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UV69
05-12-2011, 03:43 PM
I think most people are not looking to have to have sex with blindfolds in order to enjoy the physical feeling of a wet mouth. I like to think most people are sexually attracted to more of the package of another person then that. That to me only proves some people are better then others at giving oral, but that might not even be a factor some1 cares that much about in who they are attracted to. I've been with women who were great at oral, but that didn't change how attracted to them I was more then I just considered it a bonus to my attraction to them. It wouldn't make or break my attraction to some1 though.

JayATee
05-12-2011, 05:20 PM
LOL,... I'm wearing loafers right now.

Im fucking shocked.




When I think of orgasms - I don't think of rape.

So? How is this relevant? What you "think" doesn't change actual facts. I'm sure they taught you this in law school... ignorance is irrelevant.

Mindy Bares All
05-12-2011, 06:01 PM
^^^ Guys, how does this relate to the original topic?

jack0177057
05-12-2011, 07:10 PM
But that is just sex... This is about what your attracted to, not to what feels good.


I like to think most people are sexually attracted to more of the package of another person then that. That to me only proves some people are better then others at giving oral, but that might not even be a factor some1 cares that much about in who they are attracted to.

My best friend P is a lesbian and she hangs out with the GLBT crowd. I had a similar debate with her. She said there are "straight" guys that will sometimes join them (the GLBT crowd) and will have sex/get serviced by the gay guys. But, she swears these guys are straight, not gay or bi, and it is purely a sexual thing. She said these guys have GFs or wives and the interaction with the gay men is purely sexual - these "straight guys" are just using the gay men to get off (I suppose the GF or wife is not willing or not available). She calls them "kinky", because they are "straight" guys who will do "kinky" sex things with anyone.

My opinion is that they are bisexual (if not gay) because they are engaging in sexual acts with people of the same gender.

Would both of you agree with P that they are straight, even though they are getting serviced by men?

jack0177057
05-12-2011, 07:25 PM
So? How is this relevant? What you "think" doesn't change actual facts. I'm sure they taught you this in law school... ignorance is irrelevant.

It is only irrelevant if you actually know what you are ignorant about. But that's a moot point.

Trem
05-12-2011, 07:51 PM
Being attracted to both sexes makes you bi, it has nothing to do with actually having sex.

sananeko
05-12-2011, 07:57 PM
^ Thank you... Thank you.. Thank you...

UV69
05-12-2011, 09:38 PM
I would consider those who are str8 but have gay sex for pleasure hetero-flexible or undercover bi to a degree or maybe they just don't care where they get sex from so long as they are getting some & they should just be called sluts lol

However as I been with many str8 girls (either experimenting, undercover, making an exception, or just horny )-- I just see str8 as just another sexual preference that doesn't have to be 100% anything

pussyinboots
05-12-2011, 11:08 PM
Being attracted to both sexes makes you bi, it has nothing to do with actually having sex.

To bring us back onto the original topic, this is my understanding as well.

In the main, there are only two sexes on this planet - male and female - and this fact of biology applies to animals as well as human beings. There are notable exceptions, such as the 'Venus Flytrap' in the plant world, and the 'Sea-Horse' in the animal world - which have both sexes in one (hermaphrodite) - and reproduce as one. This is not found in human beings.

Therefore, as far as humans are concerned in the accepted biological sense - I have always understood that bi-sexual means, that whatever gender you may be, you are physically attracted to both your own and the opposite sex.

jack0177057
05-13-2011, 08:14 AM
Being attracted to both sexes makes you bi, it has nothing to do with actually having sex.

I accept that most women on this thread agree with this opinion and I am not trying to change their view.

But, I think most "normal" straight guys would disagree and would regard a man who periodically engages in sex with other men as gay or bi (or bi-curious - whatever that means), even if that guy has a GF or wife and has no attraction/romantic involvement with the same sex.

firemaiden04
05-13-2011, 08:43 AM
^ If the man is physically attracted to both men and women, he is bisexual. It's pretty simple.

princessjas
05-13-2011, 09:12 AM
I srsly cant beleive this thread has went on for 5 pages! If you are attracted to both sexes, you are bi! Pretty darn simple!!

jack0177057
05-13-2011, 10:33 AM
^ This is a poll, people have different opinions on this issue. There is no consensus - never will be.

