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Dirty Ernie
05-07-2011, 01:10 PM
A lot of the men on SW are definitely "buy-sexual".

JayATee
05-07-2011, 02:56 PM
^ The basic primordial objective of sex is climax/orgasm. "Attraction" is just an enhancement, it makes the experience a whole lot better, but it is not essential.

I can fuck a girl I am not attracted to and have a great orgasm - in fact, if she is super-kinky, I may even have a better orgasm with her, than with someone I am actually attracted to.

Also, "attraction" is large a condition of social/cultural programming. In ancient Greece, the "beauty" of young boys was worshipped and celebrated and it was not frowned upon for "straight" older men to have sex with young boys (in fact, it was quite common). In our society, the "beauty" of young women is worshipped and celebrated, so it is more acceptable for women to appreciate the beauty of other women, than for men to appreciate the "beauty" of other men.

Good point about inanimate objects - we are beyond bi-sexual - anything-sexual?
http://www.cracked.com/article_17098_the-6-strangest-objects-people-were-caught-having-sex-with.html

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080211015431/uncyclopedia/images/2/26/Pink_panther.gif

Orgasm during rape (assuming this happens) is an aberration - it is a very unique unfortunate condition wherein the body and the mind split-up due to trauma and move forward on separate tracks. The body orgasms, not the mind.

You positively boggle my mind with your cluelessness....

Optimist
05-07-2011, 03:58 PM
I also just want to throw out there that there's more to sexual orientation than gay, straight, or bi.

I consider myself to be pansexual, though I often just tell people that I'm bi because it requires less explaining.

You have sex with pans????!!! ;) I couldn't resist! :P

I'm bi BUT I think theoretically I could even go so far a mate swap--especially if it was Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie!! Hell yeah! ;D

mediocrity
05-08-2011, 02:28 AM
Trust me... you know. I have kissed and done more with girls who are not bi and are just trying to impress a guy. Its really obvious. You can just feel their energy. They are not interested in you and are more interested in what positions "look good" and what their boyfriend or watching boys are doing/how they are reacting. It might be harmless to the girl but for me it is hurtful. You shouldnt fool around with someone if you dont even like them. Even though Im not interested in a relationship I still find it hurtful when a girl pretends to be bi and once I start something I can tell she obviously knows she isnt and is just putting on a show. I wouldnt care if she was curious and decided later it wasnt for her, but I can tell the difference.


I agree with both of these! Trust me jack.....we KNOW! It's not hard to spot and it IS hurtful and annoying. It's like a giant slap in the face.

THIS. I'm not bisexual, because unlike these lovely ladies, I have only had sex with women when I had something to gain. I have also never felt attracted to a woman. Jessie and Jas both genuinely ENJOY, are attracted to, and SEEK sex with women. See the difference? I even said that now, I won't ever do it again, because now I have nothing to stand to gain by doing something I DO NOT enjoy.

Do you see my point?

pussyinboots
05-08-2011, 02:47 AM
Trust me... you know. I have kissed and done more with girls who are not bi and are just trying to impress a guy. Its really obvious. You can just feel their energy. They are not interested in you and are more interested in what positions "look good" and what their boyfriend or watching boys are doing/how they are reacting. It might be harmless to the girl but for me it is hurtful. You shouldnt fool around with someone if you dont even like them. Even though Im not interested in a relationship I still find it hurtful when a girl pretends to be bi and once I start something I can tell she obviously knows she isnt and is just putting on a show. I wouldnt care if she was curious and decided later it wasnt for her, but I can tell the difference.



I agree with both of these! Trust me jack.....we KNOW! It's not hard to spot and it IS hurtful and annoying. It's like a giant slap in the face.

Oh this is really SO frustrating...like...I can feel the energy from you guys just by reading these posts......!:-*



THIS. I'm not bisexual, because unlike these lovely ladies, I have only had sex with women when I had something to gain. I have also never felt attracted to a woman.
Jessie and Jas both genuinely ENJOY, are attracted to, and SEEK sex with women. See the difference? I even said that now, I won't ever do it again, because now I have nothing to stand to gain by doing something I DO NOT enjoy.


