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tempest666
03-31-2011, 11:26 PM
Case in point. Guy comes in with his wife/girlfriend/baby mama/domestic partner. He doesn't bother looking or tipping anyone that she feels threatened by (yours truly)

As soon as she leaves, he starts tipping me 5's and 10's. -_-

Rabid bitches frothing at the mouth need to be quarantined and contained.

WorkerBee
03-31-2011, 11:39 PM
I hate hanging out with broads.
Lord, this is the only way I get to hang out with my homeboys.

Me: "Shit........lets go to Mike's Crossroads."
Homeboys: "Hell yeah!!!"

subspace1980
04-03-2011, 04:53 PM
I just have to respond to this thread:

I was a dancer (in an area, by the way, with full nude spread shows and alcohol, so I was very exposed). I haven't set foot in a strip club since 2005...but...I would love to check some out as a customer.

Possibly alone. I have a male partner, but he may not always be available for my excursions. (He's more than cool with my fascination with the adult industry, by the way.)

I'm a woman. I'm bisexual. I'm respectful. I know what dancers face and would not be there to laugh or act holier-than-thou. I would respect dancers' time and spend money. I just enjoy watching sexy women dance. I love the art of it.

So I should be banned?

Well, if we ban women for being cheap and annoying, we should ban a hell of a lot of the men as well.

jasmine22
04-03-2011, 05:33 PM
I just have to respond to this thread:

I was a dancer (in an area, by the way, with full nude spread shows and alcohol, so I was very exposed). I haven't set foot in a strip club since 2005...but...I would love to check some out as a customer.

Possibly alone. I have a male partner, but he may not always be available for my excursions. (He's more than cool with my fascination with the adult industry, by the way.)

I'm a woman. I'm bisexual. I'm respectful. I know what dancers face and would not be there to laugh or act holier-than-thou. I would respect dancers' time and spend money. I just enjoy watching sexy women dance. I love the art of

Well, if we ban women for being cheap and annoying, we should ban a hell of a lot of the men as well.. I think ladies night once a week is good. That way girls can check it out but see dancers are different from regular female customers. U know the game and how to act other girls don't. Again ladies night once a week.... Actually couples night.

tampadancer
04-03-2011, 05:45 PM
Sure, let's have a ladies night...so I know when to NOT work.

And to subspace - you are not the norm. Having been a dancer, you know better than to act the way a lot of female patrons do.

kaiarose
04-03-2011, 05:51 PM
Sure, let's have a ladies night...so I know when to NOT work.

And to subspace - you are not the norm. Having been a dancer, you know better than to act the way a lot of female patrons do.

Actually maybe a ladies night would be a good idea. Only ONE night we would have to deal with women. Instead of the constant stream that's been happening. Of course like you Tamapdancer, I'd opt not to work. There are girl dancers that do great with female custy's, so they can work those nights.

Vyanka
04-03-2011, 06:19 PM
I don't mind that one respectable cool chic escorted by her spending SO who want to spend their night in vip w a fav. This I love and don't mind, but it's rare.

I HATE the groups of chics. Or the group of ppl that have a a girl or more. It should not be allowed. Fuck no. It definately kills the vibe. Plus they act like it's a dance night club, instead of a strip club. I hate seeing them dance on the floor. UGH.

tempest666
04-04-2011, 12:08 AM
After tonight, I say keep em in quarantine like the rabid bitches they are. This drunk bitch finds there is someone in the women's restroom, walks into the MEN'S room, drops her drawers and proceeds to squat in the urinal.

The bouncer tells her to get out of the men's room when she starts arguing, calling all the dancers pigs. (funny considering the muffin top poking out of her jeans)

Yeah, they're more trouble than they're worth. Ban em or quarantine em.

subspace1980
04-04-2011, 09:45 AM
Sure, let's have a ladies night...so I know when to NOT work.

And to subspace - you are not the norm. Having been a dancer, you know better than to act the way a lot of female patrons do.


I'm aware of this. Unfortunately.

It's hard to be the exception...

I don't fault anyone who is pissed off at female customers and doesn't want to work with them. It just bothers me that men can be cheap and be assholes...but unless they do something so extreme as to get themselves kicked out and/ or banned, they're free to go into any club. The clubs are for them, after all...even though calling most of them "gentlemen" is highly inaccurate. (Aside from my time as a dancer, I've read numerous reviews of clubs from the perspective of men. It's scary.)

Meanwhile, I have heard of clubs that wouldn't allow me in without a male escort because I don't have a dick. Like a dick guarantees a desirable customer. Ha!

