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Hopper
06-02-2011, 07:50 AM
Am I the only person who still believes a lap dance shouldn't include someone jizzing in their pants? I mean I understand SOME grinding, but come the fuck on. Won't this also cut down on per customer spending? Why else would they continue to spend once they've gotten what they wanted? Dancing is about the illusion of sex- it's FANTASY. Once you cross that boundary, then it's a slippery slope from there on out.

If I hadn't already retired, I would if these came to my club. This completely changes the purposes of buying a dance. To me, it is no longer a dance, but intentionally masturbating men to completion- and I'm not ok with that, especially in our market up here.

I think it's gross for customers to come in their pants. To me LDs are not masturbation or substitute sex. It is as undesirable for me to come mid-LD as it is financially undesirable for you (the dancer): it means I don't enjoy the whole LD and the excitement from being at the SC is lost for some time after. But I think if you have LDs with grinding, you are already on the slippery slope to indirect masturbation. Coming is the natural next step following erection (though not necessary) and grinding doesn't stop at erection - dancers grind on the customers already erect dick. That's not a BIG step away from selling customers latex undies.

Also, while from the dancers POV stripping and LDs are an illusion and a fantasy, for us on the receiving end, the distinction is not so clear. It feels very sexual - that's the reason we go. We would not go to SCs at all if it was ALL just pretend. SCs are not nice, normal, proper, moral places. They are a compromise on morals (or normal sexual behavior if you like) for the sake of gratification and money. The proof of that is that girls don't do IRL what dancers do for money in clubs.

On the LL underwear - they may make the grinding experience more pleasant but how many customers want to end up with their balls immersed in a container of their own cum? I don't see how that will appeal to anyone except the guys who already do it, either in their pants or using the condom trick.

colleen
06-03-2011, 01:06 AM
Hey!
I need a female version of this - a warm, cozy place to protect "lil' lopaw" from any rough-grinding inflicted upon her by well-meaning (but overzealous) dancers!


Come to think of it (no pun intended)...never mind.
I'll continue to roll the dice & take my chances with the super-grinders ;).


Or to protect us dancersw form the super-enthusiatic potential LL cusotmers.

lestat1
06-03-2011, 10:07 PM
How would people feel if ths device lessened the enjoyment of a lap dance?

I think it would be more accepted if that were the case.

Hopper
06-03-2011, 10:17 PM
^You mean, because it would make LDs harder to sell and make them less enjoyable for the customers? Winner.

Kylea2
06-04-2011, 12:23 AM
How would people feel if ths device lessened the enjoyment of a lap dance?

I think it would be more accepted if that were the case.

LOL Spot on! [No pun intended]

bellaz
06-08-2011, 10:18 AM
MissMynxx wrote:


I'll be buying a bachelor party pack and reselling them (I think that's the idea ... right? Bella, if not - please let me know so I can just direct the guys to your site and they can buy them retail.).

Yes, the bachelor party pack is great for re-selling! You get 12 individually packaged pairs of LL with lube packs, instructions, and everything. It'll be hilarious if you make every guy at the party wear them. It'll give them something to laugh about all night, and it'll be a bachelor party they never forget.

So glad to hear the guys responded positively. That's been my experience as well. I'll keep an eye out for your order and include a couple of extra pairs for you to try out in other situations. Let us all know how the party goes!

Bella

bucket
06-08-2011, 02:36 PM
Different strokes for different folks. I think it's a great idea!
Good luck bellaz.

elix
06-08-2011, 02:58 PM
I'm having a hard time understanding why dancers are finding this to be such a terrible thing. It's much better than having the guy literally jizz in his pants directly, and has no real impact on you as a dancer whatsoever...

I'm unsure as to whether I would go for something like this (as a customer) but who knows. Might give it a try.

bucket
06-08-2011, 03:06 PM
I'm having a hard time understanding why dancers are finding this to be such a terrible thing. It's much better than having the guy literally jizz in his pants directly, and has no real impact on you as a dancer whatsoever...

I'm unsure as to whether I would go for something like this (as a customer) but who knows. Might give it a try.

I think a lot of dancers might be jealous they didn't think of it first. I might give it a go. Who knows.