Do you see my point?

Oh Yes....and you can count me in here too.

jack0177057
05-09-2011, 07:49 AM
Trust me... you know. I have kissed and done more with girls who are not bi and are just trying to impress a guy. Its really obvious. You can just feel their energy. They are not interested in you and are more interested in what positions "look good" and what their boyfriend or watching boys are doing/how they are reacting. It might be harmless to the girl but for me it is hurtful. You shouldnt fool around with someone if you dont even like them. Even though Im not interested in a relationship I still find it hurtful when a girl pretends to be bi and once I start something I can tell she obviously knows she isnt and is just putting on a show. I wouldnt care if she was curious and decided later it wasnt for her, but I can tell the difference.

Wow - that's unbeleavable that a girl would engage in sex with women (without being curious or into it at all) just to impress some guy. I suppose, if he has a "cuckold" fetish and wants her to fuck random guys, she'd do that, too - sad and disgusting!


You positively boggle my mind with your cluelessness....

Thanks.:D I've missed you.;)

noelle
05-09-2011, 07:53 AM
The way other people label themselves doesn't bother me at all. I don't think anyone is required to "prove" anything about their sexuality to me or anyone. I also would call myself pansexual or queer. I have dated all kinds of people of various genders.

Jack, I don't see what is "disgusting" about wanting to please your mate. However, I do think it's important to remember the other person you are interacting with is a PERSON, not just a plaything so you can arouse your significant ther.

noelle
05-09-2011, 07:58 AM
One way to test this theory - wear a blindfold and receive oral sex twice, alternating between a male and a female person providing oral (obviously, without knowing who goes first or second). If you orgasm both times - you're bi.

I've said this about "straight" men that like strap-on sex (and my comments always stir up controversy). If you're a "straight" guy who enjoys strap-on sex - try this experiment: wear a blindfold and alternate between a guy and a girl with a strap-on (obviously, without knowing who goes first or second). If you orgasm both times - you're bi. (No offense intended by this to anyone.)

Wow, this is one of the most clueless and inane things I have ever read. If you orgasm both times, you're a human being with nerve endings.

Eva Rose
05-09-2011, 08:02 AM
Originally Posted by Jessie_tinydancer
Trust me... you know. I have kissed and done more with girls who are not bi and are just trying to impress a guy. Its really obvious. You can just feel their energy. They are not interested in you and are more interested in what positions "look good" and what their boyfriend or watching boys are doing/how they are reacting. It might be harmless to the girl but for me it is hurtful. You shouldnt fool around with someone if you dont even like them. Even though Im not interested in a relationship I still find it hurtful when a girl pretends to be bi and once I start something I can tell she obviously knows she isnt and is just putting on a show. I wouldnt care if she was curious and decided later it wasnt for her, but I can tell the difference.




I had something similar a few nights ago. I was out at a gay bar with a friend who I occasionally hook up with (he's bisexual), and unfortunately for him, he was being somewhat attacked that night. One fellow who was particularly insistent coerced his female friend into hooking up with me to provide sufficient distraction. Not only was she one of the worst kissers I've ever experienced, but you could practically feel the disgust radiating off her. It was probably one of the most awkward experiences I've ever had.
In answer to the original question, I like both men and women, and I've had long term committed relationships with both. I tend to have a preference for men, but should I see a lady that I particularly like the look of I will not hesitate to make a move. Meh, doesn't really answer the question so much, but oh well!

jack0177057
05-09-2011, 10:49 AM
Jack, I don't see what is "disgusting" about wanting to please your mate. However, I do think it's important to remember the other person you are interacting with is a PERSON, not just a plaything so you can arouse your significant ther.

I have lived my whole life wanting to please women sexually (and succeeding, for the most part). I've read books, watched videos, bought toys, lotions, bondage accessories, etc.,... learned to give messages (back, legs, shoulders, neck, butt and clit) and to "go down", etc. But, I would never engage in sexual activities with another person, just to please my GF (unless it was an experience that I also found pleasurable).