As for a Ladies' Night, personally I would rather be in a club when it's operating as usual. I don't want to be surrounded by female customers either...I know...it's complicated. I do sympathize...I'm much more patient with male idiocy then female cattiness.

Sylvia
04-04-2011, 09:51 AM
This is in response to a thread about female customers. I know people would say it's discrimination, I don't think it is. A lot of clubs u have to be escorted by a man isn't that discrimination? Most of the women I've seen in the clubs are straight girls who are there for a laugh, or are curious. I've seen a lot of drama go down between dancers and female customers and most are there w their boyfriends. I rarely make money off these girls and they almost never do CRs. Older married couples will but it's more young women in the clubs. I think one night a week girls should be able to come in. The rest should be guys only. I know lesbians cam spend $$ too but I really haven't seen them come in that much and I've worked at a lot of clubs. Prob bc gays clubs usually have their own dancers.
I know I'm gonna get shit for this thread but I can't be the only one who feels this way. I'm tired of sc turning into a nightclub it's ridiculous

you are looking at this from a close minded point of view....the club/business does not revolve around you or your fellow dancers....there is only one thing that is important to the club and the owners and that is they make money and profits....if a group of women come in and spend 200 bucks at the bar on drinks do you think the club/owners dont want that?....LOL....money is money.....

Sylvia
04-04-2011, 09:57 AM
. I think ladies night once a week is good. That way girls can check it out but see dancers are different from regular female customers. U know the game and how to act other girls don't. Again ladies night once a week.... Actually couples night.

oh come on....really?....seriously?....lol

that would be like opening up a co-ed gym but only allowing men there one day a week....lol

Sylvia
04-04-2011, 10:01 AM
What I don't understand is that women usually get discounts at the door. If it were up to me, I'd allow them in but instead of paying $25 cover (usually $10 for them) I'd make them buy $100 of the club's gift certificates that you HAVE to use that night to either buy dances or tip the girls.

Actually...I'd make anyone under 30 buy them too.

wow what great business sense you have....im glad you dont have your own club....you would be out of business and closed in a month or two....

Kellydancer
04-04-2011, 02:21 PM
I can see this from several points having been both a dancer for women customers and having been a customer with several ex boyfriends/guy friends.

When I had female customers (not regulars, just customers of the club) generally speaking they were very cool. Most were there because they wanted to and I did a few dances for them and they didn't touch. In general they were most respectful of me and were there because it was a way to experiment with bisexuality without actually doing it. Others were lesbians/bi but never had a problem with them either. There were a few female customers who were rude calling us sluts but they were kicked out as a guy would be. The nutty female customers who got up to dance were immediately kicked out.

However, I have gone to clubs with exboyfriends or guy friends and it was a way to get out. I am not bi or lesbian and to be honest the dances do nothing for me. However, having been a dancer I tipped the dancers and while I likely wouldn't buy a dance I would buy one for a guyfriend and I have. In the case of going with exboyfriends he was mostly just interested in watching the show until I told him he needed to tip the dancers. If it was just up to him he would have been a cheap guy we all hate. I don't think I would like a boyfriend who wanted to buy a dance, but would tell him to give the dancer the same amount that a dance entailed. Since I was a dancer I look at it differently though and I know how it is. Interesting to note that the times I've gone to clubs with guys I knew many of the dancers so they came over to greet me anyway.

I've actually talked to a platonic guy friend about going to several of the clubs that certain dancers here work at. Not only is it because I want to meet several of you, but he loves clubs and he spends A LOT on dancers. He's actually mentioned paying for me to get a VIP because he wants to see this, but we'll see. However I am not interested in touching anyone nor anything else. I don't think even if I were bi I'd want to touch anyone because I hated when people did it to me. I think it's pretty repulsive than this is a problem with women but not surprised.

One final thing and that is how disappointed I am to read how strip clubs are "men's places". While that is mainly true (and was at many clubs I danced at) as a society we need to move beyond "male" and "female" places. As a woman I hate that I am expected to go to bridal/baby showers because "it's a woman thing" or that I'm not expected to be into electronics because "it's a male thing". I never attend showers (except coed) and love electronics. Some women, probably most don't belong in strip clubs, but neither do a lot of men. Anyone who treats someone like crap doesn't belong there.

Kisca
04-04-2011, 03:29 PM
I totally digagree on a womans night. I still think a female should be escorted by a male. If she wants to buy dances, pre-pay it into paper form right at the door to spend it. If the girl just wants to check it out for working purposes, talking to the bouncer, or the manager, should be enough where they will let the girl work or view the club for a bit... I still think females customers are a big no.

