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Slab4508
04-11-2011, 08:22 AM
Just found something writen by Sen Orrin Hatch (UT)... "Obscenity is not simply immoral or distasteful, it is increasingly harmful." Link for the full article here (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700125036/Enforce-federal-laws-on-obscenity.html?s_cid=rss-33). Its the same "old" argument that porn leads to the stuff everyone agrees is bad, and instead of talking about EXACTLY what "obscene" material is, he and his type just go on talking about violence against women, sex trafficking, and child pornography. Yeah, WE GET IT! You have our attention, now get busy with meaningful details (but isn't that true of any politician).

edit: Thought I would post this as well (www.lorenavedon.com/laws.htm (http://www.lorenavedon.com/laws.htm)), so from now on, webcam falls under "performing arts!"

Slab4508
04-11-2011, 09:10 AM
Grrr, so pornography is protected under the First Amendment, but obscenity isn't. Sounds fair enough, BUT the line between the two is based on what is "offensive." What a load of legal BS... If your not offended by porn, it's not obscene, but if you ARE offended by it (even just a pair of naked breasts), then it becomes obscene!

There is no "federal standard" so even if you live in an area that would like to burn you for wichcraft, er, I mean, stone you in the streets... no... ok, you come to church on Sunday and we no let you in, lol... the "violation" can only be enforced locally (which means they can't go after a site or comany, or other models). I'm not aware of any city that has forced the internet service providers to filter adult content, but most of us are aware of those little adult novelty/video places just outside city limits, so physical items are regulated.

edit: "The Supreme Court has acknowledged that there exists no legitimate societal or governmental interest in prohibiting the simple possession of even obscene material by adults in the home. Since Internet transmissions usually occur from one private setting to another, the government will be hard-pressed to identify any compelling interest in regulating the content of such transmissions, among consenting adults." Found that from a slightly outdated post, but well worth the read (link here (http://www.firstamendment.com/site-articles/obscenity-laws/)).

roast
04-11-2011, 03:00 PM
Well, you have to weigh a few things. Sex and obscenity laws have always been deliberately fuzzy, so it's helpful to take a look at what's prosecuted. PornLaw mentioned that no camgirl's been prosecuted - that's significant because that gives you an idea of where the priorities are. Of course, it doesn't mean priorities won't change, but it's still something to consider.

You also need to factor in the resources required to actually bust a camgirl on obscenity, let alone RICO. All that costs money. To lay down all that cash and manpower to bust a camgirl, there's got to be a payoff for the prosecutor. Busting a camgirl for some arcane local obscenity law isn't going to be a big get.

The best advice I ever received regarding sex work was from a client back when I was an escort. Being intimately familiar with the legal system - well, being *part* of the legal system - he said, "When it comes to sex work, if they want to bust you, they can. So the trick is: don't let them *want* to bust you." In other words, if you're a camgirl and getting naked or masturbating for pay, nobody's going to be motivated to track you down for obscenity, lay down the resources to build a case, prosecute you, go through rounds of appeals, etc. But if you're a camgirl and you're fucking your dog while a toddler wanders through the background, someone is going to be pretty motivated to find a way to bust you.

Anyway... something to consider.


Very well said - probably super important for those of us who produce "clips" for pay to bear in mind. As much as I love clips selling sites, particularly fetish ones, I always expect to read on xbiz about the Extreme Farting, Blackmail, Extreme Adult diaper, Extreme Crush, and other obscenity/possible criminality bending categories by Independents being investigated but the wazoo. Those categories often make the MOST money for that very reason

Generally poop play (extreme farting, consumption, showing it, etc) appears to my knowledge **hell yea disclaimer** to be prosecuted & enrage the general public less than ageplay & killing (extreme crush) stuff - but hey may as well keep it all in mind.

Not all cam girls just "cam", you know? I feel like most of us are multitaskers in the sex industry (images, content, clips, phone, some escorting, porn, domming, etc) Particularly for us fetish-lovin-mofos, play and make $$ as safely as possible

and didn't Canada recently decriminalize sex work across certain provinces (not legalize it, but friendlier than their 'not indoors in your home' policy or uh whatever it was... hell yea ignorance. Sorry Canadian ladies, Ill look it up now).

Regardless, I need some Canadian hot chocolate

exquizit
06-05-2011, 06:04 PM
i read this all the way through, this is very interesting makes you wonder alot should you hide who you are better, now im afraid to show my face on cam lol

Moskatt
06-05-2011, 08:44 PM
Wow very interesting topic. Sometimes I'm happy to live in eastern europe in such a "barbarian" country. ::) Over here prostitution is also legal, they just have to work as a self-employed person, and give receipt. 8)

I read another thread about a girl here who was not payed for her dance and the dude also called her a whore, so she slapped him, and she got fired. Someone wrote that she must be happy for just being fired and not being sued. I was like WTF? Over here if this happens, the security men also beat him up and noone will be suprised. :O

Sometimes I would like to make a trip to the US but I afraid of ending up in prison for not being able to behave myself cause I'm from a "barbarian" place compared to yours. :D

BlkSharpie
06-05-2011, 11:40 PM
Even if an overzelous federal D.A. did decide to take on webcamming (which will happen in the future), I doubt they would arrest hundreds on top of hundreds of webcam models.