But, I sincerely meant no offense to anybody. Sorry if my language offended anyone.

jack0177057
05-09-2011, 11:22 AM
One way to test this theory - wear a blindfold and receive oral sex twice, alternating between a male and a female person providing oral (obviously, without knowing who goes first or second). If you orgasm both times - you're bi.


Wow, this is one of the most clueless and inane things I have ever read. If you orgasm both times, you're a human being with nerve endings.

Exactly, that's my point - nearly everyone has the capacity to orgasm from sexual interaction with either gender. I'm not saying there is attraction for both genders, just the potential for orgasm from same-sex sexual activities.

The idea of a man giving me a blowjob is supremely repulsive to me. But, if I had to spend the rest of my life in jail with men only, my brain would rewire itself, eventually, to get past this repulsion and enjoy the stimulation of receiving a blowjob from a guy - even though I would never feel any physical attraction whatsoever for the guy giving me a BJ and I would never reciprocate.

For me, it would take 5 years in jail or more to make me "bisexual" (in the sense of willingly accepting blowjobs from other men). For another straight guy - he might turn bisexual after just 5 months; another guy - 5 days. Its not all the same same across the board.

Kellydancer
05-09-2011, 11:29 AM
Wow - that's unbeleavable that a girl would engage in sex with women (without being curious or into it at all) just to impress some guy. I suppose, if he has a "cuckold" fetish and wants her to fuck random guys, she'd do that, too - sad and disgusting!

It's not always that clear. The one time I engaged in sex with a woman had to do with my then FWB asking me. He had been with many men and he knew I wanted to see it but he wanted to see me with her. So I did it. It had been a couple he had sex with many times so he knew them. Otherwise I doubt I would have. I would likely not repeat it with any other girl.

However, an exboyfriend (one I lived with) wanted to watch me with his friend. His friend was hot and we both had an attraction to each other so this I readily wanted to do. I was splitting from the boyfriend at this point and we knew it, so it was hot having sex with the friend. We did it other times too.

kaiarose
05-09-2011, 11:30 AM
I consider anyone that is sexually attracted in both male and females to be bisexual. I consider myself bisexual. I am married to a man but I still get aroused by women. I check women out as much as I check men out...actually more so, LOL.. I have had sexual relations with women but I have never dated a woman. I wanted to once though...*sigh*

jack0177057
05-09-2011, 11:35 AM
It's not always that clear. The one time I engaged in sex with a woman had to do with my then FWB asking me. He had been with many men and he knew I wanted to see it but he wanted to see me with her. So I did it. It had been a couple he had sex with many times so he knew them. Otherwise I doubt I would have. I would likely not repeat it with any other girl.

However, an exboyfriend (one I lived with) wanted to watch me with his friend. His friend was hot and we both had an attraction to each other so this I readily wanted to do. I was splitting from the boyfriend at this point and we knew it, so it was hot having sex with the friend. We did it other times too.

Kellydancer - You're so naughty. :D
It does make more sense, under these circumstances.
When are you posting a pic? ;)

jack0177057
05-09-2011, 11:37 AM
I consider anyone that is sexually attracted in both male and females to be bisexual. I consider myself bisexual. I am married to a man but I still get aroused by women. I check women out as much as I check men out...actually more so, LOL.. I have had sexual relations with women but I have never dated a woman. I wanted to once though...*sigh*

Got it - Bring lots of beer for Avery. Kaiarose does not need beer to be bi. :D

Kellydancer
05-09-2011, 11:41 AM
Kellydancer - You're so naughty. :D
It does make more sense, under these circumstances.
When are you posting a pic? ;)

My ex was the alcoholic I've mentioned a few times and unknown to him I had already been with his friend (his friend was far better looking). The FWB was a one shot deal and though he's asked me again I wasn't interested. In fact recently after 8 years he just called asking to get back together because he was "horny". I have a pattern with both FWBs and actual boyfriends coming back into my life months or years later. I probably won't get back with the FWB because to me that's a closed chapter of my life. It was fun in my 20's and early 30's but now I want more than sex.