Last time I danced for a couple (erm a stupid cunt and her "pimp" management who was going to get her into dancing) She was touching me all over, drunk as hell that I had to help her sit, annoying the crap out of me and just bad. The other female customers I got were with males (their SO) they mainly got 1-2 dances and were very shy and giggled, still not the best exp comparing it to a male customer.

Kellydancer
04-04-2011, 03:47 PM
Btw, I am not saying a woman shouldn't have to pay, just that when one group is not allowed it's really not fair. As for women pre paying for dances that should be for all people. How many times have dancers (myself included) complained about cheap male customers who didn't spend money? I actually suggested this idea to a manager that all customers should be required to buy a dance when they pay for admission (or in a few cases pay for it instead of FREE admission) but he didn't like this because he felt it would scare away people.

I've never gone into a club without a male companion and never would. I don't get women who do this at all and most clubs I worked at required women to have a male companion. I am fine with this completely.

Oddly, one club I was considering dancing at wanted me to pay admission before I could even talk to them about it. Now that I turned down because I wasn't there as a customer.

I understand the problems many of you have had with women customers, but if it comes down to it and clubs started rejecting people based on this they would have a lot of legal problems on their hands. For instance, I've worked at clubs with a problem with non English speaking Mexicans or Indians (from India). They were cheap and handsy. If a club had a policy of no Mexicans or Indians they would face a lot of problems. That's why this issue is murky. Clubs just need to enforce stricter policies of kicking out nasty people.

velvet
04-04-2011, 10:26 PM
.the club/business does not revolve around you or your fellow dancers..

Really DUDE ( and i know you are one)
The strip club doesnt revolve around the strippers??? I guess that means the patrons come in to see your male staff and drink overpriced drinks? That would be the gay club not the stripclub.

CherryBomb954
04-04-2011, 11:25 PM
^^^ Guess men are finding clever little ways to be able to post in SG.

jasmine22
04-05-2011, 12:01 AM
oh come on....really?....seriously?....lol

that would be like opening up a co-ed gym but only allowing men there one day a week....lol

How is a strip club like a coed gym...? If it was coed u would have men and women dancing on stage. Not to be rude but I don't understand the logic although I do understand to a certain degree the opposing viewpoint of the topic

jasmine22
04-05-2011, 12:13 AM
you are looking at this from a close minded point of view....the club/business does not revolve around you or your fellow dancers....there is only one thing that is important to the club and the owners and that is they make money and profits....if a group of women come in and spend 200 bucks at the bar on drinks do you think the club/owners dont want that?....LOL....money is money.....

A strip club doesn't revolve around the dancers? Well then why have dancers at all?? Lol please we are the only reason they come in, otherwise it's just a bar. That mentality is the reason why clubs fail bc they try to hard to be a nightclub and forget they're in the business of dancers. Yes they make money off the bar but u think they would if there were no dancers....? Money is money but there's a difference between being successful and a desperate attempt to get business

loren
04-05-2011, 01:46 AM
I think one night a week girls should be able to come in. The rest should be guys only. I think that is a great idea. It is possible to make $ off of female custys - but extremely rare. They usually are bad for business. I made $80 off of a female custy tonight. But again - it is so rare. I do think that for the most part women are bad for business. Sad but true. I don't think that a club would be allowed to do that though although male custys are not allowed to go to straight male stripper clubs. They have to have a female with them and I don't think they are allowed to get dances. Double standard. Who cares about femal strippers let's make sure that the male strippers can make money. That is not right. I have also seen a lot of huge atttitudes coming from female custys. They will be rude to strippers and super disrepecful.

UV69
04-05-2011, 10:50 AM
I think female customers weed out strippers who can't compete with the average girls who walk in from the street in terms of making money off the crowd. Yes I said it as I don't worry about being out staged by the girls who walk in, but I know some dancers who do feel that way for a reason.

I think the future of strip clubs are going to be bigger clubs with tons of dancers & women in the club (like the main clubs here) who pride themselves on having 95-300 girls there every shift not excluding the exclusive bisexual swingers groups who rent out there vip for their own private parties bring in tons of women in their crowds.

I think there are only going to be more women going to strip clubs all over. As women are making more & exploring more of the sex industry.

I think smart strippers know how to work female customers to their advantage which honestly I know many dancers who do make money off female customers just the same as any other if not more cuz male customers do spend more fasters when another female is encouraging him. Proven fact if you don't believe me just go as a female customers & ask customers for dollars to tip the dancers & watch them shell it out faster then when collecting your own tips I'm willing to bet.

I think alot of dancers are rude or unwelcoming in attitude to female customers mostly in small towns where homophobia & sexist still is the way of thinking so maybe I don't blame them for being just as rude in return in some cases.

