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Sylvia
04-21-2011, 07:53 AM
I get to keep $120, but then the club takes an additional 15% of my nightly earnings, so that drops it down to $102. (plus $40 I pay the housemom and DJ, plus the $40 stage fee (IF I checked in before 7:15--otherwise it's more). Plus $6 for parking.) So, yeah, I just barely break even.



the thing is....the customer does not really care about any of this....they only see it as "i am paying X amount of dollars for X amount of time"....they dont care where the money is going or who is getting it....

if i buy a car for 25,000 bucks a certain percentage is going to the dealership....a certain percentage is going to the salesman....a certain percentage is going to the manufacturer....none of this matters to me, the customer....i only see it as im buying a car for 25,000....

GreenLady
04-21-2011, 07:55 AM
^You are so obviously not a dancer it's ridiculous.

GreenLady
04-21-2011, 07:57 AM
And as though it weren't already clear, I don't really give a shit how much I was making or not making, you DON'T disrespect someone's body, plain and simple. I really don't care to hear any more of your thoughtful and sensitive feedback "Sylvia."

Sylvia
04-21-2011, 08:01 AM
I really don't care to hear any more of your thoughtful and sensitive feedback "Sylvia."

if you do not want to hear feedback then do not ask for it on a public forum...

GreenLady
04-21-2011, 08:07 AM
^I don't care to hear anymore of YOUR feedback. And I certainly didn't asked to be lectured. I asked for advice in dealing with situations where customers try to overpower and abuse me. You did not provide it. You decided instead to lecture me on...what? My contractual obligations? As though it was something I didn't know? The point is inarguable: what he did was WRONG. And I have every right to say so. Kindly fuck off now.

GreenLady
04-21-2011, 08:11 AM
You are now on my ignore list Sylvia, so don't bother responding.

Sylvia
04-21-2011, 08:13 AM
^I don't care to hear anymore of YOUR feedback. And I certainly didn't asked to be lectured.

so you only want to hear feedback from people who agree with you?

doesn't make much sense to me.....

Mindy Bares All
04-21-2011, 03:40 PM
^^^Is it impossible for you to play nicely or just act like a halfway decent human being if you're going to bother posting in this thread, or forum?

A little sympathy goes a long way.

lagirl
04-21-2011, 06:25 PM
i wish i could do the "pay me extra or ill scream" thing in la. managers usually take the guys side and will scold us for asking for tips.

im working at a nude club now and the guys seriously think they can molest me for 100 bucks 15 minutes vip...of which we only keep 60 btw, and 45 after tipout. seriously whenever i go in there its 15 minutes of pushing his hand away and saying' 'no you cannot lick me, no you cannot eat me out. " and them whining and asking "why? but the other girls let me?"
well the other girls are desperate idiots.

fluffypenguin
04-21-2011, 07:22 PM
*hugs* we've all been in that situation. Your first problem was that you were desperate to make money and took someone you knew would be trouble for a dance when you didn't want to. The second was that you didn't take charge of the situation. My first suggestion is that you take enough money with you to work so you never find yourself in the I have to make money no matter what situation. This will allow you to be more selective and believe me as a 44 year old that looks my age and is very ordinary looking this attitude will stop you wasting time trying to convince idiots to dance and allow you to find that one guy who really likes you and spends all of their money on you.
The second is that it is your body and up to you to protect it. You are in charge, if they don't back off when you ask then it is perfectly fine for you to get physical, hold their hands so they can't touch you (i've done whole dances gripping a handsy guys wrists) thump them about slam hard on their lap I have only dealt with a handful of rough men and discovered that if you dish it back to them and treat them the same shitty way they are treating you they often enjoy it and are generous at the end!

peachplumpear
04-22-2011, 07:54 PM
Good posts everyone! Feeling very empowered if I encounter anything like that this weekend. I'm coming back to dancing in nor cal after being in so cal for 5 years and YES there is a huge difference in how the people coming into and running the club behave towards contact in the dances. I am 100% happier in nor cal vs. so cal

Anyway- I think my reaction to any agressive humping/grabbing shenanigans sort of solidified my 2nd or 3rd year and now it's just this immediate thing where I look back like "what the hell?" and it's super obvious everything fun has stopped. I'll react this way everytime I don't like something it's just habit now, I don't give a crap what they paid. Or a couple times I very jokingly was like OH YEAH and i bounced back a million times harder so that they have to be the ones going "what the hell?" it just ceases to be fun for them anymore when you're getting rear-rammed by a bony-butt stripper all hopped up on redbull and vodkas lol

GreenLady
04-22-2011, 09:43 PM
Or a couple times I very jokingly was like OH YEAH and i bounced back a million times harder so that they have to be the ones going "what the hell?" it just ceases to be fun for them anymore when you're getting rear-rammed by a bony-butt stripper all hopped up on redbull and vodkas lol

:D I think this is the best thing I've heard yet!

xGigi
04-23-2011, 02:04 AM
the best way to deal with shit like that is get the money up front and bail if it doesn't go your way. I've dealt with so many assholes because I was worried they wouldn't pay me. my first month dancing one guy bit my shoulder and I just screamed "OW!" and kept on dancing after he apologized. if I had his money I would have stormed off.

yyyrrrrtt
04-23-2011, 07:05 PM
Totally understandable to get into the "well if I don't continue, I would have been pushed around for nothing..." mentality when it's all very confusing.

I think the nanosecond you are EVER even a BIT uncomfortable then make it clear it's over. It's not worth it to do anything you don't feel comfortable with doing. You're certainly best positioned if you ask for payment upfront (through depends on the club norms) since ending the session means he loses out and not you, so more pressure for him to behave than you to conform.

Lastly, don't feel too terrible about this. That was a terrible experience. But. but. you learned something and nothing irreversible consequential happened so best to learn from it and forget it, positive energy is key!