I did post a photo a few days ago in chat and one day will do it on the board too.

jack0177057
05-09-2011, 12:44 PM
^ I missed it? :(

jennsweet
05-09-2011, 12:54 PM
i think if you dabble... ur bicurious, and if you like eating pussy but still love the cock...ur str8 up bi. if you like work boots and changing tires by yourself ur a lesbian.

kaiarose
05-09-2011, 01:21 PM
i think if you dabble... ur bicurious, and if you like eating pussy but still love the cock...ur str8 up bi. if you like work boots and changing tires by yourself ur a lesbian.

mmm...sweet tangy pussy..... I also love tribbing aka scissoring.. And there's something so much more sensual about kissing a woman. Soft lips, sensual, soft, caressing... I haven't found a girl I'm attracted to in 2 years, sigh..

UV69
05-09-2011, 02:31 PM
Wait I'm butch & a lesbian, but I don't change tires or wear work boots. Army boots maybe, but I git triple A & pretty hands so no that doesn't have anything to do with being a lesbian. Lesbian is simply a sexual preference for women.

princessjas
05-09-2011, 03:05 PM
I just always thought lesbian meant I don't do cock. Bi meant I do both because I want to and am attracted to both sexes.

noelle
05-09-2011, 05:12 PM
I also love tribbing aka scissoring..

Yep, this is my favorite thing ever. I used to look at a lot of girl on girl porn but not enough of it has tribbing... :'(

jack0177057
05-09-2011, 06:45 PM
mmm...sweet tangy pussy..... I also love tribbing aka scissoring.. And there's something so much more sensual about kissing a woman. Soft lips, sensual, soft, caressing... I haven't found a girl I'm attracted to in 2 years, sigh..

That's some sexy talk... I want you. :D
Can I help you find this girl?

mediocrity
05-09-2011, 08:41 PM
mmm...sweet tangy pussy..... I also love tribbing aka scissoring.. And there's something so much more sensual about kissing a woman. Soft lips, sensual, soft, caressing... I haven't found a girl I'm attracted to in 2 years, sigh..

Call me naive but I've never understood how this works!

Kellydancer
05-09-2011, 09:48 PM
I had to look that up to see what it was. Now I see what it is but I don't get the interest in it. Are the orgasms better doing that than oral?

pussyinboots
05-10-2011, 12:42 AM
Call me naive but I've never understood how this works!


At the risk of getting dreadfully horny.....I'll try and explain.

'Tribbing' is the act of mutual clitoral stimulation which involves both girls rubbing their vulvas against the other.

'Scissoring' is the way in which two girls can give each other this mutual clitoral stimulation, by interlocking their legs in a way that allows each partner to rub their kitty (and clitty) against the other's - whilst squeezing their thighs against the other girl's thighs (optional). 'Scissoring' isn't the only position that 'tribbing' can be done in - the missionary position allows girls to rub their vulvas against the other too, as can other positions. These links explain it clearer than I can..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribadism

http://tribbing.org/


I had to look that up to see what it was. Now I see what it is but I don't get the interest in it. Are the orgasms better doing that than oral?

As with any kind of sexual stimulation, the intensity of the orgasm is a completely individual experience. It's just that 'tribbing' and 'scissoring' happen to be practical ways of how two girls can pleasure each other.

Personally, I love it, but then I'm into curvy girls with thick legs - and legs play a large part in any 'scissoring' activity.

Wikipedia and Lesbian websites don't give you a proper idea of the intimacy involved...you really have to try it out yourself (if you're so inclined). Of course, you don't just strip off and lock legs straightaway.....the whole foreplay, and kissing and cuddling and stroking thing still takes place.......

Oh Pheew....

mediocrity
05-10-2011, 02:06 AM
Thanks for explaining, PIB! I've always wondered how it worked. One of life's little mysteries: SOLVED! :)

miss1dancypants
05-10-2011, 05:11 AM
i personally think bisexual is having no preference in a relationship whether the person is male or female... "equal opportunist" as tamra said on real housewives of oc lol. if you could be in a serious relationship with a man, but could NOT see yourself ever in serious relationship with a woman, then you are not bi. that is my take on it.

