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freeze333311
07-30-2011, 10:30 AM
The customer is not supposed to respond in kind in a lapdance. The customer is not the one performing.
Says who?? You do realize that you are postulating an opinion?
If there was a law (state or town ordinance- the only kind that matter) it would not be written that only performers or one gender is allowed to grind. That would be ludicrous. A club wouldn't even post such a rule unless the owner was delusional.
Also note that guy responding in kind doing a LL can be a very subtle pelvic movement, even a bouncer watching from 15 feet away may not be able to detect it since girl is covering him up so to speak.
freeze333311
07-31-2011, 12:06 AM
Vibrating cock ring is impressive.
Anyone ever heard of guys wearing butt plugs during lap dances? I was telling a customer about Liquid Lapdance and he confided in me that he likes to wear his jr. butt plug during dances.
I laughed for about an hour.
Ha ha.. I missed this one- I have a story about that too. Remember I said in my last 10% (in my mind/opinion of girls' reception to LL).. there were girls that were either mildly turned on or curious and even giving ideas about ways to enhance or get off... well one of them suggested to me putting a vibrating egg (silver bullet vibe) in my ass before the dance. I loved the idea and quickly thought of a few ways to discreetly wire the remote. She even gave me her schedule to make a date to debut it with her, but I never mustered it up.
The closest I got was the vibrating ring years later.
rickdugan
07-31-2011, 01:53 PM
One thing that's been interesting... we've noticed the guys who buy LL are usually not the hardcore strip club regulars. They seem to be the more casual guys who occasionally like to hit the club for a big night, not the guys who live there.
Really? Idk, but I would have thought that this product would be ideally suited for each club's version of Sweatpants Boner Man. ;)
liberator
07-31-2011, 02:52 PM
Men would not jizz in their pants if they had sex on a regular basis!
freeze333311
07-31-2011, 07:54 PM
Men would not jizz in their pants if they had sex on a regular basis!
That could be extended to say there would be no "erotic" industry whatsoever if men and women were having sex together on a regular basis (we can skip the "define regular" part for now). No porn, no clubs, no mags.. but alas we know that's not true and will never change.
So there is a market for it.. and a market for extras will not change either.
Winged Dinghy
07-31-2011, 08:11 PM
I do not like this fake dancer getting all up on stripperweb and trying to sell a disgusting product to my peers. Please go away, and take your nasty sperm-diaper marketing technique with you.
bellaz
08-01-2011, 01:11 PM
There's nothing disgusting about Liquid Lapdance. It's a nice pair of bikini briefs that are designed to make lap dances feel extra good.
I am really a dancer, and I love it when my customers feel good. If you don't feel the same way that's fine. But not sure why you don't feel it's appropriate to have a conversation about it.
I really appreciate freeze for sharing his stories. Lap dances can be amazing erotic experiences for both customer and dancer. One thing I've learned as a dancer is that everybody wants to feel good. I don't have a problem with that as long as it's legal, safe, and fun. That's what LL tries to be.
BringOnTheMen
08-01-2011, 01:30 PM
There's nothing disgusting about Liquid Lapdance. It's a nice pair of bikini briefs that are designed to make lap dances feel extra good.
I am really a dancer, and I love it when my customers feel good. If you don't feel the same way that's fine. But not sure why you don't feel it's appropriate to have a conversation about it.
I really appreciate freeze for sharing his stories. Lap dances can be amazing erotic experiences for both customer and dancer. One thing I've learned as a dancer is that everybody wants to feel good. I don't have a problem with that as long as it's legal, safe, and fun. That's what LL tries to be.
eh I was kinda buying your dancer story up until now. Lap dances are not erotic for dancers. They are work. At best, they are mildly pleasant in a non erotic way, at worst they border on feeling violated. So I agree with Winged Dinghy, gtfo and take your sperm diaper with you.
