull of locally as it is in many of the road clubs that I travel to, but there it is.

yoda57us
04-14-2011, 02:04 PM
Now it would be nice if it was as easy to pull of locally as it is in many of the road clubs that I travel to, but there it is.

I think the "local" aspect is part of the problem and, again, the reason why, while I certainly don't turn down any offers, I don't waste a lot of time, angst and head games trying to get dancers to do OTC with me. I know what your preference is rick and I also understand why. I do however think it works better in clubs where one is not a "weekly" type of regular.

The girls in a club that you may only visit a few times a year seem to know why you are there and they also know that they are not going to cultivate you as a regular source of income week-to-week by giving you the old "OTC tease". It's either put out or shut up, as it where, and you seem to have the right approach to separate the poseurs from the players in your road clubs.

Inside a local club is an entirely different story. There are girls who make a very profitable career out of making guys think they will date them or have sex with them with no intention of ever doing it. Then there are the ones who will do it eventually but you are going to have to juggle schedules and egos if you want to do it with more than one girl in the same club. It's good that you are up for the game because these ladies are very good at it!

yoda57us
04-14-2011, 03:04 PM
Well, Anne and I have an OTC date planned for next week. I am indeed taking her to a Broadway show, with premium seats included. This will be preceded by dinner at a fine NYC Italian restaurant.


By the way, style points for at least planning a great night! :thumbsup:

rickdugan
04-14-2011, 07:09 PM
By the way, style points for at least planning a great night! :thumbsup:

LOL thanks, but I can't take credit as the show was her idea. However, the next time I plan a first-time OTC event I'll make sure to avoid anything that requires an advance purchase. ;)


I think the "local" aspect is part of the problem and, again, the reason why, while I certainly don't turn down any offers, I don't waste a lot of time, angst and head games trying to get dancers to do OTC with me. I know what your preference is rick and I also understand why. I do however think it works better in clubs where one is not a "weekly" type of regular.

I agree with a lot of this.

To be clear though, she was the one who proposed this little adventure. When I'm the one doing the pushing, I'm thinking about a four star hotel with perhaps a nice dinner involved. With the dynamics I am dealing with in this local club, including potential exposure relating to Sexy Italian, I had been taking things slow and had not reached that point yet.

I'm not sure what she was thinking when she made the offer, but there it is. All she did was hurt herself with me, without really getting much upside. :shrug:

magicrat
04-15-2011, 07:12 AM
Rick,
Maybe it's the old story "you don't shit where you eat" with these gals as well. My current otc fav never wants to meet in her hometown, but is willing to drive an hour or so to meet me for our trysts, even if I'm willing to come to her. Somehow I'm thinking you will recover from this :)

rickdugan
04-19-2011, 07:52 PM
As an update, I received an elaborate story from Anne that involved a fall and her breaking and replacing her cell phone. ;)

Now the story got a little garbled in places. She supposedly replaced the phone that day and received my text messages, but was unable to reach me when she tried to call. Funny, but I had my cell on me all day and had no missed calls from her. She then further went on to say that I shared the blame for not texting her the specific time and location.

The whole time I simply nodded with a bemused smile. In intervals, she kept repeating "I don't want you to be mad at me", even as I just sat there placidly smiling.

But the kicker is that she is pushing hard for me to try again. Seriously? :P

Too funny.

Smokeless
04-19-2011, 09:12 PM
^^^ They always want you on the hook. Just one more strategy.

I can't even count the number of times I've made arrangements to meet (ITC) with a number of gals, only to wait, or get an excuse, or whatever.

More recently I've gravitated toward those dancers who reliably show up when they say they will, and when I show up on time are immediately available without them spending an hour to "freshen up."

rickdugan
04-20-2011, 06:09 AM
^I suspect that this is indeed her strategy, but it has not worked out well for her so far. I've generally been avoiding the club since this happened.

Now I don't mind a little bit of stringalong if I'm having fun with a girl. Hell, Sexy Italian dodged me for a few months before the OTC chase began in earnest, and it took me another 2 months before I finally landed her, but I continued to visit and spend on her because I enjoyed her company. I would have done the same with this one.

However, once a girl does agree to an OTC event, my patience wears thin for bailouts. What was perplexing about this particular incident is that it was she, not I, who proposed it and she really didn't get much out of me up to this point. She also knows that there is a lot of money going to another girl in the club (though she does not know exactly how much and for what) and that I'm considering a switch.

Net-net, her game isn't making a whole lot of sense right now, but there it is.

rickdugan
07-19-2011, 04:53 PM
As yet another update, until a couple of weeks ago it had been a few months since I had spent anything on Anne, but over the last few weeks I spent maybe a few hundred on her over a couple of visits. Nothing to write home about, but I have been cautious since the last debacle. Meanwhile, she has continued to push for a retry, even during the period of time that I was not spending on her.

