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simone87
12-27-2012, 01:37 PM
True this is most strippers unfortunately I think lots of us strippers let what we do make us feel lower. Gotta have thick skin to do this or it will ruin u. Know ur worth b4 even considering doin this& let nobody change ur mind on who u are. Set ur standards & stick to um. Make short term & long term goals & achieve them. Ur in control of ur own destiny so if u feel ur goin down this path change it now b 4 ur 2 late. I dnt think kevin intends to offend & even if he was dnt let him. Just do good 4 u& know ur nt the average as all of us who work in this has seen this :)
oh on the contrary i believe he was definitely trying to offend..he comes here to STIPPERWEB and then calls us all "shitheels" and manipulators and husband-stealers, but at the same time tries to say that we are bad with money and easy to manipulate. and i wouldn't say " true this is most strippers unfortunately" unless you really know what you are talking about and aren't just buying into bullshit stereotypes.

Kevin99
12-27-2012, 02:25 PM
oh on the contrary i believe he was definitely trying to offend..he comes here to STIPPERWEB and then calls us all "shitheels" and manipulators and husband-stealers, but at the same time tries to say that we are bad with money and easy to manipulate. and i wouldn't say " true this is most strippers unfortunately" unless you really know what you are talking about and aren't just buying into bullshit stereotypes. Simone I never said ALL I said MOST. If the shoe fits wear it. If you don't fit that description than no offense should be taken. I did not come on here to try to disrespect or offend anyone especially the dancers I just speak the truth of what I have observed in my life. My point in the beginning is that the dancers and escorts complaining about pimps who manipulate dancers and escorts out of their money are manipulators themselves. Never said they were husband stealers either they don't want the husband just his green cash. I also stated that the manipulation that the average dancer or escort does is nowhere as bad as what the pimp does.

Another thing I am openminded and I do agree not everyone fits the stereotype but a whole lot do. We can agree to disagree. Also even if a person has to do some minor manipulation or sleazy sales techniques or do things that might not be OK under mainstream societies morals it does not always make them a totally bad person overall. No one is perfect.

Tsepmet1
12-27-2012, 03:10 PM
It doesn't matter if the shoe fits or not, we are all offended because you are buying into stereotypes and putting down our industry on OUR site! It's like walking into someone's house and then badmouthing them, no wait, people like them. Ugh. Gtfo.

yoda57us
12-27-2012, 03:29 PM
Simone I never said ALL I said MOST. How about "some" since that doesn't imply a majority. What? you think it is a majority?! Why didn't you just say so? Oh, you did...


If the shoe fits wear it. If you don't fit that description than no offense should be taken. I did not come on here to try to disrespect or offend anyone especially the dancers I just speak the truth of what I have observed in my life. No, you came here with an agenda formed from the point of view of an outsider to everything that you think you know about. Sorry Kevin but bouncing in a club (if you actually did) doesn't qualify you to judge dancers. Since you don't understand what a dancer's job actually is you have no business comparing their job to what anyone else does for a living, least of all a pimp.


My point in the beginning is that the dancers and escorts complaining about pimps who manipulate dancers and escorts out of their money are manipulators themselves. Again, a dancer's job is to get guys to spend money on her. Real live pimps (not BF/Suitcase pimps) humiliate, demoralize and beat women to help create a fear/dependency that forces their victims to hand over all of their money at the end of their shift. Comprende? Probably not since, as I mentioned earlier, you re seeing all of this from the front door of the club while checking ID's and hitting on dancers who won't go out with you because you make a living as a bouncer...


Another thing I am openmindedNo your not.


and I do agree not everyone fits the stereotype but a whole lot do.Again, says you, from your vantage point of being on the outside looking in.


We can agree to disagree. Congratulations. That's the understatement of the fucking year!


Also even if a person has to do some minor manipulation or sleazy sales techniques or do things that might not be OK under mainstream societies morals it does not always make them a totally bad person overall. Are you defending Dancers or Pimps here? Once again. Dancer=working. Pimp=abusive asshole trying to make a living off of other people's hard work. There are no pimps that are not assholes. You just have no idea what a pimp actually is.


No one is perfect.I think we can all agree on this...

Kevin99
12-27-2012, 04:47 PM
I am not defending nor condemning a dancer for manipulating customers Yoda. I think it is obvious we are not talking about traffickers and pimps who use violence or deal with minors as some of the dancers already described some of the ones they were involved with. Which I guess you could call him a boyfreind pimp who uses psychological manipulation, romance, sex and some shit that is beyond any of our understanding.

I am definitely not defending any pimp not even the smooth, boyfriend, romantic, sweettalking pimp so let us get that straight. I did more than work the door you have to secure the whole club. You make it sound like I had a bad experience or relationship with staff or the dancers this is not the case so get that out of your head. I am really not trying to go back and forth with this I stated my points most of you didn't agree but some on here agreed with me if not in full but partially. The truth hurts sometimes and the fact is a manipulator is a manipulator some are worse than others but it is what it is.

yoda57us
12-27-2012, 05:45 PM
I am really not trying to go back and forth with this

Really? Coulda' fooled me...


The truth hurts sometimes and the fact is a manipulator is a manipulator some are worse than others but it is what it is.

Your "truth" is an ill-conceived series of opinions based on stereotypes. The only thing that hurts here is my side from laughing so hard....

Djoser
12-27-2012, 07:43 PM
OK great, we have finished the off-topic discussion concerning the morality of dancing vs. the morality of pimping.

Now back to the original question posed by the OP. Are pimps becoming more or less rare?

Thank you for your cooperation.

tempest666
12-27-2012, 11:19 PM
Oh lord lol. I had forgotten about this thread and that I started it. I'll just stick to "Naked men" threads next time to prevent clusterfucks.

Tsepmet1
12-28-2012, 08:23 AM
Sowy. :/

Well, to answer the question, I have only been "pimp attempted" (hoe attempted?) twice ever, and both attempts were made during the time I worked in Cleveland. I never had a problem before that. Maybe I'm just not hoe material? I actually never even realized what a problem pimps were until at least 2 years into my dancing career.

livefast
01-09-2013, 01:47 PM
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summerbre
01-09-2013, 02:08 PM
No to a dancer breaking my heart. I dated and hooked up with 4 strippers and I never had a real bad experience nor a commited serious relationship we just hung out and had fun. They would try you or test you with occasional bullshit but nothing major. I had loaned small amounts of money to dancers (not just ones I dated) and some never paid me back but this has also happened with DJ's other security people, bartenders etc so I am not saying just the dancers were deadbeats. On the contrary dancers paid me back quicker because I would only loan them no more than $100 and they respect security because if a customer got out of line and was disrespectful I would read the fucker the riot act and if he was really out of line I kicked his out of the club literally and got a lot of respect from the dancers as well as the management.

LOL what? Why were you loaning everyone in the club money?! This is so bizarre for me. I've never asked a bouncer for money... Or anyone but a CUSTOMER for money inside a strip club. It sounds like maybe you were getting "micro"-pimped by everyone you worked with, and this may be where some of the bitterness is coming from...