JayATee
05-10-2011, 10:03 AM
Orgasm during rape (assuming this happens) is an aberration -




Exactly, that's my point - nearly everyone has the capacity to orgasm from sexual interaction with either gender.


Umm.... think you may have contradicted yourself here. ::)

jack0177057
05-10-2011, 01:44 PM
^ The first statement involves a criminal act of violence. The second statement assumes a voluntary and consensual act.

princessjas
05-10-2011, 01:49 PM
'Scissoring' isn't the only position that 'tribbing' can be done in - the missionary position allows girls to rub their vulvas against the other too, as can other positions.

Yes! My gf doesnt do scissoring at all. Says it feels too impersonal, but we do missonary on the regular.

Also, oyy do some of the posts in this thread make my head hurt.

JayATee
05-10-2011, 08:58 PM
^ The first statement involves a criminal act of violence. The second statement assumes a voluntary and consensual act.

OMFG are you seriously this freakin' clueless dude? I mean for real?? I seriously wonder how you tie your shoes in the morning. Let me guess... you wear those slip on loafers....

SEXUAL INTERACTION CAN CAUSE AN ORGASM. Regardless of whether the act is voluntary or consensual.... that was the damn point of my post... Smfh... ::)

noelle
05-10-2011, 09:31 PM
At the risk of getting dreadfully horny.....I'll try and explain.

My thoughts exactly! :D Hahaha. I love it.


'Scissoring' isn't the only position that 'tribbing' can be done in - the missionary position allows girls to rub their vulvas against the other too, as can other positions.

Yes, I feel like scissoring is a misleading name because you just imagine the girls lying way far away from each other and rubbing vulvas. I've always done it missionary in a hot, grinding fashion, leaving our hands free to wander everywhere...

Oh dear, now I'm getting dreadfully horny :-*

jack0177057
05-11-2011, 08:16 AM
OMFG are you seriously this freakin' clueless dude? I mean for real?? I seriously wonder how you tie your shoes in the morning. Let me guess... you wear those slip on loafers....

LOL,... I'm wearing loafers right now.


SEXUAL INTERACTION CAN CAUSE AN ORGASM. Regardless of whether the act is voluntary or consensual.... that was the damn point of my post... Smfh... ::)

When I think of orgasms - I don't think of rape,... ever,... the two seem like polar opposites - orgasm being a wonderful thing - a "mind-blowing" climax of pleasure - and rape being a climax of violence, brutality, pain, humiliation and degradation.

Yes, I have heard that a woman can orgasm during rape, but: (1) I suspect that its a rare phenomenon, and (2) its obviously not the type of "orgasm" I was referring to (i.e., a climax of pleasure).

I suspect (and obviously I don't have first-hand experience) that the "orgasm" experienced by rape victims is purely a bodily reaction with orgasmic-type of convulsions, but no pleasure at all. Really, it shouldn't even be called an "orgasm".

So Fine Divyne
05-11-2011, 03:58 PM
I always thought that bisexual meant you are completely equally interested in both men and women and can not decide which one you like more. I think that if you prefer men and like to sleep with women on occasion you simply are trysexual(try different sexual things) and like to have fun. Or if you are a guy and like girls but have sex with guys on occasion same thing. My friends and I coined the phrase "hightry girls" for chicks who under the influence of substances like to try things they are sexually curious about, but otherwise wouldn't do sober.

Mindy Bares All
05-11-2011, 04:00 PM
^^^^ I think that constitutes bi-curious....

sananeko
05-11-2011, 07:03 PM
Why do I feel like we are slowly having a another fight in here..

jack0177057
05-11-2011, 07:59 PM
^ Isn't that how every thread ends?

sananeko
05-11-2011, 08:01 PM
True.. But I was hoping for once a sex or religious thread would not have a fight..

Kellydancer
05-11-2011, 08:19 PM
Unfortunately that seems to be a problem in every thread on every forum.

UV69
05-11-2011, 09:24 PM
An o is something that can happen if a girl gets a piercing that hits her clit the right way & it does physically happen to many girls that are raped so I don't think any1 can argue that it can very well be an involuntary re-action to things a person might not even feel the slight bit of sexual attraction in.