Thanks for lookin out bella!

bellaz
06-18-2011, 03:55 PM
Hey Everyone,

Just thought I'd give you an update!

We had a really interesting meeting yesterday with the owner of one of the big strip clubs in Las Vegas. He loved the product, but he said there's no way the clubs could sell it in Vegas. He said there's just no way it'd be considered legal here. He said there are a lot of states it'd be no problem for clubs to sell them, but said in Vegas no way!

That's right... Liquid Lapdance is too hot for Vegas!

Here in LV guys are gonna have to go to their nearest adult store to get their Lap Dance Pants :)

Luckily, here in Vegas the nearest adult store is usually very near.

Everybody at the club who saw the product thought it was a great idea. All the guys wanted to try it. Gave away some sample pairs to some very happy customers.

Anyway, that's the latest. Hope everyone killed it last night. Was a nice and busy Friday here.

Bella

Kylea2
06-18-2011, 09:56 PM
Hey Everyone,

Just thought I'd give you an update!

We had a really interesting meeting yesterday with the owner of one of the big strip clubs in Las Vegas. He loved the product, but he said there's no way the clubs could sell it in Vegas. He said there's just no way it'd be considered legal here. He said there are a lot of states it'd be no problem for clubs to sell them, but said in Vegas no way!

That's right... Liquid Lapdance is too hot for Vegas!

Here in LV guys are gonna have to go to their nearest adult store to get their Lap Dance Pants :)

Luckily, here in Vegas the nearest adult store is usually very near.

Everybody at the club who saw the product thought it was a great idea. All the guys wanted to try it. Gave away some sample pairs to some very happy customers.

Anyway, that's the latest. Hope everyone killed it last night. Was a nice and busy Friday here.

Bella


Bella, the problem with them gets into the issue of "simulated sex". Many states clubs can't sell "simulated sex", & this is too far into the red. However, you could sell them in the local stores & probably on a commission basis through cab drivers. For adult stores this would probably be the equivalent of selling a fleshlight...

JayATee
06-18-2011, 10:30 PM
I'm having a hard time understanding why dancers are finding this to be such a terrible thing. It's much better than having the guy literally jizz in his pants directly, and has no real impact on you as a dancer whatsoever...

I'm unsure as to whether I would go for something like this (as a customer) but who knows. Might give it a try.

Bc we are dancers. We are paid to ENTERTAIN. Not get you off.

Hopper
06-19-2011, 03:51 AM
That's right... Liquid Lapdance is too hot for Vegas!

I'm not sure "hot" is the right word. I've been ground on a number of times and never had a problem with chafing. What kind of LD is it where the dancer is grinding hard enough and/or long enough on a customer's dick to make it sore? I can see it's a good thing to contain the results of customers who get too excited or deliberately try to get off but I don't see the appeal for most customers of having cum all around both their dick and their sack inside these latex pants.

Kylea2
06-19-2011, 04:27 AM
Bc we are dancers. We are paid to ENTERTAIN. Not get you off.

I 100% agree with this. However, I feel like personally I wouldn't care if a guy wore these at the club... probably because I know I'm not a grinder. For that matter, even in a lapdance I'm probably in the customer's lap less than 18% of the time. I know how I am, I tell guys they can't be touching themselves during my dances, & get impatient if they say they need to adjust. I believe its because of the lack of actual contact in my dances that I don't take as much issue with the idea of these. I see more of a humor to it than anything else, sort of like "if he want to sit around in some weird oily underwear all night, hoping some girl grinds on him enough to get off... that's his issue - won't be me though!"


I don't see the appeal for most customers of having cum all around both their dick and their sack inside these latex pants.

If I were a guy, that's exactly how I'd feel. Then again, I'm the type who likes to be clean before & after "bedroom activities"... I can't imagine sitting around in it - eww!