BringOnTheMen
08-01-2011, 01:36 PM
It's a great idea- I wish I had the.. ahem... "balls" to patent it myself because I've been making variations of these on my own for years. I started with the condom trick and it does work, to keep it on while waiting and picking the right girl, you have a rubber band hold it on just snug enough. I've also used "female condoms" as well. Convenient because it comes with a small tube of lube. In a pinch I've used saran wrap and lube inside my briefs. Tried latex fetish wear pants such as "rubba-wear" but it was too tight and would not let me slide. I've even used the condom that comes with the vibrating cock ring, and left the vibrator on before the dance, and even announced to to the girl what I was doing and she did not feel it or care(probably because of the subwoofers pounding) but I sure felt it. I would love to try LL some time.
Now to the interesting part- the emotional response to this thread... I've found it the same everywhere online where even the guys say yuck and the girls that post all hate it and think it's plain nuts.. Well I've found that there's 3 types of girl's opinion regarding this, and the ones that tend to write in forums are actually the minority in my travels- less than 10% that want nothing to do with it if they know what you're up to. About 30% are indifferent, like the one I mentioned above that didn't care that I had a vibrating cock ring on and just did her job. About 50% knows what he wants and helps along after enough songs are bought and they have to get back. Then the last 10% are either curious or mildly turned on and asked about it or gave ideas- even knew a few in that last 10% that were masturbating themselves. One that I saw regularly, so I knew her body well enough by her pulse and breathing I knew that she was edging but not coming, or revealing orgasm at least.
Hey Mr. Nasty, why is your ribbon pink?
bellaz
08-02-2011, 09:03 AM
Lap dances are not erotic for dancers. They are work. At best, they are mildly pleasant in a non erotic way, at worst they border on feeling violated.
Not all dancers are the same. Some are repulsed by men and hate their job.
Some (like me) love dancing for attractive guys, seek them out, and get off on connecting with them and dancing for them. I wrote a blog post about this a couple of months ago. http://www.liquidlapdance.com/blogs/news/3298402-dancers-little-secret-we-can-get-extremely-horny-at-work
Personally, I think girls who feel violated or hate their job should quit and go do something else. Life's too short. One reason guys often don't like strip clubs is because the girls they've met have been so fake and bitchy. You're hurting business for the rest of us.
lilykane
08-02-2011, 09:48 AM
You're hurting business for the rest of us.
:O
And making men think it's okay to cum in their pants while getting a LD is good for business?!!
God help me if I'm in the minority, but I firmly believe SCs are for creating a fantasy and turning a guy on--NOT getting him off. If a guy wants that, go to an escort.
I cannot understand how any man would be willing to walk around in, as someone else so perfectly put it, a sperm diaper.
bellaz
08-02-2011, 10:23 AM
I don't want to irritate you guys.
LL is selling great. We'll be posting videos of guys getting lap dances while wearing Liquid Lapdance on the site soon.
If you are of model caliber and you want to make a sexy video of yourself giving a lap dance to your man (wearing LL), get in touch $$.
mediocrity
08-02-2011, 11:02 AM
^^ I used to be a professional model, and I'd LOVE to make a video of me jerking my husband off with my ass cheeks into a wet cum receptacle for all the world to see and likely little pay!
Not.
freeze333311
08-02-2011, 06:10 PM
Hey Mr. Nasty, why is your ribbon pink?
I have no idea if it was default or I just made a mistake. Obviously, I am not trying to hide being a male customer per my conversation. The administrator is welcome to fix the error.
Just who's being nasty though- really? I may not agree with opinions on this topic and openly state my own. But I was never nasty to anyone here.
Hopper
08-03-2011, 12:14 AM
We'll be posting videos of guys getting lap dances while wearing Liquid Lapdance on the site soon.
What's the point of videoing guys using them?
There's nothing disgusting about Liquid Lapdance. It's a nice pair of bikini briefs that are designed to make lap dances feel extra good.
I am really a dancer, and I love it when my customers feel good. If you don't feel the same way that's fine. But not sure why you don't feel it's appropriate to have a conversation about it.