I am a lesbian, but orally any1 that really knows what they are doing can physically make me cum if i had my eyes closed I probably couldn't tell the difference between some men or women doing that to me--though facial hair can be a give away. Still doesn't change the fact I'm not sexually attracted to 99.9% of men & I definitely prefer women hands down, but becuz I would do a young Brad Pit & Angelina I don't think that would make me bi any more then I would think of that 3some as an exception where his dick still wouldn't go anywhere near me as I really do find it kinda sexually unattractive to me even if I do think he was sexy back in the days.


Still sexuality really isn't ez to label & it's much more fluid which a much larger scale of diversity then just gay bi or str8. People experiment, might go thur phases, have needs, make exceptions, have sex for many reasons beyond personal desire, & just are too complicated to str8 means never having gay sex or bi means equally desiring of both, or being gay means never of having str8 sex. It might be the case for some, but there is alot more greys in human sexuality 100% gay or str8 or bi being 50/50 as if some1 would actually take turns on what sex they want to be with based on last was a girl so now it has to be a male type of mentality.

Bi or lesbian can be a girl that never slept with another woman at all, but who has repressed that desired that has always been part of her. The same way some bigirls want to only have sex with men but prefer relationships with men. Or a str8 guy in prison long enough might have gay sex & not consider himself bi at all.

mediocrity
05-11-2011, 10:03 PM
LOL,... I'm wearing loafers right now.



When I think of orgasms - I don't think of rape,... ever,... the two seem like polar opposites - orgasm being a wonderful thing - a "mind-blowing" climax of pleasure - and rape being a climax of violence, brutality, pain, humiliation and degradation.

Yes, I have heard that a woman can orgasm during rape, but: (1) I suspect that its a rare phenomenon, and (2) its obviously not the type of "orgasm" I was referring to (i.e., a climax of pleasure).

I suspect (and obviously I don't have first-hand experience) that the "orgasm" experienced by rape victims is purely a bodily reaction with orgasmic-type of convulsions, but no pleasure at all. Really, it shouldn't even be called an "orgasm".

You know Jack, normally I can get behind what you're trying to say, but after this post- I'm going to assume you've never been raped, so I don't really think you have any ground to stand upon in regards to that subject.

jack0177057
05-12-2011, 07:47 AM
^ I said - "I suspect (and obviously I don't have first-hand experience) that the "orgasm" experienced by rape victims is purely a bodily reaction with orgasmic-type of convulsions, but no pleasure at all."

Are you saying that victims of rape may experience some pleasure during the rape? - I'm not asking this in an argumentative or judgmental tone, I'm just surprised to learn this.

princessjas
05-12-2011, 09:50 AM
^ I said - "I suspect (and obviously I don't have first-hand experience) that the "orgasm" experienced by rape victims is purely a bodily reaction with orgasmic-type of convulsions, but no pleasure at all."

Are you saying that victims of rape may experience some pleasure during the rape? - I'm not asking this in an argumentative or judgmental tone, I'm just surprised to learn this.

Ever been raped by someone you are dating and half in love with? Who knows your body and how to make it respond? You're hurting and terrified, but things started out ok and you were already turned on....now you dont know what the hell is going on. Does this make it less of a rape somehow? This is the scenario in a lot of unreported rapes, btw.

jack0177057
05-12-2011, 12:42 PM
^ I didn't say it "makes it less of a rape" - I just never knew that a rape victim could have such contradicting feelings of horror/shock/hurt/humiliation, and also, some part of her feels pleasure. Obviously, it is still a rape and not "less of a rape".

unbeleavable
05-12-2011, 01:23 PM
I always thought that bisexual meant you are completely equally interested in both men and women and can not decide which one you like more. I think that if you prefer men and like to sleep with women on occasion you simply are trysexual(try different sexual things) and like to have fun. Or if you are a guy and like girls but have sex with guys on occasion same thing. My friends and I coined the phrase "hightry girls" for chicks who under the influence of substances like to try things they are sexually curious about, but otherwise wouldn't do sober.