Citychick
06-19-2011, 05:17 AM
This is hilarious !;D

Krill_
06-19-2011, 09:17 AM
Whether it feels good or not this is something I would personally never use. The idea of having a goo filled bag and seminal fluid around my junk all night is GROSS. I already avoid SC bathrooms like the plague, but if I went into one and saw dudes discarding these things in there I would leave immediately...biohazard alert.

sparky72
06-19-2011, 12:40 PM
Well in theory it may sound good just in case I don't see many guys buying it. I would imagine the guys who would use it already use condoms or something else

bellaz
06-19-2011, 04:05 PM
Kylea makes a good point. There are some girls who hardly grind and really are only teasing. That can be very hot and I know some guys LOVE it.

Most of the girls I've seen here in Vegas (and the other cities I've danced) give dances that are much more like simulated sex.

People have mentioned some guys try wearing a condom during dances. I can't imagine the "condom trick" actually works. How does the condom stay on? Guys are typically soft before the dance and get hard during the dance. How could a condom possibly stay on as the guy goes from soft to hard?

One of the key design elements of Liquid Lapdance is that it fully engulfs the male anatomy. That's so you can go from soft to hard without having to worry about LL falling off. Once you're inside LL you're inside... soft, hard, and everything in between.

There's also a lot more room in LL to accommodate the back-and-forth grinding action of a full-contact lap dance.

Even if a person could get a condom to stay on during a dance, I don't see how the sensations could compare. Along those lines, we've got a new style of Lap Dance Pants coming out soon called "Rhino Pants". They're just like Liquid Lapdance, but the latex pouch has a special texture for increased sensation.

Bella

Kylea2
06-19-2011, 04:23 PM
"Rhino pants"?

Oh my! I'm not sure whether to giggle or be afraid...

Cheo_D
06-19-2011, 07:16 PM
Wow.
One of the reasons I'm not rich, my brother tells me, is that I overestimate the consumer. Therefore I dismiss ideas on the basis of silliness that in reality are million-sellers.

This concept completely stuns me, or else I just am not getting it. I too think I'd feel damn uncomfortable with my "equipment" all lubed up in a pocket the first half of the evening, and then all jizzed up in a pocket at the end of the night.

Kind of a Rube Goldberg approach, ISTM. Also kind of cheap: if I wanted to pop a nut I could just find a lady in that specific line of work and let her earn an honest buck...

lilykane
06-19-2011, 10:35 PM
Jesus, and I thought my opinion of some custies couldn't get much lower.

bellaz
06-19-2011, 11:44 PM
if I wanted to pop a nut I could just find a lady in that specific line of work and let her earn an honest buck...

Sounds like we need to make a special LL pack with anti-fungal lube for this guy.

Hopper
06-20-2011, 02:58 AM
People have mentioned some guys try wearing a condom during dances. I can't imagine the "condom trick" actually works. How does the condom stay on? Guys are typically soft before the dance and get hard during the dance. How could a condom possibly stay on as the guy goes from soft to hard?

One of the key design elements of Liquid Lapdance is that it fully engulfs the male anatomy. That's so you can go from soft to hard without having to worry about LL falling off. Once you're inside LL you're inside... soft, hard, and everything in between.

You could have pants which hold the base of a condom only in place instead of the pouch which allows cum to spill all around and "engulf" the male anatomy. If the customer is only worried about containing a spill and not getting a lubricated grinding sensation, that is. I don't get the grinding thing - I go to full contact SCs yet I've never been ground on for the whole duration of a LD. The relatively few times I've had grinding it was fairly light and intermittent, not hard and constant. I don't think I'd want a dancer grinding right into the crotch of my trousers for any great length of time. That could get messy in a different way. To get this sensation from LL through the crotch of one's trousers, there would have to be some pretty nasty grinding going on, wouldn't there?

Twinkle Toes
06-23-2011, 07:55 PM
I would love to have one of my big spending regulars have these just to try it!

Angelo
07-07-2011, 12:44 PM
I want to see this product on the TV show the Shark Tank!!!

goddesskali
07-07-2011, 05:31 PM
Dancers have you ever ran into a customer using one of these?