I really appreciate freeze for sharing his stories. Lap dances can be amazing erotic experiences for both customer and dancer. One thing I've learned as a dancer is that everybody wants to feel good. I don't have a problem with that as long as it's legal, safe, and fun. That's what LL tries to be.
You just killed all your credibility, bro.....
Not all dancers are the same. Some are repulsed by men and hate their job.
Some (like me) love dancing for attractive guys, seek them out, and get off on connecting with them and dancing for them. I wrote a blog post about this a couple of months ago. http://www.liquidlapdance.com/blogs/news/3298402-dancers-little-secret-we-can-get-extremely-horny-at-work
Personally, I think girls who feel violated or hate their job should quit and go do something else. Life's too short. One reason guys often don't like strip clubs is because the girls they've met have been so fake and bitchy. You're hurting business for the rest of us.
Ugh, STFU. Annoying.
bellaz
08-03-2011, 02:51 PM
I'm not sure how to prove I'm female on a discussion forum. Not that it would even matter. Although there will be videos of me dancing and talking about the product on the LL website in a few weeks.
Freeze is right about who's being nasty.
I'm out. Thanks to those who were nice here.
Flower420
08-03-2011, 03:12 PM
I'm not sure how to prove I'm female on a discussion forum.
Not that it would even matter. .
It does matter and if you are not sure how to prove you are a female, you are an idiot.
If you are looking for a market for this product, you have two major websites you should be begging to help you, TUSCL and This website, hold up a sign that says "Bella Z from Liquid Lapdance" and you will appease the doubts.
You won't be able to since you are a man and this is a gimmick, any sales person would know their demographic and if you were truly a stripper you would be able to understand the woman here and their apprehension about you and being a man.
You are a man, and we know it, now fuck off or be smart and post a pic.
bellaz
08-03-2011, 05:19 PM
Here's a picture of me holding up a prototype of Liquid Lapdance.
The final product looks better than this... the latex part is light blue and the underwear are gray, but this will give you a better idea of both me and the product.
27354
Hopefully you'll be able to see I'm female by my hands which are obviously female.
I appreciate everybody's feedback here, and I understand some girls and even guys don't like the idea of the product. There are many different types of girls who dance. There are many different types of guys who go to strip clubs. I can't please everybody. If you don't like the idea of giving (or having) a better lap dance, Liquid Lapdance isn't for you.
I don't think this site or TUSCL is a place for us to market. LL is a product for people to have fun with. It's a bit different and crazy. You've gotta have a sense of humor to try it. The hardcore regulars on TUSCL aren't gonna buy it. They're in too deep already... they spend most of their time talking about illegal extras and OTC relationships. They'll need a doctor or a lawyer before they'll need Liquid Lapdance.
And this site seems heavy on girls who hate their job and use the site as therapy. Support groups are cool, I guess. But I don't hate my job. I love it. I love giving dances and connecting with guys. That's why I do it. The fact that several of you can't understand that is sad to me. Maybe it's time for you to quit and do something else with your life?
LL is for regular guys who want to do something crazy for their bachelor party, and guys who love lap dances and would love a way to make them even better.
Lucky for us, "regular guys" is a much bigger market than hardcore regulars. Our marketing efforts are now (and will continue to be) focused on regular guys.
Flower420
08-03-2011, 05:23 PM
You need to hold up a sign with your face and the product which says "bellaz @ stripperweb.com"
or your credibility will never be established
All I see are hands with bracelets.. if you want to be judged by that I say you have man hands..
if you truly are the face of your business this should be no big deal.
until then the consensus is that you are a man and it will stay there, and your company will never have any credibility, that is number #1 in any business, establish credibility
supposedly "being a stripper" you should know this by now
bellaz
08-03-2011, 05:49 PM
If that's not enough for now, I don't care. You're not my customer. I'll do my photo shoots and my video shoots on my terms, and time will tell I'm who I am.