I am seriously considering giving Anne another shot. I believe that these last few months have been instructive for her as she has watched me continue to spend on Sexy Italian. Not only has she turned up the heat dramatically ITC, but she continues to lobby hard for a retry and very much understands what it will mean if she pulls another no show/no call. I am also getting a bit fatigued with Sexy Italian, who I have now been seeing for p4p on and off for a year.

We shall see. A few additional interesting tidbits relating to this situation and club:

1. Young Lithe Hottie has bowed out. She now seems to understand what it would take to steal me from Sexy Italian and she's not really game for it.

2. It used to be that every dancer in the club thought that I was "owned" by Sexy Italian, and the American girls continue to believe this, but now the Russian contingent believes that I am Anne's customer. Argh! At least before Anne a few of the Russians would still take runs at me, but now I am considered someone's property by virtually every girl in the club! I happened to go in the other night when neither girl was working and not a single girl would come near me! In fact, even during the frenzied 2-4-1 promos, I was an island in the stream and girls who did not sell their dances would sit down rather than pitch me.

3. To further add to the unreality of all of this, a couple of the girls now actually use me as the "safe guy" when they want to be seen sitting with a guy without actually having to work. Seriously, me, the safe guy. After all, not only am I a nice guy and an established regular, but nobody can pitch me anyway since I belong to Sexy Italian/Anne, so they come over and bitch about one thing or another. Un-fucking-real.

4. Right now I visit Anne on one of the slow nights when the regular staff, and virtually all of the American girls, do not work. This is the only way that I can see Anne without word getting back to Sexy Italian. As irritating as this is, it is the only way I can work on engineering a switch without drama.

I know that my best solution would be to simply leave this club, but as I said before it is very convenient for me. Also, as a matter of principle, I am going to do what I want whether someone else likes it or not.

Chili Palmer
07-19-2011, 08:19 PM
I am seriously considering giving Anne another shot. I believe that these last few months have been instructive for her as she has watched me continue to spend on Sexy Italian. Not only has she turned up the heat dramatically ITC, but she continues to lobby hard for a retry and very much understands what it will mean if she pulls another no show/no call. I am also getting a bit fatigued with Sexy Italian, who I have now been seeing for p4p on and off for a year.


Thanks for the update...just understand, once you nail Anne, the first thing she will do is tell Sexy Italian. Guaranteed, based on the competitive nature of this game so far.

Have fun!

CP

SweetNaughty
07-19-2011, 09:00 PM
This whole thread sounds like an Adult industry episode of the Twilight Zone! ;)

JoeUnCool
07-20-2011, 12:15 PM
Thanks for the update...just understand, once you nail Anne, the first thing she will do is tell Sexy Italian. Guaranteed, based on the competitive nature of this game so far.

Have fun!

CP

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rickdugan
07-25-2011, 04:34 AM
LOL Joe.

CP, I agree with you in principle. Given the conservative nature of the club I doubt that she'll tell Sexy Italian exactly what happened, but I do believe she will no longer be satisfied with playing backup girl to Sexy Italian, which is more or less what is happening now.

I need to be careful here. I don't want to get Sexy Italian in the soup with the Russian girls. The last time that I saw an American dancer get into it with one of these Russian dancers she had a problem with ALL of them. These girls come to the club together in the same van and most definitely have each others' backs. If I do hit it, then I will probably need to let Sexy Italian know that I will also be spending time with Anne at the club so that she doesn't get sandbagged and react badly.

Anne put on the full court press last night for a meeting and I just couldn't say no anymore. ;) And, before I had the chance to ask her what her expectations were, she told me that she did not want to be paid for this and that she wanted a "date." She wants to be picked up at her apartment and brought into Manhattan for a night out, which will include dinner and a show.

Taking a page out of someone else's play book, I made it clear to her that she doesn't need to promise to see me OTC in order for me to visit with her now and again. She claims that she really wants this and that she will show, even after I made it clear to her that I will no longer be visiting if she agrees to this and pulls another no show/no call.

Other than a damned fun night out with Sexy Italian, I have never had an OTC event that went much beyond p4p in my hotel room, so this should be interesting. I will admit that I'm not sure what her angle is yet, and I have been clear about what my expectations are in an OTC encounter, but I'm going to ride this out and see where it goes.

safado
07-25-2011, 06:49 PM
Recently I had a regular that I had been doing OTC with for a few months. About two months ago she quit the club but continued with the OTC sessions with me. Last month I figured that the coast was clear to got to the club to find other OTC possibilities, I ended up getting a couple of dances. The next morning I got a text saying "I heard you were at the club last night". It did not take long for word to get out that I was at the club.

yoda57us
07-26-2011, 06:21 PM
They always know...