Read this on another discussion board, thought I would post it here to see everyones thoughts on this. lol!

www.liquidlapdance.com

I had customer wear a vibrating cock ring during a LD. I thought at first it was his phone. When I realized it wasnt, I stopped the dance and said we would have to go to the champagne room if he wanted me to grind on him while wearing it (i never grinded much for a 20 buck dance). He yelled at me and said he was telling the manager. ::)

maybe if he was wearing this he would have gotten better treatment!

bellaz
07-21-2011, 09:11 PM
maybe if he was wearing this he would have gotten better treatment!

Vibrating cock ring is impressive.

Anyone ever heard of guys wearing butt plugs during lap dances? I was telling a customer about Liquid Lapdance and he confided in me that he likes to wear his jr. butt plug during dances.

I laughed for about an hour.

Davey17
07-22-2011, 04:28 AM
Dancers have you ever ran into a customer using one of these?

Read this on another discussion board, thought I would post it here to see everyones thoughts on this. lol!

www.liquidlapdance.com (http://www.liquidlapdance.com)


Certainly Doesn't sound too ENJOYABLE to me ! Imagine sitting in a chair with a whole pile of LUBE in your crotch ?? ...Hmmmm , just cant see the " good " part of it .... and Im a Bloke ..lol lol !::):O

bellaz
07-22-2011, 05:29 PM
just cant see the " good " part of it

Davey Liquid Lapdance is totally comfortable. You'll forget you have it on. It's not like having a pile of lube on your crotch. The lube is just enough to make the latex nice and slippery.

Guys who prefer to masturbate with lube will definitely prefer lap dances with Liquid Lapdance.

JoJoX
07-26-2011, 10:31 AM
lmao!!! omg what?!?! i cannot stop laughing this is effin HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JoJoX
07-26-2011, 10:50 AM
Am I the only person who still believes a lap dance shouldn't include someone jizzing in their pants? I mean I understand SOME grinding, but come the fuck on. Won't this also cut down on per customer spending? Why else would they continue to spend once they've gotten what they wanted? Dancing is about the illusion of sex- it's FANTASY. Once you cross that boundary, then it's a slippery slope from there on out.

If I hadn't already retired, I would if these came to my club. This completely changes the purposes of buying a dance. To me, it is no longer a dance, but intentionally masturbating men to completion- and I'm not ok with that, especially in our market up here.

i wish i can hit the thank you button over and over again.

JoJoX
07-26-2011, 10:50 AM
mediocrity is right. this will lessen our value as dancers!!

my boyfriend is the biggest pervert on the planet and HE is even oppose to it. if this becomes a huge seller among clubs, us girls will be doomed. they will treat us even more like cheap whores. who will buy VIP if a guy jizzes after one dance??? us girls will become less valuable.

in fact, i would feel disgusted and cheap if a guy jizzed in his pants for 20 bucks then tells me to go away. I would feel like a cheap disgusting whore!

first i thought it was hilarious and now that it sunk in, i am pissed.

bellaz
07-26-2011, 05:02 PM
Hey JoJoX, keep in mind Liquid Lapdance prevents three things:

1) Cum leaking out of guys pants - won't happen with Liquid Lapdance.

2) Guys playing peek-a-boo and sticking their bare penis out the top of their pants so it can touch us - impossible with Liquid Lapdance.

3) Guys asking for blowjobs and handjobs and sex - not gonna happen if he's wearing Liquid Lapdance.

If a guy is wearing Liquid Lapdance he can feel amazing with his dick in his pants. This is a step in the right direction. If lap dances are better, guys will get more of them, and/or pay more for them. We're trying to make lap dances better/safer for all involved.

Most girls that sell Liquid Lapdance sell it to customers as an upsell to VIP not on regular dances.

Bella

Hopper
07-27-2011, 12:03 AM
Davey Liquid Lapdance is totally comfortable. You'll forget you have it on. It's not like having a pile of lube on your crotch. The lube is just enough to make the latex nice and slippery.

Guys who prefer to masturbate with lube will definitely prefer lap dances with Liquid Lapdance.

Yeah your balls will just be really sticky later in the night.

