Optimist
06-01-2011, 11:28 AM
If you decide to come to Vegas be careful. Things have changed out here. They are charging outrageous up front fees and a lot of girls are getting ripped off. (anywhere from $100 - $150 including all of the "mandatory" tip outs) Now days a lot of girls are in debt to these clubs by hundreds of dollars.
A lot of the clubs won't let guys pay the girls in cash for vip. In most of these clubs you have to do 2 vips for free in order to make your house and tip out. Plus you don't make much for vip anymore. It used to be 3 songs for a 100 or half hour for 300 or an hour for 500. Now it's 80 for 3 songs, 180 for half and 240 for an hour. Of course they won't tell you or the custy about all of the fees up front. You will find out the hard way; after the fact. Let's say you're in debt for hundreds and the club sends in a "secret shopper" or one of their friends to pretend like they are a custy. They agree to do a vip with you. You just did that vip for no money because they will take it.
Some of the clubs that allow guys to pay cash will try to steal your money by saying we will hold it for you. If a guy pays with credit card they will wait til you are done with your vip and tell you to come back for your $ cause "they don't want to do a financial transaction in front of the custy." When you go back to get your money they will keep saying come back then eventually they will tell you that the signatures don't match so they need to hold your $ for 90 days. In other words you just got scammed.
Most of these clubs put girls on stage constantly even when there are no custys tipping at all. They will also hook up certain girls with custys right off the bat, so you have no chance of making a sale. Then they want you to go on stage and take off your clothes to keep these customers entertained for free. Even though you have no chance of making a sale because they are already hooked up.
I have known girls who have been charged hundreds for leaving early because they were injured at work or had to leave early to go to the emergency room.
You will have no protection from bouncers at all. The only thing they do is say give me your money bitch. Because there is no longer any law requiring bouncers and club owners to take responsibility for what happens in the club, guys will grab all over you for $20 dances. They will even grab at your p#s%) - aka attempted rape. No bouncer will say or do anything.
Plus they arrest a lot of girls out here on a regular basis. Be very careful about what you say to the custy because it could be an undercover. They will arrest 90 girls at one club in one day. Some actually are hookers or try to rip guys off by saying they will do anything. Just be aware.
Most house moms are 300 pound pan handlers who bring in crappy super fattening food that no dancer would eat anyways. They demand payment whether you eat their crap or not. (I have no problem with paying someone who does something to help and there are a few good house moms, but very few.)
So now you know what dancing in Vegas is for real. If you decide to check it out anyways - who knows - maybe you will get lucky. It's possible.
You would probably be better off staying at a weekly like Desert Tides on the west side of the strip. Full kitchen washer and dryer. ? 300 a week?
pimps and managers pretending to be strippers go ahead - flame away, flame away
Loren's post presented POSSIBILITIES and examples and you, trishaxxxo, hysterically flipped it into "OMG OMG DONT COME TO VEGAS ALL KINDS OF HORRIBLE THINGS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU". She didn't say anything close to that. You did. Is it her fault you went batshit over her well intentioned and well founded reply.
you ALREADY ADMITTED you have never danced at one of the bigger clubs in LV so you obviously have no personal experience to back up your wild claims. I am in LV right now visiting and have been dancing for almost a month here and have not had any of those problems.
She was being sarcastic. She didn't make shit up she just shared what she knows as a vet of Vegas clubs. You've worked a week or two and have jumped on her ass like you know the scene inside and out but you list more top clubs you couldn't get into than could. You're less qualified to throw down on this subject than you think. It's cool to be supportive but not to lead people to possible slaughter by shutting down people with more practical experience and knowledge. Just my opinion on it. ;)
You can check out the experiences and opinions of others who've worked Vegas and get an eyeful of the crap they pull there that is so uniquely Vegas. Most people would much rather share the story of the $3,000 night than the times they left owing the club and share how the manager loves them rather than how they were bumped for not tipping enough to the pimps--I mean, bouncers.
A lot of the clubs won't let guys pay the girls in cash for vip. In most of these clubs you have to do 2 vips for free in order to make your house and tip out. Plus you don't make much for vip anymore. It used to be 3 songs for a 100 or half hour for 300 or an hour for 500. Now it's 80 for 3 songs, 180 for half and 240 for an hour. Of course they won't tell you or the custy about all of the fees up front. You will find out the hard way; after the fact. Let's say you're in debt for hundreds and the club sends in a "secret shopper" or one of their friends to pretend like they are a custy. They agree to do a vip with you. You just did that vip for no money because they will take it.
Some of the clubs that allow guys to pay cash will try to steal your money by saying we will hold it for you. If a guy pays with credit card they will wait til you are done with your vip and tell you to come back for your $ cause "they don't want to do a financial transaction in front of the custy." When you go back to get your money they will keep saying come back then eventually they will tell you that the signatures don't match so they need to hold your $ for 90 days. In other words you just got scammed.
Most of these clubs put girls on stage constantly even when there are no custys tipping at all. They will also hook up certain girls with custys right off the bat, so you have no chance of making a sale. Then they want you to go on stage and take off your clothes to keep these customers entertained for free. Even though you have no chance of making a sale because they are already hooked up.
I have known girls who have been charged hundreds for leaving early because they were injured at work or had to leave early to go to the emergency room.
You will have no protection from bouncers at all. The only thing they do is say give me your money bitch. Because there is no longer any law requiring bouncers and club owners to take responsibility for what happens in the club, guys will grab all over you for $20 dances. They will even grab at your p#s%) - aka attempted rape. No bouncer will say or do anything.
Plus they arrest a lot of girls out here on a regular basis. Be very careful about what you say to the custy because it could be an undercover. They will arrest 90 girls at one club in one day. Some actually are hookers or try to rip guys off by saying they will do anything. Just be aware.
Most house moms are 300 pound pan handlers who bring in crappy super fattening food that no dancer would eat anyways. They demand payment whether you eat their crap or not. (I have no problem with paying someone who does something to help and there are a few good house moms, but very few.)
So now you know what dancing in Vegas is for real. If you decide to check it out anyways - who knows - maybe you will get lucky. It's possible.
You would probably be better off staying at a weekly like Desert Tides on the west side of the strip. Full kitchen washer and dryer. ? 300 a week?
pimps and managers pretending to be strippers go ahead - flame away, flame away
Loren's post presented POSSIBILITIES and examples and you, trishaxxxo, hysterically flipped it into "OMG OMG DONT COME TO VEGAS ALL KINDS OF HORRIBLE THINGS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU". She didn't say anything close to that. You did. Is it her fault you went batshit over her well intentioned and well founded reply.
you ALREADY ADMITTED you have never danced at one of the bigger clubs in LV so you obviously have no personal experience to back up your wild claims. I am in LV right now visiting and have been dancing for almost a month here and have not had any of those problems.
She was being sarcastic. She didn't make shit up she just shared what she knows as a vet of Vegas clubs. You've worked a week or two and have jumped on her ass like you know the scene inside and out but you list more top clubs you couldn't get into than could. You're less qualified to throw down on this subject than you think. It's cool to be supportive but not to lead people to possible slaughter by shutting down people with more practical experience and knowledge. Just my opinion on it. ;)
You can check out the experiences and opinions of others who've worked Vegas and get an eyeful of the crap they pull there that is so uniquely Vegas. Most people would much rather share the story of the $3,000 night than the times they left owing the club and share how the manager loves them rather than how they were bumped for not tipping enough to the pimps--I mean, bouncers.