So far, the highest percentage (45%) think: "Sex with the same sex, doesn't have to mean a relationship"

I'm not sure what this means, though. A purely sexual/non-romantic relationship is still a type of "relationship" (like fuck-buddy relationship).

Does this category mean: (a) no relationship because one-night stands/casual hookup with same sex without any attraction; or (b) no relationship because, although attracted to same sex, person only want "relationships" (whatever that means) with the opposite sex.

lestat1
05-13-2011, 10:39 AM
The poll choices confused me. I answered "even one time makes someone bisexual" - but really it's not even that. Just being attracted to both genders is enough.

JayATee
05-13-2011, 11:47 AM
Jack, a one night stand isn't any type of relationship. Neither are random hook ups. If I see a girl I think will be a good time I may try and take her home, that doesn't mean I want to date her or ever even call her again after, it means for that evening I want to have sex with her. Nothing more nothing less.

jack0177057
05-13-2011, 12:07 PM
^ I agree that a one night stand is not a "relationship".

sananeko
05-13-2011, 03:25 PM
Its why I didn't pick anything on the poll cause alot of it doesn't even match with the topic.

lexxxi
05-14-2011, 01:16 PM
I am bisexual. I live with my bf and gf and have for three years now. I like girls more than guys but would not want to be with just a female.

So Fine Divyne
05-15-2011, 02:10 AM
^^^^ I think that constitutes bi-curious....

I think that if you do things when you are under the influence you know exactly what you are doing, but are afraid/ashamed of what others might say if it were known that you are sober so the substance is used as an excuse to do what you really want to do anyway. I knew a lot of girls who talked about hooking up with people, but waited until they were drunk to do it so if questioned or it went bad could say,"well I was drunk." I know plenty of girls who get drunk and don't say,"Hey, I think I'll sleep with a girl." They know that they are not interested drunk, sober or otherwise. I think "hightry" is a copout and different from simply being curious.

JayATee
06-02-2011, 06:40 PM
I am bisexual. I live with my bf and gf and have for three years now. I like girls more than guys but would not want to be with just a female.

I'm super jealous! My gf and bf hate eachother. :(

lfr
06-02-2011, 06:55 PM
I disagree and don't think having sex once makes someone bisexual.

I disagree. But let me explain. Basically, I think everyone IS bisexual anyways. In the right situation, or whatnot, I think people are basically capable of having sex with each other, no matter what they are thinking. And that's what makes someone bi, the physical aspect of it, not the mental.

N.B. - Of course, this does NOT include rape.

Have I ever had sex with a guy? No. And I don't plan on it, but what if all women were wiped out and my only sexual outlet was a guy. Guys would be doing guys.

I think people who willingly do sexual things with a same sex, but then say they feel nothing, are lying to themselves, as going through the act proves that they are capable of acting sexually with their own sex, so why would they NOT be bi? I just don't get it.

Kellydancer
06-02-2011, 07:23 PM
I disagree. But let me explain. Basically, I think everyone IS bisexual anyways. In the right situation, or whatnot, I think people are basically capable of having sex with each other, no matter what they are thinking. And that's what makes someone bi, the physical aspect of it, not the mental.

N.B. - Of course, this does NOT include rape.

Have I ever had sex with a guy? No. And I don't plan on it, but what if all women were wiped out and my only sexual outlet was a guy. Guys would be doing guys.

I think people who willingly do sexual things with a same sex, but then say they feel nothing, are lying to themselves, as going through the act proves that they are capable of acting sexually with their own sex, so why would they NOT be bi? I just don't get it.

Because experimenting doesn't mean one is bi. If I snorted cocaine one time that would not make me a drug addict. Since you are referring to me having sex with a woman once and not feeling, no I am not bi and wouldn't consider myself bi. However, if I planned to have sex with a woman again that could possibly make me bi.

lfr
06-02-2011, 08:21 PM
Because experimenting doesn't mean one is bi. If I snorted cocaine one time that would not make me a drug addict. Since you are referring to me having sex with a woman once and not feeling, no I am not bi and wouldn't consider myself bi. However, if I planned to have sex with a woman again that could possibly make me bi.
see, but I don't relate the drug addict thing to sexuality through experimentation. not everyone who has a beer is an alcoholic, but the potential is there. I don't know if there's a word for that.