Davey17
07-27-2011, 02:57 AM
mediocrity is right. this will lessen our value as dancers!!

my boyfriend is the biggest pervert on the planet and HE is even oppose to it. if this becomes a huge seller among clubs, us girls will be doomed. they will treat us even more like cheap whores. who will buy VIP if a guy jizzes after one dance??? us girls will become less valuable.

in fact, i would feel disgusted and cheap if a guy jizzed in his pants for 20 bucks then tells me to go away. I would feel like a cheap disgusting whore!

first i thought it was hilarious and now that it sunk in, i am pissed.

Jo Jo .... for what its worth , Im with you on the product .

But seriously , I dont think you will have a problem with the second part of what you say ..... Its not the same , Its not going to make em shoot on a $20 dance , no way .

Theres absolutely no reason to feel " Cheap " ....

mediocrity
07-27-2011, 06:48 PM
Jo Jo .... for what its worth , Im with you on the product .

But seriously , I dont think you will have a problem with the second part of what you say ..... Its not the same , Its not going to make em shoot on a $20 dance , no way .

Theres absolutely no reason to feel " Cheap " ....

Davey, I think this statement on your part has to do with the area of the world you reside in. There are some areas in the USA where a "dance" consists on 3 minutes of continuous grinding, which unfortunately can and does result in completion.

I personally am firmly in the "more dancing, less grinding" camp.

Davey17
07-28-2011, 04:42 AM
Davey, I think this statement on your part has to do with the area of the world you reside in. There are some areas in the USA where a "dance" consists on 3 minutes of continuous grinding, which unfortunately can and does result in completion.

I personally am firmly in the "more dancing, less grinding" camp.

Yeah , Mediocrity possibly correct , however we also have the same ( 3 minutes of Grinding ) .... I am a fan of an awesome grind ..But I dont know about the idea of this Liquid lapdance pants ...

But , as has been pointed out , I have not tried .:O

Hopper
07-28-2011, 05:59 AM
^ I don't need to try sitting with my balls in a container of my own cum to know I wouldn't like it.

lemiwinks31
07-28-2011, 08:08 AM
^ I don't need to try sitting with my balls in a container of my own cum to know I wouldn't like it.


kind of like ball stew

bellaz
07-28-2011, 11:20 AM
hehe it's more like a nice celebratory ice cream sundae (with your cherries on top).

freeze333311
07-29-2011, 12:30 AM
People have mentioned some guys try wearing a condom during dances. I can't imagine the "condom trick" actually works. How does the condom stay on? Guys are typically soft before the dance and get hard during the dance. How could a condom possibly stay on as the guy goes from soft to hard?

That's so you can go from soft to hard without having to worry about LL falling off. Once you're inside LL you're inside... soft, hard, and everything in between.

There's also a lot more room in LL to accommodate the back-and-forth grinding action of a full-contact lap dance.

Even if a person could get a condom to stay on during a dance, I don't see how the sensations could compare.
Bella

It's a great idea- I wish I had the.. ahem... "balls" to patent it myself because I've been making variations of these on my own for years. I started with the condom trick and it does work, to keep it on while waiting and picking the right girl, you have a rubber band hold it on just snug enough. I've also used "female condoms" as well. Convenient because it comes with a small tube of lube. In a pinch I've used saran wrap and lube inside my briefs. Tried latex fetish wear pants such as "rubba-wear" but it was too tight and would not let me slide. I've even used the condom that comes with the vibrating cock ring, and left the vibrator on before the dance, and even announced to to the girl what I was doing and she did not feel it or care(probably because of the subwoofers pounding) but I sure felt it. I would love to try LL some time.

Now to the interesting part- the emotional response to this thread... I've found it the same everywhere online where even the guys say yuck and the girls that post all hate it and think it's plain nuts.. Well I've found that there's 3 types of girl's opinion regarding this, and the ones that tend to write in forums are actually the minority in my travels- less than 10% that want nothing to do with it if they know what you're up to. About 30% are indifferent, like the one I mentioned above that didn't care that I had a vibrating cock ring on and just did her job. About 50% knows what he wants and helps along after enough songs are bought and they have to get back. Then the last 10% are either curious or mildly turned on and asked about it or gave ideas- even knew a few in that last 10% that were masturbating themselves. One that I saw regularly, so I knew her body well enough by her pulse and breathing I knew that she was edging but not coming, or revealing orgasm at least.

freeze333311
07-29-2011, 01:15 AM
You could have pants which hold the base of a condom only in place instead of the pouch which allows cum to spill all around and "engulf" the male anatomy.