I however know here female customers are treated & seen more based on behavior then discriminated based on sex. I get vip treatment in most clubs I walk into & never have issues with dancers acting like I should be at their club becuz I have t&a. Infact I would dare say I get way better treatment then the guys I walk in with most of the time which generally works better for their money as their money often follows as well as many others who's eyes are on us.

None of the girls who work as dancers are going to change who the owners allow in the club so all your protesting on sw is not going to affect the facts that clubs are not going to turn down money & that the way of the world is changing were girls in the club attract men period. It's a gentlemen's club yes, but they won't be complaining about female customers or more women in the club. Are you seriously thinking that men are turned off by bi women there with their bfs or drunk str8 women being there single or lesbian customers getting dances?? Please the best thing that happened to Katy Perry was singing I kissed a girl 4 a reason & g on g has always been popular for the viewing of men so I don't see sc's closing the doors on female customers anytime soon.

If you don't like female customers coming to your club maybe you should just quit the sexual entertainment/strippering industry becuz it's really not about your preferences it's about whoever is paying for you entertaining them & with more & more females walking in if you can't handle it well that's your issue if you want to refuse dealing with them.

This is just my view & I hate seeing women discriminate other women & fight for the right of protecting male only spaces, but it doesn't shock me at all.

jasmine22
04-05-2011, 10:57 AM
^^^^sw is a place to express opinion. It's one thing to express ur opinion and another thing to tell girls to quit the business lol grow up. It's just an opinion sweetie. Also sexual entertainment is totally about our preferences. I can choose to perform for anyone I want seeing as how I'm self employed and not an employee. I don't let clubs push me around if u love dancing for females then go do ur thing but don't tell people to quit just bc I have a different opinion

smeca
04-05-2011, 12:19 PM
What I don't understand is that women usually get discounts at the door. If it were up to me, I'd allow them in but instead of paying $25 cover (usually $10 for them) I'd make them buy $100 of the club's gift certificates that you HAVE to use that night to either buy dances or tip the girls.

Actually...I'd make anyone under 30 buy them too.


That is such a good idea! My club gets full of non-spenders in the last few hours as it's the only place still open. There are a few interested guys in, that or the other girls know how to sell dances to these dicks, but it's bloody hard work. And I don't appreciate all these freeloaders gawping at me in skimpy outfits for free! I might bring this idea up... the club probably makes too much money in drinks to do this though, it's only small :-\

UV69
04-05-2011, 03:56 PM
^^^^sw is a place to express opinion. It's one thing to express ur opinion and another thing to tell girls to quit the business lol grow up. It's just an opinion sweetie. Also sexual entertainment is totally about our preferences. I can choose to perform for anyone I want seeing as how I'm self employed and not an employee. I don't let clubs push me around if u love dancing for females then go do ur thing but don't tell people to quit just bc I have a different opinion

There is having opinions & discriminating people based on sex- if some1's opinion is offensive to me as a female well they should be able to handle how I feel about them as a business service provider same I would say if target refused my money do to my sex.

Yes strippers are independent contractors who can dance for whoever they like or not, but when they start acting like they make the rules of the club in the industry & they have issues with current trends that is bringing money to the club well they really don't have a say in the matter & if they can't make money becuz of it well it's on them to make a choice if they want to be there or not. That's all I'm saying.

girlfromipanema
04-05-2011, 05:14 PM
The only good I can see in having female customers is in a club that has rampant, out in the open extras. Female presence may help tone down the customers' expectations in a place like that.

Banning or controlling the female influx is probably not going to happen because the owners and managers don't seem to give a shit for us dancers as long as they are making their tip outs and bar money. This is why extras are out of control, too. From experience, I find it more trouble than its worth to deal with females in the club, so I ignore them all. Maybe if they are ignored the guys will realize there is no fun in bringing girls to the SC and will refrain in the future. I have actually told guys who have brought women in that it is stupid and unwanted.

tempest666
04-05-2011, 11:23 PM
The only good I can see in having female customers is in a club that has rampant, out in the open extras. Female presence may help tone down the customers' expectations in a place like that.

Banning or controlling the female influx is probably not going to happen because the owners and managers don't seem to give a shit for us dancers as long as they are making their tip outs and bar money. This is why extras are out of control, too. From experience, I find it more trouble than its worth to deal with females in the club, so I ignore them all. Maybe if they are ignored the guys will realize there is no fun in bringing girls to the SC and will refrain in the future. I have actually told guys who have brought women in that it is stupid and unwanted.


This -_- my sentiments exactly