Obviously I could have a friend take the picture you're requesting if I were a guy. That's why I said there's no way to "prove" it. You can always say it's not good enough.
Anyway, time will tell.
_natasha
08-03-2011, 06:07 PM
And this site seems heavy on girls who hate their job and use the site as therapy. Support groups are cool, I guess. But I don't hate my job. I love it. I love giving dances and connecting with guys. That's why I do it. The fact that several of you can't understand that is sad to me. Maybe it's time for you to quit and do something else with your life?
I feel a little like I'm poking a troll here... but I think you have a warped sense of our job description if you enjoy a bloke getting off underneath you. That's 'connecting' a little bit too much for my liking. It also makes me think that maybe it's you that needs to quit if you have to make your money that way. I can make mine without grinding, in fact a lot of the time by simply talking. I think that's a better 'connection', surely?
I love my job - I'm offended that you think I should quit - because I'm not offering a service which is an extra. I'm a stripper, I tease. The art of tease is very different from the art of 'satisfying' a man sexually.
I find it difficult to believe that you are a woman who works ITC. I have no problems, and in fact admire, women who work in other areas of the sex industry - but I do take umbridge when you bring your work into my workplace.
JoJoX
08-03-2011, 06:37 PM
of course freeze is agreeing with this, hes a guy.
freeze333311
08-10-2011, 10:06 PM
of course freeze is agreeing with this, hes a guy.
Ha ha ha... I'm not kissing bellaz's ass, and like most of you, I too am skeptical that BZ is likely a guy doing some marketing. However, I have to give credit where credit is due... the most accurate thing probably ever posted on this entire forum is where bellaz says it's like a therapy board for dancers who hate their job.. or as I might like to modify it: Girls ashamed of the work deep down, and trying to justify it by slamming others- namely the customers.
It's a heinous proposition for you to fathom that a guy "comes" up with clever ways to reverse exploit the system- in the sense that he is getting nearly the same thing, and safer, for 1/4 the cost of a call girl.
jasmine22
08-10-2011, 10:37 PM
This is just disgusting. I am amazed that there is even a thread like this at all, nevermind how long it has dragged on for.
Given what I do with dancers, I am the last person to judge almost anyone or anything around here. Having said that, this just feels cheap and depraved and I seriously have to wonder what type of guy would walk around with his junk in a lubed pouch all night. For that matter, I've always wondered about guys who enjoy cumming in their pants period, but I'll leave that for another thread.
I am in a lot of clubs in a lot of places each year and I challenge the assertion by some in this thread that guys cumming in their pants is common. Now we all know that there are some very high contact clubs in certain places and that it is likely more common in those locales, but even in those places I don't think that the goal of any girl should be to make a guy blow his load for the cost of a $20 lapdance. Further, if a dancer starts selling those in the club with the implied promise that she'll make the purchase worth his while, then things are really going to nose dive further for all of the dancers in that club.
Its more common than you think. Sad but true. Some guys cum really easily and most girls who give regular dances dont know until its too late. I'll tell you something really disgusting. I danced for a guy who came in his pants(lame, wasnt my intention) then he sat at the bar and had a drink. He sat there at the bar in his own cum, drink his drink, then went home. didnt go to the bathroom. I wanted to puke.
rickdugan
08-11-2011, 09:15 AM
Its more common than you think. Sad but true. Some guys cum really easily and most girls who give regular dances dont know until its too late. I'll tell you something really disgusting. I danced for a guy who came in his pants(lame, wasnt my intention) then he sat at the bar and had a drink. He sat there at the bar in his own cum, drink his drink, then went home. didnt go to the bathroom. I wanted to puke.
I am not saying that it does not happen, only challenging the implied theory being touted by a couple of dancer shills in this thread that they are dodging cum stained pants all night. Yes, of course it is going to happen from time to time, particularly in places that sell high contact lap dances. And there are some girls out there who actually specialize in getting guys off during LDs, but far from every dancer has this as a goal or even really does enough to accomplish this.