I don't get the grinding thing - I go to full contact SCs yet I've never been ground on for the whole duration of a LD. The relatively few times I've had grinding it was fairly light and intermittent, not hard and constant.

p1- I've done this with the rubber band as I mentioned in my long post, and have also used a cheap cock ring that you get at truck stop vending machines (works great actually had the same one for years).

p2- it's all feeling each other out- if the same girl you describe was with me and was not of the 10% "ewww gross" type she would be grinding me more because my hips would respond to hers. If I am allowed to touch I would be holding her hips and ass as sexily as possible and pushing my junk at her and she would be positively responding because of the unspoken agreement. This "unspoken agreement" is acceptable just because we both are doing it without complaint. Of course if I found her to be an "ewww gross" girl, I would have politely ended the session after 1 song and a reasonable tip.

_natasha
07-29-2011, 03:55 AM
p2- it's all feeling each other out- if the same girl you describe was with me and was not of the 10% "ewww gross" type she would be grinding me more because my hips would respond to hers. If I am allowed to touch I would be holding her hips and ass as sexily as possible and pushing my junk at her and she would be positively responding because of the unspoken agreement. This "unspoken agreement" is acceptable just because we both are doing it without complaint. Of course if I found her to be an "ewww gross" girl, I would have politely ended the session after 1 song and a reasonable tip.

I actually feel a little sick reading this. I'd love to see where you got your '10%' figure from (hardly scientific is it?) and in the same vein would like to hazard a guess that A LOT more than 10% would have a problem with your desperate attempts to get off from a lapdance.

'Pushing my junk at her' - I am obviously in your 10% 'ew gross' type but have you no idea how disgusting that sounds?

If you're trying that hard to get off, surely a different type of sex worker is more appropriate to your needs. I hope I never meet a man like you.

freeze333311
07-29-2011, 06:34 AM
I actually feel a little sick reading this. I'd love to see where you got your '10%' figure from (hardly scientific is it?) and in the same vein would like to hazard a guess that A LOT more than 10% would have a problem with your desperate attempts to get off from a lapdance.

'Pushing my junk at her' - I am obviously in your 10% 'ew gross' type but have you no idea how disgusting that sounds?

Double standard... When a dancer grinds (intent or duration does NOT matter) let's just talk about that move.

Is she not pushing her "junk" at the customer?

All I said was I would respond in kind and slowly at first to feel the situation out. Like I said in the other post, it wound be consensual but not necessarily spoken. If I responded in kind (grinding back) and it was not taken well I would cease then obviously it would not be a dance of the liquid variety.

So you really wouldn't "meet a man like me" anyway, even if we did run into each other because I neglected to mention that I always play by the girl's rules and don't push or try and finagle if she's not game. If I were your customer I would just end up with whatever dance you provide and keep it cordial.

Are my numbers biased?? Well sure they are and they are just a gut feeling. I do screen fairly well to avoid any negative feelings for either side.

rickdugan
07-29-2011, 07:18 AM
This is just disgusting. I am amazed that there is even a thread like this at all, nevermind how long it has dragged on for.

Given what I do with dancers, I am the last person to judge almost anyone or anything around here. Having said that, this just feels cheap and depraved and I seriously have to wonder what type of guy would walk around with his junk in a lubed pouch all night. For that matter, I've always wondered about guys who enjoy cumming in their pants period, but I'll leave that for another thread.

I am in a lot of clubs in a lot of places each year and I challenge the assertion by some in this thread that guys cumming in their pants is common. Now we all know that there are some very high contact clubs in certain places and that it is likely more common in those locales, but even in those places I don't think that the goal of any girl should be to make a guy blow his load for the cost of a $20 lapdance. Further, if a dancer starts selling those in the club with the implied promise that she'll make the purchase worth his while, then things are really going to nose dive further for all of the dancers in that club.