I will admit as a man its hard to understand a man that sleeps with other men on occasion...as Bi. I just put them in the gay category..idk

UV69
05-12-2011, 02:24 PM
^ I said - "I suspect (and obviously I don't have first-hand experience) that the "orgasm" experienced by rape victims is purely a bodily reaction with orgasmic-type of convulsions, but no pleasure at all."

Are you saying that victims of rape may experience some pleasure during the rape? - I'm not asking this in an argumentative or judgmental tone, I'm just surprised to learn this.

Jake just to be informative many women (& men who had been raped) do have physical orgasms while being raped --many of my ex gfs felt betrayed by their bodies for feeling pleasure during such a traumatic experience.

No1 wants to be raped (or it wouldn't be rape) nor do they feel they got pleasure out of being raped by any means--orgasms that physically happen during rape are not thought of in that way that went against a person's desire (rape is about taking not giving). However much like pain can turn into pleasure at a certain point where your body releases adrenaline to help a person deal with a stressful situation well getting raped can also trigger the same under the trauma of surviving during the sexual attack. However some1 could very ezly get pleasure from the adrenaline rush itself & other physical aspects of the sex itself rape or not.

However this thread is about bisexuality which can't be defined by orgasms (psyhically forced or not) as if that was the case what would be the sexuality of some1 who has sex with both sex but only reaches orgasm with a vibrator?

mediocrity
05-12-2011, 02:32 PM
Ever been raped by someone you are dating and half in love with? Who knows your body and how to make it respond? You're hurting and terrified, but things started out ok and you were already turned on....now you dont know what the hell is going on. Does this make it less of a rape somehow? This is the scenario in a lot of unreported rapes, btw.

This, and other unconventional rape situations, are what I was trying to get at. Thanks Jas.

jack0177057
05-12-2011, 03:15 PM
Jake just to be informative many women (& men who had been raped) do have physical orgasms while being raped --many of my ex gfs felt betrayed by their bodies for feeling pleasure during such a traumatic experience.

No1 wants to be raped (or it wouldn't be rape) nor do they feel they got pleasure out of being raped by any means--orgasms that physically happen during rape are not thought of in that way that went against a person's desire (rape is about taking not giving). However much like pain can turn into pleasure at a certain point where your body releases adrenaline to help a person deal with a stressful situation well getting raped can also trigger the same under the trauma of surviving during the sexual attack. However some1 could very ezly get pleasure from the adrenaline rush itself & other physical aspects of the sex itself rape or not.

I think I understand. I never thought of that before. That must really mess with someone's head - to be through such a brutal, violent and traumatic event, yet to have had moments of pleasure and even an orgasm during it. I can't even begin to imagine how confusing that must be to the victim.


However this thread is about bisexuality which can't be defined by orgasms (psyhically forced or not) as if that was the case what would be the sexuality of some1 who has sex with both sex but only reaches orgasm with a vibrator?

Idk. -- That does throw a monkey wrench into my theory. I have to either ignore your question or rething my theory...

I think enjoying sex with both genders (even without orgasm) is the fundamental issue. If you have sex with both genders, but do not enjoy it (for example, a gay-for-pay porn star or a person that pretends to be bi for her partner's viewing pleasure) - I don't think that person is really bi.

On the other hand, if you enjoy sex with both genders and consensually participate in sexual activities with both genders, I think that makes you bi - even if you only have romantic relationships with the opposite sex and only feel attraction for the opposite sex.

The blind taste test - Coke and Pepsi use the blind taste test to prove preference for their product when bias and prejudice is removed. If the same test was used for sexual orientation, I think it would prove that most people are or can become bi to some extent.

sananeko
05-12-2011, 03:28 PM
The blind taste test - Coke and Pepsi use the blind taste test to prove preference for their product when bias and prejudice is removed. If the same test was used for sexual orientation, I think it would prove that most people are or can become bi to some extent.
But that is just sex... This is about what your attracted to, not to what feels good. Think of it this way.. would you sit down blindfolded and let random people do something sexual things to you? What you are talking about doesn't even matter here cause your talking about what feels good, we are talking about what we are attracted to. Now if your saying your attracted to not knowing what is jumping you we can add that to your preference of sexuality.