But it would only take a snap of the fingers to freeze our accounts.

...Well, its a good thing I escort too then eh? The irony! :D:D

Sorry, okay this is a serious discussion...carry on 8)

KitanaBlades
06-06-2011, 12:34 AM
Meh...

Who really cares? We all do our own thing and we are getting PAID.

If someone wants to come bust me because I am fucking myself stupid ON CAM and not on the streets, let them come take me away...because when I get back I will go RIGHT BACK TO IT.

So - I will tell this to a judge and even my President - if you DO NOT LIKE IT, outlaw it. If you don't outlaw it, TAX us - which you do anyways because we are self-employed.

Until then, STFU - at least we are doing the best WE can rather than depending on anyone else that is IMPORTANT in this country with a political TITLE to dig us out of the HOLE we are ALL in.

It's our JOB and we aren't out spreading disease...so if they want to look at us being sickos, maybe they should go arrest Johnny BeatsHisCockAllNightOnMFCforFREE and is asking me to lick my dog and THEN send him my drenched panties...

He's the one who is doing is for PLEASURE when I am doing it so I can eat some Doritos for dinner! Sniff - Bait - CUM - MOVE ON to the next one...

Geeze!

TouringGirlfriend
06-06-2011, 04:31 AM
Meh...

Who really cares? We all do our own thing and we are getting PAID.

If someone wants to come bust me because I am fucking myself stupid ON CAM and not on the streets, let them come take me away...because when I get back I will go RIGHT BACK TO IT.

So - I will tell this to a judge and even my President - if you DO NOT LIKE IT, outlaw it. If you don't outlaw it, TAX us - which you do anyways because we are self-employed.

Until then, STFU - at least we are doing the best WE can rather than depending on anyone else that is IMPORTANT in this country with a political TITLE to dig us out of the HOLE we are ALL in.

It's our JOB and we aren't out spreading disease...so if they want to look at us being sickos, maybe they should go arrest Johnny BeatsHisCockAllNightOnMFCforFREE and is asking me to lick my dog and THEN send him my drenched panties...

He's the one who is doing is for PLEASURE when I am doing it so I can eat some Doritos for dinner! Sniff - Bait - CUM - MOVE ON to the next one...

Geeze!

Exactly!

This is exactly how I feel.

If webcam modeling is so illegal then please you guys stop fucking doing it.

I'll continue to rake in the money... ok?

This thread is annoying. I'm unsubscribing from a thread for the first time. UGH!

exquizit
06-06-2011, 04:44 AM
i like that blades lol

Shameless Vixen
06-07-2011, 09:18 PM
There's probably already been another thread posted about this, but I'm too tired to search right now. One of the girls with whom I used to work on the strip club circuit was arrested for selling content on her own site in Florida this weekend. Here's the story:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCcQqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theledger.com%2Farticle%2F201 10604%2FNEWS%2F110609710%2F1410%3FTitle%3DLake-Wales-Couple-Made-and-Sold-Porn-at-Home-Arrest-Report-Says-&ei=N_fuTZdtkqfQAdXk8PEM&usg=AFQjCNHviXcTO2lk87MspT6rp5uuTxfbcw

It will be interesting to see how this one plays out.

bubblegumbitch
06-07-2011, 09:22 PM
There's probably already been another thread posted about this, but I'm too tired to search right now. One of the girls with whom I used to work on the strip club circuit was arrested for selling content on her own site in Florida this weekend. Here's the story:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCcQqQIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theledger.com%2Farticle%2F201 10604%2FNEWS%2F110609710%2F1410%3FTitle%3DLake-Wales-Couple-Made-and-Sold-Porn-at-Home-Arrest-Report-Says-&ei=N_fuTZdtkqfQAdXk8PEM&usg=AFQjCNHviXcTO2lk87MspT6rp5uuTxfbcw

It will be interesting to see how this one plays out.


that's funny, pornlaw started a thread from this exact story!
http://forum.stripperweb.com/showthread.php?t=155873

KitanaBlades
06-08-2011, 11:39 AM
Again - who cares...

If you are gonna let an article scare you away - that's on you.

You girls know discretion is 90% of this business so - for example, I may have a blog saying what I do and how I do it - but I am not going to out my customers. There's a discretion line for customers and a discretion line for cam girls....

Simply put - if you wanna out your customers - you're an idiot. If you don't understand the risk of discretion and disclosure with being s cam girl and what it entails, then you don't belong in this business.

You have to expect that being a cam girl - what is up ahead. It is what it is - so be serious and rake the cash or GTFO out of everyone's way so we can make it for you...

Unsubscribing to this thread...

aleciaxxx
12-24-2011, 10:02 AM
yes it is legal in the USA but I wouldn't tell a cop that's my job as they think they have a license to disrespect you.