For everything, there's a potential to take it to the extreme, but the fact that one IS willing to experiment does mean that they have at least opened the gates for further sexuality in that manner (which I think is the way we are anyways, as I've said above). And I think someone who, for even slight, flirtacious reasons, acts sexually in some way can be deemed to be whatever word would describe their actions, here, 'bi'. Even if you never have the desire to do anything again in your lifetime, at one point in your life, you proved your sexuality, and it was with both genders, hence the 'bi-sexuality'.

I don't know why the stigma of bi is so prevalent in people who experiment (lots of girls). I mean I can understand in society, or whatever being labeled by others, but to themselves, why is the self stigma so important? Sry, really nothing to do with your post. Just thinking...

Kellydancer
06-02-2011, 08:34 PM
Because I am not bi. I have nothing against it, it wasn't for me. One time doesn't make one anything and yes it is the same thing as saying a person who drank a beer is an alcoholic. Doing drugs one time is experimenting as is one same sex experience. If I was bi I would have no problem saying it, but no I am not bi.

lfr
06-02-2011, 08:43 PM
Because I am not bi. I have nothing against it, it wasn't for me. One time doesn't make one anything and yes it is the same thing as saying a person who drank a beer is an alcoholic. Doing drugs one time is experimenting as is one same sex experience. If I was bi I would have no problem saying it, but no I am not bi.
okay, I meant no offense. I have nothing against bis or gays or straights either. those were just my feelings on the subject. labels are stupid. I don't care. just be a good person is good for me. :)

*handshake*?

lemiwinks31
06-03-2011, 10:06 AM
Being attracted to both sexes makes you bi, it has nothing to do with actually having sex.


yeah.....its the definition. If you take it to mean something else, thats fine, you are free to do whatever you want. But this is how it is defined:

Websters:

of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward both sexes.


Kelly is correct.

doing it once when you are drunk, or experimenting just to see what it is like is not a tendancy

princessjas
06-03-2011, 04:22 PM
Why dont we let the actual bisexuals decide what defines it? Notice we pretty much all seem to think its being sexually attracted to both sexes? More a mentality than some drunk stupid experimenting. I am bisexual, Ive always known I was, because I crush on both men and women....pretty darn simple.

Kellydancer
06-03-2011, 04:38 PM
Why dont we let the actual bisexuals decide what defines it? Notice we pretty much all seem to think its being sexually attracted to both sexes? More a mentality than some drunk stupid experimenting. I am bisexual, Ive always known I was, because I crush on both men and women....pretty darn simple.

I think this is correct. I've known many bisexual people and they knew from an early age they were attracted to both. The ones I've known (this doesn't everyone just them) generally preferred one sex for relationships but did know a woman who went from boyfriend to girlfriend often.

princessjas
06-03-2011, 04:45 PM
^^I also generally prefer men for relationships, but recently had a wonderful gf. Idealy Id like one of each. lol If I had to choose tho, men are something I need, women are something, I just want really badly!

pussyinboots
06-04-2011, 12:13 AM
Why dont we let the actual bisexuals decide what defines it? Notice we pretty much all seem to think its being sexually attracted to both sexes? More a mentality than some drunk stupid experimenting. I am bisexual, Ive always known I was, because I crush on both men and women....pretty darn simple.


^^I also generally prefer men for relationships, but recently had a wonderful gf. Idealy Id like one of each. lol If I had to choose tho, men are something I need, women are something, I just want really badly!

This...and this...!

I've been aware of my bisexuality since I was about 20 - and this is absolutely right. Bisexual is fundamentally being physically attracted to, and turned on by both sexes. I have been exceedingly lucky as I have enjoyed some intensely stimulating relationships with some gorgeous, gorgeous girls....both physically and spiritually. They were all much more than 'playthings' too.

However when it comes to a partner - my choice has been a man. Not that I wouldn't LOVE to have a live-in 'girlfriend with benefits' as well.....but then I'm greedy like that.

*sigh* I really adore girls...they're sooo dang hot:):-*

Nickirose20
12-11-2013, 02:21 AM
I tend to think most people are bisexual and I tend to think if you had a same sex kiss you're either bi or gay/lesbian. Any type of same sex relations IMO makes a person at least bisexual.
People say I'm straight when I say straight that means I'm totally turned off by females and could never find girls appealing as they have no sex appeal like guys do. Since I was little I didn't like seeing lesbians even kiss because it was a turn off but I have always liked threesomes and group sex with a lot guys. And got turned on by gay porn(men). Basically when you're straight you only dream/think/look at guys. You only have desires to kiss perform sex acts or have sex with the opposite sex. A little attraction to the same sex negates only being attracted to the opposite sex for sexual purposes.

