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Kellydancer
08-04-2011, 09:48 PM
Dalkon Shield I believe it was caused and apparently caused many fertility problems including sterility. Because of that I've always been scared to even consider IUDS. I'm not big on anything inside of me in any respect to be honest.

I feel abortion should be a right, but to be honest I am sadden when I hear women use it as birth control. To me if you keep getting pregnant on birth control you need to change your method. If you aren't using birth control and get pregnant this makes you look like an idiot.

ETA: I am not talking about the OP. I am talking about those women who don't use birth control and oops they get pregnant.

cherryblossomsinspring
08-04-2011, 09:51 PM
I feel for you really. I say seek a counselor that you can talk about this with. As you can read there are many women that have had abortions that have experiences similiar to your own. I suggest talking it out as much as you can until some of the pain subsides. I personally have never had an abortion but I still want you to know that my thoughts are with you in this troubling time.

Best of wishes and thank you for sharing your story.

FiendishGyrator
08-04-2011, 11:28 PM
I'm kind of curious if it's just a western-society mindset, but I have to wonder why we assume that the person that the fetus would have been is dead-- why does abortion have to be murder anyway?

Why can't it just be releasing the soul to have a better shot at being born into a family that's going to be able to support it and love it the way it deserves?

We could get into the debate of when a fetus is actually a baby, or when the fetus gains a soul or if the soul comes about at conception-- but there's an indeterminate energy that a physical body contains while alive, and does not contain when it is dead. We have no clue where this energy comes from (though many say God) nor do we know where it goes afterward (though there's a few options) and I choose to believe that reincarnation is pretty plausible, especially in the context of abortion.

Kellydancer
08-05-2011, 12:00 AM
The spirit is an interesting idea. I don't know how I feel in that respect but it curious. The one comment I hate about abortion is how a person might be aborting someone who cures cancer or some one important. The reality though is the fetus would very likely have been a criminal or something like that if it was born to a family who couldn't afford him and didn't want him.

FiendishGyrator
08-05-2011, 12:55 AM
This is exactly how I feel. And you don't even have to believe in reincarnation. If I had had a child instead of an abortion, I would have been doomed to poverty and my child and I would have struggled our entire lives. I would never reach a point where I was financially and emotionally stable to start a family because a family was forced on me. Since I aborted that fetus, I am giving a chance to another one to have a truly happy and prosperous childhood when I am ready. That child would have been denied the chance to grow up in a fully capable family.

Yeah, but even in this case, it's not an either/or scenario. I bet lots of women who've had abortions feel bad when they finally have kids, remember "what might have been."

maybe the soul that was released is fated to come back and be YOUR kid :)

It's all what-if conjecture, and about as solid as saying abortion is murder or abortion sends the babies up to little baby heaven. Although I do crack up a little bit when anti-abortion people are so utterly black and white on the matter because they don't know any better than me-- not for certain :O

kthnx
08-11-2011, 11:31 AM
Um. I couldn't really understand what you just wrote, but let me reiterate: more and more doctors nowadays refer to the notion that having an IUD will affect your later fertility as outdated and incorrect. These doctors refer to the doctors who still subscribe to that notion as "old school," because aren't actually concerned with the risks of an IUD for childless women, but still recommend against getting one out of habit.

REALLY. funny but I run across a LOT of women on infertility & pregnancy related forums complaining about how long it's taking and/or took to get pregnant after they went off the iud. A lot.

Aslinn
08-19-2011, 01:21 AM
I think it compleatly depends on the individual weather its wrong or right to have an abortion. When i was growing up and maybe a little bit now, I believed that if a girl or a boy was woman/man enough to have sex they were adult enough to handle their punishment for not being safe or abstinent. When i got older I was confided in by friends and family about how they felt after abortions or if they should get an abortion. Some of these girls were young with older men who were dead beats and told her to get an abortion, others had careers they wanted to continue or start, and others were just plain children or immature. Some of them i thought without a doubt they should have an abortion while others I suggested adoption or raising the child themselves. However for me I WOULD NEVER GET AN ABORTION even 20 years later my friends regretted it, the girls I danced with would cry at work about it, even one tried to commit suicide because she felt wrong. Even from a young age, I decided I would keep my child regardless if i became pregnant But for me I have never been one of those immature people I think should never have children, and I have always wanted them. At 18 I became pregnant and lost it fairly early, i was already attached however because I had pregnancy symptoms pretty much from day of conception. It literally affected me so badly I lost my job and resented the guy I was with for stressing me out in the early weeks. Now its been over a year and I still think about it, but I do look at it as a second chance because if I had had that child with that man, life would have been hell. He was just a boy and even though he thought he was ready for a kid he couldn't even handle an argument with me without throwing me out of the apartment. I would have never been a dancer, and I would have never met the guy I'm in love with now that's in it with me thew thick and thin and supports me financially and emotionally. Infact I wouldnt even been able to date him if I had met him because his last girlfriend had a child and used the child as leverage to keep them together even going so far as to deny him to see the child he had been raising if they ever broke up. Going thew a miscarriage I could never go threw an abortion willingly because I felt so guilty when I miscarried, like my body had betrayed me. But I can understand and support someone who would because its right for them, its painful and heart breaking but that person is smart and courageous because they knew they were wrong for the job at that moment or the man wasn't the right choice. From a religious stand point Idk what God/ or whoever you believe in thinks its a sin or not but If I was him/ or her I would understand that choice. Although after the first abortion I would advise birthcontrol, just so you dont have to go threw the pain again.