Further, I don't see how it is in dancers' long-term best interest to encourage this. Unless, of course, a dancer likes the thought of guys coming to her to bust a nut for $20. Beyond that though, if lapdances as a whole started to become nothing more than another way for guys to get off in clubs, how long do you think it would take before more cities and states clamped down on LDs?
Not, of course, as any of this is really realistic anyway. Out of the 3000+ clubs nationwide, I would be surprised if more than a handful would ever agree to allow these to be sold in their clubs. In the dirty clubs there is simply no need for them and in the cleaner clubs the owners are likely to pass for the same reasons that the Vegas club owner did.
At the risk of drawing some flack, I will tell you that I actually have more respect for the girl that gives a happy ending in a private VIP/CR than I do for the one that intentionally tries to get guys off for the price of a LD, and particularly a girl who would actually sells the customer a sperm diaper before the dance. At least the girl in VIP/CR values herself enough to get paid a hefty chunk more than $20 for getting the guy off.
Anyway, just my :twocents:
yoda57us
08-11-2011, 01:12 PM
At the risk of drawing some flack, I will tell you that I actually have more respect for the girl that gives a happy ending in a private VIP/CR than I do for the one that intentionally tries to get guys off for the price of a LD, and particularly a girl who would actually sells the customer a sperm diaper before the dance. At least the girl in VIP/CR values herself enough to get paid a hefty chunk more than $20 for getting the guy off.
LOL, last year a dancer who was getting guys off for LESS than the price of a $20 lap dance was fired from one of my favorite clubs when most of the other dayshift girls went to the housemother and complained about what she was doing. The funny part is that a few of the girls who complained offer full service in VIP. In this particular club extras are pretty much accepted even by the girls who don't do them. What pissed them off was not that she was giving guys hand jobs but that she was doing it on 2 for 1 dance days in out in the "open" rather than getting VIP rates...
safado
08-11-2011, 04:33 PM
According to my unscientific survey only 12.5% of strip club junkies prefer to cum in their pants.
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124710
Mr Hyde
08-12-2011, 08:59 PM
is this thread still alive? lol...
seriously, who is going to wear pants out that are specifically made for this purpose, with their dick and balls stuck in a concoction of lube? I can't imagine this would be comfortable, and even if it was, you're talking about a pretty desperate measure to get off.
mediocrity
08-13-2011, 04:25 AM
I've alerted my district management about this just as a precautionary measure. Needless to say they were less than amused by it, and it won't be allowed for sale in the clubs up here.
rickdugan
08-13-2011, 06:25 AM
I've alerted my district management about this just as a precautionary measure. Needless to say they were less than amused by it, and it won't be allowed for sale in the clubs up here.
LOL med, though I wouldn't worry about it too much. After seeing the publicly available details about the hosting of this website and its servicing agent, it is clear that they are running this on a very thin budget and there are no big corporate backing here. Hell, I'm guessing that the "Webmaster" is Bella herself and that these things are being sewn together in someone's living room.
Net-net, I don't see any big nationwide sales drives coming in the immediate future. ;)
Davey17
08-13-2011, 06:41 AM
I've alerted my district management about this just as a precautionary measure. Needless to say they were less than amused by it, and it won't be allowed for sale in the clubs up here.
Yes ..lol lol .. I wouldn't be too concerned .
Imagine walking to the front desk .... 5 pairs of Liquid pants , and an extra couple of jars of Lube ...lol ..No , I dont think so somehow ..ha ha .
I still personally cant see that the dude is going to get off ..anyhow ...
Agree with Rick ....Think the market is EXTREMELY limited ..want to make a sqillion selling these things ..hmmm a tad difficult to Patent anyhow .
Cant see this product presenting any problem .:O
Davey17
08-13-2011, 06:45 AM
According to my unscientific survey only 12.5% of strip club junkies prefer to cum in their pants.
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124710
Except Safado .......If you put together " Anywhere " and " Pants " you are at 33 % ..so the two could be considered to run concurrently ..lol .}:D