But I don't really see myself as the exact definition as straight because I do like boobs and ass. And wouldn't mind touching a girl's boobs or slapping ass but even if I did the emotion that comes with it is pretty playful and not much desire. I do find transgirls preops attractive though and I'd sleep with one given the chance... But I don't like them more than guys it's just like another option I'm open to. I just find girls a little too weak and soft it has no natural chemistry. But I do with maabs.

Most would say I'm not bisexual because I do t want sex with girls and find it gross. But I think there are straighter girls than myself and some actually care about gender expression. And are attracted to masculinity while I prefer feminine gender expression leanings and a male body. So that's my opinion.

gummy
12-22-2013, 10:34 PM
I also just want to throw out there that there's more to sexual orientation than gay, straight, or bi.

I consider myself to be pansexual, though I often just tell people that I'm bi because it requires less explaining.

I usually say I'm pansexual to those who I assume would understand
otherwise I just say I'm straight. Because they either get it or they don't.

To me bisexuals are attracted to and are willing to have a relationship with male and female (both cisgendered/trans)
I mean we're all gay in some way experimenting and fooling around doesn't make you bi.

simone87
12-22-2013, 10:47 PM
i know this is an old-ass thread, hope i don't get in trouble for bumping it even though its been bumped twice. but i'd like to point out, who you are sexually attracted to, and who you are romantically attracted to are two different categories. for instsance, i could be bi-sexual ( meaning i am attracted SEXUALLY to both genders) AND i could be heteoromantic ( meaning i prefer romantic, serious relationships with the opposite sex). so who you want to fuck, and who you want romance are different categories.

AmethystLily
12-23-2013, 02:21 AM
You don't need to have sex with someone of the same sex in order to see if you prefer it or not. Does anybody ever say, "How do you know you're straight? Maybe you should have sex so that you're sure." No, they don't. I knew I was bisexual since I was seventeen, and probably would have come out to myself sooner if it weren't for the negative attitudes around me concerning anything other than heterosexual relationships.

Also, there are plenty of gay people who have heterosexual relationships for years before making that self-discovery or coming out as gay.

Picture a mother telling her four-year-old to eat their liver or no dessert. Even though the child hates liver, they want dessert, but of course they're going to eat it. But does it mean they like liver? (I don't necessarily agree with that tactic, but it's one that's very commonly used. But I digress.)

*climbs off of soapbox*

gummy
12-24-2013, 07:21 PM
i know this is an old-ass thread, hope i don't get in trouble for bumping it even though its been bumped twice. but i'd like to point out, who you are sexually attracted to, and who you are romantically attracted to are two different categories. for instsance, i could be bi-sexual ( meaning i am attracted SEXUALLY to both genders) AND i could be heteoromantic ( meaning i prefer romantic, serious relationships with the opposite sex). so who you want to fuck, and who you want romance are different categories.

I see your point.

Generally speaking tho sexually usually greatly influences the romantic side of things.
I know some bisexuals prefer one gender over the other for some things but for the most part aren't 100% shut off the the idea of both sexes romantically

Either way if we have to start going around calling ourselves heterosexual demiromantic's or what have you I might implode. lol xD
Labels really shouldn't be all that necessary but a lot of the time we need them not for anyone else's benefit but our own and I don't know why that is...

Renee89
12-24-2013, 07:43 PM
Not sure I'd ever date a girl. Maybe if I experienced a span of loneliness in my life but I just enjoy the physical attraction.

Trixia
12-25-2013, 12:21 AM
I tHink it's more than just having had sex with Someone of the same gender. I've been with girls but don't really consider myself bi. I think to be bi you have to be oPen to wanting a relationship with the same sex.

I'll kiss girls or girlfriends for fun. I've been in 3some s where I've kissed the other girl and let her eat me out since that's what she wanted too do. But I'm not really into that other than just superficially.

I can admire another girls tits and ass, but other than that I really don't want anything else. Usually it's a comparison between what v I've got and what she has. And while I may think she's hot, I'm not sexually into her.

I'm just not into girls. I'll do sexual stuff with them but I've done sexual stuff with a lot of pEople. I don't go looking for it, it just happens on occasion.

Hard to explain. Lol. All I can truly say, is that sex is complicated.