JoJoX
07-29-2011, 10:25 AM
on that note, i hate hate hate it when i see girls in the club sneak off to the corner to do hard core grinding rather than dancing. this will work well for them.

lemiwinks31
07-29-2011, 10:33 AM
Double standard... When a dancer grinds (intent or duration does NOT matter) let's just talk about that move.

Is she not pushing her "junk" at the customer?

All I said was I would respond in kind and slowly at first to feel the situation out. Like I said in the other post, it wound be consensual but not necessarily spoken. If I responded in kind (grinding back) and it was not taken well I would cease then obviously it would not be a dance of the liquid variety.

So you really wouldn't "meet a man like me" anyway, even if we did run into each other because I neglected to mention that I always play by the girl's rules and don't push or try and finagle if she's not game. If I were your customer I would just end up with whatever dance you provide and keep it cordial.

Are my numbers biased?? Well sure they are and they are just a gut feeling. I do screen fairly well to avoid any negative feelings for either side.


zero to creepy on just 2 posts.....

bellaz
07-29-2011, 02:36 PM
Thanks for sharing your experiences, freeze.

We tried a lot of the same solutions you came up with when developing Liquid Lapdance. I think you'll be quite pleased with the final design.

One thing that's been interesting... we've noticed the guys who buy LL are usually not the hardcore strip club regulars. They seem to be the more casual guys who occasionally like to hit the club for a big night, not the guys who live there. Just an observation, and it's probably too early to tell...

But, I'd be curious to here more from you, freeze, about what kind of strip club patron you are and how we might present the product in a way that would appeal to guys like you.

Bella

Hopper
07-30-2011, 12:56 AM
Double standard... When a dancer grinds (intent or duration does NOT matter) let's just talk about that move.

Is she not pushing her "junk" at the customer?

Yes but I don't think she expects the customer to push back. She wants to be in control of how much grinding she does and how hard. It's her dance.


All I said was I would respond in kind and slowly at first to feel the situation out. Like I said in the other post, it wound be consensual but not necessarily spoken. If I responded in kind (grinding back) and it was not taken well I would cease then obviously it would not be a dance of the liquid variety. The customer is not supposed to respond in kind in a lapdance. The customer is not the one performing.




I am in a lot of clubs in a lot of places each year and I challenge the assertion by some in this thread that guys cumming in their pants is common. Now we all know that there are some very high contact clubs in certain places and that it is likely more common in those locales, but even in those places I don't think that the goal of any girl should be to make a guy blow his load for the cost of a $20 lapdance.

Clubs I go to are maximum contact (i.e. customers touching dancers) and dancers who have "ground" me are a small minority. But then I don't ask them to and nor do I ever spend a lot on any one dancer. I have never been told about customers blowing their load in clubs I go to, though dancers are not likely to talk about it if it does happen. Dances in contact clubs cost a lot more than $20.

freeze333311
07-30-2011, 10:18 AM
Thanks for sharing your experiences, freeze.

We tried a lot of the same solutions you came up with when developing Liquid Lapdance. I think you'll be quite pleased with the final design.

One thing that's been interesting... we've noticed the guys who buy LL are usually not the hardcore strip club regulars. They seem to be the more casual guys who occasionally like to hit the club for a big night, not the guys who live there. Just an observation, and it's probably too early to tell...

But, I'd be curious to here more from you, freeze, about what kind of strip club patron you are and how we might present the product in a way that would appeal to guys like you.

Bella

Hi Bella, thanks for introducing the product and adding to this topic. I would fall into the infrequent category you mention. In fact, I haven't done this stuff in years mainly because of the economy. The things I've tried mentioned above, and my personal observations are actually from about 1995 to 2002 where I've might have gone 6x per month. After that I only go to clubs a handful of times per year, and may not even do any "slide" tricks on every visit.

As far as the "creepy" comments- I like a little kink in my sex life there's no doubt about it. That said I don't consider myself nearly as hardcore as what can be found on the internet.

I think the (perceived of course) "creepiness" results from me being open about my intent. It's ironic that even on an exotic dance forum that there are moral finger wagging (tsk tsk) types abound. However it's understandable and almost expected that the people that work at clubs, and the patrons who "live" there- want to maintain integrity about their workplace or hangout.